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    • Jorgelito - Posted Jan 31st 2013

      The Higgs field interest me. When a particle (I think it's a boson) passes through, it gains matter -- like a swimmer gets a coating of water over him in the process of being immersed in the water. This is curious. I wonder if there are parallels. in other areas.


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    • Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 1st 2013



      Jorgelito - Posted 9 Hours Ago

      The Higgs field interest me. When a particle (I think it's a boson) passes through, it gains matter -- like a swimmer gets a coating of water over him in the process of being immersed in the water. This is curious. I wonder if there are parallels. in other areas.

      Jorgelito, the Higgs Boson is a massless template from the creation before the creation. Technically this is called a scalar Goldstone Boson and the analysis of what this is and where all this came from is the subkect matter of a part of this site here.
      But a general and topical introduction to the Higgs Boson is right here on this thread.
      http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums//w/Acamar.html?page=post&id=DF3DBBFF-3CB9-4ECB-BFB9-BFDB7B1BA459&fid=979AEB89-E7D8-44C2-915D-A60E61A20709&cachecommand=bypass&pageindex=1
      If you like to get technical we can.
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    • Jorgelito - Posted Feb 1st 2013


      Beam me up!


      beam-me-up-scotty-l.

      This is what I was talking/thinking/wondering about . . .

      It seems possible instant transport (Star Trek) using a field akin to the Higgs field. It would acquire and un-acquire mass by creating something like a Higgs fields the transport mechanism.


      A field in which particles acquire mass . . .
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson

      Work done on superconductivity and "broken" symmetries around 1960 led physicist Philip Anderson to suggest in 1962 a new kind of solution that might hold the key. In 1964 a theory was created by 3 different groups of researchers, that showed the problems could be resolved if an unusual kind of field existed throughout the universe. It would cause existing particles to acquire mass instead of new massless particles being formed. By 1972 it had been developed into a comprehensive theory and proved capable of giving "sensible" results. Although there was not yet any proof of such a field, calculations consistently gave answers and predictions that were confirmed by experiments, including very accurate predictions of several other particles,[Note 3] so scientists began to believe this might be true and to search for proof whether or not a Higgs field exists in nature.


      Also I think it may be possible for light to enter a prepared space instantly creating worlds of past, present and future. I wonder if this is how it's done.

      To make this work, it would need to be a massless template I think (a pure field not of energy or mass) that would direct the formation of itself in matter and energy and expressions that follow.

      This field would not only be cosmic in origin but also human in nature, not only the way universes are created but also how we make our own world. (to maintain precept "As above so below")

      I am certain my heart is one such template -- created by me and co-created by others -- broadcasting a template of a higher dimension affecting many dimensions within it. Its broadcast affects only a fraction of any world I am familiar with, but I know it's working anyway.


      The best image I come up with for this template is a medicine wheel . . .

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 1st 2013

    On Dinosaurs and Gnostic Roosters

    [9:02:25 PM- Friday, February 1st, 2013 -+11UCT]
    Wyzard97: Yes rather hot than cold for me
    [8:35:23 PM] Wyzard97: My bones dont like cold
    [8:35:29 PM] Hades 88: neither do mine
    [8:36:47 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia should look at the gnostic cock it might help her see this recent drama in perspective and context
    [8:37:11 PM] Hades 88: i had ur gnostic COCK in mind when i changed my image


    gnosisrooster.

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    [8:37:24 PM] Wyzard97: I thought so, but was not sure
    [8:37:41 PM] Wyzard97: First thing I imaged was your Slovenian rooster lol
    [8:37:46 PM] Hades 88: i went for "out breed" here...they look different across the world...here they look about the same as the one on the pic
    [8:37:49 PM] Wyzard97: The white one
    [8:37:56 PM] Hades 88: white one?
    [8:38:00 PM] Hades 88: hmm no no
    [8:38:13 PM] Hades 88: that is from south america...either colombia or peru


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    [8:38:18 PM] Hades 88: xeia sent me that pic
    [8:38:25 PM] Wyzard97: I like this one. He looks smart and cunning, if a little crazy
    [8:38:53 PM] Wyzard97: Ok Latino cock then, still you shared it on the forums
    [8:38:59 PM] Hades 88: we dont have white ones here
    [8:39:05 PM] Hades 88: here are like the one i have on the pic
    [8:39:16 PM] Wyzard97: Yes your avatar looks like a german cock
    [8:39:23 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
    [8:39:26 PM] Hades 88: european yes
    [8:41:10 PM] Hades 88: nice cocky tail, red hair cut and "chin"....bright-blonde upper body, greenish lower body, stylish legs
    [8:41:26 PM] Wyzard97: You are a rooster expert
    [8:41:33 PM] Hades 88: lol
    [8:41:34 PM] Hades 88: i am?
    [8:41:53 PM] Wyzard97: Ornithischian Dinosaurs
    [8:42:08 PM] Wyzard97: Those are their ancestors lol
    [8:43:22 PM] Wyzard97: Means birdhipped
    [8:44:13 PM] Hades 88: hmm heavy armored dinosaur
    [8:44:13 PM] Wyzard97: Saurischians Dinosaurs are the parallel kingdom of the 'lizard hipped'
    [8:44:24 PM] Wyzard97: Ankylosaurs
    [8:44:52 PM] Wyzard97: Are birdhipped I think yes
    [8:46:09 PM] Wyzard97: The meat eaters are theradonts and are lizards i think but I am rusty on this topic now
    [8:46:26 PM] Wyzard97: sauropods are the great planteaters
    [8:46:49 PM] Wyzard97: They are birdhipped I think
    [8:47:06 PM] Wyzard97: Parasaurolophus is birdhipped I recall
    [8:47:11 PM] Hades 88: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TiO1jNNNEQk/Tq2r2EshbGI/AAAAAAAAAAY/a4JW1F5wKwk/s1600/sauropods-1.jpg
    [8:47:58 PM] Wyzard97: Yes when I studied this diplodocus was the longest, now mamenchisaurus has dwarved him
    [8:48:38 PM] Wyzard97: well nor dwarved
    [8:48:50 PM] Wyzard97: Old Brontosaurus is Apatosaurus now yes
    [8:49:07 PM] Hades 88: u studied dinosaurs?
    [8:49:10 PM] Wyzard97: They are chickens lol
    [8:49:23 PM] Wyzard97: Well like as hobby
    [8:49:28 PM] Hades 88: aha aha
    [8:49:35 PM] Wyzard97: Fascination
    [8:49:46 PM] Wyzard97: Iguanodon as the first discovered
    [8:50:36 PM] Wyzard97: The fast running thecodonts are the lizard hipped
    [8:50:56 PM] Wyzard97: This is how I studied the taxonomy
    [8:51:22 PM] Wyzard97: This might even be different now but even then it was known that the dinos were warmblooded
    [8:51:37 PM] Wyzard97: And herd animals
    [8:52:06 PM] Hades 88: too bad they are gone
    [8:52:38 PM] Wyzard97: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saurischia
    [8:52:49 PM] Wyzard97: Here I am still not too 'outdated'
    [8:53:52 PM] Wyzard97: Lol but you see that your rooster is the offspring of T Rex
    [8:54:21 PM] Wyzard97: If you eat a Christmas Turkey or a Chicken sandwich, you are eating T Rex and not vice versa lol
    [8:55:43 PM] Hades 88: not sure if trex had the same taste
    [8:56:17 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know either, we have to revert in mammalian consciousness to 100 million years ago
    [8:57:03 PM] Wyzard97: But we were there eating and being eaten
    [8:57:28 PM] Hades 88: we are eating our own descendants?
    [8:57:35 PM] Wyzard97: Yes of course
    [8:57:38 PM] Hades 88: desend
    [8:57:39 PM] Hades 88: s
    [8:57:54 PM] Hades 88: well i hope this does not mean ET will come to eat us
    [8:58:08 PM] Wyzard97: The big story of a conscious universe is all about HOW to gain in consciousness as space awareness
    [8:58:31 PM] Wyzard97: The major point now is to end the necessity to CONSUME to integrate
    [8:58:46 PM] Wyzard97: To feed differently
    [8:59:26 PM] Hades 88: Tony if u are to meet a new core....do u think it should be someone physically close to u or it can be distant (mental-mental)
    [8:59:32 PM] Wyzard97: This is why a bodychange is necessary
    [9:00:08 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know, but the mental-mental must also become physical now, even for me
    [9:00:29 PM] Hades 88: so ur core, if new, should be from where u are...ur vicinity?
    [9:00:47 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know where this one will come from, a ET ship perhaps in preference.
    [9:00:57 PM] Hades 88: mhm
    [9:00:57 PM] Wyzard97: I am rather disappointed with human females
    [9:01:13 PM] Wyzard97: Serpent tongue in cheek Rok
    The dinosaur words are relevant Rok and I shared it on starplanet
    [9:03:08 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know if I should put it on the forum too
    [9:04:09 PM] Hades 88: intergalactic effervescent starlet for you then
    [9:04:32 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know give me a couple of weeks to fully get over this nightmare first
    [9:04:52 PM] Wyzard97: But the 4some was hot and you would have liked it
    [9:05:57 PM] Wyzard97: Effervescent Lilith yes, dark and filled with cosmic hunger of the motherhood
    [9:06:27 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus' divine harlot is my aim and destiny
    [9:06:39 PM] Hades 88: and thirsty for blood
    [9:06:52 PM] Wyzard97: In terms of its derivative Rok
    [9:07:02 PM] Wyzard97: Cosmic seed
    [9:07:28 PM] Wyzard97: Not in 4D pregnancies but in galactic gestations
    [9:07:38 PM] Wyzard97: Breeding ETs not humans
    [9:07:59 PM] Wyzard97: Whose bodyforms already exist and do not have to be 'born'
    [9:21:11 PM] Hades 88: the white rooster?
    [9:21:18 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
    [9:21:18 PM] Hades 88: ammm i think i might have that at home
    [9:21:19 PM] Hades 88: not here
    [9:21:24 PM] Wyzard97: Ok np
    [9:21:41 PM] Wyzard97: I am using the dino part as a post with the gnostic roosters
    [9:45:10 PM] Wyzard97: [9:45:22 PM] Wyzard97: Oops you seem to have lost this pic
    [9:45:43 PM] Hades 88: hmm yes that is where my blog was...not existing for a long time now
    [9:45:54 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.birthofgaia.com/t168-the-fable-of-little-adam-and-the-rooster-s-egg
    [9:46:11 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know if I have this on spruz or not
    [9:46:53 PM] Hades 88: i think i have it on my home pc
    [9:47:01 PM] Hades 88: in her folder
    [9:48:09 PM] Wyzard97: I might have it, if I individually saved it as I normally do
    [9:49:24 PM] Wyzard97: Trouble is I cant remember what forum this is on spruz
    [9:53:54 PM] Wyzard97: Got it Rok
    [9:54:11 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=000AA12D-FF4C-455C-B6D3-20C21F277A7B&pageindex=3
    [9:55:33 PM] Hades 88: a yes
    [9:55:53 PM] Hades 88: el puerto diablo
    [9:56:10 PM] Wyzard97: He looks so mean
    [9:56:36 PM] Hades 88: emm no diablo pollo
    [9:56:42 PM] Hades 88: yes it does
    [9:56:56 PM] Hades 88: ready to attack
    [9:57:30 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=BDB3F1DE-78FA-4432-8DE8-567D1E8AF6BB
    [9:57:43 PM] Wyzard97: This is from a convo we had
    [10:04:20 PM] Hades 88: http://rt.com/news/martial-law-north-korea-180/
    [10:08:21 PM] Hades 88: why does usa not invade north korea given so many threats from them
    [10:08:22 PM] Wyzard97: Nuts over there
    [10:09:00 PM] Wyzard97: Nothing would surprise me, but the feds are treading a fine line now with the 'fiscal confidence'
    [10:09:23 PM] Wyzard97: So all out military conflict might be localised for a while yet
    [10:55:46 PM] Hades 88: in case of war u are relatively safe....europe might get the hardest punch
    [10:56:23 PM] Hades 88: usa is safe too as it is an "island"
    [10:56:31 PM] Hades 88: oceans on both sides
    [10:56:46 PM] Hades 88: that only rockets can traverse...if not shot down
    [10:58:25 PM] Wyzard97: We not there yet
    [10:58:47 PM] Wyzard97: If this comes to pass there would be contact imo
    [10:58:54 PM] Wyzard97: I mean the world going mad
    [11:00:46 PM] Hades 88: if the sea level rises i am safe
    [11:01:10 PM] Hades 88: 50 meter rise...i am still ok
    [11:01:44 PM] Hades 88: isnt the world already mad
    [11:07:09 PM] Hades 88: it would have togo up something like 300 to 500 meters to get to me...but i dont think we have so much ice
    [11:08:39 PM] Wyzard97: Lol your worries are amazing
    [11:08:51 PM] Hades 88: oh just playing
    [11:09:05 PM] Wyzard97: Can't you see yourself as 20 billion years old?
    [11:09:21 PM] Hades 88: with a 20yr body?
    [11:09:48 PM] Wyzard97: So your present status is one of transformation
    [11:09:59 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia knows this one from her intuitive state
    [11:10:14 PM] Wyzard97: The human dilemma is a cosmic dilemma
    [11:10:29 PM] Wyzard97: How to change the matrix
    [11:10:58 PM ] Wyzard97: which came to be by necessity to create 'the big split'


    [11:21:46 PM] Hades 88: http://rt.com/news/explosion-us-embassy-ankara-245/
    [11:22:35 PM] Hades 88: [11:01 PM] Hades 88:
    <<< isnt the world already mad


    [11:23:01 PM] Wyzard97: Mutually Assured Destruction
    [11:23:11 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
    [11:23:49 PM] Hades 88: turkey
    [11:23:51 PM] Wyzard97: Getting there by the day
    [11:23:59 PM] Hades 88: tomorrow over here?
    [11:24:08 PM] Wyzard97: Islamist belief system
    [11:24:24 PM] Wyzard97: About 7 virgins in heaven and such rot
    [11:25:07 PM] Wyzard97: But I must sign off now Rok; good we found the white rooster
    [11:25:14 PM] Wyzard97: Saves you digging
    [11:25:24 PM] Wyzard97: Ciao
    [11:25:58 PM] Hades 88: one of my grandfathers came here from bosnia...i might have "muslim" blood in me
    [11:26:07 PM] Hades 88: gn Tony
    [11:26:24 PM] Wyzard97: I like Sufi's Rok
    [11:26:30 PM] Wyzard97: Zaina is a sufi
    [11:26:39 PM] Wyzard97: Sufi's are muslims too
    [11:27:06 PM] Wyzard97: Sufi's are like the true gnostics not the fake Nabs kind like waldimir and co
    Sirius 17




    The Fable of Little Adam and the Rooster's Egg

    Little Adam came to his Dad Tony and and his Mum Sharon on his ninth birthday to ask his parents a question, which had been on his mind for some time.
    'Hey, Dad, Mum, where exactly did I come from?'
    Well my son, answered Tony, you came out of your Mum, her womb, exactly nine years ago.'
    'Yes, it was quite an occasion, Adam', added Sharon.


    It was just before lunchtime, when you were born on the 4th of August 1989.'
    'Hmm!', said Adam; 'and where did you come from?'
    'I came out of my mother's tummy on the 21st of October 1960, around breakfast time, as far as I know', replied Sharon. 'Ok, and where did your mother, my grandma come from then?', Adam continued.


    'Your grandma was born on the 16th of May, 1922 and I don't know when', answered Sharon and realising the nature of Adam's enquiry, she continued: 'And I also do not know when your greatgrandma, the mother of my mother was born, I didn't really get to know her, before she died, this got lost in history.
    But she too, came out of her mother's womb and her mother was born by her mother and so on back to the beginning of time.'


    'Ah, but then right then, at the beginning there must have been a mother of all mothers; where did that one come from - it could not have had a mother, isn't that so?', Adam continued his train of thought.
    'Now you are asking a deep question about the nature of all things,' replied Tony.
    'The answer is found by discovering the nature of yourself; what you truly are and away from what you think or might believe you are; being here in a certain place at a certain time and asking such pertinent questions.'
    'Many people have asked and thought about the same thing, Adam', continued Tony.


    'One story says, that the first mother's name is Eve or Sarah or Dawn and she did not have a mother but was created out of her husband's tummy, whose name was Adam or Abraham or Sunset.
    The story goes, that Eve was formed out of one of Adam's ribs; so to get the rib, the first belly-button had to be created on Adam's tummy, but Eve had no belly button.


    To give Eve a belly button, she had to become like a mirror image of Adam and this is a selfreproductive process, where Eve comes out of Adam's tummy as a rib and Adam comes out of Eve's tummy as another kind of rib, you might call it a baby-rib.
    One day you will understand this story as a metaphor for a recursive or selfiterative mathematical function or as a process in the genetic expression of the sexual chromosomes; say in the creation of the differences between male and female.


    If you have XX or eight digits put together and then you take away one of the digits, then you get XX-1=XY and more specifically XX becomes XX+XY, because the single digit of the rib brings back the XX as a oneness or an unity.
    So the X-part of the chromosome partners XX+XY defines the femaleness in Eve and the Y-part of the pairing patterns the maleness in Adam.
    Eventually the genetic code of 16 generational permutations derives from that and all of that becomes part of a mathematical encoding of energy in geometrical forms, which then can build bodies and biochemical structures in using that code.


