Raven Posts: 265 Join date: 2010-04-10 Age: 45 Location: The Emerald City Post n°1 Conversations regarding the Cosmic Changes in Archetypes and Symbols Raven Today at 4:24 am The Cosmic Baker's Recipes! [3:34:58 PM - Wednesday, September 12th, 2012 - (+10UCT)] Thubanis: The Cosmic Baker's recipes. This JT convo was good yes [3:35:42 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh ya lots of great info coming to the light now [3:35:47 PM] Thubanis: Perhaps we should publish it at MOA [3:36:18 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: sure [3:36:49 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: should dress it up and throw a big show [3:37:00 PM] Thubanis: You wanna do that? [3:37:07 PM] Thubanis: With pics perhaps? [3:37:23 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well i already was yappin bout some of it on my ciabook wall [3:37:23 PM] Thubanis: Raven and me can do it [3:37:43 PM] Thubanis: Would be good though if you can share it [3:37:48 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: go nuts lol i did [3:38:04 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well sure i can post some of it [3:38:16 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: perhaps i will start smashing a few things [3:38:36 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: stranger things have happened [3:39:04 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i am very excited about star gates [9/11/2012 3:55:52 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: hmmmmm [9/11/2012 3:57:07 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: so how come you going bonkers lol [9/11/2012 3:57:38 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: do our thoughts mirror back into our reality? [9/11/2012 3:58:58 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: like star cruisers and eternal life! [9/11/2012 3:59:16 PM] Thubanis: Who is going bonkers? [9/11/2012 3:59:46 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i was outside chillin...and just as i was walking towards the door i saw another zippy little light orpb blink in and out go flying by [9/11/2012 4:00:00 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: whos not going crazy might be a better question [9/11/2012 4:00:03 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: [9/11/2012 4:00:06 PM] Thubanis: Micjer Micjer Posts: 1262 Join date: 2010-04-29 Location: Canada Post n°14 Re: Israel's War Plans to Attack Iran "Before the US Elections" Micjer Yesterday at 9:52 pm Canada being steadily Zionized http://www.presstv.ir/detail/260746.html If anyone wants to see what a US administration under Mormon-Zionist Mitt Romney would look like, one only has to look at the steady Zionization of Canada under the government of Tory Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Canada, a one-time independent-minded NATO member whose diplomatic offices were once valued by Third World governments as a trusted liaison to Washington, is now considered by many nations as more right-wing and anti-Muslim and anti-Arab than the United States. Canada’s recent decision to expel the Iranian embassy staff in Ottawa and call home Canadian diplomats in Tehran at the behest of Israel supporters in the Canadian Conservative Party and their allies in the right-wing government of Israel is a testament to Canada’s far-right foreign policy. [9/11/2012 4:00:33 PM] Thubanis: Look at this just posted 'ZIONISATION'; but they don't see the archetypes in the cosmic sense [9/11/2012 4:00:46 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: Who is Micjer?! [9/11/2012 4:00:58 PM] Thubanis: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t52...-to-attack-iran-before-the-us-elections#81319 [9/11/2012 4:01:03 PM] Thubanis: Some Moabyte [9/11/2012 4:01:21 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: he is from the original Project Avalon 1 forum [9/11/2012 4:01:35 PM] Thubanis: There is a much much deeper ZION happening now [9/11/2012 4:01:45 PM] Thubanis: Not political NABS [9/11/2012 4:01:50 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: he says he lives in my area...like very close to me [9/11/2012 4:01:58 PM] Thubanis: Yes, I thought that too [9/11/2012 4:02:19 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: he used to make many posts and we had a few private msgs [9/11/2012 4:02:25 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i cant recal the details of them now [9/11/2012 4:02:35 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: prob harper nwo kinda stuff [9/11/2012 4:03:43 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: anyway...so what is it that you are saying they are missing...the shifting that is taking in the higher dimension ... the archetypes [9/11/2012 4:04:21 PM] Thubanis: Yes the energy behind the symbols becomes like this 3D stuff, but the actual cause of this is cosmic [9/11/2012 4:05:44 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh [9/11/2012 4:06:04 