A New World of Universal Logistics

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    The Beeping Mushroom Race

    Sanicle wrote:

    I've read what you've shared here Shiloh, and other posts in other threads also. I admit much of it is hard-going for me as I've not studied Physics nor Higher Math. It all sounds impressive and I guess I have to accept those parts as I'm sure by now some fine minds out there would have discredited all of it ages ago if it didn't 'add up'. This last entry though contains data that I can understand more readily and some of it just doesn't 'sit well' with me. So I've quoted those parts below that summarize those areas, bolding the particulars, and am hoping you will answer the questions I wish to ask re these points under each section.

    I'm reading this at the most basic levels as saying that non-human lifeforms on this planet can't access the intelligence of God/Creator, which is the only type of consciousness that all ETs have, and all the ETs cannot access the instinctual/emotional nature of Goddess Sophia.

    That sets off alarm bells in me as I see the intellect and being cold and separative in being essentially analytical. It does explain however why many ETs come across as being somewhat callous. What I don't understand is how any of them can know LOVE if they don't have emotions, even at the instinctive level. Mind sees polarization everywhere in that there's always at least two sides to every story that can be argued. It's the heart, through combining the warmth of emotion and the wisdom of the intellect, that can integrate both and know true love for others. Going on what's in this information, humans are the only beings in the Universe capable of love in having access to both emotions and intellect.

    Also, many animals have been shown to have the ability to think things through and make decisions, like learning to use tools and in situations where they choose to save another being in danger and work out how to do it on their own, especially those we take on as pets. That suggests they do have basic intellect doesn't it?

    To me this basic premise leaves us with ETs with no heart/love and the belief that animals have no intelligence.

    Dear Sanicle!

    Your concerns are basically unwarranted. You have read too much into the semantics of the words, which basically simply describe the difference between humans on the earth, nonhuman lifeforms on the earth and so called extraterrestrial life in a, I agree, convoluted form to crystallize the underpinning omni-scientific structure.

    The main point in simply words is this:
    ET LOVE is indeed 'cold' as it is rational and based on the Understanding of the Love Frequency in logistical terms. This does NOT mean that ET do not FEEL Love. It means they make a distinction between FEELING this Love Frequency in experiental terms and Understanding this same energy in rationlistic terms.
    This is common nous if you can remember the Star Trek movies, say the Vulcan Spock in the original series and the android Data in the Next Generation.

    So the descriptions above are an attempt to describe this 'alien search for emotions' in quantitative electromagnetic terms. It does not mean that animals have no intelligence or that ETs are 'feelingless'. It means that there is a cosmically ordained difference of incomplete gentic expressions say, which can be reunited in the 'transformation' or metamorphosis or reconfiguration of the cosmic matrix.
    Please ask more questions on this, should you still experience feelings of uneasiness in this.
    I will publish a short essay on this here following and complete this post later.
    Excerp from my free E-Book: "Where is the God of Science? - The Death of the Supernaturality Virus! (presently under edit on the Thuban site).

    ..."On the Beeping Mushroom Race"

    Logan Antico:
    “Yes and that is our chosen task, to inform the general populace regarding it's own potential; using the methodology of science in harmony with the perennial philosophy so grossly misused by all of the worlds’ religions and sects; from paganism to hinduism, nirvanism and buddhism, zoroastrianism, judaism to christian sects and islam and new age antiintellectual fundamentalism and many such in between.”

    Robert Sceptico:
    “We are trying to do it in harmonising the things many consider to be irreconcilable, such as the premises of modern science and the spirituality of the religions. They are one and the same thing, but many cannot see the connections, because of their intellectual agendas and their bias towards one or the other. Maybe the true nature of the alien phenomena can enlighten the uncommitted to perhaps chose the harmonious path in the middle of the two camps of belligerence. The L-factors are not cosmogenetically expressed in the terrestrial nonhuman lifeforms; one just does not find a chimpanzee, drawing maps in the sand to show other chimpanzees where it lives.

    There is communication via the groupmind, such as magnetic orientations in octopuses and the sundance of the bees; but there is no abstraction, no mapping of intelligence in individuated terms of language and logistics. The intelligence of animals is capacitative, enabled to communicate in mutually symbiotic terms and in a harmony found in the collective, rather than the individual. Once individual dominance is established, say in the mating rituals, then the challenging individuality generally submits for the overall benefit of the collective.
    But the L-factors could become expressed, theoretically, if one could render the plants, fungi and animals intelligent in analytic terms, in drawing the potential from their ‘Species GoddoG’.
    And that is where the other aliens come in; the disembodied psychologically created aliens from ‘outer space’ which is of course also the ‘inner space’.

    One creates the aliens in matching the missing L-Factors with the present powerful C-Factors upon earth, in infusing an experienced or known morphology with degrees of starhuman intelligence. As soon as a kingdom-species of plantae or animalia is near extinction on earth; the species’ psyche begins to occupy more and more of ‘outer space’ in the form of its accumulated experience within the ‘Species GoddoG’; whose ‘species body’ is potentially as huge as the universe.
    This becomes the holographically encoded data bank of interference patterns of the EMMR reality. And so by modular duality, the ‘inner space’ of the cocreators, the humanoids, becomes ‘stirred up’ through this new information and they begin to ‘hug the trees’ as their grandparental ancestors and they ‘swim with the whales’ and other cetaceans like dolphins and porpoises with a deeply felt sense of compassion and the sympathy and affinity afforded by true kinship.
    And so the cetacean, through its mental interaction with humanity, develops a highly evolved capacitative intelligence, closely attuned into its groupconsciousness, which is immense in its spacial extent. That is why so many extraterrestrial aliens appear to come from ‘Dolphin Country’, such as the Sirius StarSystem or the ‘Seven Sisters’ of the Pleiades or the ‘Lost Continent of Atlantis’.

    If you study the evolution of the cetaceans, you find landdwelling whales, appearing somewhat like weasels, roaming the Palaeocene period so 60 million years ago. And as cetaceans are relatively big and well known to the human groupmind; they can cause quite a commotion in the psyche of those humans closely attuned to their ‘inner space-outer space’ modular duality.
    Now consider some obscure plant or insect, think of all the prehistoric lifeforms, which the human classification systems have never encountered. And then render them ‘analytic’, WITHOUT the ‘instinctive emotionality’ of the C-Factors.”

    Logan Antico:
    “What do I get? There are no limits as to what the humanoid creativity can muster and construct; giant killer ants and extinct carnosaurs; beeping mushrooms and humanlike androids or multiplying amoebas. Do they exist in massparametric forms; did they ever exist in material morphology on earth or elsewhere? Or will they one day exist as such and can this ever be under the laws of physics as we know them?”

    Robert Sceptico:
    “The answers to that is: ‘Do the science!’ A ‘beeping mushroom’?!
    How does it make its sound; does it have organs to make such noises? What are the means for its locomotion and its energy requirements; its environmental adaptations? Should you be able to construct a scientifically plausible scenario for such a ‘beeping mushroom’, then there are no obvious reasons, as to why it should or could not exist. As a matter of fact, if your analysis is deep enough and selfconsistent in its scientific parameters and set boundary conditions; then you have indeed created that ‘beeping mushroom’ as a viable lifeform, adapted to its particular environment, and you, as the creator of the ‘beeping mushroom’ prototype, like an inventor, may very well consider to reproduce your prototype in the establishment of the ‘Beeping Mushroom Race’. And so you might very well begin to search the ‘outer space’ for a suitable habitat, a temperate planet within a relatively stable solar system within a particular galaxy within...within the universe.”

    Logan Antico:
    “Once you’ve found such a planet, will you name it the ‘Beeping Mushroom Planet’ or will you allow your ‘Beeping Mushrooms’ to discover themselves as your creation; the votive volition to name and to organise themselves? Would you desire to be known to them as their creator?
    Would you allow them to share your genetic identity in all or part of your own cosmogenetic DNA/RNA? They are of course your creation from your own ‘inner space’, say defined by you as a holographic mapping of an intracellular part of one of your mitochondria within your liver. Hence the potential for the dual expression of both C- and L-factors is already present in the genome of the ‘Beeping Mushrooms’. But would you allow the genetic expression of a race of ‘superintelligent’ ‘Beeping Mushrooms’?
    Who has ever heard of such a thing?

    Could they develop a language from their beeping sounds to communicate with each other via their magnetoinductive selfinductances derived from their electromagnetomonopolic electricity, their lifeforce, bathed within the EMMR and also called their ‘spirit’? Could they become ‘smart enough’ to firstly become aware of you and secondly begin to communicate with you, their creator, through their beeping sounds? Being part of yourself, the ‘Beeping Mushroom’ language should be easy for you to learn and to under- stand – or will they overdevelop and challenge your own understanding???