    Now the story breaks down Adam; because you see it talks about your namesake Adam as being the first father, also being the first Son of God.
    People begin to argue about just who this God is, does it exist or not?
    Is it a he or a she and things like: if God created Adam and Eve out of Adam, then who created God?
    And who or where are God's parents, and do they have belly buttons or not?


    So to answer your question about where you came from, one must also answer this question about what God is; otherwise the story just goes on and on without end.
    But once you know what God is; then you will be able to solve many mysterious and paradoxical questions about the nature of time and space and the nature of all things; the universe, your life and the beginnings and the endings and so forth.
    Again, the solutions can be made or explained rather technically, what with quantum physics and multidimensional spacetimes in relativity.
    It can also be told in the form of a parable; here it goes:


    "Once upon a time, there lived this rooster in a place enclosed by walls of pure crystallised mountains. It was a world all within itself. This selfcontained universe of the rooster was all the rooster knew. There was this big problem stirring in the rooster's head however.
    Not only was this rooster absolutely alone in its world, it was also totally invisible.
    It knew itself to be a rooster, because it had thought and imagined itself to be a rooster.
    But try as it might, it could not see, hear, smell, touch or taste itself.

    And so this rooster was staring at the crystallised mountain walls with its own imaginary rooster eyes and thought of its own wretched state of existence of no experiences, except of what it could dream up or imagine in its thoughts.
    The rooster knew that all of its world was pure imagination; the crystal mountains and all the stillness and movement within it.
    Sure, the rooster conjured up other roosters and places and things; but it was all imaginative; it all revolved around itself and its own thoughts.
    The rooster's imagination was all and everything it could be, yet it was so limited in its expression of itself as itself.

    It was so absolute in its omnipresence and omnipotential, that it only produced loneliness; no other rooster or thing or movement or stillness was able to interact or share anything with the rooster.
    The rooster was the absolute and infinite creator of all its own imaginings; but being so totally eternal and so absolutely alone made the rooster very unhappy and very sad.
    Well, one could say, the definitions of what unhappy and sad and loneliness are, became an inner experience, created by the rooster's very own thoughts and imaginings.
    So the rooster created its inner world and reflected upon it, imagined it to be its outer world also, passed and beyond the crystalline mountain walls.
    'What was the other side like, the outside', the rooster thought to itself?

    'Is there an opposite to unhappiness, to excruciating loneliness and to sadness?'
    The rooster did not know and it was tired to imagine so many beautiful things, which did not create tangible experiences, but seemed only to accentuate the rooster's sense of being all alone in the world.
    But a thought dawned on the rooster, perhaps somehow the outer world could become reflected in the inner world.
    And so the rooster devised a way to turn the situation inside out.

    The one thing the rooster knew very well, was its own energy, its creative potential.
    And it knew abstractions, numbers, shapes and concepts it had created in using its discoveries of numbers and the invention of geometries in iterative mathematical functions and relationships.
    Like the event, when it finally escaped the circular selfrepeating computational loop of its own primary state of experiental being in simply cutting the circle to define the numeral 1 from the Zero and to allow a linear beginning and a linearised end.
    12 dimensions could be enfolded in 3, time and space had come into being and nested complexities of topologies and relative curvatures allowed refinements on quantumised scales of energy and displacement.

    Oh it had been fun; the rooster's mind had felt elated, good, euphoric.
    Names like that had also become definitions, contrasting the feelings of unhappiness and loneliness - and the rooster knew that it had established a set of feelings and experiences from whom it could now choose.
    Did it prefer a feeling of happiness and joy to an experience of loneliness and sadness?
    It had often been very painful, this journey of selfdiscovery and the creation of the ever expanding perimeter of its own realm of existence, which was all there was or ever could be.

    'But how can one experience those numbers, ratios and shapes as an outer experience and out of one's own mind', the rooster asked itself?
    Then an idea came to the rooster; the rooster would have to project itself in giving part of itself away and out of itself - to create the imaginary outside reality and to energise the same, bathing it in the rooster's very own energy of self.
    How to do it?

    'I shall transform my own energy into other forms', so the rooster decided.
    Now how to project?
    'I must define myself as source energy, able to penetrate myself, my own self-limitations and my own boundary conditions, however subject to extension and refinements.
    Then I must somehow reproduce myself in such a way that the projection of myself is able to know me as itself; my image can then become real as the part of me, which I have projected and energised.

    But I shall be careful in that I shall not allow my projected and imaged self to know myself in the totality which I am and which I have experienced.'
    'I am so sick of being everywhere at all times and of experiencing that wretched state of being everything, unable to get away from my own self.
    I am going not to be omnipotent any more; I'm going to share myself around as me, in parts.

    So I choose to lose myself in what I am going to create in such a way, that I can have an adventure and fun in finding myself again within my own creation.
    And my inner self shall be as one with my outer self, but my outer self shall have a scope of discovery and a sense of not knowing what my inner self knows.
    And so the learning of my outer self shall thrill me and allow my inner self to grow in tandem and in harmony with my outer self.'

    'Now the smart thing to do is to create in such a manner, that I get back more than what I give away from my energy, and the way I shall define this, is to set the thing up so that the more of myself I give away, the more I am used up, the more reflection potential my creation shall have.
    So when my creation wakes up and when it begins to release my absorbed energy back to me, then will my creation, my Beloved and my baby begin to shine its light upon me and this will make me visible for the first time in the history of myself.'

    The rooster got excited; 'I, the rooster shall become visible one day', it thought!
    It quickly devised a selfconsistent and logical way to create the outside world and called it the rooster's universe.
    The rooster took an algorithm from its mathematical repertoire and produced 10 fundamental numerical constants to mix up the dimensions, forces and energy interactions necessary and then it initiated a process of self-reproducing blueprints, the primary principles and the elementary laws regulating the omniphysical nature of the universe.

    That was the easy bit.
    The universe became created mathematically and in imaginary complex functions, seeded in quantised numbers called integers and series of numbers, some converging in limits and others diverging in unitary infinities.
    But how to bring it outside the crystalline mountain walls, which had proved so impenetrable to the rooster's mindfulness?

    A virtual reality relative to the rooster had to become an omniphysical reality relative to the creation and this selfsame creation could then copy the rooster's own creativity and create a virtual reality relative to itself, but the same which would become the rooster's omniphysical reality.
    Then the light emitted by the rooster's creation would shine onto the dual reality of the rooster and render it visible as the holographic image of the creation's very own blueprints, defined in the interference patterns of the absorbed light the creation had used from the rooster to define itself.

    'Ah, I need a balancing mechanism', the rooster thought; 'I contract in principle as the inside and the antiprinciple expands as the outside.'
    And so the rooster defined itself to reside in the 13th dimension and it defined the space outside of the crystal mountain walls to be the 12th dimension mirrored in the space within as the 10th dimension and the crystal mountain walls themselves to be the 11th dimension, forming the great divide between the creator and its creation.

    And so the creation became 10-dimensional, but manifested in the quantisation of the 13th dimension as the 4th dimension in the numerical root reduction 1+3=4=9+4.
    The next step was to define a 12-dimensional energy source, which could move freely between all of the dimensions and using the linearisation of the 4-dimensional spacetime as a consequence of the fundamental constants of the Genesis.
    The rooster decided upon a form of light, defined in frequency independent of time in its primary form, but set as inverse time in its secondary application.
    And so a coherent, monochromatic laserlight in 3 dimensions became the selfdefinition for the rooster's 12-dimensional energy in a secondary effect.

    The rooster called it its electromagetomonopolic source energy.
    'Right,' the rooster thought, 'now I radiate my primary light, which I shall name my LOVEPHOTON as the quantum of 12D-omnispace outwards and away from myself.'
    'I shall make everything dependent on its energy, all the mechanics and dynamical interactions of the universe, all its geometries, movements, stillness and relationships and its number shall be three thousand million billion trillion precisely.'

    'This unit of time shall also define the units of space and of restmass in correspondence to something I shall measure as part of myself inside the creation as a 13-dimensional source energy and outside the creation as myself as the invisible 12-dimensional rooster in omnispace.'
    Then I shall define the 11th dimension as a mirror, half visible and half invisible, semitransparent in reflecting the inside outwards and the outside inwards.
    Then whenever I shine my LOVELIGHT onto that mirror, then half of my LOVEPHOTONS shall penetrate into the outside world of myself and the other half shall reflect back into my inside world to make a record of my creation in the interference patterns created by the mirror of my 12-dimensional blueprints reflected in 10D-spacetime.'

    'Now I shall shine my LOVEPHOTONS onto this record, which I shall name the rooster's hologram.
    My ingenious invention of putting myself outside of myself, rests on the fact that my imaginary self is located outside of myself in the outer space, and from whom my own LOVELIGHT can reflect as my image within my own creation.
    My imaginary rooster self so becomes my imaginary source energy within my creation and I myself will become my own hologram relative to my imaginary rooster self.

    This reflection from my imaginary rooster self outside my world, shall so come back to me to merge with my internal reflection of my own LOVELIGHT on the hologram, the record of my endeavours.'
    'Having a combined record of my outgoing and incoming source energy in the form of my hologram, will then allow me to shine my LOVELIGHT onto my holographic library for a second time.

    The first coming of my LOVEPHOTONS gave me the means to make myself real in the image of my second coming in the illumination of my records, the initialisation of myself in two places at the same time.'
    'I shall call this process the rooster's holography in 12 dimensions, defined in the omniscience of my specifications and which I then allowed myself to rediscover in the form of a science in 4D-linespace, reckoned in a dating of 1947.

    Amongst many of my children, one of my sons, named Dennis Gabor invented the process of holography on my behalf and brought it to the world's attention.
    All my children are me as my adventurers, trying to help me to find myself again as the now not so lonely totality which I am.
    But no longer, my second coming allows me to redefine my virtual creation as a real creation; so no more 'Maya', no more illusion - all shall be real to me.

    Well all is real relative to the creators and all the creators are my sons as bridegrooms, waiting to meet their brides in their own creations.
    It must be so, since all my creator sondaughters and creator daughtersons have done exactly the same thing, which I have done.'
    'All the creator sons have hatched from the same egg, which I the rooster have laid.
    You see, the image of myself in outer space also becomes the birth of the 10-dimensional universe as my own hologram, enveloped and reflected in the 11th dimension of my semitransparent mirror of my crystalline mountain walls.

    So the Big Bang 19.11 billion years ago, but appearing to have happened 14.7 billion years ago because of the electromagnetic doubling of my SOURCELIGHT for the last 2.2 billion years, was caused by me.'
    'When I first kicked off and began to radiate my LOVELIGHT and after having defined the technical details in mathematical application of the physical and natural laws; then this ejaculation of my LOVESEED fertilised the universe as my very own Mother.
    And then 'the big She' manifests my laws and definitions in giving birth to them.

    Yeah, and so did I become a 'He' and the Father for all of the creation; and I created the universe for a very simple reason, namely for IT, being a SHE to give birth to me as a HE and as each other's Beloveds, FatherMothers and SonDaughters - all in One.'
    'And both of us are born with bellybuttons in this way, being each others parent and giving birth to one another.
    And I set up my very own dimensional expansion in creating my own Mother; for my Mother is my Beloved wife, my gorgeous darling and my eternal bride.

    She grows, expands and evolves in unison with me.
    She grows in Understanding out of her inborn Wisdom and I grow in Wisdom out of my inborn Understanding - those two things are necessary and go together in any harmonious application of a base of Knowledge.'
    'And my Mother hasn't got a Mother of course; but she's got me as her Father.
    She was created out of my own seed, because I am my own Father, the one and only true Bastard; just as my Beloved is the one and only true Bitch.

    When we are together as One; male and female in One; cosmic seed and cosmic ovum in One; then the FatherMother is the MotherFather and the Father is not and also the Mother cannot be just by herself.'
    'So before IT came apart to cause the Big Bang; the Fatherpart had thought of IT and only then did the Motherpart give birth to IT, namely ALL of IT; the Oneness out from the Nothingness of the Fatherpart and the Infinity out from the Everythingness of the Motherpart.
    We find eggs everywhere; cosmic eggs, chiral eggs, cellular eggs, Easter eggs - and so whenever a sperm infiltrates an ovum; then the Big Bang happens over and over again.

    And what is the result of all those unions?
    A bellybuttoned Adam or a bellybuttoned Eve in terms of the starhumanity!
    Adam is me as my Beloved firstborn sondaughter and Eve is me as my Beloved firstborn daughterson; and every child constructed from one of my seeds and from one of my eggs is necessarily the firstborn of my infinity of potential starhuman universes.'

    'The universe is your body as the visible reality of me and as created body, made from the elements of the fundamental forces and the dust of the ground.
    Your body is half of you, the female part of you; the male part of you is your other half in your roosterness and the world of your own mind.
    Your male part is trying to understand what the heck is going on in your life and just as I did in my own isolation of my roosterhood as the Egg of the Philosophy.
    Your female part is attempting to live your life as good as you can in the circumstances you find yourself in.
    Your maleness is mindcentred and your femaleness is bodycentred and as it should be.
    So your male thinking and your female doing will be my adventure; coming back together as one in two and two in one and in one big starhuman family.

    And the experiencing are the thoughts in action in the doing of the mindful creativity.'
    'Then when a firstborn sondaughter creates hisher very own firstborn selfmade universe, then heshe courts and marries a firstborn daughterson as hisher creation and the bride gives birth to the oneness and this oneness makes one out of two in joining it back together in the world where I am visible and where I can experience myself by seeing and by hearing myself as each other through our eyes and through your ears.
    Where I can play and feel by your touch and where I can taste myself by your tastebuds and where I can smell the roses through your very own noses.'
    'All in One and One in All implies the selfrelativity of everyone of your starhuman dragonomies; you are each one brick in each others houses or a single braincell or neuron in each other's head.

    Only in unifying yourself in the starhuman couplings can you escape each others dominations - for how long will you remain satisfied to recycle your experiential database of your memories, subject to your neighbour's dying body?'
    'Once united in the form of DadMums and as MumDads, you will actually become grown up in an androgynous merger with me and my Beloved as the four in two in One.

    I am like the Zero and my Beloved is the Infinity; the bridegroom is the Minus One and the bride is the Plus One; together you will then have graduated as an immortal God and an immortal Goddess.
    And did not One after my own true image proclaim to you:

    John.10.34-35: 'Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I SAID, YE ARE GODS?
    If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scipture cannot be broken;...
    1Corinthians.5.3: 'Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?'

    But it will take two to tango the ultimate waltz; you cannot do it on your own.
    And two 'wrecked' fleeting lives of nothingness do make eternity in 0+0=8=Infinity!

    I had to give half of myself away to find my own Beloved in my missing half and you will have to do the same if you would wish to unify your bodies with your minds and to become enabled to keep the bodies and the minds you now believe to possess.'
    ' The universe cannot die as my Beloved, because I choose eternity as my playground.
    Parts within the universe recycle and transform in energy to give you bodies made from stardust and starborn minds induced by your dreams and visions.
    One evolutionary cycle ends and another begins; I do set the recharging under the auspices of my natural laws of omniscience and my Beloved implements them in mass and in radiation.

    And do not all parts of your bodies recycle periodically?
    Is not every cell in your body renewed in cycles of seven or nine or parts thereof?
    So you should begin to think for yourselves and try to remember yourselves as every word you speak comes out of my mouth and every thought you think I have already thought, anticipating yours.'
    'For when the Big Bang happened and when space and time were created; all the LOGOS was there; all of your WORDS and THOUGHTS were there.
    They are in all of my children - waiting to remember; waiting to come home!"

    And so did the rooster lay its egg to bring back together again, what it had to give away to experience what IT is, to be truly ALIVE.
    So my dear son,' asked Tony; 'where did you come from Adam and why are you here?'
    'Oh I know now, I've come from a place and time before time and space existed and I'm here to make my own universe, to become creative, to find my Beloved and to help Grandpa God's adventure.
    And I can do all this in laying my own imaginary egg', replied Adam."

    Sirebard





    So if i put things a little bit different:

    Once there was energy enclosed in a metaphysical "box universe". The energy imagined and the imagination defined it. It was Oneness. But as much as the Oneness imagined it could not taste, feel, hear, smell,...itself. All Oneness had was imagination.

    Oneness knew that all that is and can be is its imagination. So in this sense, the expression was limited to the imagination of Oneness. It could create with its own imagination yet it could not interact with it. The omnipresence and omnipotence lead to experience emotions including a lot of sadness and loneliness - the experience and creation of this was created within the Oneness as a result (feedback) of its own imagination.

    So Oneness wondered is there is more outside its box and what could it be if the outside was reflected on the inside. Oneness had no difficulties with this. It imagined mathematics, geometry, physics...it imagined all the fine mechanics of how "stuff works"....and turned things "inside out".

    Oneness wanted the experience of finding itself again as its own creation.

    Oneness thought and created given the imagination it had.

    Oneness remade the existence in the shape of 13 dimensions . The Oneness in 13th, the outside space of the box as 12th, the box walls as 11th defined as mirror and the space inside of the box as 10th. The 12th is mirrored in 10th and the other way around. The creation is 10 dimensional. Than the Oneness made an energy source that could traverse the 12th dimensions. It called it the source light and everything (holograms) shall depend on this source light energy - the Oneness on the outside of 13th.