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: behind what symbols? [9/11/2012 4:06:49 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i really dont like harper and have called for his arrest several times again about 1 hour ago [9/11/2012 4:07:12 PM] Thubanis: The symbols are the code like cosmic genetic programming JT [9/11/2012 4:07:39 PM] Thubanis: Its what created the genetic code of the biochemistry you can see as lifeforms [9/11/2012 4:08:35 PM] Thubanis: Just ask yourself just how chemical elements can combine in a nucleotidal base alphabet and form proteins from amino acids to make all those bodyforms [9/11/2012 4:08:43 PM] Thubanis: Its a Matrix program [9/11/2012 4:09:10 PM] Thubanis: Its intelligent [9/11/2012 4:09:47 PM] Thubanis: It is from those codes, that ET morphs and starships would be built [9/11/2012 4:11:04 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh those symbols amazing! [9/11/2012 4:11:32 PM] Thubanis: Its an actual cosmic computer program JT [9/11/2012 4:11:33 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well it sounds like we need to do some code cracking on healing and health [9/11/2012 4:12:05 PM] Thubanis: The universe itself BEING the computer hardware and the collective cosmic intelligence and consciousness responsible for the software [9/11/2012 4:12:19 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh nice! [9/11/2012 4:12:29 PM] Thubanis: Many realise this JT [9/11/2012 4:12:43 PM] Thubanis: How all things are connected and interwoven [9/11/2012 4:12:58 PM] Thubanis: Holographic Matrix in science semantics [9/11/2012 4:13:27 PM] Thubanis: But this 'intelligence' forms a bridge between all worlds and all dimensions [9/11/2012 4:14:30 PM] Thubanis: Any future 'New World' would have to BE aware of this energy as a resonance energy vibration (say) to manipulate the multiD [9/11/2012 4:14:55 PM] Thubanis: This is what the NABS calls 'higher vibrational consciousness' [9/11/2012 4:18:25 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: so how can this knowledge and understaning of it be used to stop the wars and the noise about it? [9/11/2012 4:18:54 PM] Thubanis: I can see only one way to end the violence JT [9/11/2012 4:19:18 PM] Thubanis: In practical terms the Old World is 'run' by two things [9/11/2012 4:20:14 PM] Thubanis: The Religion of the technocrats, the developers, the economics, money speculators or currency 'sharks', and the investors, all requiring a Universal Code and philosophy and this is 'Modern Science'; [9/11/2012 4:20:56 PM] Thubanis: The other thing is the Religion of the 'lesser educated' and this is what the 'religions' then become, including alternatives, like 'New Age philosophy' [9/11/2012 4:21:35 PM] Thubanis: So the Science of the 'rich' is Science and the Science of the 'poor' is Religion [9/11/2012 4:21:56 PM] Thubanis: To MAKE PEACE between ALL religions has become IMPOSSIBLE now [9/11/2012 4:22:37 PM] Thubanis: EXCEPT a 'higher cosmic' agenda infiltrates, even 'wars' against the old split or the science-religion dichotomies [9/11/2012 4:22:52 PM] Thubanis: So what CAN 'save' humanity? [9/11/2012 4:22:57 PM] Thubanis: CONTACT only [9/11/2012 4:23:34 PM] Thubanis: The contactees however are NOT aliens from outer space, but a human remnant which has evolved past the old genotype [9/11/2012 4:24:50 PM] Thubanis: So in practical terms, this means that 'alien ETs', somehow interwoven with our so called 'dead ones' or 'passed over ones' must come and hybridise with this remant, which we here call Dragons [9/11/2012 4:25:29 PM] Thubanis: It actually is a true hybridisation between bodyforms in a new morphogenetic structure [9/11/2012 4:26:01 PM] Thubanis: Not cyborgs like in scifi between humans and machines; but between humans and starhumans aka ET forms [9/11/2012 4:26:21 PM] Thubanis: Caterpillar into Butterfly in a Cosmometamorphosis [9/11/2012 4:26:50 PM] Thubanis: This is the 'Dream' of the Old Humanity [9/11/2012 4:27:14 PM] Thubanis: And it will be POSSIBLE, but not perhaps imminent from Xmas 2012 [9/11/2012 4:27:39 PM] Thubanis: IMO it will take until 2034 to 'wean' the old human into a new human [9/11/2012 4:27:53 PM] Thubanis: But it SHOULD start Xmas 2012 [9/11/2012 4:28:04 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well [9/11/2012 4:28:52 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: contact from those of us who have done the hybirdization eh [9/11/2012 4:29:59 PM] Thubanis: Yes, and I would say we are qualified. But the timing is arbitrary and in the auspices of the 'Cosmic Merlins' lol. Only the nexus date of the beginnings is fixed. [9/11/2012 4:31:09 PM] Thubanis: To KNOW this story MIGHT be the prerequisite to 'make contact' and to hybridise with the ETs, which are themselves like our ancestors see this? [9/11/2012 4:31:50 PM] Thubanis: In terms of mind we are their 'children' or descendants BUT in terms of bodyform we are their parents and ancestors [9/11/2012 4:32:36 PM] Thubanis: From this understanding