    But you ponder their initial development; they may have to rapid-evolve some new hardware to modify their beeps into a kind of alphabetical structure or lexicon. You may decide to ‘punctuate their equilibrium’ to enhance their evolution – to create some individual genetic mutations, born with abnormal ‘defects’ in the beeping-mechanism; then a better adaptation might allow rapid development of an enhanced language capability. How would you accomplish all that; where is your ‘magic wand’ to weave and mutate the genome? Because your genome withinout is also the ‘source genome’ of the ‘Beeping Mushrooms’ withoutin, your analysis and mental creation would map from your DNA within onto ‘their’ DNA without and your mental creatorhood would ensure your ‘Word or Logos’ to do what you have sent and imagined it to do.

    Or will you set some preconditions into their genomic programming; such as to disallow the activation of the L-Factor until a certain threshold of awareness via the (df/dt) timedifferential of frequency has been reached to satisfy one of your boundary conditions? Mushrooms better stay members of the fungi kingdom, even if they can beep – or can you envisage a hybrid race of funguous plants, perhaps even beginning to grow legs from roots in times to come?”

    Robert Sceptico:
    “Now how do you find out, as to where to place the ‘Beeping Mushroom Race’ - its locale?
    Of course you need a detailed map of the ‘outer space’; it is required to be explored and chartered by enterprising pioneers of space; maybe probes and satellites can help in that task.
    Your imagination is free to travel anyplace, creating on its journey. So what about an even more daring thought?

    Could you not send your entire genetic library from within to the without of some location, carrying precise instructions as to how to reproduce your very own self from within yourself as the without of yourself, using your selfdefining pentagonal algorithm of your cosmogenetic DNA in the process?
    Then that endeavour, if successful, would allow you in time and space, to ponder not just your creations, but your very own evolving selfhood in its linearised journey through eternity. You would see your firstborn creation in the protouniverse selfcolonising in a selfdiscovery of itself. You would see the protouniverse give you grandchildren in the birth of the transformation of your firstborn in its phaseshifting into the multiverses of the brothersisterhood of your firstborn children. You would see your own family name written all over generations after generations of the children of the manyborns and you would be the greatgrandgreat...FatherMother of them all, with your Beloved MotherFather eternally next by your side.”

    Logan Antico:
    “And your excruciating suffering of the loneliness of the linearity would finally come to an end. There you are; a ‘Man’ who has just created the first ‘football’ as your ‘Beloved universe’ - but there is noone to ‘play with’. There is noone at all, to whom you could kick that ‘football’ to, noone who would kick it back to you. And ‘My God’ how the universe as the ‘football’ would love to fly through the omnispacial air.

    ...end of excerpt.

    In generalised terminology then; the ET is seeking to hybridise its magnetopolarisation of the waveform of the mind-intellect with the electropolarisation of the particularised bodyforms of the mind-emotional or mind-instinctual.

    As this instinctual mind is coupled to a space-intrinsic consciousness of all spacetime defined metric coordinates; the Gaian nonhuman lifeforms become the complementary 'missing links' in the merkabahs of all extraterrestrial sentiences.

    This is rendered imperative in the definition of this spacial consciousness as a inertia inependent quantum angular acceleration acting upon the quantisation of spacetime parameters in the form of wormhole equivalents.

    In other words, ALL Gaian nonhuman lifeforms and including mineral, fungi, bacteria, viruses, flora and fauna represent the ET particularised and individualised bodyforms or morphogenetic merkabahs.

    The nonhuman lifeforms so are destined to couple their electropolar capacitances, defined in groupminded waveforms or 'hive souls' to the magnetopolar inductances of the ET waveminds of the extraterrestrial intelligences.

    The presence of the humanoid, carrying a unique individuation, both ET-intelligent and Gaian-instinctual; so serves as the Genetic Bridge between the electropolar cosmic ID and the magnetopolar cosmic ID; both selfinductive in activated genomatic expressions, but suppressed in the mutual inductions because of the cocooning of the gaian environments.

    The ET so became instrumental in inducing itself in the Homo Sapiens Sapiens, once a sufficient evolutionary plateau for the processing of the cosmic consciousness became possible in the overall timeline of the cosmogenesis.

    The so called humanoid so represents an already hybridised cosmic merkabah, having evolved physically and emotionally in the Gaian Instinct of the nonhuman genomatic templates in the electrocapacitative C-factors, as well as having attained magnetoinductive L-factors via the waveforms of the ETs.

    Human associations with the nonhuman Gaian lifeforms so represents the 'humanisation' of the ET in a desired modality of interspecies communication and renders the 'pet' and the 'familiar' as a true partnership between the waveformed ET and the individuated 'Familiar Friend'.

    In more general terms, the mutual and self-induction of the genomatic elements of the ElectroMagnetic Monopolar Radiation or EMMR defines the so called 'Spirit of the Source Energy' interacting and communicating with itself in the holofractal components of the Holographic Omniverse.

    The ET has accumulated great wisdom and technology in the extraterrestrial evolution away from the Gaian Impedence Bubble; albeit remaining 'consciousness coupled' to the Cocoon of the 'Cosmic Creation Mother' via the 'missing' C-factors of the ET genomatic templates.

    This ET technology is consciousness based and defined in the wormhole physics of the cosmogenesis.

    So the non-humans on this planet are 'destined' to couple with the ETs as they are the "individualised bodyforms or morphogenetic merkabahs" of the ETs. How is this 'coupling' supposed to occur, especially when it's claimed the ARE the bodyforms? Will they be 'forced' to accept the mind of the ETs into their beings, like parasites attach themselves to a host?

    Sanicle asked:

    What happens to their own already developed natures? And all who have had pets know that each animal in particular has its own developed personality already. What happens to that?

    Here you overgeneralise what i mean by hybridisation sweetheart. The excerpt above might have clarified this perception of yours. Again, I invoke the 'movies' the creative endeavours of the human mind in the 'monster movies' and the sci-fi genres. Where do those 'forms and shapes' derive from, if not from the lifeforms all around you. Have you ever seen the grotesque shapes of deep sea lifeforms of the thermophilic worms and the anglefish , the kraken etc etc.? The oh so evil reptilians illustrations, say on pictures of Allosaurus of the Cretaceous era and Tyrannosaurus Rex of the Jurassic, all developments of the archosaurs genetic ancestor of the pre-Mesozoic?

    I shall address Carol's ideas and suppostions in her reply later on; but this multidimensional reality is far more interwoven than a simple divisionary line between the seen and the unseen; the good and the evil - the 5-sensory stimulus and the multi-sense stimuli for the human mind with a biochemical brain, which functions basically just like an antenna does as part of the hardeware apparatus to data process the encountered environments.

    This hybridisation occurs fundamentally on the genetic level. It can be described as an 'Electromagnetic walk-In' in a blending of soul-energies. These soul energies belonging together and being parts of each other in say soul families however.
    So the 'invasions' are actually self-invasions - scarey is it not?

    As Gaia as a soul, existed in physicality at this nexus coordinate; the extraterrestrial universe became conscious and aware of their own Mother and could begin to focus their attention and homecoming plans on their 'Womb of the Physicality' of their origins.

    So the ET visitations begun about 2.2 billion years ago and when the terestrial atmosphere became oxygen enriched to allow hitherto aquatic primitive lifeforms to extend thier habitats into airborne and terrestrial environments.

    On a soul level, the encompassing Gaian planetary mother soul then greatly enhanced its own experiences and partitioned interactions in environmental coevolutions of increasingly complex biological and biochemical lifeforms.

    This coevolution was 'watched' by the extraterrestrial lifeforms not evolved from the Gaian soul complex and for the purpose to eventually synergize their own ET cosmo evolotions with that of their Cosmic Home of the Cosmogenesis of the Universe.

    This 'watching' and 'waiting' by the ETs would end, once the 'Earthlings' would have evolved physically and mentally to a stage of self remembrance regarding their own familiar relationship and partnership with the original CreatorCreation Monad of the FatherMother defined before the Universe was born into physical materiality.

    All 'Human Recallers' would be required to claim their cosmic inheritances as Sons and Daughters of their Father Creator and their Mother Gaia.

    In doing so, their old humanity would graduate to a Starhuman Remembrance and all such acolytes would become enabled to process their own Shadows in the Sons transmutating into SonDaughters and all daughters metamorphosing into DaughterSons - so RECREATING the original FatherMother of the Monadic Duality in a Mirrored FatherMother Motherfather Dyadic Monad or Harmonized Unity, Oneness or Wholesomeness.