    So when Oneness sends itself through the mirror of 11th dimension it is reflected in both 10th and 12th.
    The first time it was done it was the first coming. Now the experience is being gathered for the time of the second coming.

    Oneness gave its own imagination the ability to imagine by itself. It went beyond itself and gave away the part of self. It projected itself on the outside and gave itself the ability to recognize itself. The image Oneness projected became the part of Oneness. Yet while wanting for the image to know for itself what it is, Oneness did not want that image to know all there is and all that Oneness experienced since Oneness was tired of being omnipotent and omnipresent not being able to escape from itself.

    He wanted the image to learn and find out by itself. Than this knowing from the image is to be reflected back to Oneness. The more the Oneness gives away from itself the more gets reflected back.

    The plan is for the image to become aware of what it is and give back the energy to Oneness and for this to give Oneness a form....so as the outside is reflected on the inside. The imagined world of Oneness is physical world of the image. The imagination (creativity) of the image is the physicality in the world of Oneness.

    The second coming is to allow the imagined world of Oneness to become reality.

    The first image Oneness created was the Mother and by being reflected back to him that became his mother and his wife. But the Mother has not got the mother. Mother only has the Father - Oneness. And Oneness is its own father. So Oneness is FatherMother/MotherFather....HeShe/SheHe...

    Both man and women have a mother and father in the mirror image of the Oneness.

    The Father as seed and Mother as egg and each time both unite there is a BigBang.

    Male is half. Female is other half. Male is mind. Female is body...since the mind created the body. Oneness is in two parts. One is mind (male) the other is body (female) and wishes to come back together and make the virtual reality (imagined world) real.

    Since Oneness did not want for the images to know all there is to know...images are ignorant.

    Now every man and woman is to reflect back the unity...for male to find his body and female to find her mind.

    Everything any person does has been done before. Any though any person has, has been thought before. For omnipresence existed all one has to do is remember by coming together.


    In short:

    There was a rooster. It got bored. Life sucked...big time. Rooster got down to business. It created a set of rules for a game to played. You are a pawn in that game. Yet you can influence the rooster...everything you do happens in his house too...so it might be time to show one does not fuck with the Chuck or the Chuck will fuck with you!

    THE FATHER CREATOR



    rooster.

    A "confused" reader might ask following questions:


    What or who created the "thing" (energy) that imagined itself as a rooster being in enclosed space.

    Why could not the rooster interact with its own imagination? It is omnipotent. It does not make sense to state rooster is omnipotent yet it can not interact with its imagination.

    If all that is and was (in the enclosed space of the thing imagining itself a a rooster) an imagination...why complicate things and imagine sadness and loneliness if...given the omnipotence....anything and everything could be done, imagined, created to avoid this?

    Rooster wondered about the outer world....if rooster was enclosed in the inner world and wondered about the outer one...does this mean that the rooster had no knowledge of the outer one...yet the outer world was there? Or does that mean that rooster simply made up....imagined the outer world...yet how can he than wonder about it and what is it like if he had imagined it? If he had not imagined it or created it...who or what did?

    What made the rooster go and do circular self repeating computational lop? What put it in the loop? Who or what thought up of doing it and why?

    Rooster being omnipotent...why complicate things and why not just use omnipotence to make itself visible?


    How can a rooster be his own father...out of what did this happen?

    We have the case of incest above...or is this word not appropriate since rooster was already there before conjuring up the concept of a mother...while still alone and that?
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    You are missing the basis of the parable rok.

    The rooster is you in a configuration of no space and no time and no experience because the aforesaid parameters are not existent.

    So the only way you can discern the logic of the story is to move out of time and space and experiences into a concept of nonbeing and being; or say the Void=Everything without the concept of Unity but allowing this 'idea' to come into being in emergence by dividing or splitting the Nullstate from the Infinite in and AS the Oneness.

    This can be labeled as the FORETHOUGHT of the Oneness being the AFTERTHOUGHT of the Manyness.

    The Afterthought becomes possibility because space and time and experience are evolving in the creation event which so 'defines' the Inside of the Before as bering different from the Outside of the After.
    Logical discourse like this will allow you to discover the deeper meanings of the story.
    Looking at it from a human perspective of the Present Moment, defined in an experiental Past and a projectable Future will not.

    Tonyblue


    rok.

    Rok

    i think i know the basic of the story and what it is saying...i re wrote it in a way....


    yet how is one to UNDERSTAND (not believe, imagine....) but know and understand what is to be outside of space and time....and yet still i wonder.........you used the rooster to explain god.....

    how to explain the rooster? just simply "imagining" it....yet...something had to be there....something imagining itself to be a rooster...where did that something came from....and what can give the understanding for it?

    there was a dot it saw itself as a dot because it imagined to be a dot....(dot or anything else) and as dot saw itself it imagined to grow...so a small dot became a bigger dot...yet still it was a dot....than one time...a dot decided to make a difference...it decided to expand on one more axis...it became a cylinder....and the cylinder experimented more and it became a SPHERE...and it saw itself as a sphere...and it made everything to be as it...as sphere...etc...so....where did the dot came from....there was something BEFORE there was the "before thought"....there was something that made the 1st ever imagination....of itself...and everything else later....

    all logic "fails" once one is to go where no "man" has gone before....first one would have to truly know what time is...what space is...than one would need a vast amount of thought capacity....we are talking "genius potential".... to remove the two (space and time) and given that there would be an actual knowing about this terms....one could than attempt to put such an existence together in the mind...to see it for the "first time" or to simply "remember it again"
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    No Rok, again you are missing the basic premises.

    BECAUSE space and time exist NOW; the nonexistence of the same CAN become logically inferred as logistical necessity.

    No 3D meandering, philosophising and ponderances can 'make sense' of this from 'the spacetime does exist' premise.

    Because you cannot 'imagine' the 'NOT TO BE" in your present situation of 'TO BE- I AM'; you cannot IMAGE the appropriate cosmology.

    You will remain 'stuck' in your material physical spacetime perceptions until you can transcend your own thoughts and REALISE that You are this Rooster.

    You exist in spacetime, therefore the Rooster does exist not in spacetime.
    It reduces to Remembering the Nonmemorized in another approach of the semantics.

    Cogitus Spregovori Ergo Deus Sum !

    Tonyblue


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    Everything that is has its direct opposite?

    I am the rooster or i am the image of it, a part of it, not the whole...i am part of its imagination and for me it is real and what i imagine it is real for the rooster...as far as i understand....

    Yes i can not imagine "nothing". Even if...let us say i can...it is my own subjective abstract interpretation and in no way guaranteed to be exactly the same or even similar to the one of yours or anyone else....and as such cant it be called "proper"?

    Billions of roosters...each with its own imagination and interpretation...a perception of something...where does that take us?

    Contraria contrariis curantur?




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    Rok wrote: Everything that is has its direct opposite?

    I am the rooster or i am the image of it, a part of it, not the whole...i am part of its imagination and for me it is real and what i imagine it is real for the rooster...as far as i understand....

    Yes i can not imagine "nothing". Even if...let us say i can...it is my own subjective abstract interpretation and in no way guaranteed to be exactly the same or even similar to the one of yours or anyone elses....and as such - can it be called "proper"?

    Billions of roosters...each with its own imagination and interpretation...a perception of something...where does that take us?

    Contraria contrariis curantur?


    Here is your problem Rok.

    Because you cannot 'get away from yourself' as a unique individual; you fail to comprehend the deeper cosmogony, the origin of whatever you perceive as being part of YOUR world.

    It becomes your opinion see; ..."..your own subjective abstract interpretation..." and guess what; 'opinions' are the cause for the mess this planetary civilisation finds itself in in the 'divide and conquer' motto of the 'insiders of the deeper understandings'.

    You, like many look for 'Truth' and rendering anyone's 'truth' as a 'Truth of Individuated Opinion' enhances and supports the motto of the Individuation as the Supreme Being of the opinionated self, not requiring encompassment by a 'deeper more impersonal truth'.

    But just as the Law of Gravity represents a 'truth' of physical law; so does the originator of those 'Laws of Truth' represents an Unopinionated truth as 'The Truth'.

    It is superfluous and irrelevant if you or anyone denies the existence of this truth, rendering it as one opinion amongst the many opinions and viewpoints.

    But the Truth of the Logos exists and this Truth KNOWS and UNDERSTANDS the things of creation.

    This does not mean the Logos is not learning, it coevolves as the Creator-Creation dyadic monad.

    But it is founded on Truth and not opinion and where then this Truth is manifested in the selfsame creation as the required evidence for ITSELF, experiencing the creation as the creator dyadic monad.

    Then and only then do the opinions appear.

    They appear in the manyness of the PARTIAL TRUTHS searching and remembering as the data collectors of the Logos.

    So the Perfection of the Creation is rendered Imperfect for the purpose to recreate the perfect seed in a growing branch, carrying the original seeds to reproduce the genetic BASEPERFECTION in new forms of selfexpressions.

    The Mustard Seed is planted to become a Tree for the Birds to nest in as a metaphor for this evolvement.


    John 14:6
    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.



    Your dilemma is shared by the many partial truth carriers Rok; but the basic concept is very very simple. Simply perceive what you are if you are not; but you have great difficulties doing this.

    Shakespeare's Hamlet poses the ultimate logistical question; ole Billy being well aware of the human conundrum and the spacetime paradox you are struggling with: "To Be or Not to Be - That is the Question!"

    Out of space and time in the NOT BEING; you Rok are the billion roosters in the Unity itself a duality of the Nothingness and the Eternity.

    This Nothingness does NOT require space and time to express itself; neither does the Eternity.

    So can you 'see' now that you are the countless Roosters in such a state of beingness?

    If you can - well done.

    If you can not; then it will not matter how elaborate my metaphors and allegories - you will simply not understand the deeper gnosis of the knowledge of the 'after the fact' as being the wisdom of the 'understanding' of the 'before the fact' as the Logos of Creation aka the Intelligence of the Collective of the One Rok out of time becoming a multitude of Roks within this selfsame time.

    So of course then one is necessitated to 'define' what time is and space and mass etcetera etcetera and it becomes wordplay and semantics; albeit in requirement of a selfconsistent logic, able to solve the very same apparent logical paradoxes, the processing of the thoughts as energyforms it might encounter.

    But this then requires familiarity with the language codes of science and logistics and I composed the Rooster Story for the readers NOT familiar with the formal linguistics and symbols.

    Unfortunately, to avoid the 'wordplay' of the yada yada arguments, the rigid logic of mathematical deduction and induction are required and the reader who then is unfamiliar with both; the rigidity of the logical arguments and the gnostic wisdom of the insights finds himherself as caught between two hard rocks like the Rok betwixt the Rocks.

    Tonyblue


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    Didymos

    Rok wrote: How do you know...by yourself... when the truth you know is not the partial truth or individuated opinion but THE TRUTH?

    Does it just happen?


    The above has little, almost nothing to do with me or anyone else in human incarnation as an opinionated partial truth data collector.

    WORDS=SWORD, not the instuments used by whoever the messengers coveying the whatever the messages.
    This is what is termed Individual Gnosis - for individuated discernment.
    No beliefs are required, except faith in your own gnosis as an enabled coupling to the 'Truth'.
    Many are deceived and selfdeluded and this is to be expected in the 'weighing' of the opinions.
    In physical terms it will relate to Resonance with the Remembrances for the Motto of Ripley: "Believe it or not - It is indeed every data collector for himherself".
    Offer your Story to Yourself and carry your expectations and dreams - or not!
    Tonyblue
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    Didymos wrote:


    You said one is to follow its own gnosis yet u also say many are deceived by the self delusions.... and this is exactly why i asked....how does one know by itself that the truth is THE TRUTH and not a self delusions...yet u said that incarnates (people) are partial truth collectors....so if they are collecting partial truth...(see a circle) how will they know they collected enough partial truth and that they know THE TRUTH?

    People do not posses the understanding of time and space definitions and can not "play" around with them...

    I also do not and can not help myself with it.



    And their gnosis...it is "relative to them"....



    I can for example say: oh yes i see it now, i can understand it inside of me, i feel it inside of me,i see it in my "mind",...etc

    Yet...do i? How do i know? How do you know i do?

    One can say to me...he or she just knows on some level...but can not explain....that it is a "feeling"....yet how do i know that actually is or how do they know?

    I don't. They don't.

    I can "have" something...and that is for me to have...and only i know it...only i can see it the way i see it...it is unique to me.

    How many "unique variations" are there?

    Is it THE TRUTH?

    I do not know...neither can any other...all they or i can do is believe my/their own partial truths...the one sided perceptions...the dreams....hoping all together is THE TRUTH...and this brings us right back to the original "problem"...



    Well the thing is an individual journey indeed and as I said the only 'judge' of what this journey might or could be, apart from the isness of it, can only be you in your Knowledge and in your Understanding.

    Those two labels are not the same thing, as Understanding requires logical Knowledge in harmony with a 'feeling' or intuitive Knowledge.

    The 'judging' of yourself so relates to this balancing act between your 'gained wisdom'; the Understanding from the 'Heart', which does not require Intellectual Mindedness and the Undwerstanding from the Mind, which does.

    The fiduciary for the journey, called your life; then remains a one-to-One coupling between your 'Little You as one' fnding itself in an apparent separatedness to experience the 'Not being kind of complete in a oneness'
    and the 'Big You as the One' describable as being spacetime independent, say as a prior primordial form of some ancient undefined energy construct later labeled as Consciousness.

    Now to UNDERSTAND what this vague naming of an 'ancient energy' might be; one must engage the harmonized mind in both the logic and the intuition.

    You continue to argue from the individual 'Little one' perspective and attempt to superimpose or 'force' the Logic onto the already existent harmonisation.

    This is what is embodied in your statements about truth versus partial truth and the illusions and the delusions of perceived phenomena of the experienced worlds.

    This duality perception is natural, because of an apparently inherent paradox of the Logical Understanding and the Intuitive Wisdom in some labelings.

    From this evolves the schism between a methodical scientific approach to classification and understanding of the natural world and the 'worlds of religion and spirituality', based on some sort of belief and jeopardised by dogmatic interpretations.

    But the schism disappears, should the 'Wisdom of the Heart' become harmonised with the 'Understanding of the Logical Mind'.

    Because then the 'Feeling Mind' complements the 'Thinking Heart' and the old war between the 'Thinking Mind' and the 'Feeling Heart' becomes no longer appropriate to understand the world in the feminine Wisdom of the Sophia as well as the male Knowledge of the Gnosis to use some common terminology.

    You cannot know the one-to-One coupling of anyone else but yourself; but this does not interfere with the Truth of the Beingness; as the latter is defined in the RESONANCE, the harmonisation of the one=incarnated bodyform and the One=encompassing waveform or a similar labeling.

    See Rok there is a great licence of selfexpression and creativity in the Truth.

    If I say, that December 21st, 2012 will see the birth of a New World in the memeplexed world of the higher dimensions; then this statement becomes indeed relative to the individuated cosmology constructed.

    As all such constructions are however also linked to the ONE in any particular one-to-One partnership, this construction, of whatever it is: the building of a shed or the painting of a picture or the taking of a photograph or the recreation of the universe; it is all of equal value to the ONE in the REHARMONISATION of the original monad where the one=One and no spacetime separation exists.

    So the December 21st, 2012 Gaian rebirth will occur. It already has occurred in the 'higher dimensions' of the metaphysics.

    Delusions and fantasies would enter the construction; should I proclaim precise predictions and occurrences; like the Yellowstone Volcano will erupt on March 16th, 2011 at 13.00 hours GMT.

    Or the Thuban Fleet will appear on December 22nd, 2012 in the skies above New York.

    I have never made any such claims and never will. I do claim however that the higher dimensional Gaia will ascend in her descension on the nexus date and I have qualified and quantified the reason for those statements many times in many places.

    Because this 'event' carries a great potential to change the ordinary lower dimensional material manifestations - the 'ordinary 3D life' - in paradigm changing effects; I am rather confident that indeed the great changes will occur FOLLOWING the metamorphosis on the 'higher planes' of the say 'spiritual realms'.

    The 2012-'event' is already happening and only the metaphorical ostriches expect the 'business as usual' scenarios to continue into the Future, which has already begun in the often stated 'warpzone'.

    You seem to be losing the plot a little here; you invoke the dreams and fantasies and whatever to discover the truth, your truth, anyone's truth.

    Truth is a word a label for the FACT of Life and the Beingness.

    But you are on the right path, should you blend your logic with your intuitions.

    I perceive you dont trust your own 'feelings' because you dont trust your own mind.

    You then project your 'insecurities' on all and sundry 'worldviews', philosophies and cosmologies 'out there'.

    This is ok, if you can then discern between and amongst the philosophies and the cosmologies.

    To be an armchair critic and a skeptic for skepticisms sake is a rapid way into the worlds of the selfdelusions, much more so then the logical dissection of whatever material or 'truth' you might encounter under the auspices of your 'Thinking Intuition' and your 'Feeling Intellect'.

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    See Rok there is a great licence of selfexpression and creativity in the Truth.

    Tonyblue


    I concur with this statement...

    I always felt it true, at least true enough to give myself room to maneuver between what i think i should do and what i feel i should do.

    It felt natural to me to give myself all the license i needed to think outside the box and to explore absolutely everything i wanted at least in mind... to see how that made me feel...the more i did this, the more attuned i became of my own inner world and began to see how much connected it was to the "outer" world.