now, you can 'make sense' of all the NABS about genetic engeneerings, ET experiments, reptilians, greys and what have you [9/11/2012 4:33:01 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: [Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4 PM] Thubanis: <<< To KNOW this story MIGHT be the prerequisite to 'make contact' and to hybridise with the ETs, which are themselves like our ancestors see this? ummmm sort of lol [9/11/2012 4:33:18 PM] Thubanis: The ET wants Gaia's bodyshapes and forms and those lifeforms wish to share in the cosmic ET intelligence [9/11/2012 4:33:53 PM] Thubanis: Well it becomes a function of how electric parts of life interact with magnetic parts [9/11/2012 4:34:44 PM] Thubanis: Animal instinct is magnetic primary as inductance and ET sentience is electric capacitative without a proper bodyform [9/11/2012 4:35:00 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: Hybridisation or hybridization may refer to: The process of combining different varieties of organisms to create a hybrid (biology) Nucleic acid hybridisation, the process of joining two complementary strands of DNA Orbital hybridisation, the mixing of atomic orbitals to form new orbitals suitable for bonding The process of one variety (linguistics) blending with another variety The alteration of a vehicle into a hybrid electric vehicle In evolutionary algorithms, the merging two or more optimization techniques into a single algorithm Memetic algorithm, a common template for hybridisation In Globalization theory, the ongoing blending of cultures Hybridization in Business Information Systems, the creation of a third medium Hybridization in political election campaign communication, the combining of campaign techniques developed in different countries The controversial hypothesis of Neanderthal and human hybridization [9/11/2012 4:35:06 PM] Thubanis: So ETs want bodies and animals want higher mind [9/11/2012 4:35:23 PM] Thubanis: It is as simple as that. And to get it it must blend and merge [9/11/2012 4:35:39 PM] Thubanis: Therefore the human embryo NABS and abduction experiences [9/11/2012 4:36:00 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: so what is being hybridized...the body forms? our physical body with the et intellignce? [9/11/2012 4:36:23 PM] Thubanis: Yes, both in say a cross coupling multiD sex [9/11/2012 4:37:38 PM] Thubanis: As you see in the wiki reference, this is what scientists (anthropologists) consider in homo sapiens to homo sapiens sapiens Neanderthal and Cro Magnon colloquially [9/11/2012 4:38:19 PM] Thubanis: Its on the cellular level of the microbiology in the DNA but also macrocosmically [9/11/2012 4:38:42 PM] Thubanis: Worlds of ETs intersecting with the Human Egg or Cocoon of the Quarantine [9/11/2012 4:38:51 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh ya! [9/11/2012 4:39:16 PM] Thubanis: The Story 'fits all' see; but the timing depends on some other things [9/11/2012 4:39:47 PM] Thubanis: We can only hope, that the required decoding of the symbols is adequate in the cosmic necessities [9/11/2012 4:40:15 PM] Thubanis: If it is 'acceptable' then contact will be in 2013/14 the latest [9/11/2012 4:40:46 PM] Thubanis: First Contact for the few in hybridisation but as a 'presence' for the global human [9/11/2012 4:41:06 PM] Thubanis: More details I dont know as yet [9/11/2012 4:41:32 PM] Thubanis: Also just HOW this hybridisation of the 'few' will occur is still veiled [9/11/2012 4:41:35 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well that is quite a lot of information you have just shared here now [9/11/2012 4:41:49 PM] Thubanis: It is the 'Story' JT [9/11/2012 4:42:17 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yup and we are living it...so it would seem...AND SO IT BEGINS... [9/11/2012 4:42:22 PM] Thubanis: Not my story, no matter what people might say; but the Logos story of whom all incarnates and discarnates are matrix members [9/11/2012 4:42:44 PM] Thubanis: But there will be a war, a mental Armageddon = Dragon Made say [9/11/2012 4:42:59 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh i would love to smash a few minds! [9/11/2012 4:43:18 PM] Thubanis: The way I see the future and the 'fulfilment' of prophecies [9/11/2012 4:43:52 PM] Thubanis: The 'Holy Books' MUST BE museumized, meaning their potency must become dissolved by a NEW STORY eating the OLD STORY [9/11/2012 4:45:18 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i like new stories [9/11/2012 4:46:15 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: so do you think we can stop the physical wars and the zionization of the harper regiem? [9/11/2012 4:46:27 PM] Thubanis: You are being The New Story JT, in BEING Mark Twain and Merlin and the Begger of Calcutta [9/11/2012 4:46:48 PM Thubanis: It is the cosmic RPG! [9/11/2012 4:46:54 PM] James: James and Paulina will NEVER be together again,due to her selfish attitude, she a taker a user and a Freaking Lier, looking for a bloody sugar