    Sanicle asked:

    So all of our Higher Selves etc are in fact ETs at higher levels we are connected to mentally through genetic manipulation in the past and/or haven't got our own connection to the Father God? And we are 'required' to claim our inheritance. What happens to any who don't? We then only become acolytes.....a follower or attendant according to the dictionary. Which would have to mean following and attending the ETs I would guess. That sucks. Then we have to process our own Shadows. What does that mean?

    YES YES YES you are your own ancestor and you are your own offspring sanicle. You are a cosmic time traveller NOW. The so called dragon energy is the oldest root memeory of creation itself; why so many reject this energy. It is too powerful and remembering your origins would 'boggle' your, lets call it domesticated minds. Your being here in incarnation however renders you the form, the body gestalt for this remembrance. You are mentally and mindwise the offspring of the Elders of creation. This is the heirloom of collective humanity as a race from the star - cosmic royalty as Alex Collier calls it - he is right in this (he is off on other things). But in your bodyform, you are the ancestor of ancestors, the 'missing link' FOR ALL possible lifeforms in the universe. It was your ET mind which genetically manipulated or better said electromagnetically INDUCED the codes which brought the flora and fauna of Gaia ALIVE. The spark of this is from the creator, but the mechanics were done and implemented by the human ET in disembodied form as shards of this creator, which did not physicalise below the 4th dimension.

    No matter what the skeptics say, about these and those ET lifeforms; they are basically astral densities and cannot maintain structure in a 3D gaian environment (this is the cocoon; incidents like Roswell and Rendlesham are very rare and require particular energy conditions to densify astral 4d energy formations into 3D physicality and most ET stuff on the web is NABS. Don't buy the NABS (NewAge BullShit), if you wish to 'soothe your inner knowing and wisdom (sophia)'. You know in your superconsciousness (Christ Consciousness say); that what you read here is true on a very deep level. This superconsciousness is just 2% in the normal human make up of the overall consciousness, the subconscious being so 12% in a 1-7-49 ratio distribution.

    This silly notion of 'following' and 'gurus' and 'evil manipulators'. The humans are the 'evil manipulators' and they themselves have become 'mind-manipulated' by their own creations, might they call them guardian angles or demons or devils or 'ascended masters'. Yes sanicle there are no gods or devils, they are all humanities astral children and offspring. The only 'God' is ABBA, the All That Is or such a label and descriptive of the undivided eternity emerging in selfdefinition of the 'Word/Logos' from the contrastate of the 'Void'. This is detailed elsewhere, say in the 'Secret of Humanity' essay i shall put on this forum for you.
    You are Barbelo, the Goddess of Creation you are the Universe in holofractal definition; but cant remember your own origins, still running away from your creator in allegory to the expanding universe. You are a supersexual Shehe the female aspect of eternity emerging from the void itself.
    But I am getting a little 'carried away' here by your sexappeal as an ambassadora of Gaia and Barbelo Herself big SHE. Oh well, I better end with this!

    shiloh, one of your many Beloveds - One day you will understand this more clearly


    Sanicle said:
    So with respect, these are the questions I have in relation to these teachings. Would you care to answer my concerns Shiloh please? Oh and thanks for providing all this info. It is a very interesting perception to explore.

    [*]Post n°13 lack Hole Responsible For Recent Earth Changes?

    empty-.23677. shiloh Today at 11:50 am

    Carol wrote:

    Now let's discuss what is really going on here.

    "So the non-humans on this planet are 'destined' to couple with the ETs as they are the "individualized body forms or morphogenetic merkabahs" of the ETs. How is this 'coupling' supposed to occur, especially when it's claimed the ARE the bodyforms? Will they be 'forced' to accept the mind of the ETs into their beings, like parasites attach themselves to a host?"

    This does happen and I've witnessed it with some humans who are possessed by negative alien ETs. Generally the goal of these negative entities is to weaken the will of the host so they can enter and take over feeding off of negative energy. How is this done? Those people who use drugs and alcohol are most vulnerable. Those people who are engaged in spiritual practice (practice prayer and/or meditation) are much stronger and able to resist these types of negative ET influences.

    Whenever someone mentions the word dragon with respect to what is written here by Shiloh is an automatic red flag for me because the dragons feast off of human energy and look upon humans as cattle. They also operate from "hive" mind and are genetically insectoid based. They have a hierarchy structure which has been superimposed upon the human race. This meaning that these entities have had a significant negative influence on humankind (via time travel into humanity's past) for a very long time because humankind without this type of negative influence is a peaceful race. The warrior element was genetically added to the human mix by the dragon element.

    The whole hybridization factor is very complicated. I was in contact with one woman (contactee/abductee) who had at least 6 dragon/human hybrid children. She also wrote a book about her experience (it's in my library) and I spent a great deal of time communicating with her. Her hybrid children were in revolt against the old pure-bred hierarchal group (think of a human teenager and what life is like with that 852846-.23678. - bbl

    BTW, human DNA can create those magnetized wormholes, dragons cannot. They do not have access to the higher spiritual dimensions and are trapped by their frequency which is why they like to feed off of human energy and also, I suspect, why they are interested in hybridization in an unconscious attempt to spiritually elevate their own species.

    There are two major hybridization programs that have been going on for years (grays and reptoid). This is also a huge topic but ties in as we are looking at perhaps the reason why they are here to begin with as their origin was really in another Universe and they escaped when there was the rip in time and space that was created when the Philadelphia Experiment first occurred.

    Jenetta, I want to apologize as I missed this thread and started another one on the same topic. Opps

    "What is Really going On? This is what is going on!"

    It is going to get very scarey for old 'mindboggled' and selfdeluded humans, when the Thuban Fleet of Starcruisers arrives to contact their own family!

    For Carol and her likeminded friends and acquaintances. Is this fantasy, science fiction or could this be a blueprint for a dream of Abba?
    Who laughs last , many times laughs the best! Beware of the evil dragons!


    Finis Hominis Incere Hominidae Draconis Astrum!
    "Humanity has ended, enter the Starhumanity of Dragons!"

    As of 24Jun2008, an old Humanity has entered its Cocoon to begin its Metamorphosis into a new Starhuman Papillon or Butterfly-DOG and as GOD's (Primal Source) 'Best Friend'.

    drago3. fantasie1. drago4.
    dragonrider2. drago1. drago2.

    Old 'Caterpillar' Humanity is required to grow Wings, to transform its nature from a 'verocious' annihilator of its environments in search for 'food' into a subtle selfidentification as a fertilising and pollinating 'Butterfly' of a New Starhumanity.

    The Thuban-Site {www.cosmosdawn.com} and related sites around the globe address this human transformation in a profound manner, which unifies and harmonises the divers thought systems and philosophies hitherto invented and discovered by a collective humanity, searching for its purpose of being incarnate upon Gaia during these times of transition.

    The 'wingmaker' phenomenon requires elucidation in its scientific and metaphysical origins and purposes. The answers are found in a precursive metaphysics for a physics of the quantum and how the smallest realms of the subatomic nature of superstrings and supermembranes relate as holofractals to the macroworlds from bacteria to clusters of galaxies and the universe as encompassing and unified entity and as the 'Goddess' Aphrodite or the 'Body of the Cosmic Mother' as the archetypical Eve as ambassadora for Barbelo as the cosmic womb.

    dracow. fantasie0.

    dragon1. dragon3. dragon2. draconis_memorandum1.
    phoenix11. gb250. caduceusl.
    In 23,616 BC, an ET-message: "I Love You!" was sent by Hunab Ku, from the center of the Milky Way Galaxy to the heart of Gaia, arriving 21Dec2012 after travelling for for exactly 9,360,000 days.

    From that cosmic nexus date onwards, a 'New Earth' was indeed born in the higher dimensional realms of the universal energy continuum.
    This you might term as a 'metaphysical reality' and encompassing all so called physicality as a denser form of metaphysicality or 'spirituality'.
    This physical 'denser selfstate' of energy is simply now 'catching up' to its new higher dimensional blueprints and definitions, based and built from language codes, symbols and cosmic archetypes and semantics.
    An appropriate utility and application of those linguistic communication codes by the 'comic humans' within the cocoon, then required a length of time to evolve from its praxis of using physical support structures or human endomorphology to a sufficiently structured mental capacity of understanding and comprehension in what is termed the 'application of thought' by the natural planetary mind and also known as the Gaian Consciousness Collective of all spacial and temporal self awareness.