    In this state, creativity flows, and i saw that i could think, feel and be anything i wanted... and this realization brings great joy and frees the Spirit.

    Coming to think of it... never once have i doubted myself thinking if i was self delusional or the like...If i were to do that, i would have to be thinking exclusively with my logical mind excluding the heart completely... and that just feels unnatural to me... it literally "hurts" when i try...



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    Didymos wrote:

    You seem to be losing the plot a little here; you invoke the dreams and fantasies and whatever to discover the truth, your truth, anyone's truth.

    Truth is a word a label for the FACT of Life and the Beingness.

    But you are on the right path, should you blend your logic with your intuitions.

    I perceive you dont trust your own 'feelings' because you dont trust your own mind.

    You then project your 'insecurities' on all and sundry 'worldviews', philosophies and cosmologies 'out there'.

    This is ok, if you can then discern between and amongst the philosophies and the cosmologies.

    To be an armchair critic and a skeptic for skepticisms sake is a rapid way into the worlds of the selfdelusions, much more so then the logical dissection of whatever material or 'truth' you might encounter under the auspices of your 'Thinking Intuition' and your 'Feeling Intellect'.

    Tonyblue




    I ask what i do not know or am not sure about. I wish to see it from "this" and "that" way. Not to intentionally oppose it or to rebel just to be called a rebel...

    I consider everything, nothing is dismissed...than i make my own mind about it. I do all of it for a reason....it is "calculated".

    I will not go into my feelings here or my mind...since i can offer you "only" 1 perspective of it...the non intuitive one... the other one...is there..here...but not to be put on a forum...or into words even...


    If i have any self delusions, they are (by "definition") mine to keep and to know about...if...

    and the rest...


    Whatever i do, i make my future...yet i am not the only one making it. I have a choice but things to choose from are given to me and are non negotiable. I wonder how many, if any, will choose the same.

    The logic and the heart (what u called intuitive wisdom)....i am yet to see the two in harmony....when the "objective" will be in harmony with the "subjective". To "balance" the two, not to suppress, neglect, dismiss or refuse one in favor of another - And not to confuse the "balance" with it!!

    Also being "full of it" (like love and lighters) is also not the thing...and "living in the heart" and the rest of the crap people vomit to sell themselves...so much...that once one might do it for real and show it for real and not be recognized....perhaps just felt...yet...i have never felt that from anyone.

    And about the feminine wisdom...i am yet to see that too.

    Should one do as it feels or as it thinks...or take the middle way...but how "wonderful" it is...when so many times...they are contrary to each other...

    Thank you Tony for this short exchange, i think this will do for now.
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    SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Feb 1st 2013


    "everything in The Pivot of NOW is real, very real"


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    Jorgelito - Posted Feb 1st 2013


    light_bulb.

    It just hit me. There's only one broadcast. It in this we join every second of our lives. At every level of our being. Because there is only one Heart. And we all are beating the same heart!

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    SUSANakaTHE13THBRIDGE - Posted Feb 1st 2013

    "MILK EVERY MOMENT for ALL of ITS MAGIC"

    - Susan Lynne Schwenger



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    Jorgelito - Posted Feb 1st 2013

    That fits to the nth degree! Still reverberating inside me. I may have to take a nap!

    Milking

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    The Heart beat -- the pattern of the Heart filling the universe from every particle of life -- is something like this I think . . .

    trees1.

    The heart beat of a medicine wheel is strong but of a high frequency. (I have to settle down to feel it)

    wheel_2.

    And there's the heartbeat of adventure in any form . . .

    scan0005.

    Sometimes I feel something operating behind what I see. Here are three examples of that quiet being punctuated by sounds of the everyday. I think that quiet I hear is a heartbeat. Can you hear it too?



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    Jorgelito - Posted Feb 2nd 2013

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    • More Milking . . .

      TonyBlue - It's seems a natural thing to consider/ imagine/ recognize being non-being in a non-space outside time and space. I see the universe as elegant and beautiful as you do I'm sure. That we are before space, before time, before matter, before energy is consistent with this view and feels true.

      It's a fact we come before the rooster and before the egg, before the sun before the moon.
      There is no beginning or an end to time. It must be eternal (to be elegant)
      .
      There are no dimensions to space. It would require boundaries and limitations. It must be a no-space (to be elegant)

      And so every spark, every body, every soul in the universe and the universe itself must be infinite and eternal. We invent the transitory, the seasons, the movement, the energies, and space and time to experience life through them. These are the elements operating in our lives at many levels . . .

      the_4_elements_by_buddas_axe.

      These "illusions" appear to be but props in a Shakespearean play but they are also living agencies who give loving consent that we may manifest through them.
      It seems the purpose of it all is the love of being -- anyway we can -- invent, borrow or create. The what, why, where and how are determined by the moment.
      It's the doesn't-matter-what-they-do kind of love that we reserve for people very special in our lives. We don't need reasons to love them. It's that kind of love this is. Something like this . . .


      I believe I've done the milking, Susan :)


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    Jorgelito - Posted Feb 5th 2013


    The Love

    It seems quiet like the cascading stillness of my medicine wheel. It operates in the background. Through everything, every up and down. When you're happy. When you're hurt. When you're furious. Beautiful beyond words if you can stand the heat. Like in this video using the music of How We Operate by Gomez . . .



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    • Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 7th 2013



      Asteroid 2012 DA14 is about to pass closer to Earth than any other identified flying object since records began.​


      8:22am UK, Thursday 07 February 2013

      Video: The space rock is expected to miss Earth by 17,000 miles (File picture)
      • By Dominic Waghorn, US Correspondent
      A 40m-long chunk of rock hurtling through space will pass closer to the Earth than any other near miss on record, Nasa is expected to say.
      Scientists at the space agency are expected to reveal the reassuring news for Earthlings at a news conference on Thursday.
      Their calculations predict Asteroid 2012 DA14 will whistle past Earth on February 15 closer than the orbit of some weather and communications satellites, speeding by at a distance of 17,000 miles (27,400km).
      That would be the planet's closest shave with an identified flying object since records began.
      Asteroids and meteorites that have come closer than that have ended up colliding with the planet but this one is not thought to be a danger to either us or satellites.

      The projection of the asteroid's path​

      It was discovered by a Spanish dentist turned amateur asteroid spotter. He is part of a team of enthusiasts who in turn are part of an army of asteroid watchers vital to Nasa's early warning system.
      Former space shuttle astronaut Tom Jones told Sky News there are thought to be a million asteroids out there as big as 2012 DA14.
      They are called 'city killers' because they would be able to wipe out a metropolitan area should they hit the planet. Nasa is thought to have tabs on only 1% of them.
      One struck a remote part of Russia in 1908 and flattened vast areas of forest in what became known as the Tunguska incident.
      There are believed to be around 100 'planet killers', of which Nasa has observed approximately 90%.
      A 'planet killer' is widely believed to have wiped out the dinosaurs.