daddy, , [9/11/2012 4:47:25 PM] Thubanis: The cores have all fallen apart James. [9/11/2012 4:47:37 PM] Thubanis: Yours is not the only one. [9/11/2012 4:47:41 PM] James: its has been 3/5/12 the last time i have writen [9/11/2012 4:48:23 PM] Thubanis: But JT the point is NOT to restrict yourself to just one or a few parts in the cosmic RPG [9/11/2012 4:48:44 PM] Thubanis: You are both the 'king' and the 'pauper', the hero and the villain at the same time [9/11/2012 4:48:51 PM] Thubanis: Not many can play such roles [9/11/2012 4:48:52 PM] James: the only reason i am posting this is because what i read above about ROK/Xeia [9/11/2012 4:49:03 PM] Thubanis: Yes what I just said [9/11/2012 4:49:33 PM] Thubanis: There are NO cores in 3D now, BUT the templates are in higherD and there they exist NOW [9/11/2012 4:50:29 PM] Thubanis: Will we find our true cores in the foreseeable future? [9/11/2012 4:50:39 PM] James: this even i saw a crystal royal blue eye,in my meditation [9/11/2012 4:50:56 PM] James: gee im wonder what that was about [9/11/2012 4:51:02 PM] Thubanis: I dont know James; why I have resigned myself to 'work for the cosmos' and not individual 'fulfilments' now. [9/11/2012 4:51:35 PM] James: as you wish,so be it [9/11/2012 4:51:52 PM] Thubanis: Our true cores exist, as said; but when and how to recognise them I know as much as you do [9/11/2012 4:52:10 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: what if the cosmic work was individual fulfilments [9/11/2012 4:52:30 PM] Thubanis: Good point and I think it is, as the starhuman future JT [9/11/2012 4:52:36 PM] James: well i just accepted the fact,that i will not be getting any hot pussy soon [9/11/2012 4:52:46 PM] Thubanis: Join the club James [9/11/2012 4:52:51 PM] James: my love life is doa [9/11/2012 4:53:13 PM] Thubanis: What love life lol? [9/11/2012 4:53:20 PM] James: good one lol [9/11/2012 4:53:54 PM] James: perhaps as we move into the higher realms we may get lucky,,, [9/11/2012 4:54:13 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well its getting close to the date of sept 27 and you mention that htings should start to manifest...as of last two days i have noticed much motion and very positive connections in life [9/11/2012 4:54:14 PM] Thubanis: The higher realms are right where you are now James [9/11/2012 4:54:29 PM] James: hmmm [9/11/2012 4:54:37 PM] Thubanis: What did I say about September 27th? [9/11/2012 4:55:04 PM] Thubanis: The 64 days are August 9th to September 9th to September 10th to October 11th [9/11/2012 4:55:10 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: um that it was a date when manifestations should start to occur [9/11/2012 4:55:13 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: lol [9/11/2012 4:55:33 PM] James: thinking of moving to either mount shasta or lakebay,wa state buy some land and XXXX some horny trees,lol [9/11/2012 4:55:39 PM] Thubanis: I dont think I made a point on this [9/11/2012 4:56:01 PM] Thubanis: Manifestation of the 5D spacetime matrix must wait for the birth [9/11/2012 4:56:16 PM] Thubanis: I like your energy James [9/11/2012 4:56:24 PM] Thubanis: Dragon zest [9/11/2012 4:56:30 PM] James: (bow) [9/11/2012 4:56:30 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: "The 'cosmic judgements' have been made and will begin to manifest from September 27th" [9/11/2012 4:56:51 PM] James: interesting [9/11/2012 4:57:02 PM] Thubanis: Hmm yes on the constitution link? [9/11/2012 4:57:12 PM] Thubanis: I need context to comment [9/11/2012 4:57:21 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: it was from this skype chat... [9/11/2012 4:57:36 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: k i saved it cuz i thought it was interesting and was trying to understand it [9/11/2012 4:57:48 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: "This civilization can only self destruct from now on. Contact from the 'elders and ancient returnees' is the only way out" "The 'cosmic judgements' have been made and will begin to manifest from September 27th" "If this 'contact' does not happen in 2013, I can only see disaster" "We are in a Cocoon, a Cosmic egg Trying to break the shell from the inside The 'dead ones' are outside this shell and have NO WAY to break this shell from the outside Try to understand this. It is a two-way communique" The cosmic spacetime matrix requires an upgrade BEFORE the ET energy can physicalise It is here, but electromagnetic atm "Isaac is more powerful than Katrina METAPHYSICALLY Katrina was more powerful PHYSICALLY This is what people cant understand So physical destruction can be minimized NOT the mental armageddons 2012 is ON, even if no external disasters occur You should FEEL a new 'atmosphere' though from December 22nd I do NOT rule out a magnetic poleshift but even then it might be an oscillation" The core of the earth will oscillate to open a wormhole gate to the 5th spacetime dimension If this results in a MAGNETIC poleshift remains to be seen There will be NO