    A major nexus point in the cosmic contact between the ET morphology and lifeforms and the Gaian cocooned inhabitors was 1945 and the end of World War Two and the application of an immature human race of nuclear energy, culminating in mass destructions of life and environments in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan.
    In that time particular, archaeological discoveries provided this immature planetary genus with hitherto unknown and undecipherable cosmic ET data in the excavations of Qumran and Nag Hammadi. This provision of ET intelligence and information then heralded a 70 year period with the political creation of a exemplar nation state in lieu of allowing the quarantined planet of the humanoids to fulfil this selfsame template function represented temporarily by this nation state known as Israel.
    To satisfy a number of criteria determined by millennia old agendas and as provided and implemented by the ETs not in the quarantine zone and following the completion of this 70-year period; the ET agency will be authorised by all participating parties with respect to particular stipulations and agreements to begin the physical transformation of the cosmic incubator known cosmically as the planet Earth.
    Then its metaphysical requirements will have been met to allow a universal evolutionary nexus point to proceed and not just for the Gaian inhabitants, but for all lifeforms and sentiences in the metaphysical universe, inclusive of all its physical aspects and manifestations.

    Council of Thuban, June 7th, 2015

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    How Many Angels Can Dance on the Head of a Pin?


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    - Posted December 12th, 2012

    World and Reality
    This is remarkable way of seeing things like seeing a whole redwood tree at one time. This is an image of a coastal redwood stitched together from 84 photographs. It is that reality is not the world but we can fit reality in it . . .

    I like the notion that the world is not reality but we can express reality in it. I rather think it fits for everything. The confusion begins when we mistake the metaphor for the real thing, the world for the reality, the person for the soul, the wrapping of the eternal for the eternal. Many things come together.

    Do you think there's a limit to how many d's a person can fit in 3d?
    The way I'm seeing things -- the posts on all threads are bristling with energy and happy-light! Like the main light bulb of the universe just turned on!!
    If this is the beginning, it will be a wondrous time of Renaissance and discovery through which love and beauty move freely.
    A person can't get too much of that.

    What an interesting question Jorgelito. This relates to a most famous discussion exemplified and answered by Thuban some years ago! I am editing this reply to you, but you can see here the blending of the physics with the metaphysics with no wishy washy fantasies of 'Nabs spirituality' required.

    "How many angels can dance on the top of a needle?"

    Well, there is an answer.
    Consider a 'knitting needle' of linear dimension of about 1/4 of a mm.
    Using electronmicroscopy and the diffraction patterns of a Krypton laser, one laboratory might analyse a specific sample of such needles to arrive at a mean statistical value for the surface of the needle-tip as say 1/12th of a mm² with an error of 2%.

    In omnispace are no errorbars, as there are no measurements required to determine continuuous distribution of measurable quantities.
    In omnispace(10-11-12D your first world), all such quantities are quantised in discreet distributions, i.e. there are no partial angels or devils dancing on the needle tips.

    The surface area of the needle tip in question is an integral numbercount for a minimum vacuum/vortex-area, defined in quantumcircles (your electron as a circle say) of radius source wavelength λ/2π, inclusive the curvatures of non-Euclidean spaces.

    Dividing the surface area of maximum precision measurement by that area quantum (magnified Planck-Area used in Susskind/Bekenstein holography as entropy counter), must so give the 'angel number' as an integral count.

    A first approximation is 5 million billion or 5 quadrillion.
    A second approximation is 5.235987756 quadrillion or 5.236x1015.
    And a third approximation is 5,235,987,756,123,456.789876..which truncates to 5,235,987,756,123,457 Angels PRECISELY to dance on a maximised/minimised standardised (by the laboratory) needletip.

    Every 'angel' thus can also be represented or modelled on a wormhole singularity.

    Dear George and Scerir!

    Thank you Scerir for your pertinent reference.'Quantum Gravity Treatment for the Angel Density Problem': Anders Sandberg, November 20th, 2000 (New York Times, Nov.11,1997).


    angel2. angel3. angel4. angel5. angel6.

    George please note that the Bekenstein Information Bound N<kD(M+Nm)~4.2x1014 for Diameter D=2R and entropy (Stefan-Boltzmann) constant k=1.4x1023 for a mass system (m; M)=(Angelmass; Black Hole mass) with 1/kD~3.88x10-34 kg; R=1 Angstroem and mass M=c2.R/2G<Nm
    approximates my stated value (N=5.2x1015) for a 'human' angelmass m=80kg in the Schwarzschild Bound.

    The referenced analysis shows, that the decreasing Black Hole Bound intersects the low mass and hyperbolically increasing Bekenstein Information Bound at mmax=1/{4GkM/c2 + kD}, slightly below mcritical.

    George, I may also point out that (my) prespacetime/prePlanck-epoch boundary condition for dimensionless Nulltime calculates at the same order of magnitude, as the value obtained by the referenced analysis.

    SourceWavelength lNg-VanDam/Rmax=10-22/1.6x1026=6.3x10-49=HubbleFrequencyxTimeInstanton.

    The Number of 'Angels' can thus be represented by the 'Frequency' or 'Angel-Ticks' in 1/NullTime, (Nmax~8.677x1049 ~ 1/10-50.

    Hence we find convergence between the Bekenstein quantum gravity/information model and the magnified Planck-Scale approach.


    i.p.emlove. Love from the DragonHeart! i.p.emvamp. i.p.emrose.
    As a mathematical physicist, I also study ancient scrolls and the signature can be evaluated on a number of levels; from childishly naive to profoundly esoteric---Tony Whynot, Unicorn of SophiaGnosis !
    ARMAGEDDON=DRAGONMADE=ANDROMEDAG=MARRY7=GODNAMEDRA=82 =666+1=1+2+3+...34+35+36+1=1+2.2+3.3+5.5+7.7+11.11+13.13+17.17

    Jorgelito - Posted Dec 12th 2012

    At last I know. 5,235,987,756,123,457 angels will fit into the 3d space of the tip of a needle. I was not prepared for such an analytical answer! It's hard to stop laughing! I do like all angels wherever I can find them.


    Post last edited Dec 12th 2012

    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Dec 12th 2012

    See the blendings then? Yes you can laugh, but this is meant as a reply to the skeptics and ridiculers of all things 'angelic'.
    You know how 'analytical and skeptical' the Thubans are, but not for being skeptical deniers for denials sake, but to bring the 'true spirituality', of which you are well familiar with, to the forefront. This is to try to separate the nonsense from the omni-scientifically or metaphysically possible and 'evolvable'.
    I wrote a 'tale of a beeping mushroom race' evolving and being created by you, some time ago; if you like I dig it up and repost it for you.
    Like Augustine tried to 'prove' the existence of God, so do the Thubans.


    Post last edited Dec 12th 2012

    shiloh hidden-09. Ra Akbar de Queen Bayan 43 Magdalene One 34


    I Am the Darkness of the Purple Dawn and the Light of the Moon Turquoise!


    Bluey Dracs
    The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!
    I Am One in Many and Many in One!

    Decoder Michael = 54+51=105=15=6=123=ABC=ABBA=BAAB=33=E3=8=3E=ME=WE
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  3. admin

    admin Well-Known Member Staff Member


    Algo1. Algo2. Algo3. Algo4. Algo5. Algo6. Algo7. Algo8. Algo9. Algo10. Algo11. Algo12. Algo13. Algo14. Algo15.
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  4. Allisiam

    Allisiam Well-Known Member

    [19/06/2015 12:26:46 PM] Sirius 17: i wanted all to know cosmic love
    [19/06/2015 12:27:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They cant until they have images to see of themselves. IOW new cosmic templates are necessary
    [19/06/2015 12:28:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Ergo the testimony keepers must create the new blueprints before any NW can be born
    [19/06/2015 12:28:15 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Everyone CAN be that see? Everyone is both christ and antichrist by cosmic definition. Everyone is the 2 witnesses in rev
    Gospel of Thomas the Twin Didymos - Lambdin Translation

    (83) Jesus said, "The images are manifest to man, but the light in them remains concealed in the image of the light of the father. He will become manifest, but his image will remain concealed by his light."
    (84) Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!"