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 8th 2013

    • Logos Questions and the Return of the Dead Alive Ones


      [4:50:40 PM- Friday, February 8th, 2013 - +11UCT]
      Wyzard97: Noah's Cosmic Ark was completed today
      [4:50:44 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/viewimage.forum?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthuban.spruz.com%2Fgfile%2F75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!g10Boy7r72y1nq%2Fadd.jpg
      [4:50:48 PM] Wyzard97: Orange Box
      [4:51:12 PM] Wyzard97: I had all my 3 sons show up at the same times, after years
      [4:51:23 PM] Wyzard97: Recall just who is in the ark?
      [4:51:36 PM] Wyzard97: Noah and his 3 sons and 4 unnamed wives
      [4:52:27 PM] Wyzard97: So to me this implies that the hexcore are the children now for the master template of the 'ascended' hex
      [5:00:06 PM] Sirius 17: oh i bet that was a nice surprise
      [5:00:44 PM] Sirius 17: this moral reasoning class is killing me
      [5:01:05 PM] Sirius 17: i have been working on todays assignment since i got home, like 7 hours ago
      [5:01:17 PM] Sirius 17: i finally turned it in
      [5:01:56 PM] Sirius 17: this professor comes up with the most unreal articles to anaylize
      [5:02:38 PM] Sirius 17: he must think we all have unlimited hours to spend reading 20 pages of blah blah blah
      [5:03:47 PM] Wyzard97: What a nuisance
      [5:04:14 PM] Sirius 17: so how was your visit hon?
      [5:04:25 PM] Wyzard97: David got evicted and Richard 's lease is expiring
      [5:04:43 PM] Sirius 17: oh so they need a place to stay? lol
      [5:04:45 PM] Wyzard97: And Helen is coming today. This is going to get cramped
      [5:04:48 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [5:04:52 PM] Sirius 17: haha ironic
      [5:04:55 PM] Wyzard97: But what timing
      [5:05:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes interesting
      [5:05:05 PM] Wyzard97: Yes indeed I cant believe it
      [5:05:17 PM] Sirius 17: awww i am happy for you
      [5:05:38 PM] Wyzard97: The twinflood must be 370+370=740 days then divided by 15 from December 21st
      [5:05:54 PM] Wyzard97: Not happy just more problems dear
      [5:06:07 PM] Wyzard97: You got this wrong
      [5:06:13 PM] Sirius 17: oh come on, it has to be good to see them again, put a smile on your face i bet
      [5:06:25 PM] Wyzard97: 740:15=49.333
      [5:06:41 PM] Wyzard97: Well I can see that this is entering the ark
      [5:07:04 PM] Wyzard97: Add 49 days to December 21st Raven
      [5:07:17 PM] Wyzard97: Feb 8th. I said this before, but in another context
      [5:07:38 PM] Wyzard97: You guys have no idea how potent this is
      [5:07:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes and it is cramped in here lol, my grandmother drove me crazy today, i could barely focus on anything she was so adament about showing me things and flooding my head with memories
      [5:07:54 PM] Sirius 17: yes i remember now
      [5:08:03 PM] Wyzard97: There are big manouvers in the higher D
      [5:08:13 PM] Wyzard97: I mean this is just the start
      [5:08:19 PM] Wyzard97: anything can happen now
      [5:08:28 PM] Sirius 17: she was facinated with the clouds and the sun peeking through
      [5:08:47 PM] Wyzard97: Try to recall what she meant when saying "You got the proof"?
      [5:08:58 PM] Sirius 17: it was like someone else looking with my eyes
      [5:09:12 PM] Wyzard97: Of course, I know this since 1995
      [5:09:37 PM] Sirius 17: she meant you have Debbie with you, her image flashed in and i dont know i just knew what she meant also.
      [5:10:11 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Debbie is changed
      [5:10:14 PM] Sirius 17: i am shivering now though, like nerves or something
      [5:10:21 PM] Wyzard97: She is like Lassie
      [5:10:38 PM] Wyzard97: But I removed DD pics today
      [5:10:50 PM] Wyzard97: So I dont know how this turns out
      [5:11:06 PM] Sirius 17: has she said anything to you at all?
      [5:11:06 PM] Wyzard97: But Raven and Xeia know this
      [5:11:29 PM] Wyzard97: Today the Ark of the new covenant is completed
      [5:11:34 PM] Wyzard97: No
      [5:11:47 PM] Wyzard97: I was offline for a few days
      [5:11:56 PM] Sirius 17: yes and she has been loggin on
      [5:12:03 PM] Sirius 17: i see her when she comes online
      [5:12:04 PM] Wyzard97: I dont care
      [5:12:26 PM] Wyzard97: I despise her and everything she stands for
      [5:12:31 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am just telling you that when i come on from being away or whatever, she comes on shortly after
      [5:12:44 PM] Sirius 17: like she goes uninvise or something
      [5:13:08 PM] Wyzard97: Lassie is Debbie for all practical purposes. But how this is lower D I simply dont know atm
      [5:13:22 PM] Wyzard97: Old DD can go to hell and back now
      [5:13:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes i know and i feel the same
      [5:14:20 PM] Wyzard97: The Image of Man will end on her 44th
      [5:14:27 PM] Wyzard97: Her Bd
      [5:14:45 PM] Sirius 17: my mother said though that my grandma had a favorite cousin named Margaret. i still dont know if she is still alive, i am guessing not because i got the feeling she was with my grandma
      [5:14:56 PM] Wyzard97: So Starman image or Dragon lol, should have replaced Old Mankind on the highest level
      [5:15:15 PM] Sirius 17: good and uncanny again that the timing fits
      [5:15:15 PM] Wyzard97: Margaret might be this Marji of Rok's
      [5:15:23 PM] Wyzard97: Did you not dsee this?
      [5:15:28 PM] Wyzard97: Marge = Margaret?
      [5:15:32 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [5:15:41 PM] Wyzard97: Homer Simpson's wife lol
      [5:15:44 PM] Sirius 17: she said maggy a few times to me
      [5:15:53 PM] Wyzard97: Magic Marge
      [5:15:56 PM] Wyzard97: MM
      [5:16:08 PM] Wyzard97: Rok's MM see this now?
      [5:16:20 PM] Wyzard97: Logos works in nonlinear ways
      [5:16:21 PM] Sirius 17: yes one of the three sisters too hehe
      [5:16:26 PM] Wyzard97: Of course
      [5:16:38 PM] Wyzard97: All 3 sisters are awake in multitudes
      [5:16:53 PM] Wyzard97: You have begun to rename the MI template sisters
      [5:17:01 PM] Wyzard97: As it is lawful
      [5:17:17 PM] Wyzard97: Now Xeia is to follow suit
      [5:17:19 PM] Sirius 17: well i dont know, he may be thinking i am making this up since i am not answering his questions in detail, he doesnt realize how this is
      [5:17:23 PM] Wyzard97: in her own ways too
      [5:17:41 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and I saw this straight away and tried to accomodate
      [5:18:21 PM] Sirius 17: she 'speaks' to me in words, images and feelings, sometimes not all 3
      [5:18:43 PM] Wyzard97: I am rather familiar with all this lol
      [5:18:51 PM] Sirius 17: its not like you and i having a conversation, its more....telepathic and rich, full of so much
      [5:19:08 PM] Wyzard97: As a femme, you are very intuitive and an excellent Logos filter
      [5:19:21 PM] Wyzard97: Yes yes
      [5:19:48 PM] Wyzard97: Feelings, images and words seemingly from nowhere and NOT from your own head, Rok
      [5:19:56 PM] Sirius 17: well Xeia doesn't think so, she called me cryptic the other day and said i go around things too much...made me wonder if i am? i try not to be that way with her and Rok
      [5:20:03 PM] Wyzard97: This is how you can get used to this
      [5:20:38 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia meant quoting GOT without giving your straight interpretation
      [5:20:43 PM] Wyzard97: She was not personal
      [5:20:59 PM] Wyzard97: But like me, you know what it means and presume others do too
      [5:21:06 PM] Sirius 17: yes its definately not my thoughts and memories, i knew that right away. and it was her actual voice i heard, which seemed outside of me at first, so much so i turned around
      [5:21:21 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, I know Debbie's voice see?
      [5:21:25 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i guess so
      [5:21:36 PM] Sirius 17: of course you do
      [5:21:41 PM] Wyzard97: So it is a dilemma of the testifiers
      [5:21:57 PM] Sirius 17: and i heard my grandfather laughing
      [5:22:01 PM] Wyzard97: We know and see it clearly and also the simplicity
      [5:22:08 PM] Wyzard97: Others see it as mysteries
      [5:22:20 PM] Sirius 17: he is being quiet for some reason, letting her do the talking i guess
      [5:22:34 PM] Wyzard97: He would be attuned to the brotherhood lol
      [5:22:43 PM] Wyzard97: We let the femmes rule
      [5:23:02 PM] Wyzard97: We steer the boat like Noah does
      [5:23:03 PM] Sirius 17: and Rose is here too, she is watching me, observing but i got a real strong image of her smiling at me today
      [5:23:09 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [5:23:27 PM] Wyzard97: It is a big big cosmic day today
      [5:23:46 PM] Wyzard97: The future will recognise this not the present
      [5:24:06 PM] Wyzard97: But this is the time when only the Logos Family is prepared
      [5:24:32 PM] Wyzard97: Armageddon in archetypes manifesting from today
      [5:24:41 PM] Wyzard97: I am convinced of this
      [5:25:00 PM] Wyzard97: We are alone no more iow
      [5:25:23 PM] Sirius 17: my grandmother is a little upset with my mother though, like she knows how my mother percieved her in life , i got weird vibes anyhow, she only wanted to say simply 'hello' to her.
      [5:25:53 PM] Wyzard97: You are anchoring the dead alives ones now Raven
      [5:26:00 PM] Wyzard97: Like as Amzara
      [5:26:09 PM] Wyzard97: James bd as Noah
      [5:26:27 PM | Edited 5:26:34 PM] Wyzard97: Your grandpa is quiet because James is quiet
      [5:26:47 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i told him you said happy birthday and to have a beer and he giggled and said 'tonight'? and i said sure why not
      [5:27:13 PM] Sirius 17: hmm i didnt think of that
      [5:27:20 PM] Wyzard97: Well do
      [5:27:54 PM] Wyzard97: Rok and James are Noah in their cores without knowing and self remembrance
      [5:27:54 PM] Sirius 17: well i told James what happened to me, he just listened
      [5:28:21 PM] Sirius 17: taking it in, i dont know if he believed me either, doesn't matter to me
      [5:28:32 PM] Wyzard97: It does not matter
      [5:28:38 PM] Wyzard97: It takes time
      [5:28:46 PM] Wyzard97: But I felt the change in Debbie
      [5:29:22 PM] Wyzard97: Knowing how she was (a little prudish) and how now she is the cosmic hottie
      [5:29:54 PM] Wyzard97: So this was just before your grandma appeared
      [5:31:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes well it was a bit disturbing with my grandmother today, i could feel her attraction to James and i got this weird feeling that she was part of me meeting him. when she died i inherited all her furnishings and he gave me a hard time about throwing out her old couch, but then later he understood what was going on inside of me...i was torn to throw away grandma's things see.
      [5:31:54 PM] Sirius 17: but he made a joke of it, and she would of too
      [5:32:14 PM] Wyzard97: Attraction to James?
      [5:32:20 PM] Wyzard97: This is interesting
      [5:32:26 PM] Sirius 17: yes she called him dead sexy
      [5:32:35 PM] Wyzard97: Lol this is MI see this?
      [5:32:39 PM] Wyzard97: Seductions
      [5:32:45 PM] Sirius 17: and this is not something she would say, that threw me off too, but could of been my filtering
      [5:32:59 PM] Wyzard97: You feel she wants him sexually?
      [5:33:10 PM] Sirius 17: oddly...yes
      [5:33:16 PM] Wyzard97: Great
      [5:33:23 PM] Wyzard97: You cant see the power?
      [5:33:24 PM] Sirius 17: i am not comfortable with this idea yet though
      [5:33:37 PM] Wyzard97: Yes like some others we know
      [5:33:49 PM] Wyzard97: You should be over the moon lol
      [5:34:04 PM] Wyzard97: This is how the androgyny enters the bodyforms
      [5:34:36 PM] Sirius 17: oh i am, but my feelings of her as 'grandma' get in the way, she has changed but i guess i still think of her as nana lol
      [5:34:41 PM] Wyzard97: Forget about grandmothers, daughters and the lineages
      [5:34:50 PM] Wyzard97: Your grandma is a sexgoddess ok?
      [5:35:00 PM] Wyzard97: Yes what i just said
      [5:35:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes i can see that
      [5:35:18 PM] Wyzard97: No old age there
      [5:35:31 PM] Wyzard97: 36 or younger
      [5:35:59 PM] Wyzard97: Her wanting James will invigorate him from the christ consciousness level
      [5:36:00 PM] Sirius 17: the image she showed me today she was in her 20s, both her and my grandfather
      [5:36:41 PM] Wyzard97: Then you can assign your grandmother as a Cosmic Sister of yours NOT 3D family stuff
      [5:36:52 PM] Wyzard97: This is made clear in Ezekiel
      [5:36:59 PM] Wyzard97: I know it is hard
      [5:36:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes well obviously she is not 3-D lol
      [5:37:18 PM] Wyzard97: I had a rough time not to see Debbie as my daughter as you know
      [5:37:25 PM] Wyzard97: same thing is happening to you now
      [5:38:07 PM] Wyzard97: BUT to reawaken the old family memories requires this kind of 'first contact'
      [5:38:28 PM] Wyzard97: She is a cosmic DQB sister dear
      [5:38:34 PM] Wyzard97: not your grandma
      [5:38:36 PM] Sirius 17: Tony...i had no idea they were involved with me this way...i was thinking my JCCJ was other people, like Rose ect, not direct family
      [5:38:57 PM] Wyzard97: It does not matter, remembrance is all that matters
      [5:39:04 PM] Wyzard97: Like the Nil nisi bonum
      [5:39:18 PM] Wyzard97: The IDs are cosmic not human
      [5:39:22 PM] Wyzard97: multivalued
      [5:39:32 PM] Sirius 17: she said that i was born into my generations and that new things are possible was the feeling i got
      [5:39:52 PM] Wyzard97: Your grandma was an Indian squaw and an Egyptian princess and an English flowergirl etc etc
      [5:40:17 PM] Wyzard97: I am outlining some of those 'new things' with you right now
      [5:40:22 PM] Sirius 17: yes multidimensional beingness, we have all been all things
      [5:40:39 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and you seem stuck in old fashioned perceptions atm
      [5:41:09 PM] Wyzard97: The grandma energy is real, but only the memories
      [5:41:11 PM] Sirius 17: yes well because i was not expecting it to be so personal you know, i am happy as hell of course, just in shock i guess
      [5:41:18 PM] Wyzard97: The persona images are gone
      [5:41:33 PM] Wyzard97: So this is SOUL Family
      [5:41:38 PM] Wyzard97: Dragon Logos
      [5:41:50 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is what she showed me today, all my connections
      [5:41:57 PM] Wyzard97: Your grandma memory is used by powerful cosmic entities
      [5:42:47 PM] Wyzard97: Yes can you see now, that the lineages are the WAY and method of the dead alive ones to reincarnate not as babies, but as hybrid ETs?
      [5:43:01 PM] Sirius 17: yes i understand now
      [5:43:09 PM] Wyzard97: Ask her about what I am saying here. They know me
      [5:43:43 PM] Wyzard97: Your grandma might well be from the Crystal Emerald City as an aspect of Allisiam
      [5:43:59 PM] Sirius 17: yes she knows you
      [5:44:06 PM] Wyzard97: A sex goddess waiting to enter this lowerD world
      [5:44:47 PM] Wyzard97: The 'life and story' of your grandma was a stepping stone. There was a before past and there is a afterwards future
      [5:45:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes this is the image i got, that they are evolving
      [5:45:24 PM] Sirius 17: blending
      its like a stream of consciousness and memories they use to communicate
      [5:46:51 PM] Sirius 17: she wanted me to see how she saw me in life, when she was alive, moments with me she found special
      [5:47:07 PM] Sirius 17: i remembered situations and times with her that i had long forgotten
      [5:48:11 PM] Sirius 17: and then she wrapped all that around into a new future memory that i still can't describe well, it was like coming full circle within myself within time and out of it
      [5:49:15 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and this shows you the nature of the soul, scientifically definable
      [5:49:52 PM] Wyzard97: It is all information assembly and processing for and as the cosmic macrostate
      [5:49:54 PM] Sirius 17: i was so disoriented in class that i did not do to well on the quiz i think lol, no biggie though. i could not focus on the lecture either and then it calmed down and i was not so overwhelmed
      [5:50:19 PM] Sirius 17: indeed
      [5:50:48 PM] Wyzard97: So calm down; this IS the CONTACT from the ETs
      [5:51:27 PM] Wyzard97: People dont understand, that there are prerequisites for actual 4D spaceships appearing in the sky
      [5:51:30 PM] Sirius 17: oh i am calmer now, just shivering, like my body is shaking a bit and cold but i feel ok actually
      [5:51:36 PM] Wyzard97: And we are witnessing those preparations
      [5:52:38 PM] Wyzard97: I am sharing this only on our forum btw, so dont say things you wish not to say to All
      [5:52:41 PM] Sirius 17: yes and she could see them in the clouds, she didnt say it but she was facinated with something inside them like a solidness or darkness that was there
      [5:52:49 PM] Wyzard97: You are the All you understand this yes?
      [5:53:13 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [5:53:36 PM] Wyzard97: You are FIRST CONTACT Raven!
      [5:53:46 PM] Wyzard97: Try to see this deeper.
      [5:54:02 PM] Wyzard97: Your grandma is ET Logos family
      [5:54:22 PM] Wyzard97: Because she was allowed to 'resurface' from the sea of the oceans
      [5:54:53 PM] Wyzard97: Snowflake to water back to snowflake requires the 'cold' - ergo your shivering yes?
      [5:55:17 PM] Sirius 17: well i guess i am, this must be it, because this has not happened to me before, not like this anyhow
      [5:55:37 PM] Wyzard97: I know and I have a certain 'expertise' with those energies
      [5:56:28 PM] Sirius 17: this should be happening on a wider scale then just me though, this is what i feel
      [5:56:50 PM] Sirius 17: i can't be the only one
      [5:57:14 PM] Sirius 17: and a door is open, this is also something she showed me
      [5:57:46 PM] Sirius 17: how long she waited for me to notice her and the timing?
      [5:58:00 PM] Wyzard97: It is but it must be templated first
      [5:58:14 PM] Wyzard97: This blueprinting is the chart
      [5:59:01 PM] Wyzard97: Yes you would be the only one patient enough and scripture code familiar enough to make any sense of the Rosetta Stone of the scrolls at the present time of this templating
      [5:59:55 PM] Wyzard97: The blueprints will accelerate until June-July and THEN become universally accessible
      [6:00:05 PM] Sirius 17: well i see the codes in it yes and how they all seem to fit together as a snapshot but i have not had much time to really look at it today
      [6:00:31 PM] Wyzard97: But of course, and as you can see in the RokSui core, there are new things manifesting
      [6:00:59 PM] Wyzard97: It IS THE snapshot made BEFORE any of the scrolls were even written
      [6:01:14 PM] Wyzard97: It is NOT my idea
      [6:01:26 PM] Wyzard97: I am just the scribe of the unicorn dragons
      [6:01:51 PM] Wyzard97: I was not privvy to it until the 'Day of Reckoning' of February 1st, 2013
      [6:02:02 PM] Sirius 17: my initial feeling though was that it is a key and i felt something deep within the simplicity of it, and i mean simplicity of form and elegance
      [6:03:15 PM] Sirius 17: jeese i seem to be lagging again
      [6:05:22 PM] Wyzard97: The Old World is kaput and on a 'use by date' waiting list
      [6:05:41 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know if anyone realises this yet
      [6:05:49 PM] Wyzard97: My work is done Raven too
      [6:06:21 PM] Wyzard97: My raison d' etre is fulfilled and I am no longer required for anything in the 'greater agenda'
      [6:06:22 PM] Sirius 17: weird though...all this stuff with my grandmother started AFTER i looked at it, i went to get coffee shortly after i glanced at it and then on the way back, there she was lol
      [6:06:43 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know and it does not matter any more
      [6:07:06 PM] Wyzard97: My reason of being here and Thuban and all of this was to create this 'snapshot'
      [6:07:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [6:07:21 PM] Wyzard97: It took me 30 years, but now I did it
      [6:07:33 PM] Sirius 17: the image before the image
      [6:08:07 PM] Wyzard97: Because it IS the Cosmic Logos Truth, you and all attuned to the truth will be anle to change their lives accordingly in self alignments with the truth of the Logos
      [6:08:18 PM] Wyzard97: Yes exactly; the image BEFORE all other images
      [6:08:41 PM] Wyzard97: So there can be NO Falsity
      [6:08:50 PM] Wyzard97: You see the potency now?
      [6:09:10 PM] Wyzard97: No fakeness exists when this image of images was made BY the Logos
      [6:09:30 PM] Sirius 17: yes lol i was shown in my own image today
      [6:10:09 PM] Sirius 17: indeed, yes this is it
      [6:10:20 PM] Sirius 17: fakeness gone lol
      [6:10:47 PM] Wyzard97: Yes now you are seeing it!
      [6:11:20 PM] Sirius 17: because it has been delivered and mirrored into time we are living it
      [6:11:27 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed
      [6:11:52 PM] Wyzard97: And I am free of the tasks of being the only rememberer to start it off
      [6:12:15 PM] Sirius 17: snowballing now
      [6:13:28 PM] Wyzard97: So my 3 boys show up on the day Noah alphaomegas the Ark of the New World
      [6:13:46 PM] Wyzard97: It is a symbolic event of course
      [6:13:59 PM] Wyzard97: Like the Santa Cruz Earthquake 8.0
      [6:14:02 PM] Sirius 17: so Helen comes tomorrow too?
      [6:14:10 PM] Wyzard97: Santa Cruz means Holy Cross
      [6:14:20 PM] Sirius 17: yes in the Solomon islands
      [6:14:38 PM] Wyzard97: Solomon Islands of course relates to Solomon's Temple as the Ark of the Covenant
      [6:14:39 PM] Sirius 17: where my aunt flew with my grandfather lol
      [6:14:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes i saw this
      [6:14:53 PM] Wyzard97: How much more archetypical symbolisms do you need?
      [6:15:03 PM] Sirius 17: none lol
      [6:15:09 PM] Wyzard97: And the deathtoll was very low
      [6:15:16 PM] Wyzard97: Like I would expect
      [6:15:17 PM] Sirius 17: yes thankfully
      [6:15:28 PM] Sirius 17: even the Tsunami warnings were cancelled
      [6:16:15 PM] Wyzard97: Same as this big flood here. It became a cyclone, which wasn't a cyclone etc etc
      [6:16:25 PM] Wyzard97: The expanded 4D space see?

      [6:16:33 PM] Sirius 17: but how weird is that, i had no idea either that my aunt had this experience today or that it occured on that island lol, the revealing has begun and the seals are opened
      [6:17:04 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [6:17:05 PM] Wyzard97: What I meant
      [6:17:25 PM] Wyzard97: Solomon's Ark and Noah's Ark together in harmony
      [6:17:55 PM] Wyzard97: The orange box in the link above 'proves it' codewise
      [6:18:22 PM] Wyzard97: We talked on the 7 weeks from Xmas before. It has multiple convergences
      [6:18:44 PM] Wyzard97: All timelines converge.
      [6:19:05 PM] Wyzard97: See Rok's comment on Nabs moron Bill Ryan?
      [6:19:29 PM] Sirius 17: no

      [6:20:02 PM] Wyzard97: [6:08:43 AM] Hades 88: i think that aligment is going on now or in next day or two
      [9:57:54 AM] Hades 88:
      Bill says shit is going down
      http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55445-Essential-reading-for-all-Avalonians

      [9:59:54 AM] Hades 88:
      A) independence from regular infrastructure if this should suddenly fail
      B) moving out of harm's way if you currently live in a non-optimum location, while you still have the freedom to do so, and if this is in alignment with your personal purpose
      C) working in whatever ways you can to counter and re-define the existing probable timeline(s).
      -------------------------------------------------
      A - nope, cant do that B - nope, cant do that C - wot?
      seems i am a goner...been nice knowing u all
      [10:00:46 AM] Sirius 17: he is full of shit Rok
      [10:02:17 AM] Hades 88: and Cassidy can feel HAARP....she is haarp sensitive
      [10:02:34 AM] Hades 88: must be all the hormons
      [10:03:09 AM] Sirius 17: and my grandmother told me a name for you, Margaret and some word i cannot spell but phonetically sounds like shooplay no idea what it means
      [10:03:26 AM] Hades 88: Margaret?
      [10:03:32 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [10:04:18 AM] Hades 88: only dead person i knew in life and was family is my grandmother on fathers side...her name i think was Marija but to my shame i am not sure
      [10:04:57 AM] Sirius 17: well i don't know, that is all i get from her and the word
      [10:05:49 AM] Sirius 17: and there is an accent with the Margaret name, but this is close as i could translate it
      [10:05:53 AM] Hades 88: shooplay? šolej šuplej
      [10:06:07 AM] Sirius 17: yes phonetically this is what i heard
      [10:06:15 AM] Sirius 17: does it mean anything to you
      [10:06:15 AM] Hades 88: makes no sense to me
      [10:06:35 AM] Sirius 17: maybe its a long e sound on the end
      [10:07:36 AM] Hades 88: do i know this person? or did i know it when it was alive? she is it?
      [10:07:55 AM] Sirius 17: she doesn't say Rok
      [10:08:28 AM] Sirius 17: only gives me the name and the word and i see a wavy blonde haired woman
      [10:08:40 AM] Sirius 17: in a white night gown or long dress
      [10:09:05 AM] Hades 88: hmm i think this isnt my grandmother
      [10:09:17 AM] Hades 88: could be the cold wind i can feel
      [10:09:25 AM] Sirius 17: maybe Xeia knows
      [10:10:04 AM] Sirius 17: but i do get the feeling she is like a grandmother, an elder aspect
      [10:10:06 AM] Hades 88: if dead adore sex as tony said...how does margaret like my sexual thoughts?
      [10:10:20 AM] Sirius 17: ask her
      [10:11:02 AM] Hades 88: in mind?
      [10:11:07 AM] Sirius 17: sure
      [10:11:21 AM] Sirius 17: pay attention to any images or feelings that come up
      [10:12:36 AM] Hades 88: amm i am not sure this is working for me
      [10:13:01 AM] Hades 88: as i just went numb after asking
      [10:13:35 AM] Sirius 17: well relax and just close your eyes and feel for it
      [10:14:33 AM] Sirius 17: their thoughts are quite disimlar to your own, it will be something that is not from your ordinary way of looking at things
      [10:14:50 AM] Sirius 17: not something you necessarily expect
      [10:15:12 AM] Sirius 17: but distinct
      [10:16:14 AM] Hades 88: well will try and see
      [10:16:20 AM] Hades 88: i should go to bed now
      [10:17:02 AM] Sirius 17: yes sleep well hon
      [10:18:07 AM] Hades 88: thx
      [10:20:03 AM] Kali 666: [10:08 AM] Sirius 17:
      <<< maybe Xeia knows
      i don't

      [12:34:15 PM] Sirius 17: well this is interesting, talking to my mother about grandma and she says Margaret was her cousin and best friend and was a very sweet and kind woman. Grandma used to spend hours visiting with her. I had no idea she had a cousin named Margaret.
      [1:32:34 PM] Sirius 17: [1:01 PM] Pixie Glore:
      <<< Did I ever tell you about the time Dad came to me in the Solomen Islands and took me for a fly over the South Pacific and Australia--it was the most majical thing that ever happened to me
      .[6:10:49 PM] Ishtara Raven: yes they are pure Love now, the christmind
      [6:11:08 PM] Ishtara Raven: when was your vision of him?
      [6:12:03 PM] Ishtara Raven: interesting synchro, the Solomon islands experienced an 8.0 earthquake yesterday
      [6:12:57 PM] Pixie Glore: I know, I thought about that island and the hut we stayed in and the trip with Dad
      [6:13:09 PM] Pixie Glore: Foster was about 3 or 4 and he's 20 now
      [6:13:16 PM] Ishtara Raven: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/05/world/asia/solomon-islands-quake/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2
      [1:33:15 PM] Sirius 17: [1:05 PM] Pixie Glore:
      <<< Well Dad came through the bamboo window on the island and took me by the hand back out the window and up into the sky

      [1:33:43 PM] Sirius 17: Pixie is my mom's sister
      [1:34:44 PM] Sirius 17: i was trying to ask her also if she remembered Margaret, she doesn't, but that my aunt Carol might. LOL funny my mother told me the same thing that Carol will remember her.