physical pole shift This would break the earth in pieces Atm, the core of the earth is locked up like an egg in a 4D spacetime cocoon This egg is the size of a golfball So work the physics from there There is a 3D physical iron-oxygen core so 2000 km across This core will not flip or change but receive a new energy source at its geometric and gravitational center This new energy source is the purpose of humanities existence [9/11/2012 4:58:00 PM] Thubanis: There are so any interwoven timelines, I will have to check. But if I said this, then yes I can comment [9/11/2012 4:58:46 PM] Thubanis: Let me look at the newearth chart [9/11/2012 4:59:32 PM] James: interesting [9/11/2012 5:01:28 PM] Thubanis: October 11th is a 'cutoff date' so September 27th is 14 days before [9/11/2012 5:01:39 PM] Thubanis: Could be a moon day [9/11/2012 5:01:46 PM] Thubanis: Should be [9/11/2012 5:02:02 PM] Thubanis: New Moon [9/11/2012 5:02:04 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: what dose that mean ? cut off date> [9/11/2012 5:02:20 PM] Thubanis: Its the codes in the scrolls [9/11/2012 5:02:42 PM] Thubanis: There are many of them, because the individual codes can become distributed [9/11/2012 5:03:06 PM] Thubanis: Like 3 weeks or 21 days = 10+1+10 but also 7+7+7 say [9/11/2012 5:03:15 PM] James: hmmm [9/11/2012 5:03:48 PM] Thubanis: Then the crucial time began April 1st as the end of a 7.3-8 year warptime, related to the Venus Transit 2004-2012 and where the codes became redefined but NOT physicalised [9/11/2012 5:04:23 PM] Thubanis: From April 1st this now CAN be physicalised in 'precise measurements' of counting days and nights [9/11/2012 5:04:53 PM] Thubanis: I recall now, that The August to October period is defined in the lunations as one such subcycle [9/11/2012 5:05:22 PM] James: Europe’s weather could be affected long-term - Ramtha: warming happening faster than we are told http://www.rse-newsletter.com/2012/09/europes-weather-could-be-affected-long-term/ [9/11/2012 5:05:23 PM] Thubanis: Blue Moons were August 2nd and 31st as Full Moons with August 17th the New Moon [9/11/2012 5:06:35 PM] Thubanis: So the next New Moon in September is about September 14 and then the next Full Moon is September 27th UCT but I need to check this [9/11/2012 5:07:07 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: ever feel like your out of your mind [9/11/2012 5:07:10 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: lol [9/11/2012 5:07:23 PM] James: perhaps [9/11/2012 5:07:34 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: haha the sensation of all this is alien [9/11/2012 5:08:34 PM] Thubanis: There could be an error: September 30th is the full moon 2012 and September 27th was full moon 2011 [9/11/2012 5:08:59 PM] Thubanis: New Moon September 2012 is September 16th [9/11/2012 5:09:49 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well either way i can feel that its about to be full speed ahead for this shifting and reconfig [9/11/2012 5:10:38 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: so not sure how to be prepared...i just trust that the universe will proved me what i need just when i need it...both things and understanding [9/11/2012 5:11:26 PM] James: this month will be a still mode,then the next 3 months will be,all bet are off,meaning its going to be a real fast rise up till dec 21-22rd [9/11/2012 5:12:10 PM] Thubanis: Good the published calendars are correct, like here: [9/11/2012 5:12:16 PM] Thubanis: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t51...-cosmos-in-dragon-logos-law-and-jurisprudence [9/11/2012 5:13:15 PM] Thubanis: Well because this last week is divided in 3½+3½=7 taking the 3½ days from the New Moon is September 27th [9/11/2012 5:13:34 PM] Thubanis: But I doubt, I would have made such a statement on this [9/11/2012 5:14:24 PM] Thubanis: The birthday of the starhuman or dragon consciousness is December 21st JT and no other date [9/11/2012 5:14:48 PM] Thubanis: December 21-December 23rd as a 'spread' of the Mayan calibration [9/11/2012 5:14:59 PM] Thubanis: Xmas 2012 iow [9/11/2012 5:15:15 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: ok [9/11/2012 5:15:30 PM] Thubanis: And then it will continue to May 1st 2014 [9/11/2012 5:16:07 PM] Thubanis: In the codes of the scrolls, the bible and all native prophecies which have numberlines as parts of the encoding [9/11/2012 5:16:51 PM] Thubanis: The 2014 date is required to MIRROR the events from April 1st 2012 as the end of the warptime [9/11/2012 5:17:11 PM] Thubanis: So April 1st was VERY big cosmically [9/11/2012 5:17:41 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes it felt very powerful from the cosmos [9/11/2012 5:17:52 PM] Thubanis: As is December 21st. This does not mean that there will be starcruisers in the skies or earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanoes all letting loose [9/11/2012 5:18:00 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i recall all the info that was shared at that time