    [19/06/2015 12:28:44 PM] Sirius 17: yes true
    [19/06/2015 12:29:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But who can 'play' the story to the universe's preferences?
    [19/06/2015 12:29:15 PM] Sirius 17: only those who are truly tuned in
    [19/06/2015 12:29:15 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Why there are so many gurus, prophets, second comings etc. Well the narrow path. The Lion!
    [19/06/2015 12:29:43 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [19/06/2015 12:29:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Harmony between the metaphysics and the physics
    [19/06/2015 12:29:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Science and religion; nabsers don't have it and scientists and sceptics dont have it and believers dont have it
    [19/06/2015 12:30:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You must MAKE PEACE in your own head
    [19/06/2015 12:30:53 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
    [19/06/2015 12:30:54 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Fear no evil lol; fuc11 and mother all devils and father all angels as well
    [19/06/2015 12:31:29 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: In your head and heart and not only your words. Be the cosmic harlot in deed and thoughts and action
    [19/06/2015 12:32:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is what allows you to 'play' the game of the universe the way you do and what disqualifies your 'sisters'
    [19/06/2015 12:32:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You have it in heart and mind and without pretense
    [19/06/2015 12:33:18 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You are no human slut or whore you are a human antiprostitute
    [19/06/2015 12:33:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Just as Hosea says in the contrary whoredom remember?
    [19/06/2015 12:33:47 PM] Sirius 17: um no, vaguely
    [19/06/2015 12:34:01 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: wait
    [19/06/2015 12:34:03 PM] Sirius 17: it has been a while since i read Hosea
    [19/06/2015 12:34:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Ezekiel not Hosea sorry

    Ezekiel 16:33-35 - King James Version (KJV)
    33 They give gifts to all whores: but thou givest thy gifts to all thy lovers, and hirest them, that they may come unto thee on every side for thy whoredom.
    34 And the contrary is in thee from other women in thy whoredoms, whereas none followeth thee to commit whoredoms: and in that thou givest a reward, and no reward is given unto thee, therefore thou art contrary.
    35 Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the Lord:

    [19/06/2015 12:35:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Human whores do it for money see?
    [19/06/2015 12:35:22 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [19/06/2015 12:35:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: We do it as a present to the OW. Serpent=Present=Son of Man=Circle of God
    [19/06/2015 12:35:53 PM] Sirius 17: yeah for ABBABAAB
    [19/06/2015 12:36:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This code justifies our cosmic polysexing and amidst many others lol
    [19/06/2015 12:36:28 PM] Sirius 17: what is 49 lol?
    [19/06/2015 12:36:50 PM] Sirius 17: 48=sex=son...ect but 49? I know 50=lion=snake=circle=arachne=paul=circle
    [19/06/2015 12:36:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 47=John and 48=James in the 'Thunder of the Boanerges' and 50-1=48+1=49
    [19/06/2015 12:37:27 PM] Sirius 17: i see
    [19/06/2015 12:38:15 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The +1 is lways applicable to extend the definitions say Abba+1 is like closing the circle in the alpha=A=1
    [19/06/2015 12:38:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So yes EVIL+1=LIVE+1=VEIL+1
    [19/06/2015 12:38:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Sex+1 means new sex. But there are codes 49= of course
    [19/06/2015 12:39:22 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 1+1 is the beginning of the algorithms in 1+1=10=2
    [19/06/2015 12:39:30 PM] Sirius 17: i was reading the ABC in the algorithm papers well and seeing the permutations, trying my best to follow it , but basically got that all B's follow all A's and all C's follow all B's
    [19/06/2015 12:39:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Dont try lol
    [19/06/2015 12:39:53 PM] Sirius 17: well my head was groking somethings
    [19/06/2015 12:39:57 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes it is engaging and this is chapter 4 recall? So the principles are not exposed there. The rest is published on legacy I think
    [19/06/2015 12:40:42 PM] Sirius 17: chapter 4?
    [19/06/2015 12:40:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It was like an appendix
    [19/06/2015 12:40:49 PM] Sirius 17: oh oh i see
    [19/06/2015 12:40:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes part 4 look at the title. I did publish the other 3
    [19/06/2015 12:41:14 PM] Sirius 17: ok yes i see
    [19/06/2015 12:41:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I dont know if this is on xen yet. Well maybe I did not scan this yet. But I remember scanning this old work or parts of it
    [19/06/2015 12:43:30 PM] Sirius 17: well i know you have the constants listed here
    [19/06/2015 12:44:04 PM] Sirius 17: I found it interesting that this one physicist sort of parallels your work; the one in the video, can't remember his name, but the guy who says that reality is much like a video game
    [19/06/2015 12:44:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Max Tegmark
    [19/06/2015 12:44:45 PM] Sirius 17: and that all the universe is mathmatical
    [19/06/2015 12:44:46 PM] Sirius 17: yes
    [19/06/2015 12:44:58 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes I would agree with that part of his takes and models
    [19/06/2015 12:45:11 PM] Sirius 17: but you wrote all this years before his work even came out, so i found it funny
    [19/06/2015 12:45:21 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But he has some weird ideas about time and the multiverse I disagree with
    [19/06/2015 12:45:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: google him
    [19/06/2015 12:45:58 PM] Sirius 17: Born May 5, 1967 (age 48) - Sweden
    [19/06/2015 12:45:59 PM] Sirius 17: lol, another 67er
    [19/06/2015 12:46:31 PM] Sirius 17: Max yes
    [19/06/2015 12:46:40 PM] Sirius 17: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Tegmark

    Tegmark has also formulated the "Ultimate ensemble theory of everything", whose only postulate is that "all structures that exist mathematically exist also physically". This simple theory, with no free parameters at all, suggests that in those structures complex enough to contain self-aware substructures (SASs), these SASs will subjectively perceive themselves as existing in a physically "real" world. This idea is formalized as the mathematical universe hypothesis,[7] described in his book Our Mathematical Universe.