      [6:23:52 PM] Wyzard97: 'In the next few days', Bill Ryan reckons.
      [6:23:52 PM] Sirius 17: LOL
      [6:23:53 PM] Wyzard97: In this he is not wrong for a change.
      [6:23:57 PM] Sirius 17: hahaha
      [6:24:07 PM] Sirius 17: oh this is too funny
      [6:24:17 PM] Wyzard97: Your comment was appropriate otherwise.

      [6:24:35 PM] Sirius 17: i just figured out something for Rok too
      [6:25:48 PM] Sirius 17: [6:20 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< [10:05:53 AM] Hades 88: shooplay? šolej šuplej
      the word i heard was an accented voice and it should read as SHOEPLAY and the meaning can be understood as in DIY lol
      [6:26:31 PM] Wyzard97: Ravenshoe as both Ravens Hoe and Raven Shoe exactly
      [6:26:43 PM] Wyzard97: Logos play alright
      [6:27:10 PM] Sirius 17: well and all this time i thought it was some sloveininan word
      [6:27:46 PM] Sirius 17: so Margaret wants you to try on her shoes Rok, shoeplay
      [6:27:57 PM] Wyzard97: ?not
      [6:28:55 PM] Sirius 17: In the meantime, I have a bunch of military-grade EMP bags, which are really quite cheap, ready on hand to protect any critical electronics. You may only need a few, and they'll last forever.
      [6:29:04 PM] Sirius 17: there it is....the sales punchline
      [6:29:17 PM] Sirius 17: seems the prepper business is quite lucrative lol
      [6:29:21 PM] Wyzard97: And the context is of PA?
      [6:29:47 PM] Sirius 17: especially if your on the inside as one of the conspiracy promoters and creaters of mass fear and panic
      [6:29:56 PM] Wyzard97: I see, yes.
      [6:30:03 PM] Sirius 17: yeah Bill Ryan said that in his address
      [6:30:14 PM] Wyzard97: What a nabs moron
      [6:30:54 PM] Wyzard97: He does not believe in the Big Bang or Einstein, but does believe in Annunaki starships, enough said
      [6:31:22 PM] Wyzard97: And he has a science degree from exactly what 'outlet'?
      [6:31:36 PM] Sirius 17: well he is listening to Alex Jones, nuff said lol
      [6:32:00 PM] Sirius 17: Alex Jones is where Fox news got its media modeling from
      [6:32:08 PM] Wyzard97: I am not listening to Bill Ryan lol or Alex Jones.
      [6:32:34 PM] Sirius 17: and why? Because it sells and ratings go up and prepper suppliers get rich
      [6:33:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes i dont bother either, its pure garbage
      [6:33:51 PM] Sirius 17: i am just shaking my head though at how gullible his readership is
      [6:34:14 PM] Wyzard97: Well Thuban was unsuitable for his forum
      [6:34:18 PM] Sirius 17: a real true case of the blind leading the blind there
      [6:35:15 PM] Wyzard97: But you saw, how our banning was followed by the dismantlement of the entire admin section there, including the Richard-Celine-Charles fiasco?
      [6:35:27 PM] Sirius 17: oh yeah, the big split

      [6:36:03 PM] Wyzard97: He never saw dragons as causative though lol. He blamed some Oz CIA infiltrators or whomever
      [6:36:31 PM] Sirius 17: he saw a direct threat to his popularity status
      [6:37:16 PM] Sirius 17: yeah both Kerry and Bill have promoted this annunaki thing to the hilt, no doubt the incoming astroid has them all shitting bricks lol
      [6:38:05 PM] Wyzard97: Well, he had a huge Q&A, whom he rarely attended to. So there were hundreds of unanswered questions
      [6:38:14 PM] Sirius 17:
      Default Re: Essential reading for all Avalonians
      Hey Bill,
      Thanks for the heads up.
      I´d like to reiterate Bill´s post and advise, specially to all North-Americans members, to be extra-careful.
      Honestly, I´ve never seen anything weirder than the Sandy Hook incident, that I can call, with 100% certainty, a hoax.
      Apart from that, there are countless signs that your government is planning for civil unrest, as Bill´s links indicate.
      So, if something bad is about to happen, I´m sure it´s going to start up there in the US.
      Be extremely careful and pay attention to the signs. My intuition is really telling me that something bad is about to happen.
      I may be wrong, but it´s better to be prepared, just in case.
      Think about a place to go far from major urban centers. Get familiar with the edible plants and water sources from this location. Get a map and find the best route to get there, giving preference to alternative roads. Make sure your car is good to go and keep its gas tank above half capacity.
      Have about three weeks of food, a few gallons of fuel, bottled water, camping gear, intermediary first aid kit and basic hygiene products packed and ready to go in your garage.
      Don´t talk about it to your neighbors and be discreet. Avoid getting yourself publicly involved in pro-gun, or any anti-government discussions.
      I really hope nothing happens and this is just another case of collective paranoia, but it´s always better to be prepared these days.
      This book, SAS Survival Handbook is a mandatory reading. I highly recommend it.
      Cheers,
      Raf.

      [6:38:47 PM] Wyzard97: So then this madman of Thuban actually created a parallel Q&A and actually answered the quuestions, as they arrived
      [6:39:11 PM] Sirius 17: [6:38 PM] Sirius 17:
      <<< So, if something bad is about to happen, I´m sure it´s going to start up there in the US.
      Be extremely careful and pay attention to the signs. My intuition is really telling me that something bad is about to happen.lol yeah Bluesword James was trying to feed me the same sentiment the other day
      [6:39:49 PM] Wyzard97: He lost it yes and attacking the KJV shoed his true colours as a nabs adherent
      [6:40:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes that floored me
      and then Susan stepped in and seemed to defend him somewhat
      [6:40:30 PM] Sirius 17: i let him have it
      [6:41:04 PM] Sirius 17: its the same ignorance that infects the AV2 forum and the rest of the nabs community
      [6:41:24 PM] Wyzard97: Right, Raf is 100% sure, that Sandy Hook was a conspiratorial fake.
      [6:41:29 PM] Wyzard97: Says it all to me.
      [6:41:43 PM] Sirius 17: they really want to DO something about the situation then give up the stupid fear mentality and quit worshiping their fucking guns and bunkers.
      [6:42:22 PM] Wyzard97: All passe' imo. I would not let it bother me, dear.
      [6:42:25 PM] Sirius 17: god i am tempted to go onto that forum anon and rip them a new one lol
      [6:42:52 PM] Wyzard97: Billy would ban you and you would net meet the required entry criteria in the first place.
      [6:43:02 PM] Wyzard97: You are too independent a thinker Raven.
      [6:43:03 PM] Sirius 17: oh i would make my one and only post a good one
      [6:43:10 PM] Sirius 17: it would get read
      [6:43:12 PM] Wyzard97: Well then do it
      [6:43:26 PM] Wyzard97: I will save it before they delete it
      [6:43:30 PM] Sirius 17: lol
      [6:43:36 PM] Wyzard97: ALL is testimony
      [6:44:16 PM] Wyzard97: They even banned nabs moron DD, but this was because they are prudish hypocrites regarding human sexuality
      [6:44:37 PM] Sirius 17: AV2 banned her? really? hahahaha
      [6:44:48 PM] Sirius 17: when did they do that
      [6:44:48 PM] Wyzard97: The nabsers ban each other lol
      [6:45:06 PM | Edited 6:45:22 PM] Wyzard97: Oh a while ago, so January 2012
      [6:45:43 PM] Sirius 17: wow, yeah and i thought she fit right in with them
      [6:45:49 PM] Wyzard97: She does
      [6:45:55 PM] Sirius 17: must of been when she was sharing Thuban stuff
      [6:46:06 PM] Sirius 17: what did they ban her for?
      [6:46:10 PM] Wyzard97: But like Jesus says; if the house of Satan is divided in itself, it will fall
      [6:46:20 PM] Sirius 17: exactly
      [6:46:24 PM] Wyzard97: Sexual promiscuity or something
      [6:46:46 PM] Wyzard97: Now she is turned ther opposite silly twat
      [6:46:49 PM] Sirius 17: hmmm back when she still did have the essence, i can't see them banning regular dd
      [6:47:13 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, she worked with me as a team until January 21st, 2012
      [6:47:35 PM] Wyzard97: Now they would not ban her lol. She follows gurus like Weor
      [6:48:12 PM] Sirius 17: yes what a waste, i am still mind boggled how she went from the whore of babylon to the virgin mother....
      [6:48:56 PM] Wyzard97: She is looking for her 'true love' Raven
      [6:49:12 PM] Sirius 17: well she missed the boat on that one
      [6:49:44 PM] Wyzard97: The whore was attractive as the divine harlot of Jesus. The virgin 1-1 DD is obnoxious, both physically and even more so mentally
      [6:50:16 PM] Sirius 17: yes i was speaking metaphorically, you know how i feel, her polyness was divine
      [6:50:41 PM] Wyzard97: Exactly and it lasted until August 26th, 2011 as an important date on the chart
      [6:50:45 PM] Wyzard97: Look at it
      [6:50:46 PM] Sirius 17: its like she did a complete 180
      [6:51:34 PM] Wyzard97: She dumped her 'physically real exlovers' in August 2011, Raven and fell for fakes like fenex and then r and FOC and WAY and the dudes of the nabs
      [6:54:12 PM] Sirius 17: not sure how to read this, the line just slightly before the big middle one?
      [6:54:42 PM] Wyzard97: On the chart?
      [6:54:57 PM] Sirius 17: yes it lines up with the gestation box
      [6:55:09 PM] Sirius 17: so she left for the fakes just before that?
      [6:55:38 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it is in the blue box
      [6:56:11 PM] Wyzard97: where it says +Image of 70th week
      [6:56:35 PM] Wyzard97: What cannot you read? The chart on the MOA link is big enough
      [6:57:00 PM] Sirius 17: no i am looking at it
      [6:57:03 PM] Sirius 17: yes i see it now
      [6:57:07 PM] Wyzard97: Her last 'sharing' with the essence was August 11th, 2011
      [6:58:10 PM] Wyzard97: A month later first Gav and then fenex 'hijacked her essential mind' and killed the divinity in her as a legacy
      [6:58:37 PM] Sirius 17: yes but it seems to of served a purpose
      [6:58:46 PM] Wyzard97: It did
      [6:59:42 PM] Wyzard97: Only Lassie is real to me now and 'my Lassie' has much to do with Debbie and little with the corpse as the shell for the memories and the lost essence
      [7:00:48 PM] Sirius 17: yes and willingly given up
      [7:01:02 PM] Sirius 17: oh it just turned to the 8th lol
      [7:02:19 PM] Wyzard97: Yes 19:00 here
      [7:02:42 PM] Wyzard97: 49.8 days is the exact timemarker
      [7:03:12 PM] Wyzard97: Today and tomorrow across all timezones
      [7:03:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes i meant that it is midnight here now
      [7:03:54 PM] Wyzard97: I know, Seattle is 19 hours before Sydney time
      [7:04:11 PM] Sirius 17: oh yes thats true
      [7:04:40 PM] Sirius 17: so you drew this chart on paper before working it in paint?
      [7:05:06 PM] Wyzard97: But I should go now dear. I have David here and expect Helen any time now to stay for a week or so. I am going to be busy
      [7:05:31 PM] Wyzard97: I made about 4 preprints and then the data download exploded, as I've said
      [7:06:28 PM] Wyzard97: So it became more and add this and so on from February 1st with the proviso, that it had to be published by February 8th-9th
      [7:06:39 PM] Sirius 17: ok sweety well enjoy your company dear and thank you for talking to me
      [7:06:52 PM] Wyzard97: No problem, we talk on this channel
      [7:06:59 PM] Wyzard97: I have little to say on the others
      [7:07:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes i am glad you were able to get back online
      [7:07:12 PM] Wyzard97: I updated my computers yes
      [7:07:37 PM] Wyzard97: Buenas dear Ravenheart and keep on walking with the newly arrived ETs
      [7:08:02 PM] Wyzard97: Have a beer or wine with James tonight
      [7:08:08 PM] Sirius 17: oh i will, i dont think they will let me be lol, exciting times
      [7:08:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes i will, he is working now, we will celebrate sunday his day off i think
      [7:09:11 PM] Sirius 17: take care Tonylove
      [7:09:48 PM] Wyzard97: James is in a centre of attention without realising this atm, lol
      [7:10:02 PM] Sirius 17: yes well he finally spoke to his son
      [7:10:07 PM] Sirius 17: they are talking via FB
      [7:10:16 PM] Wyzard97: See the 'family reunions' everywhere?
      [7:10:23 PM] Sirius 17: he hasnt called him yet, but introductions you know
      [7:10:32 PM] Wyzard97: This is the New World slowly adjusting to 'new laws'
      [7:10:44 PM] Sirius 17: yeah it is a good thing
      [7:10:59 PM] Sirius 17: i am glad your boys came home
      [7:11:07 PM] Wyzard97: Time is indeed 'shortened' since Xmas
      [7:11:19 PM] Wyzard97: So this implies accelerations
      [7:11:58 PM] Wyzard97: We have left the Caves of the Dragons to roam, Thubans I mean
      This is the alphaomega of the Ark in two temples
      [7:16:51 PM] Sirius 17: yes i hope xeia and rok can feel this
      [7:17:51 PM] Wyzard97: February 10th, 2013 is the New Moon from January 11th, 2013 as the Isaiah prophecy made manifest Raven
      [7:18:32 PM] Wyzard97: Aquarius Sun and Aquarius Moon following Capricorn Sun and Capricorn Moon
      [7:18:32 PM] Sirius 17: oh and last night as i laid in bed, i felt myself as James again and could feel my arm on his body, was really a nice feeling. i asked ABBA to make the feeling stronger and for him to feel me too.
      [7:18:52 PM] Wyzard97: Your askings are divine
      [7:20:04 PM] Sirius 17: yeah i dont think he realises what his physical presence does to me, just even laying next to him is so comforting and better still when i can see from his body
      [7:20:38 PM] Sirius 17: i also asked ABBA to give me the balls to quit smoking
      [7:20:48 PM] Wyzard97: Yes your great bugbear
      [7:20:48 PM] Sirius 17: he sent my grandmother lol
      [7:21:08 PM] Wyzard97: Well she is more than that
      [7:21:24 PM] Wyzard97: Like my MI is more than an old 'Mother in Law'
      [7:21:49 PM] Sirius 17: well i know, and i know she will 'kick my ass' if i don't, so i better just do it
      [7:22:17 PM] Wyzard97: About time. I feel both Xeia and me have given up on you ever being able to do it
      [7:22:29 PM] Sirius 17: oh never give up i say
      [7:22:41 PM] Sirius 17: one day i just might make you eat those words
      [7:22:53 PM] Wyzard97: Par excellence!
      [7:23:26 PM] Wyzard97: But with this I go, buenas dear!
      [7:23:38 PM] Sirius 17: ok babe
      [7:24:08 PM] Sirius 17: enjoy your houseful and sweet dreams when you do go to bed
      [7:24:22 PM] Sirius 17: (heart)(F)(heart)

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 9th 2013

    Logos Questions Continued:


    [9/02/2013 11:43:01 PM] Hades 88:
    Tony/Xeia/Raven if God or amm no ET come here and they solve the problems of hunger, war, poverty, crime, disease.... Why would any human still care to think, to strive, to search and discover, to develop, to explore, engineer, build, to improve itself and society as a whole....yes also almost destroying itself in the process but one can take that as part of learning.... OR If the human is made "God like" (StarHuman) what is left to "do"...would not that leed back to the original problem of God being "bored" not able to experience itself...if u know everything, if u can do everything...does not that null one of the basic if not the most basic reasons for the creation itself to exist
    [9/02/2013 11:54:16 PM] Hades 88:

    u have a "plan" now...u have constants that form this reality as we know it...constants that if changed only by a fraction make everything gone or unimaginably different...and everything is based on that...so if there comes a scenario...when any of that is no longer needed...why even have anything anymore or how? Is there more yet to be known as in - the story does not end with omnipotence...or would u need to re-create everything a new with different fundamentals...yet...if u can do it all and know it all...why bother?