it was very intense [9/11/2012 5:18:11 PM] Thubanis: It means that stargates have opened all over the universe [9/11/2012 5:18:31 PM] Thubanis: They are still shut atm [9/11/2012 5:19:09 PM] Thubanis: Only little windows open up for short periods in the true ufo encounters and the true crop circles etc etc [9/11/2012 5:19:50 PM] Thubanis: But when you have lucid dreams or OBEs or NDEs, then you are also accessing those stargates [9/11/2012 5:19:56 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh i see...interesting [9/11/2012 5:20:16 PM] Thubanis: Yes the 'extra space' see allows the 'weirdness' in the dreams [9/11/2012 5:20:47 PM] Thubanis: So you can change forms and locations seemingly at will or instantaneously [9/11/2012 5:20:52 PM] James: true [9/11/2012 5:21:09 PM] James: This message has been removed. [9/11/2012 5:21:32 PM] Thubanis: So now you might become aware that the 'New World' is like a dreamworld when you are awake and not asleep [9/11/2012 5:21:59 PM] Thubanis: This is the 'new energy matrix' in a nutshell [9/11/2012 5:22:12 PM] Thubanis: It is SUPERPOSED to 3D reality now [9/11/2012 5:22:13 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i try to be in a dream world all the time but constaly have people telling me to get a job [9/11/2012 5:22:46 PM] Thubanis: No 3D stuff will 'disappear',but all 3D will have new extension potentials [9/11/2012 5:23:19 PM] Thubanis: As said JT, noone can ESCAPE 3D [9/11/2012 5:23:29 PM] Thubanis: 3D is here to stay for eternity [9/11/2012 5:23:32 PM] James: meaning it will blend into the 4th 5th and 6th and higher correct [9/11/2012 5:23:38 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh well then i might as well cut my hair to [9/11/2012 5:23:38 PM] Thubanis: Yes [9/11/2012 5:23:45 PM] James: thought so [9/11/2012 5:23:55 PM] Thubanis: Integration is the mandala not escape [9/11/2012 5:24:14 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: I am very much looking forward to the immediate future! [9/11/2012 5:24:36 PM] Thubanis: Why Raven's study etc are all worthwhile, but the 'waiting for the messiahs from the sky' is humbug [9/11/2012 5:25:23 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes we are going to be building a ewaste business and get into gold and platunum refining [9/11/2012 5:25:35 PM] James: we are all messiahs [9/11/2012 5:26:10 PM] Thubanis: It will remain a collective effort of the planetary consciousness including all humans and animals plants and crystals BUT will nevertheless require a separation of the genus [9/11/2012 5:26:29 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: the writting on the bin says 999 some kind of magic that Willaim wanted to use [9/11/2012 5:26:37 PM] Thubanis: Bifurcation: Human versus Starhuman [9/11/2012 5:26:45 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: its going to be a showdown [9/11/2012 5:26:55 PM] Thubanis: High Noon in a way yes [9/11/2012 5:26:57 PM] James: big time,,, [9/11/2012 5:27:09 PM] Thubanis: Punctuated Evolutionary Equilibrium [9/11/2012 5:27:26 PM] Thubanis: PEE [9/11/2012 5:27:29 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i hope we can avoid wars and get green lights for et contact [9/11/2012 5:27:41 PM] James: oh we will [9/11/2012 5:27:49 PM] Thubanis: It might be very subtle and selective [9/11/2012 5:28:19 PM] Thubanis: The science is a resonance science [9/11/2012 5:28:21 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well i think a few have heard the message [9/11/2012 5:28:35 PM] James: yes we have,,, [9/11/2012 5:28:41 PM] Thubanis: You can 'eat' the energy (frequencies lol) or not [9/11/2012 5:28:49 PM] James: really [9/11/2012 5:29:12 PM] Thubanis: Only in absorbing the energy can you get out of dissonance [9/11/2012 5:29:19 PM] James: hmmm [9/11/2012 5:29:24 PM] Thubanis: It's physical law not Thuban law [9/11/2012 5:29:30 PM] James: hmmm [9/11/2012 5:29:37 PM] Thubanis: I don't know myself, if I can resonate see? [9/11/2012 5:29:46 PM] James: correct [9/11/2012 5:29:58 PM] Thubanis: But the 'frequency' has been defined and transduced [9/11/2012 5:30:12 PM] Thubanis: If this is sufficient for resonance remains to be seen [9/11/2012 5:30:33 PM] Thubanis: The transduction is Orange Light [9/11/2012 5:30:40 PM] Thubanis: FYI [9/11/2012 5:30:50 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i saw an orange orb once [9/11/2012 5:30:59 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i have told you that b4 [9/11/2012 5:31:19 PM] Thubanis: Well the transformation of the 'sourcesink frequency' is 500 Terahertz [9/11/2012 5:31:21 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i sometimes see blue ones [9/11/2012 5:31:34 PM] Thubanis: 6000 angstroms wavelength [9/11/2012 5:31:36 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: bluish white [9/11/2012 5:31:46 PM] Thubanis: Yes you did [9/11/2012 5:31:48 PM] James: interesting [9/11/2012 5:32:40 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i can hardly wait to travel