    [19/06/2015 12:49:18 PM] Sirius 17: Yes he is an interesting guy
    [19/06/2015 12:49:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is ok. But there is no ensemble of universes in parallel
    [19/06/2015 12:50:47 PM] Sirius 17: no they all miss the cornerstone precept of the GOT
    [19/06/2015 12:50:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Indeed. The book would be fine though. It is simply Plato extended.
    [19/06/2015 12:51:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Abba is platonic see? Baab is Aristotelean. No conflict
    [19/06/2015 12:51:59 PM] Sirius 17: lol ok, i never thought of it that way
    [19/06/2015 12:57:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I found the other chapters. 102+ pages lol. Not published.
    [19/06/2015 12:57:34 PM] Sirius 17: lol another project for you
    [19/06/2015 12:57:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Lol should we publish?
    [19/06/2015 12:57:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Apart from you noone will read it lol
    [19/06/2015 12:57:57 PM] Sirius 17: sure i let you decide; oh who knows hon and we don't know who is reading it; the ETs are for sure
    [19/06/2015 12:58:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: authored by MI and me lol
    [19/06/2015 12:58:50 PM] Sirius 17: i did think you published it once someplace on spruz?
    [19/06/2015 12:58:54 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No, I only scanned the algorithm
    [19/06/2015 12:59:27 PM] Sirius 17: well then yes you should publish it in its entirety
    [19/06/2015 12:59:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: There are 3 other parts most ok but some parts superceded sciencewise now
    [19/06/2015 12:59:51 PM] Sirius 17: but up to you, i know it is a lot of work scanning all that
    [19/06/2015 12:59:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I let you read the first pages without the Algos; yes
    [19/06/2015 1:00:07 PM] Sirius 17: 102 pages lol omg; yes a lot
    [19/06/2015 1:02:29 PM] Sirius 17: are you publishing this convo?
    [19/06/2015 1:05:55 PM] Sirius 17: well if you do just encode the names please, for their sakes
    [19/06/2015 1:06:31 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq1.jpg gq1.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 1:06:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No, I did not intend to share this, but some context might now be appropriate
    [19/06/2015 1:09:29 PM] Sirius 17: Nice title
    [19/06/2015 1:12:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well this stuff is 20 years old but would best reflect what MI asked me to do. I want you to read page 1
    [19/06/2015 1:13:15 PM] Sirius 17: well send it to me
    [19/06/2015 1:13:16 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq2.jpg gq2.jpg ***. This is not it; consider I must scan edit and collect before I can do so
    [19/06/2015 1:14:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes ok, i see this is another title page
    [19/06/2015 1:14:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Not even page 1 yet
    [19/06/2015 1:18:54 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq3.jpg gq3.jpg ***
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    [19/06/2015 1:23:36 PM] Page 00*** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq5.jpg gq5.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 1:30:23 PM] Sirius 17: a hummingbird just came, an Anna's, i think he remembered the feeder from winter, i have not seen him in a while, just the rufious have been coming. This page seems familar about the schrodinger's cat
    [19/06/2015 1:32:11 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq6.jpg gq6.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 1:37:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is page 1. This page 1 might be nicer to read and I want you to comment on it
    [19/06/2015 1:45:36 PM] Sirius 17: yes i like it so far
    [19/06/2015 1:49:00 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq7.jpg gq7.jpg ***
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    [19/06/2015 2:00:49 PM] Sirius 17: my garbage can opened again by itself lol
    [19/06/2015 2:02:48 PM] Sirius 17: 2 fake universes?
    [19/06/2015 2:03:12 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq9.jpg gq9.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 2:05:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 'fake' here means doubling like the Moebian surfaces
    [19/06/2015 2:06:05 PM] Sirius 17: oh ok
    [19/06/2015 2:06:22 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It is mathematical and I would use not fake nowadays but image. This Donaldson maths is higherD geometry
    [19/06/2015 2:07:26 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As you see this was the summary MI wanted me to write after her passing
    [19/06/2015 2:07:33 PM] Sirius 17: so if the 4th is an image or 'fake' what is the other one?
    [19/06/2015 2:07:55 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It sort of collects the previous written works by myself from 1976-1995
    [19/06/2015 2:08:12 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Look at this again
    [19/06/2015 2:08:15 PM] Sirius 17: yes she wanted you to put it all in one place
    [19/06/2015 2:08:29 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent maths00.png maths00.png *
    [19/06/2015 2:08:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes
    [19/06/2015 2:10:44 PM] Sirius 17: oh the 10th
    [19/06/2015 2:11:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Its the negative timespace BEING the image AS the metaphysical image of the physical universe
    [19/06/2015 2:12:37 PM] Sirius 17: ok yes i read that and was confused, as thinking that there was no negative timespace
    [19/06/2015 2:13:26 PM] Sirius 17: because you said the regression from its inverse cannot become twosided
    [19/06/2015 2:13:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: There isn't in the physicality; it is like the negative of the positive in a photo say
    [19/06/2015 2:14:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can imagine that
    [19/06/2015 2:14:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Both are real but in a different mode of expression. The universe metaphysical is like the negative of a photo or hologram say
    [19/06/2015 2:15:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes and out of a negative many positives can be made; well in photography anyhow
    [19/06/2015 2:16:52 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq10.jpg gq10.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 2:20:11 PM] Sirius 17: what does SI mean, some intelligent observer?
    [19/06/2015 2:21:27 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq11.jpg gq11.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 2:21:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: System Internationale. The scientific measurement units on Earth
    [19/06/2015 2:29:27 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq12.jpg gq12.jpg ***
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    [19/06/2015 2:47:12 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq17.jpg gq17.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 2:47:57 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So you gonna publish those pics lol?
    [19/06/2015 2:48:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It will take me a few days
    [19/06/2015 2:48:21 PM] Sirius 17: what pics?
    [19/06/2015 2:48:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: gq
    [19/06/2015 2:48:39 PM] Sirius 17: the ones you just sent me?
    [19/06/2015 2:48:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes. It is MI's coauthorship and so yours too you know
    [19/06/2015 2:49:28 PM] Sirius 17: so how do you want me to title it ? you dont want to wait until you get the whole thing scanned?
    [19/06/2015 2:49:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It will be too much all at once. Just centre it as is as reply to the last legacy or 301 and on xen
    [19/06/2015 2:50:16 PM] Sirius 17: ok
    [19/06/2015 2:50:25 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: No comments required
    [19/06/2015 2:50:26 PM] Sirius 17: then transfer it from xen to moa? or wait
    [19/06/2015 2:50:39 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If you want or I can do it
    [19/06/2015 2:50:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: But I want you to add this to xen as MI see?
    [19/06/2015 2:51:00 PM] Sirius 17: ok i will, give me a few
    [19/06/2015 2:51:13 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Just do the order 1-20 say, as iit will take me a bit to upload them all. For 1 day
    [19/06/2015 2:51:30 PM] Sirius 17: so on legacy ?
    [19/06/2015 2:51:44 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I put this on both legacy and 301
    [19/06/2015 2:52:02 PM] Sirius 17: ok i will do it on legacy first then transfer it to 301
    [19/06/2015 2:52:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Just do 1 as it easy for me to transfer in bbcode
    [19/06/2015 2:52:09 PM] Sirius 17: ok
    [19/06/2015 2:52:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: If you dont do bbcode it could be laborious. Do 1 on moa if you like
    [19/06/2015 2:53:21 PM] Sirius 17: well i need to upload it to xen before i go to moa, as i can't upload on moa
    [19/06/2015 2:53:34 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Yes i know
    [19/06/2015 2:53:37 PM] Sirius 17: so i will just do xenforo first
    [19/06/2015 3:04:20 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/ind...e-de-alpha-draconis-omega.2/page-16#post-6646
    [19/06/2015 3:06:43 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I will stop at gq21 for today as I must cook soup for Helen's last day lol
    [19/06/2015 3:07:05 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: if you center the 1st one all willcenter i think
    [19/06/2015 3:07:27 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq18.jpg gq18.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 3:08:53 PM] Sirius 17: ok it is fixed
    [19/06/2015 3:09:59 PM] Sirius 17: ok got 18, anymore?
    [19/06/2015 3:10:00 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq19.jpg gq19.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 3:10:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 2 to come
    [19/06/2015 3:11:56 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq20.jpg gq20.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 3:12:04 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Very nice formula here - Carbonmagic
    [19/06/2015 3:12:22 PM] Sirius 17: yes i was looking at that
    [19/06/2015 3:12:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Try to read the science too as coauthor please
    [19/06/2015 3:12:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am dear; are you sending me more pages?
    [19/06/2015 3:13:18 PM] Sirius 17: i have through 19 done
    [19/06/2015 3:15:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 20 and 21
    [19/06/2015 3:15:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: There is an error on 21 - the ylem radius
    [19/06/2015 3:16:10 PM] Sirius 17: well fix it then scan; you have white out?
    [19/06/2015 3:16:25 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq21.jpg gq21.jpg ***
    [19/06/2015 3:16:31 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I am looking
    [19/06/2015 3:16:47 PM] Sirius 17: or just put in an addendum
    [19/06/2015 3:16:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As said this is 20 years old and a few equations have been modified
    [19/06/2015 3:17:00 PM] Sirius 17: yes i realise
    [19/06/2015 3:17:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: There is no 5kT but just kT in the equation
    [19/06/2015 3:17:41 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I am looking what to do; dont publish 21 as yet, but this will be the last one for today
    [19/06/2015 3:18:02 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You fix after scanning lol
    [19/06/2015 3:18:07 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/index.php?threads/a-new-world-of-universal-logistics.1121/page-7
    [19/06/2015 3:18:08 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You scan paper dear
    [19/06/2015 3:20:51 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Its ok. I am checking maths
    [19/06/2015 3:21:04 PM] Sirius 17: ok i have 20 and 21 on

    [10:21:01 PM-Thursday, June 18th, 2015/-7UCT] Allisiam: ok i have 20 and 21 on
    [10:28:49 PM] Allisiam: lol hubble constant of 66 hubble units
    [10:29:19 PM] Allisiam: uncanny
    [11:12:45 PM] Allisiam: i made it to page 13 so far but i need to get to bed Tonylove
    [11:13:36 PM] *** Shiloh Za-Rah sent gq21.jpg ***
    [11:13:50 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: i edited this lol
    [11:14:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I made this complicated then lol in the density factor
    [11:14:02 PM] Allisiam: should i replace the old one with this one?
    [11:14:07 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: yes please
    [11:14:09 PM] Allisiam: ok
    [11:14:13 PM] Allisiam: question
    [11:14:22 PM] Allisiam: was there only one Ylem star to being with?
    [11:15:24 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The ylems are VPE concentrations and depend on the temperature background of the expanding universe then zooming into those vacuum fluctuations which so are VPE concentrations
    [11:15:53 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This then is the higher D BH-WH physics directly from the Big Bang temperature as a Black Body radiator
    [11:16:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is because the Abba membrane has a specific maximum BH temperature per the Hawking model
    [11:16:38 PM] Allisiam: ok
    [11:16:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 1.4x1020 K
    [11:16:45 PM] Allisiam: 21 is fixed and replaced
    [11:16:48 PM] Allisiam: so check it
    [11:17:27 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: As this defines the wormhole scale the temperature of the singularity say is so different from when the overall universe in 4D had this temperature
    [11:17:28 PM] Allisiam: my brain can't even fathom those temps lol
    [11:17:42 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This difference is behind star- and galaxy formation etc
    [11:18:00 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Well at the bang the temp was so 1036 K
    [11:18:09 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 16 magnitudes greater
    [11:18:31 PM] Allisiam: yeah intense
    [11:18:45 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The superstring so could not exist in physicality then and it took a nanosecond to cool down to that
    [11:19:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: A nanosecond is 1 billionth of a second
    [11:19:40 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So in this time the temps dropped 16 magnitudes or a million billion times
    [11:20:18 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This stuff explains the inflation and the singularity and those questions they worry about in the mainstream
    [11:20:27 PM] Allisiam: yes i see
    [11:20:56 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It was a temperature war of the microquantum catching up to the space expansion
    [11:21:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Perhaps you should share those Q and A
    [11:21:31 PM] Allisiam: sure
    [11:21:47 PM] Allisiam: i need to get bed though soon
    [11:22:03 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The maths is more detailed and precise in the other legacy papers
    [11:22:16 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This one is 'special' to the MIIM as we know
    [2:45:57 AM-Saturday, June 20th, 2015/+10UCT] Sirius 17: that is interesting that the matter distribution is set in timecycles of 70 divisions
    [2:46:03 AM] Sirius 17: not sure i am saying that right
    [9:44:24 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I dont think I have revisited this in later work. But it aligns of course with the psalms
    [9:44:52 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: So it is ok, but a little ad hoc as a detailed scientific modus
    [9:45:28 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Had another argument with Helen last night about 1-1 stuff. She has left now.
    [9:45:58 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Her old human mind is as antisex as is Jack's
    [9:46:57 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: They dont understand that the human 1-1 is a temporary cosmic invention to reflect the one and only Abba-Baab God-Goddess archetype in human partnerships - as a physical mirror for mental reality as the exclusiveness of the particular individuation meant to evolve into the manyness encompassed by mental loyalties. This then is the basis for the (anti)sex(ism) stances and descriptors in the scriptures, including the Pauline letters found in the NT. Once the human groupmind has evolved enough to understand this, the old cosmic invention/creation will become recreated and refined.
    The 'twinsoul' is the cosmic bisexual nature within the individual and cannot be found outside of that cosmic identity or 'soul energy'.
    All individuations, especially on the quarantined planet Earth so harbour both the Old Adam+Eve archetypology and the New AdamEve symbology, metamorphosing the old separated and self-conflicted human into a templated unified starhuman
    [9:47:38 AM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The real GoddoG is supersexual as the universe or cosmos is and so becomes inverted and perverted lol in the Antigod agendas, posing as the 'pureness' and a 'possessive virginity' dressed up in the 'human morality'. The true cosmos is rather contraindicative as you can observe and witness in the kingdoms of nature in the flora and fauna and so on​
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    empty. Re: The Factuals versus the Old Age BS or OABS