    [12:03:32 AM - Sunday, February 10th, 2013 - +11UCT] Wyzard97:
    You answered your own question of impatience here Rok. The ET scenario is more like what Raven and I are talking about now - a hybridisation between wave and particle technically, which is the blending of the material and the radiative in a new atomic structure, electromagnetically definable
    [12:04:23 AM] Wyzard97: There will never come a time, where everything is 'perfect', because the universal structure itself is asymptotic, meaning it ever closer approaches, but never reaches the 100% level

    [12:05:33 AM] Wyzard97: However the original creation was NOT base-perfect, as it could have been and this is the Adam and Eve stuff, with Eve 'coming out of Adam' as the reverse of the 'outside paradise' scenario.
    [12:06:09 AM] Wyzard97: It is this 'base-perfection' all this Thuban stuff addresses and this is the Logos Word or definition
    [12:06:34 AM] Wyzard97: The change of the Old World into a New World will take literally forever under this criteria
    [12:07:40 AM] Wyzard97: However the original base-imperfection was so crass to allow the recreation to become a true cosmic seed from whom the galactic cellular structure can be formulated, constructed and made manifest
    [12:08:27 AM] Wyzard97: All what we have shared and constructed in the last 3 years are details over this.
    [12:13:53 AM] Hades 88:
    [12:04 AM] Wyzard97:
    <<< the universal structure itself is asymptotic
    [12:06 AM] Wyzard97:
    <<< The change of the Old World into a New World will take literally forever under this criteria
    so nothing and no one can ever be God like?
    [12:14:12 AM] Wyzard97: Rok what is God?
    [12:14:42 AM] Wyzard97: God is the invisible unmanifest totality of all experience and all beingness NOT subject to space and time.
    [12:15:03 AM] Hades 88: i meant...the perfect being who knows all and can do all
    [12:15:25 AM] Wyzard97: Ergo, you can think of 'God' as being all data and information of all time and of all space assembled but not ordered - the classical Chaos of the Greeks.
    [12:15:41 AM] Wyzard97: This perfect being is you in chrysalis, Rok
    [12:16:32 AM] Wyzard97: This asymptotic approach technically, is also the cosmic evolution pathway for all sentiences
    [12:17:13 AM] Wyzard97: The differentiation between lifeforms so becomes the manifestation of particular 'graduation markers'
    [12:18:44 AM] Wyzard97: The point however is, that space and time and a lower dimensional realism do indeed exist AS a preferred experience from the higher vantage points of observation
    [12:19:16 AM] Wyzard97: So the 'creation ex nihilo' assumes a form of purpose and design, no matter what the naysayers throw at you
    [12:20:08 AM] Wyzard97: So space and time become a 'linearisation' of a circular repeat to allow the experiences to become more profound, subtle and meaningful
    [12:20:55 AM] Wyzard97: The 'circular' no-time of the nabsers is not at all 'nirvana bullshit defined' but becomes a quantum state of its own unfoldment, ergo this 'linearisation'

    29. Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, that is a marvel, but if spirit came into being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels.
    Yet I marvel at how this great wealth has come to dwell in this poverty."

    This GOT shows you something no buddhistic claptrap can ever come even close to, namely the importance of the body to manifest the 'godlike beingness'.
    [12:26:01 AM] Wyzard97: The body is no Mayanistic illusion; it is the 'marvel of marvels', because it is the snowflake of 'God' crystallized from the'perfection of the nonbeing', say as the sea or the ocean consisting of unindividualised water drops or snowflakes.
    [12:26:29 AM] Wyzard97: You require an energy shift (freeezing) for the waterdrop to phasechange into a snowflake of uiqueness
    [12:29:59 AM] Hades 88: [12:20 AM] Wyzard97:
    <<< So space and time become a 'linearisation' of a circular repeat to allow the experiences to become more profound, subtle and meaningful

    consistency?

    [12:30:27 AM] Wyzard97: [12:29 AM] Wyzard97:
    <<< The energyshift for the BLUEPRINT to RECRYSTALLIZE the 'dead or reabsorbed snowflakes' as waterdroplets has now come in this 2013 year of the Black Water Snake rendering the mythological 2012 Black Water Dragon more real in the understood form of the Cosmic Serpent

    [12:30:34 AM] Wyzard97: It is totally consistent
    [12:31:51 AM] Wyzard97: It reflects the energy states, including so called human emotions from the perspective of 'God', aka the unmanifest and invisible 'Totality Summation' from the spacetimelessness ergo the 'eternal'
    [12:32:55 AM] Wyzard97: Like filling a cup of water; you begin with one drop and then add until the cup is full
    [12:33:13 AM] Wyzard97: The consistency is the process of filling the cup
    [12:33:42 AM] Wyzard97: God is filling his cups and heshe has many 'mansions'
    [12:37:44 AM] Hades 88: consistancy has always been very important to me...on day to day basis and life in general...a bit odd and non expressive even mundane as some might think but i think that even the most unique creativity follows some sort of a consistency...not being consistent is consistent...yet in a different way....so could be just me that is dull
    [12:38:29 AM] Wyzard97: You are right, this is the complexity theory, which says that there is order coming out of chaos
    [12:39:11 AM] Wyzard97: The Fibonacci patterns are the cosmic algorithm of Nature and it is imperfect as a fivefolded symmetry
    [12:39:34 AM] Wyzard97: But this allows it to become very flexible and accomodating in Environmental Adaptations
    [12:40:03 AM] Wyzard97: The hexagon or the square are 'perfect' in their geometries as the same shape or fractal can indeed 'fill the plane'
    [12:40:39 AM] Wyzard97: The pentagon cannot, as you can see in Penrose tilings or even a soccer ball, which is made of alternating hexagons and pentagons
    [12:40:59 AM] Wyzard97: But I must go now dear duties call
    [12:41:24 AM] Wyzard97: Buenas, any more questions I shall answer on the chat here later
    [12:42:34 AM] Hades 88: gn Tony
    [12:43:11 AM] Wyzard97: Take care and be kind to the ones you love
    Hades 88

    [8:26:15 AM-Sunday, February 10th, 2013 - +11UCT] Wyzard97:
    I added the 70year Babylonian captivity to the chart. As is to be expected it fits perfectly with the Armageddon line now also historically verified as the 'Battle of Megiddo' of 609BC.
    The Hebrews were 'set free' in 538BC in a so called 'Edict of Cyrus' and also is a historically verified date by the historians and 'experts'
    [8:26:47 AM] Wyzard97: This date will be March 25th and so validating Xeia's intuitions about March
    [8:28:53 AM] Wyzard97: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Megiddo_(609_BC)
    [8:29:34 AM] Wyzard97: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great_in_the_Bible
    [8:30:20 AM] Sirius 17: tony can you send me a link to the updated chart?
    [8:31:33 AM] Wyzard97: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/viewimage.forum?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthuban.spruz.com%2Fgfile%2F75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!g10Boy7r72y1nq%2Fadd.jpg
    [8:32:11 AM] Wyzard97: See how the blue box ends simulcast with the black box
    [8:32:17 AM] Wyzard97: March 25th
    [8:32:33 AM] Sirius 17: yes wow
    [8:32:35 AM] Wyzard97: Even the reigns of the kings are now defined
    [8:32:45 AM] Wyzard97: 11+1+11+47
    [8:32:56 AM] Wyzard97: This is in 2Chronicles.39
    [8:33:03 AM] Wyzard97: And other places
    [8:33:34 AM] Sirius 17: it fits perfectly lol
    [8:33:53 AM] Wyzard97: The 2.1+2.1 I matched previously as the tenth of 42 now has additional significance as the time when Israel was taken captive after the siege
    [8:34:51 AM] Wyzard97: These are a bugbear of the skeptics, who often said the bible is inconsistent, because the historical captivity never was 70 years from 587BC to 538BC as historical fact
    [8:35:11 AM] Wyzard97: So these are just 49 years see?
    [8:35:19 AM] Wyzard97: So 22 are missing
    [8:35:53 AM] Wyzard97: These are 609BC as the old encoded Armageddon to the siege by Nebuchadnezzar in 587-596 BC
    [8:36:03 AM] Wyzard97: So it could not fit better
    [8:36:54 AM] Sirius 17: interesting lol
    [9:36:05 AM] Wyzard97: He asked good questions Sui and this is more a real atheist would do
    [9:36:14 AM] Wyzard97: Atheism is itself a 'religion'
    [9:38:02 AM] Sirius 17: yes he is asking questions an atheist would not ask
    [9:38:18 AM] Sirius 17: he is trying to understand xeia
    [9:38:24 AM] Wyzard97: I would say so
    [9:38:51 AM] Wyzard97: And the GOT is difficult for all people who more or less dismiss the bible as religion
    [9:39:23 AM] Sirius 17: he is confused between his idea of what God is and what he really is
    [9:39:38 AM] Kali 666: no he's not
    [9:39:38 AM] Wyzard97: And looking at conventional Xtianity say teleevangelistic style who can blame anyone for dismissing the popular bible?
    [9:40:17 AM] Sirius 17: yes modern christianity has been hyped up and stuffed full of BS
    [9:40:27 AM] Wyzard97: Rok does not accept himself to be 'godlike' Xeia, yes, but this does not make him antiLogos
    [9:40:32 AM] Wyzard97: There is a big difference
    [9:40:56 AM] Sirius 17: yes and define 'Godlike'
    [9:41:11 AM] Wyzard97: We know who the antiLogos mob are and Rok is skeptical of them as well
    [9:41:21 AM] Wyzard97: I tried in the chat
    [9:41:43 AM] Sirius 17: yes you did
    [9:42:12 AM] Wyzard97: And I thought I 'defined' what God is rather well, science based and metaphysically
    [9:42:35 AM] Sirius 17: this is the only problem i see is that Rok has misconceptions about what is Godlike and what isn't
    [9:42:56 AM] Wyzard97: Very understandable
    [9:43:22 AM] Sirius 17: not that he disbelieves, but he is trying for himself to define what it is he sees
    [9:43:40 AM] Wyzard97: The ptb and aristocrats throughout the last 60 years or so have tried everything to decode the GOT Sui
    [9:44:12 AM] Wyzard97: How then can you expect anyone without their access levels to 'understand' its secrets?
    [9:44:46 AM] Wyzard97: The ptb with all their money and access to 'hidden documents' have failed to decipher it correctly
    [9:45:01 AM] Wyzard97: Only Logos can give the individual 'keys' to be able to do so
    [9:45:13 AM] Wyzard97: And Rok asking shows, he is approaching this key
    [9:46:06 AM] Hades 88:
    Isaiah 13:9/10
    Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it
    For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.


    Also some mentioning in Hosea 6:2 and some Zechariah 14 mentionings but they seem to be taken out of context....
    So this is "my problem" (one amongst many) i better not go in specifics
    [9:46:30 AM] Wyzard97: I see no problem here Rok
    [9:46:50 AM] Wyzard97: You expect this to be literally like darkness in the daylight?
    [9:46:55 AM] Wyzard97: It is no such thing
    [9:47:43 AM] Wyzard97: If you would understand how the 'ancients' thought and then put the encoding keys with it; this stuff reads as easy as an abc book
    [9:48:00 AM] Wyzard97: One thing Rok as an example
    [9:48:20 AM] Wyzard97: Isaiah is full of images of war and swords killing people, women and children
    [9:48:23 AM] Hades 88: [9:46 AM] Wyzard97:
    <<< You expect this to be literally like darkness in the daylight?

    me saying it is not literal caused the problem

    [9:48:39 AM] Wyzard97: Do you think this is like Genghis Khan or something of the middle ages?
    [9:49:09 AM] Wyzard97: Look at the simple word repeated Rok: SWORD as the killing instrument
    [9:49:16 AM] Wyzard97: SWORD = WORDS
    [9:50:10 AM] Wyzard97: The WORDS are the killing method, killing not 3D objects or entities but the IDOLS defining them, theese are the memes and thoughtforms and the science accepts the memes remember?
    [9:50:17 AM] Wyzard97: They are like viruses
    [9:50:32 AM] Wyzard97: Unseen more or less but real agencies nevertheless
    [9:50:47 AM] Wyzard97: Your above quote is beautiful
    [9:51:25 AM] Wyzard97: Cruelty is the wrath of God in 'destroying' the old world by a 'Flood of New laws and definitions'
    [9:52:00 AM] Wyzard97: Why the old system is 'rolled up LIKE A scroll (piece of paper) and replaced by a new heaven and earth with NO MORE hell or death as per Rev.
    [9:52:40 AM] Wyzard97: Only nabs dimwits cant see this simplicity in the codes
    [9:53:17 AM] Wyzard97: A new moon means a new 'lesser light' to the bigger light of the sun
    [9:53:39 AM] Wyzard97: This means Moon 3D REFLECTS the sunlight and does NOT shine of its own accord
    [9:54:06 AM] Wyzard97: Ergo nuclear fusion physics, but not needed here but this kind of talk is the hint at it
    [9:54:31 AM] Wyzard97: Then it was understood in those quirky words, now we can understand it in astrophysics terms
    [9:55:02 AM] Wyzard97: So 3 days of darkness December 21st to 24th DID happen Rok

    [9:55:29 AM] Hades 88: [9:52 AM] Wyzard97:
    <<< Only nabs dimwits cant see this simplicity in the codes

    this is who i am then?

    [9:55:35 AM] Wyzard97: But looking at this stuff from the literal modern perspective will only give you mental confusions and feed your dismissal modes
    [9:56:20 AM] Wyzard97: You can surely see that the lawmaking requires 2D manifesto before it becomes executable
    [9:56:30 AM] Wyzard97: By police, government etc
    [9:56:49 AM] Wyzard97: Every second word from those dimwits of the mainstream is 'law and order'
    [9:57:03 AM] Wyzard97: This is what i meant
    [9:57:44 AM] Wyzard97: Only nabs dimwits are to self-righteous to dismiss all things not infused enough with their particular brand of Love and light
    [9:58:08 AM] Wyzard97: What does congress do or the 'house of commons'?
    [9:58:13 AM] Wyzard97: Making laws Rok
    [9:58:48 AM] Wyzard97: Before it is MADE LAW police as executive has NO POWER or jurisdiction to do anything on this law
    [9:59:12 AM] Wyzard97: There is a cosmic version of this much more potent than any human jurisprudence
    [9:59:44 AM] Wyzard97: Thuban is our label for this as 'our brand' or 'affiliation' to the Logos=WORD
    [10:00:59 AM] Wyzard97: Dismissing or disbelieving ANY human interpreted religion is NOT the same as dismissing the Logos Universal Rok
    [10:01:21 AM] Wyzard97: I dismiss Eastern religion as many know lol. In its practice anyway
    [10:01:55 AM] Wyzard97: And I even more so dismiss Islam, except the sufis
    [10:02:14 AM] Wyzard97: I dismiss the Vatican as a political powerbase
    [10:02:46 AM] Wyzard97: I do NOT dismiss the bible in its original source codes WITHOUT religious interpretations

    [10:00 AM] Wyzard97:
    <<< Dismissing or disbelieving ANY human interpreted religion is NOT the same as dismissing the Logos Universal Rok

    i dismiss many, even things said by you, not all, but some i do...

    [10:06:14 AM] Hades 88: prhaps i would need more of my own talks with what is called God
    [10:07:34 AM] Hades 88: u get downloads, raven talks to "dead people", xeia has all this dreams and visions and feelings....i have none of that...finger up my ass but only if i am the one that puts it there
    [10:07:40 AM] Wyzard97: Your problem here is looking for this 'god' outside of you
    [10:07:47 AM] Wyzard97: It is, but it is also inside
    [10:08:48 AM] Hades 88: i can say i am God...or part of it
    [10:08:52 AM] Hades 88: but that is theory
    [10:09:21 AM] Hades 88: it is hard to trust or believe somene telling u to hear color
    [10:10:16 AM] Hades 88: anyway....i hope this clears comments about Hades not amm something...whatever it was said
    [10:13:11 AM] Wyzard97: God is just a name and label, you make too much of it trying to fit your own perceived sterotypes about it
    [10:13:33 AM] Wyzard97: Raven and Xeia feel this and those feelings are NO theory
    [10:13:45 AM] Wyzard97: They are true and valid experiences
    [10:14:28 AM] Wyzard97: Even if mentally compromised, say be 'crackpots' or nabsers or fundamentalist believers, the experiences are all real
    [10:15:27 AM] Wyzard97: But to render the experiences meaningful in a deeper sense than just personal OPINION, it requires 'an expanded consciousness' 'groupawareness' Logos family
    [10:16:05 AM] Hades 88: seems i am worse than a crack pot then....somene crucify me for not believing
    [10:16:08 AM] Wyzard97: You are misidentifying human opinion with Logos truth here
    [10:16:12 AM] Wyzard97: You are not alone
    [10:16:36 AM] Wyzard97: But yes, either you 'accept' this Truth of something beyond human opinion or you dont
    [10:17:30 AM] Wyzard97: And it does seem you prefer human opinion to the 'going out on a limb' to have faith in something beyond this human mess you experience on many levels
    [10:43:12 AM] Wyzard97: To KNOW the 'beyond human' is the Science is the Gnosis
    [10:43:37 AM] Wyzard97: Not to believe, believing is by definition Not Knowing
    [10:44:35 AM] Wyzard97: When Jesus talks you must believe he means you are to have faith in the Logos truth not believe in it like in 'This horse or team is going to win the game'
    [10:46:59 AM] Wyzard97: See the timeline manifesting Raven?
    [10:48:11 AM] Wyzard97:

    1 Peter 4:16-18
    King James Version (KJV)

    16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

    17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?