in a star cruiser [9/11/2012 5:32:56 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: it would be like the ultimate camper trailer [9/11/2012 5:32:58 PM] Thubanis: The magnification factor is 6000 Trillion [9/11/2012 5:33:18 PM] Thubanis: Multiply the Orange Light frequency by that to get the source frequency [9/11/2012 5:33:23 PM] James: 14 DAYS OF GLOBAL CATACLYSM AUGUST 2012 View: http://youtu.be/rDcInLbAoiA [9/11/2012 5:33:32 PM] Thubanis: Which is the Wormhole resonance of the stargates [9/11/2012 5:34:26 PM] Thubanis: The New Agers call this the 'Love and Light' Vibration, without knowing what they are talking about [9/11/2012 5:34:40 PM] Thubanis: You can call it the 'Lovephoton' [9/11/2012 5:34:48 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: and i will [9/11/2012 5:34:52 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: [9/11/2012 5:35:19 PM] Thubanis: You are doing good work in 'sharing' this data with the 'alternatives' [9/11/2012 5:35:37 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: load up the cannons with the love photons! [9/11/2012 5:35:44 PM] Thubanis: Lol [9/11/2012 5:35:59 PM] Thubanis: Actually you are right on the mark [9/11/2012 5:36:32 PM] Thubanis: You recall the stories of the ufos switching of the nuclear weapons electromagnetically? [9/11/2012 5:36:40 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes [9/11/2012 5:36:44 PM] Thubanis: Guess what frequency they use? [9/11/2012 5:36:49 PM] James: et took out all nukes [9/11/2012 5:37:03 PM] Thubanis: Yes and now you know a secret lol [9/11/2012 5:37:12 PM] Thubanis: The CIA might wish to know [9/11/2012 5:37:24 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: 500 Teraherz x 6000 Trillion? [9/11/2012 5:37:32 PM] Thubanis: But they cant use it anyway, as this frequency cant be mechanically generated [9/11/2012 5:37:39 PM] Thubanis: Yes [9/11/2012 5:38:54 PM] Thubanis: It can only be generated by the fabric of the multiD spacetime matrix AS the wormhole from which the entire universe was born [9/11/2012 5:39:08 PM] Thubanis: So this shows you another secret [9/11/2012 5:39:43 PM] Thubanis: Namely, that every dragon-starhuman hybrid will have to have a wormhole at the centre of hisher own bodyform or merkabah [9/11/2012 5:40:02 PM] Thubanis: This MUST be your own free energy generator [9/11/2012 5:40:08 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh wow [9/11/2012 5:40:41 PM] Thubanis: You will literally have a 'new battery' inside of you to communicate with any other such battery in the cosmos with IN RESONANCE [9/11/2012 5:41:36 PM] Thubanis: This then indicates the real hyperphysics to you and just HOW the ufos manouver mechanically as they do, say zigzag flight not possible with chemical fuel engines and so on [9/11/2012 5:42:20 PM] Thubanis: No NABS antigravity devices required, just wormhole 'tuning' [9/11/2012 5:42:57 PM] Thubanis: This is called as Tertiary Energy source [9/11/2012 5:43:13 PM] Thubanis: And this is prerequisite to be a starhuman [9/11/2012 5:43:25 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i did not know that [9/11/2012 5:43:54 PM] Thubanis: Like elctromagnetically you have a primary and secondary transformer coil to 'tap' the electricity grid [9/11/2012 5:44:21 PM] Thubanis: Its cosmophysical law, like gravity [9/11/2012 5:44:28 PM] Thubanis: It is not Thuban exclusive [9/11/2012 5:44:52 PM] Thubanis: But this is the key to the ZPE [9/11/2012 5:45:40 PM] Thubanis: You are to BUILD your own merkabah with a wormhole at the centre AS your New Bodyform [9/11/2012 5:45:49 PM] Thubanis: Noone can GIVE this to anyone [9/11/2012 5:46:08 PM] Thubanis: Everyone either CAN resonate with the present spacetime matrix or not [9/11/2012 5:46:36 PM] Thubanis: This is why I say so often, that very very few will be able to resonate and 'ascend' into the hybrid state [9/11/2012 5:46:47 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes i can see that [9/11/2012 5:47:02 PM] Thubanis: I don't know WHO will be able to resonate, but I can have my guesses [9/11/2012 5:47:20 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: very well said too tho...some deep understandins and some high overstandings too [9/11/2012 5:47:50 PM] Thubanis: What we call Logos here IS the Resonance JT. This is another secret revealed [9/11/2012 5:48:26 PM] Thubanis: Because the Logos IS the wavefunction encompassing all space and time AS the hyperphysical cosmic supermatrix [9/11/2012 5:48:31 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: well im in it to win it so i sure am trying to hold a strong vision in my minds eye about everything that has been discused here [9/11/2012 5:48:53 PM] Thubanis: So the Logos deniers simply 'cannot resonate' and will remain stuck in the old matrix [9/11/2012 5:49:00 PM] Thubanis: Like the roots of a tree [9/11/2012 5:49:04 PM] Thubanis: Underground [9/11/2012 5:49:18 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: on the hamster wheel of doom [9/11/2012 5:49:33 