    empty. shiloh Today at 9:20 pm
    Raven wrote: [9:49:36 AM-Tuesday, June23rd, 2015/-7UCT]

    Extraterrestrial Physics of the Citizen's Disclosure Project

    [2:39:32 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: This is also interesting about contact and the ETs- Richard Dolan and the book quotes of this Hellyer bloke
    [2:39:51 PM] Sirius 17: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/23/us/feat-ceres-pyramid/index.html did you see this?
    [2:39:52 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: It refers to the disclosure of Thuban-Logos
    [2:40:10 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: I mean they don’t know but we do what this scenario is
    [2:41:36 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: could be some chemical deposit
    [2:43:17 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: 3 miles is about 5 km Mt Everest is 8 km
    [2:44:47 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Anyway listen to this foot doctor Leir and Dolan mainly
    [2:45:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: there is some good stuff from Leir at the end
    [2:45:20 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: Hellyer is ok when reading from the ET telepathy
    [2:45:38 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: most other stuff you can skip and Greer you know
    [2:45:59 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: The science bloke just describes our 'Cosmic magnetism' paper
    [2:46:06 PM] Sirius 17: ok
    [2:46:30 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: he is wrong calling Einstein's Equivalence Principle wrong, but I know what he means
    [2:46:48 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: He means the prior magnetic monopole physics of rotating masses/inertia
    [2:47:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will watch it
    [2:47:06 PM] Shiloh Za-Rah: You will understand this well enough


    The Inertial Newtonian Mass equation F=ma, applied to the Lorentz Force F=qvxB and applied as a magnetic force law is not quite correct, but is rather an approximation to the actual ET omniphysics.
    Just as the electromagnetic wave propagation consists of both electric and magnetic field components; so does this connection of forces unify characteristic accelerations in a dimensional bridge, transformation or intersection.

    The derivation engages the higher dimensional membrane physics and is based on the definition of physical consciousness as inverse source energy of the Zero-Point Energy or Vacuum Potential Energy characterising both the 'dark matter' and the 'dark energy' and as Tom Valone appropriately infers from the UFO science in his testimony given in the video presentation above.

    The universal spacetime matrix defines the inverse source energy as a high energy microcosmic part of the 11D supermembrane unified with its low energy macrocosmic partner and as E(p)rimary(s)ource=hfps=1/e* and with e* being the higher dimensional originator for the link between universal gravitation and magnetism in the form of a magnetic monopole.
    This form of primordial higherD magnetism then forms a dimensional gradient or intersection with a lower electric pole, known as the familiar electric charge carrying inertial mass associated elementary particles, like electrons and protons and subatomic constituents of matter.

    In the origins of the universe, the quantum form of the Big Bang manifested space from a quantum fluctuation, which can be described as the 'bounce of a minimum length' or a 'Planck-Length-Oscillation', which can be formally expressed as the ratio of 'MassCharge'/Energy = e/c2 in the Planck Oscillator Eo=½hfo=hw/4p as precursor for the 'Uncertainty Principle' of the Heisenberg Field matrix of spacetime.

    The mensuration- or measurement units for the 'Planck-Length-Oscillator' so identify the origin of displacement as a Electropole Charge 'e'/c2 ratio and which has 'Stoney Charge Units' for a 'dimensionless' 'speed of light squared'.

    e/c2=√Alpha.Planck-Length=√{(e2/2eohc).(Goh/2pc3)}=√(Goe2/4peoc4)=√(Go/4peo).e/c2=e/c2 for Unity 1 in Go=4peo.

    This unity boundary condition or 'Action=Charge Squared' Universal Law of MultiD crystallizes naturally from the Identification of the dimensionless finestructures for the higher dimensional membrane unification between the gravitational and electromagnetic finestructures.
    Omega = Gravitational Finestructure = 2pGoM2/hc = 2pke2/hc = Alpha = Electromagnetic Finestructure and for k=1/4peo.
    Then GoM2 = ke2 and for Gok=1 for Go=1/k=4peo.

    The 'Universal Mass' M can then be expressed as M2 = k2e2 and M=e/4peo

    The Maxwell Theory of Electromagnetism however defines the invariance of the Mass/Energy ratio for the inverse of the square of the speed of light as the product of magnetic permeability mo and electric permittivity eo in the coupling of the magnetic field with the electric field in that electromagnetic wave.
    This can be written as moeo=(120p/c)(1/120pc)= 1/c2 with M=e/4eo=[30ec]monopolar

    The magnetopole charge e* from the 'higher' 12th dimension so 'maps' or dimensionally intersects the 'lower' 3rd dimensional electropole charge e across a 11-dimensional mirror, which can be formally identified as the higher dimensional boundary for the lower dimensional universe and also as its 'holographic' de Sitter Black Hole 'Hubble Event' Horizon.

    The 12 dimensional 'displacement bounce' manifests as a 3 dimensional elementary distance scale, known as the classical radius of the electron and defined in the electropotential energy of the electron in E=melectronc2=ke2/Relectron and so for Relectron=ke2/melectronc2.
    Setting the Inverse Source Energy quantum at the foundational VPE wormhole scale, defined in the magnetopole charge e*=1/Eps=2Relectronc2 then defines this inversion membrane-string quantum energy as the product of ordinary 3D volume multiplied by angular acceleration, expressed as the time differential for frequency f or df/dt=awareness aw, say as the alphaomega quantum of creation.

    The Linear Acceleration in Newton's Force Law F=ma transforms into an Angular Acceleration in the Lorentz Law formulations of Haisch-Puthoff utilized by Thomas Valone.

    The Biot-Savart Law for a magnetic field is given by B=moev/4pr2 measured in Tesla with a linear velocity v relating to an angular velocity w via radius r as v=wr=2pf.r and reducing to v=wr=pf.r for the minimum Planck Oscillator Eo=½hfo

    B=(120p/c).ewr/8pr2=30ecw/2rc2 = Mw/2c2r

    A reformulation of the Biot-Savart Law inclusive of the higher dimensional acceleration coupling, then equates to the Lorentz Force manifesting as the UFO propulsion-antigravitational dynamics observed and analysed.

    F=evxB = ewr.Mw/2c2r = e w2angularMgravitational=inertial higherD/2c2 = Minertial lowerDalinear in the elementary ET Force Ratio:

    F12D/F3D = Mgravitationalw2angular/Minertialalinear = 2c2/e = 2c2Relectron/eRelectron= e*/eRelectron = 1/EpseRelectron = 1/hfpseRelectron

    In higher D it is the electropole charge e of the lower dimension, which manifests the magnetopole charge e* as universal 'spacetime awareness' or physical consciousness.
    The 'Magnetic Lorentz Force' of Haisch-Puthoff-Valone then superimposes the intrinsic (selfcontained) angular 'higher D' acceleration of the UFO spacecraft as dimensional gradient between the space -separated charges e and e* onto its linear 4D spacetime matrix to manifest the 'spacetime jumps' and rapid acceleration phenomena observed in UFO manouvers.