PM] Thubanis: Yes, UNTIL they CAN learn to resonate [9/11/2012 5:49:44 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: oh wow [9/11/2012 5:49:56 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: they are turning into zionists [9/11/2012 5:50:14 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: and its getting crazy [9/11/2012 5:50:33 PM] Thubanis: I don't know JT. There is no judgement, just observation what resonates and what does not [9/11/2012 5:50:56 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes thats true...i spend a lot of time observing the dizzy humans [9/11/2012 5:51:20 PM] Thubanis: Even here on the forums on facebook and the ordinary 3D life [9/11/2012 5:52:07 PM] Thubanis: I must go now JT; good to see you well without a hangover [9/11/2012 5:52:30 PM] Thubanis: Share any of the 'secrets' if you wish, lol [9/11/2012 5:52:44 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: yes i should log off for a bit too...oh well its time to get on top of the game so i must stay sharp [9/11/2012 5:52:55 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: nice to talk to you tony thanks for sharing [9/11/2012 5:53:16 PM] Thubanis: It is a New Book a New Movie and New Script a New World JT [9/11/2012 5:53:43 PM] Thubanis: First in symbol; then in the 'Feel of it' and finally in a reformation of 3D as 4D [9/11/2012 5:54:26 PM] Thubanis: This will take time to manifest, just like a baby grows into a child and an adult [9/11/2012 5:54:42 PM] Thubanis: Its a planetary human becoming a cosmic human JT [9/11/2012 5:55:03 PM] Thubanis: My take is 2004-2012 to 2014 to 2034 [9/11/2012 5:55:30 PM] Thubanis: 21-22 years for adulthood from the end of the warptime [9/11/2012 5:55:58 PM] Thubanis: We should be around, if we qualify in Logos resonance [9/11/2012 5:56:34 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: i suspect we got front row seats [9/11/2012 5:56:56 PM] Thubanis: Lets hope your suspicion is on the mark as an occuli tauri [9/11/2012 5:57:12 PM] Thubanis: 'Bulls eye' iow [9/11/2012 5:57:19 PM] Thubanis: Like darts [9/11/2012 5:57:27 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: laser guided love photons! [9/11/2012 5:57:33 PM] James: wow very interesting read [9/11/2012 5:57:49 PM] Thubanis: Logos guided interdimensional ballistic missiles [9/11/2012 5:58:07 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: if you wernt cracked up before you might be now [9/11/2012 5:58:24 PM] Michael Toldnes - JT!: [9/11/2012 5:58:35 PM] James: [9/11/2012 5:58:46 PM] Thubanis: Ciao Dragon beaus and bees ... [12:23:10 PM-Thursday, September 13th, 2012 (+10UCT] THE13THBRIDGE: how many other times; do you think jesus came to earth [12:23:15 PM] Thubanis: Once [12:23:25 PM] Michael: nah he was elias [12:23:30 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: only once ? [12:23:31 PM] Thubanis: As a person [12:23:38 PM] Thubanis: The office is ubiquitous [12:23:45 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: no doubt; the catholic church stole his identity [12:23:53 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: made up a lot of lies [12:24:07 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: jesus wasn't god [12:24:09 PM] Michael: john the baptist was elijah [12:24:15 PM] Thubanis: Many many Logos witnesses, as it is an office: Kukulkan had this office too, but no 'person' ever embodied it like JC [12:24:25 PM] Thubanis: True Michael [12:24:38 PM] Michael: and issa was elias [12:24:46 PM] THE13THBRIDGE: sandalphon [12:24:51 PM] Thubanis: But reincarnation does not have to be as linear as the hindus make it out to be [12:25:18 PM] Michael: i dont think so either [12:25:20 PM] Thubanis: Whatever Issa you address; it is not the Logos Raven and I address [12:25:40 PM] Thubanis: And I am NOT going to argue philosophy today [12:25:58 PM] Michael: I dont think reincarnation has to be linear in time [12:26:02 PM] Michael: to clarify [12:26:09 PM] Thubanis: It is holofractal [12:26:40 PM] Thubanis: The easy way to discern this , Raven listen, is to consider simple fractals like a Mandelbrot set [12:26:55 PM] Thubanis: The true one and only Logos IS the fractal geometry [12:27:10 PM] Thubanis: Then this is reproduced on multitudinous levels and scales [12:27:32 PM] Thubanis: Ergo you cannot resonate with the true Logos, unless you have the same template geometry [12:27:45 PM] Thubanis: It is like jigsaw pieces not fitting [12:28:33 PM] Ishtara Raven: yeah i love the fractal zooms [12:29:07 PM] Ishtara Raven: you can see how the one starting image becomes many different forms through the fractals [12:29:22 PM] Thubanis: WHY the NABS of 'everyone has their own timeline' and world is a mental trap [12:30:05 PM] Thubanis: Yes they CAN have this; BUT only after they have 'eaten' the fractal basetemplate and this one is unique and NOT arbitrary. It is the Cosmic Logostwin as a SEEDLING Uni-verse or Monosong as the JCCJ Twin. For JT! Raven DragonHeart: 'Be Afraid, be very afraid!'