    This part of their formulation is correct; however the Equivalence Principle of General Relativity remains valid in that the inertial mass acceleration measured in Minkowski spacetime is gravitationally indistinguishable from the acceleration experienced in a gravitational field.
    It is not a difference in the formulations for the mass-inertia parameter, which enables the force interactions to intersect dimensionally without the spacetime dependency as stipulated by lightspeed invariance; but the origins of the mass itself, either expressed linearly inertially or spinning gravitationally.
    The origins of mass as fundamental parameter to formulate a law of gravitation, so derives not from some 'Big Banged' matter-antimatter distribution, but from a massless 'wormholed' supermembraned universe, whose curvature was caused by the unification boundary condition of the equivalence of the electromagnetic- and gravitational finestructures, known as Alpha and Omega respectively.

    Those finestructures then determined the quantum properties of displacement, time, mass and charge as a function of the 'wormhole oscillation'; defining properties such as the mass, charge and size of the electron as the fundamental spacetime path of the minimum 12D spacetime configuration of the wormhole and given by the Planck-Length-Oscillation as a direct manifestation or image in the Classical 3D Radius of the Electron, the latter also defining the subatomic magnetic asymptotic confinement of the nuclear interactions and the size of the Higgs- and Weakon bosons.

    The Alpha-Omega Unification underpinning all physics terrestrial and omniphysics extraterrestrial then enables the physical cosmology and universe to emerge in an evolving spacetime continuum, however wormhole based; from its metaphysical precursor, whose elementary building block becomes the Quantum of Consciousness defined in the inversed source energy aka the magnetopole charge e*.

    The metaphysical connector to the physics can be shown to unify in a pure abstract mathematical series known as the Fibonacci Numbers and a 'Golden Ratio' to relate in one-to-one correspondence to the electromagnetic finestructure constant Alpha defined in a manifested physical universe as the size and scale of an electropolar charged electron.

    The Zero-Point-Energy of the wormhole matrix permeating all spacetimes then provides a energy reservoir of potential manifestation and utility, depending however on the ability of spacetime inhabitors and observers to 'tap' this energy via resonating with the native definitions of the 'cosmic awareness' defining the constituents of the universe and including such notions of 'Dark Energy' and the 'Dark Matter' and as a function of the 'Consciousness Supercosmic Energy'.

    Now some not so moronic, naive and gullible nabsers swarming the 'alternative science' forums might understand the real ET physics and could share this information with the Citizen's Disclosure Project's congress folk and say Steven Greer and Thomas Valone and Roger Leir and associates and similars.
    Would this not allow the ETs to move a step closer of real science disclosure being made possible?
    The true ET Councils know their own science of course, but the fake ET councils do not.
    Then any 'incomplete and underinformed' 'ptb secret technology' and 'dark operation projects' will lose their relevance and no longer would be necessity for ET contact with their cosmic agendas and as stipulated by the real ET councils.



    Shalom de Alpha Draconis Omega of the 4th Contact Scenario in the Shadow of Logistics of Thuban​

    [23-Apr-16 1:15:59 PM] ShilohaPlace: Well hopefully you feel the beneficial energy from it
    [23-Apr-16 1:29:33 PM] Sirius 17: we are back, yes today is earth day as well and so the ultimate truth cannot be conveyed in words but can be felt as energy
    ShilohaPlace: This is a non sequitur. Of course feeling is potent but proper explanations can certainly lead to understandings
    Sirius 17: yes i guess what i was trying to convey is that the energy can't lie; it either is or it isn't - you can't twist its words
    ShilohaPlace: True what I am trying to show you with my desires for your bodyform. This is being FELT and has biochemical brain-mind effects etc
    Sirius 17: yes i understood something just now
    ShilohaPlace: Phew. Namely?
    Sirius 17: call it a wordless knowing, i felt the truth
    ShilohaPlace: Which is?
    Sirius 17: the Logos
    ShilohaPlace: Yes and how do we feel the Logos?
    Sirius 17: well through love and the desire for more of it and the desire to merge with it
    ShilohaPlace: Yes cosmic seduction is a word for some high sexual vibration energy permeating our bodies or such. Kundalini as just another word for it, but known for millennia to exist
    Sirius 17: yes but it is beyond kundalini
    ShilohaPlace: In our case yes, as it is the JCCJ. But the kundalini idea is the sexual expression of the two as one etc say as a triple serpent not just a twin
    Sirius 17: anyone can induce kundalini, this is much deeper and more intense
    ShilohaPlace: As said the white serpent from above is new adding to the left black and right gold. So it is actually two-way-communication across dimensions

    [23-Apr-16 2:37:38 PM] Sirius 17: but how does this relate to the color triplicities
    [23-Apr-16 2:38:10 PM] ShilohaPlace: A little technical, but there are 2 basic triplets
    Sirius 17: left=...right=...gold=...?
    ShilohaPlace: A third becomes the blend of the first 2. No Red is primary start and Yellow is secondary start. Now tell me the tertiary start as a colour
    Sirius 17: green?
    Shilohalacee: No, Green is the 2nd of the 1st triplet
    Sirius 17: blue
    ShilohaPlace: RGB and YCM remember. Blue is the 3rd of the 1st. How was the 2nd tripled made? RGB is the beginning. Mix Red and Green = ?
    Sirius 17: by mixing rgb with ycm?
    ShilohaPlace: Yes; Red+Green=Yellow. Look at this 'secret' for UFO propulsion with respect to what Valone and company term the 'shielding of inertia'. You are here seeing the primary causes of why the ufos display the colours they do in their manouvers. Of course he got 'Einstein's Equivalence mistake' mistaken lol, as what he terms gravitational mass as distinct from inertial mass relates to mass spacetime quantization in the 11D membrane field, where inertial mass becomes a frequency equivalence. But the observation of rotating ufos creating the magneto monopolic electricity as gravitation is correct as shown in this post and elsewhere. The second pic relates to the intrinsic supersymmetry of Maxwell's equation in the introduction of the magnetic (Dirac) monopole as parallel energy manifesto for the higher D - lower D intersection.

    valone1-.36114. valone2-.36115.

    [23-Apr-16 2:41:06 PM] ShilohaPlace: So what is the new potential to make the 3rd? As you said mix 1st and 2nd triplets. Red+Yellow = ?
    [23-Apr-16 2:41:36 PM] Sirius 17: lol i don't know i am lost; orange
    ShilohaPlace: Indeed. Orange is the start of the third triplet of the radiationmass -resurrection energy etc
    Sirius 17: and orange is what chakra again?
    ShilohaPlace: Red-Green-Blue = Radiation/Antiradiation - Yellow-Cyan-Magenta = Matter/Antimatter triplet
    Orange-Lime-Aquamarine-Turqouise-Indigo-Purple becomes the third. Doubled because Red mixes with Yellow mixes with Green. So there are 2 colours in between R-Y-G. Namely Orange and Lime
    Sirius 17: yes i see
    ShilohaPlace: Its just the rainbow. Ergo the NW covenant of the Noah as a rainbow. Now you see why Orange is often associated with 'spirituality' say in the robes of tibetean monks etc
    Sirius 17: yeah
    ShilohaPlace: And the Mexican Ufos you posted some years ago. Drunvalo stuff
    Sirius 17: we actually came across one at the tulip festival, a tibetian monk, he was wearing the orange toga robe
    ShilohaPlace: So you see I am not making things up. There are contexts
    Sirius 17: i never thought you were making anything up
    ShilohaPlace: I know but many do lol
    Sirius 17: yes i know, they don't read deeply enough
    ShilohaPlace: And you are labelled as a Parrot a truth parrot to me
    Sirius 17: or at all in most cases and yes i am just a mindless parrot on a string lol; don't tell them i am the string itself tony, lol
    ShilohaPlace: sexy bird goddess to me - volupta
    Sirius 17: did i tell you Carolina drew me as a bright red unicorn with a green mane?
    ShilohaPlace: Red+Green from spirit creates the body in mass
    Sirius 17: she is going to surpass me as an artist if she chooses
    ShilohaPlace: Sure kids normally do. She wont surpass you in sexappeal though relative to Abba
    Sirius 17: so what are you doing now?

    Shiloh Za-RaH hidden-09.

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