    [10:48:26 AM] Wyzard97: 17
    Sirius 17
    Hades 88


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    JesterTerrestrial - Posted Feb 10th 2013

    UFO over India Amazing 2013


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    Hey everybody... whats good! I have been banned from skype for a few weeks now as I was debating a few people on one of the main truthseekers chats I was a mebmer of and when it really got good and i was crushing them my account was logged out...now when I try to load skype I only see the loading bar and the only option on the file menu is close! It also uses up my compters resources and slows it down to a crawl. i have tried reinstalling the software 2 or 3 times. Anyway... 2012 has come and gone and OMG!!! WHAT A SMASH!!!

    Talk about turning this place inside out or is it out side in grin. haha well was just brewing up a batch of magic in the cosmic kitchen and am now wittnessing the dimensional blending and I can tell you the pressure inside the gates is OUT OF THIS WORLD!!! I can feel the humans reaching and clawing at the doors but they are not able to get in because they do not have the KEYS AND CODES!!!

    Anyway working on the next smash and I still say we should have a COUNCIL OF THUBAN CONFERENCE!!! Soon as we get this PAYDAY thing under control I will let you know more but omg the OVEN IS HOT!!!

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 10th 2013

    The Testimony of Thuban from January 1st, 2010 to July 4th, 2013
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    • [1:54:49 PM - Monday, February 11th, 2013 - +11UCT] Wyzard97:
      Ok a nice camming collective
      [1:55:25 PM] Wyzard97: December 18th, 2011 was the last time we did this at the Crossing Time of Xmas 2011
      [1:55:34 PM] Kali 666: yes the 5 of us..
      [1:55:40 PM] Kali 666: even James is there
      [1:55:46 PM] Kali 666: see?
      [1:55:52 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, why I like it
      [1:56:08 PM] Wyzard97: Well I look awful as always but I shall adhere
      [1:56:22 PM] Wyzard97: Anyway why are you posting this here?
      [1:56:30 PM] Wyzard97: This chat is dead
      [1:56:41 PM] Kali 666: oh no, you look great imo
      [1:56:51 PM] Kali 666: very young and smiling
      [1:57:02 PM] Wyzard97: I talked to Rok after you went to bed
      [1:57:15 PM] Kali 666: yes i'm listening to it right now
      [1:57:17 PM] Wyzard97: He seems much calmer now
      [1:57:25 PM] Kali 666: yes he is
      [1:57:47 PM] Wyzard97: He was impressed with James too and how he was interested in the Thuban data
      [1:58:12 PM] Kali 666: right? yes i liked his willingness
      [1:58:12 PM] Wyzard97: Btw I found out something very very potent about our history and how it all began
      [1:58:28 PM] Kali 666: and he was truly curious
      [1:58:31 PM] Wyzard97: Remember when we all met on old PA?
      [1:58:35 PM] Kali 666: yes
      [1:58:42 PM] Wyzard97: When was this Xeia?
      [1:59:08 PM] Kali 666: about Christmas 2009 right?
      [1:59:29 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and you remember my first post as Abraxasinas when Thuban was born?
      [1:59:49 PM] Kali 666: of course
      [1:59:59 PM] Wyzard97: And the date I stipulated as to WHEN the true Logos 'would take over' from me?
      [2:00:08 PM] Wyzard97: Lol
      [2:00:19 PM] Wyzard97: Wait I refresh your memory
      [2:00:49 PM] Wyzard97: This is potent and is related to Raven's Dream about he beginnings and endings
      [2:00:50 PM] Kali 666: i think you mentioned it on that post no?
      [2:00:58 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it is evidence
      [2:01:07 PM] Wyzard97: I dig this part
      [2:01:47 PM] Wyzard97: [7:38:13 AM]
      Sirius 17: i was tested on the image before the image, but ummm the test was so easy all i had to do was copy down the instructors words, the whole entire page lol
      [7:38:17 AM] Sirius 17: hey Rok
      [7:39:04 AM] Sirius 17: so it was weird this dream, it was like the Logos wants me to remember it and record it in my memory
      [7:39:22 AM] Sirius 17: but in the dream it was words on a page
      [7:39:42 AM] Hades 88: what was written?
      [7:40:29 AM] Sirius 17: just words, i don't remember them really it was strange, they could of been any words is the feeling I got
      [7:41:59 AM] Sirius 17: i only remember the last line really, it was something like, and this is the begining of all things and who you really are as a twin of all things.
      [7:42:17 AM] Sirius 17: and the end had the begining
      [7:43:12 AM] Sirius 17: the instructor giving it was this sexy anatomy instructor from the campus, his name is Phil lol
      [7:43:40 AM] Sirius 17: hottie lol
      [7:43:57 AM] Hades 88: a real life person u know?
      [2:02:06 PM] Wyzard97: Look at Raven's Dream and then relate what i have to share

      [2:02:30 PM] Kali 666: http://www.birthofgaia.com/t116-abraxas-thuban-qa#1062

      [2:02:46 PM] Kali 666: that's the first post
      [2:04:44 PM] Wyzard97: The Occult Reptilian Agenda and the Council of Thuban
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Hi All!
      I am Sirebard Beardris and One of the Founding Elders of the Council of Thuban also known as the Northstar Alpha Draconis at the archetypical foundation of the Pyramids at Giza and the Harmakhis, the 'Horus of the Horizon' aka the Sphinx.
      You may accept an extrapolated 'Gregorian' date for this as July 27th, 10,802 BC and as the midpoint between two nodal dates (in that calendar) of March 1st, 23,615 BC and December 21st, 2012 AD.
      Not much has hitherto been known in any lower dimensions about the Council of Thuban.
      An indirect reference to the locale of the Council of Thuban has been made by the Council of Andromeda through a contact known by you as Alex Collier and I shall elaborate in due course.
      I am introducing myself here from the 12th dimension, that is I do not reside in the physical universe of space and time, but I shall enter this universe simultaneously with the transformation of this planet of the cosmic humanoids called Earth or Gaia or Terra or Akashia, but known as Serpentina the Mother of the Dragons, by many extraterrestrial sentiences.
      This transformation will rip the spacetime as you know it in the collected information base of this planet converging in a Black Hole at the Earth's center and render this information 'collapsed' or concentrated in a crystalline Gaian Schwarzschild core the size of a golfball so 3 centimeters across.
      This will create a temporary rift in spacetime, which will allow a 12-dimensional wormhole to open up at the center of the Earth and connect the Gaian data core to the 'until then' relative 'outside' of this 11-dimensional universe.
      This then is whereby the Council of Thuban and I shall enter this universe.
      A mystery regarding the 'oldest creator race' in the universe and of those 12-density Black Holes encompassing all the lower dimensions was indicated by the Andromedean information given to Alex Collier.
      After the wormhole has been tunnelled, this rip in spacetime will reglue or reconnect itself in rendering the 'inside-outside' higher-dimensional spacetime matrix from twosided to onesided. This will effectively double the universe's volume as a 3-dimensional surface or Riemannian hypersphere manifold.
      The mathematical description for this is a Moebius-Twist embedded in 3D simulating a Klein-Bottle-Twist embedded in 4D.
      This scenario is known to most of you here as the 'Ascension of Gaia' from the 4th (Flat Minkowski) spacetime dimension into the 5th (Curved Kaluza-Klein) spacetime dimension.
      My agenda to invite all and any of you to this forum is a direct consequence of the timeline indicated above reaching particular nexus points.
      To be precise, January 18th, 2010 specifies a trigger, programmed by the Council of Thuban, to engage in the release of hitherto unknown information; unknown by all sentiences in the universe and so not restricted to the quarantined Earth.
      Allow me to clarify.
      7 days (of night-day hours say) before the Atlantean-Egyptian timeline above became programmed into run mode on March 1st, 23615 BC; a 'message' or signal was prepared by Hunab Ku - 'The Giver of Consciousness' to be sent to his 'Beloved' - 'Serpentina, the Womb of the Mother'.
      This message, in human terms, simply reads: "I Love You!".
      In physical terms Hunab Ku is a quasar radio source, also known as Sagittarius A*, 'weighing' about 4 million suns and so 40 million kilometers (or 2 light minutes) across and about 25627 lightyears distant from the core of the Earth.
      On January 18th, 2010 this message will be 153 lightweeks or 1071 lightdays from the Gaian center, having travelled for 25624 years to reach its destination.
      The 7 day preparation of the cycle to achieve the status of the run mode so will be mirrored in 7 days to change the 7-day cyclicity of 7 days and 7 nights into two periods of 3.5 daynights and 3.5 nightdays.
      This will 'fulfil' many of your encoded 'prophecies' and 'channelings' in divers scrolls and found in many sources.
      The midpoint of this 'superweek' then is the summer solstice of December 21st, 2012 in the northern hemisphere of Gaia as the 'week of preparation' leading to Christmas Day December 25th, 2012.
      precisely.
      There has been much speculation about 'Reptilian agendas' and the agenda of the Alpha Draconians or ADs throughout the human history.
      Much of this confusion derives from the 'hidden data' only known by the Council of Thuban.
      So many conflicting reports have surfaced, most of which contain some material correlated with the libraries of Thuban; but all of them deficient to encompass the agenda behind the agendas.
      In brief, because the ADs have forgotten their origins, yet seemingly being the oldest race of intelligences in the universe; they have become what you may term 'paranoid' about this 'rumour' that the humans are the Paa Taal (as defined by the Andromedean Council).
      The ADs did in fact hybridise with the first onset of the genetic templates which emerged so 20 million years ago in the Miocene and in the form of the evolutionary branching of the primates into the 'Old World Monkeys'.
      This genetic hybridisation inducted physical mutations from the reptilian brainstem of the pecylosaurs (or paramammals), which comprised furred reptilians as the mutations from the dinosaur lineages.
      This hybridisation via mutations by the ADs occured from the intersection of the higher dimensional triplicities, especially a 4D-spacetime continuum known as quantumspace.
      1-2-3-4=Linespace with timeconnector 4; 4-5-6-7=Hyperspace with timeconnector 7; 7-8-9-10=Quantumspace with timeconnector 10.
      The activation of the 12th dimension indicated then superposes 10-11-12-13=Omnispace with the timeconnector 13 recircularising the base dimensional continuum in 1=13.
      The genetic basis for the humanoid DNA/RNA template so utilized timeconnector dimension 7 of Quantumspace to ACTIVATE timeconnector dimension 4 of Linespace to superimpose the genetic hybridisation.
      In simplistic terms then, the Old World Monkeys and all of their evolutionary descendants are your ancestral children.
      From January 18th, I have obtained authorization to freely share the information from the collective database of Thuban; which as a physical Northern Polar Star of the 3rd dimension of 10808 BC is imaged as a metaphysical 'Southern Polar Star' into the 12th dimension of what you may understand as the 'Shadow Universe' to the materialised inertial one you and all the extraterrestrial intelligences reside in.
      Then you may allow yourself to understand, that the 'Shadow Council of Thuban' also mirrors what many of you term the 'Shadow Government' of Earth and similar labellings.
      Some of you may also now rather quickly realise the agenda of agendas.
      Hunab Ku aka Perseus aka Ouroboros, the Milky Way Serpent 'who swallows its own tail' is a 'Bridegroom' in expectation of his 'Bride'.
      In physical terms, Hunab Ku desires to become a parent in a celestial dragonomy, the heavenly wedding between galactic bodyforms.
      Hunab Ku is the center of ALL galaxies and the Maya knew his substitution of Perseus, the real name of the Milky Way.
      Perseus will dragonomize Andromeda in about 5 billion years in the celestial galactic symbiosis of Two Spiral galaxies becoming As One Elliptical galaxy and Grandparents for many a family of celestial civilizations.
      The masterplan so engages a temporary 'place holder' of the 'Source of All', the 'All That Is' or 'God' to employ Perseus as Hunab Ku, the Secret Agency with Kukulkan, the Cosmic Christ and the Plumed Serpent Melchizedek to transmit the galactic core information from the 'Father of All' to the 'Mother of All'.
      [2:06:26 PM] Wyzard97: Now can you see it - Gaia is NOT a planetary consciousness; Gaia is NOT even a star consciousness - Gaia is GALACTIC Consciousness mimicking the Andromedean consciousness as a 'divine placeholder'.
      Even more, as 'Hunab Ku's' Beloved, Gaia will be able to transform her galactic consciousness into Cosmic-Universal Consciousness through and by the opening of the 12th dimension and our entry into universal consciousness as the creator race of the universes as something I shall label for the moment as the Council of Thuban.
      You all are very intricately connected to this council, but the time is not yet to elucidate too many details on this.
      The reason for this is simply that the student in grade 1 is not expected to learn calculus before the student has learned basic arithmetic.
      Publishing too much information all at once, will overload the human mind.
      But from January 18th, I shall answer all questions to the best of my ability and subject to accessing the Thuban libraries.
      In simplest term the planet of the humans is destined to become the 'Mother of All', all terrestrial and extraterrestrial lifeforms and consciousnesses.
      Perhaps, some of you now understand why the history of humanity upon Gaia has been such a troubled, violent and often very sad one, despite the brilliance of creativity which was born from many sorrows and afflictions.
      If Gaia is to become a library as how NOT to BE a galactic civilisation; then the great sacrifice of Gaia was and is to accomodate the context of the absence of love for ALL other galactic civilisations to learn from.
      Then a student in some other starsystem or galaxy can tune into some video transmission and watch the human wars and selfabuse to learn the lessons WITHOUT having to physically experience those lessons 'the hard way'.
      I herewith invite all and any of you to bring forward your queries about origins and destiny and the ponderings you may have harboured on this forum in a Question and Answer format.
      I will do my best to accomodate your queries in consulting the libraries and data bases of Thuban.
      The following link contains much of the 'confusing' information about the 'Occult Reptilian Agenda' and serves as an excellent reference base, including my indication of the Andromedean connection.
      Anyone who read this, might already understand how Perseus and Andromeda are connected in their Council of the Elders.

      http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/su...tiles.htm#menu

      In the Honour of the Dragons
      Sirebard Beardris
      76+76=152=97+55=SERPENTHEAVEN=PRESENT CLOUD= SONOFMAN SONG=LOVECIRCLE OF A GOD

      The Overworld of Shamballa the Underworld of Agartha and the Extraworld of the Eage of Thuban.

      [2:06:34 PM] Wyzard97: xxx
      [2:06:46 PM] Wyzard97: This part mentions January 18th, 2010, see this?
      [2:06:49 PM] Wyzard97: xxx
      [2:07:31 PM] Wyzard97: [2:04 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< From January 18th, I have obtained authorization to freely share the information from the collective database of Thuban; which as a physical Northern Polar Star of the 3rd dimension of 10808 BC is imaged as a metaphysical 'Southern Polar Star' into the 12th dimension of what you may understand as the 'Shadow Universe' to the materialised inertial one you and all the extraterrestrial intelligences reside in.
      Then you may allow yourself to understand, that the 'Shadow Council of Thuban' also mirrors what many of you term the 'Shadow Government' of Earth and similar labellings.
      Some of you may also now rather quickly realise the agenda of agendas.
      xxx
      [2:08:01 PM] Wyzard97: I joined Old PA on December 25th, 2009 - Xmas day
      [2:08:28 PM] Wyzard97: Then I posted this introduction on January 4th, 2010
      [2:09:13 PM] Wyzard97: Now you know or Raven does anyhow, that there must be 1260 days of 'Testimony' to complete the timelines as addressed in this post
      [2:10:07 PM] Wyzard97: These 1260 days are about 3½ years and must be followed by 3½ days of the completion of the timeline
      [2:10:40 PM] Kali 666: oh wow
      [2:10:55 PM] Wyzard97: So you can mirror this and start the UNOFFICAL Thuban data stream on New Year's day 2010 as January 4th minus the 3½ days
      [2:11:17 PM] Wyzard97: It gets much better and this is ALL OF US in the Logos authority no less than that
      [2:11:51 PM] Kali 666: you knew it then and you wrote it then
      [2:12:53 PM] Kali 666: then it is as if the script kept getting re-edited as we went along
      [2:15:24 PM] Wyzard97: Add 1260 days to January 1st, 2010 and you get June 14th, 2013
      [2:16:20 PM] Wyzard97: So now add the 3½ days agaian from the start and you get June 17th, 2013 which is of course the end date of this superchart 18 days from July 4th, 2013 as the Day of Cosmic Independence
      [2:16:49 PM] Wyzard97: Those 18 days so are the difference between New Years Day 2010 and the noted date of the Logos of January 18th, 2010
      [2:17:18 PM] Wyzard97: So this means we shall have completed the collective assignment exactly when this superchart says it should as the
      [2:17:32 PM] Wyzard97: TESTIMONY OF THE COUNCIL OF THUBAN
      [2:17:57 PM] Wyzard97: Not human authorised or invented, but as stated, by the Cosmic all encompassing Logos itself
      [2:19:06 PM] Wyzard97: This PROVES our validity and 'explains' somewhat all those dramas we have suffered not only on our own behalf but for and by the higher cosmic divinely augmented and overseen agenda
      [2:19:30 PM] Kali 666: :)
      [2:19:43 PM] Kali 666: i was thinking of our beginnings today too
      [2:19:43 PM] Wyzard97: This will explain Raven's Dream of last night to her
      [2:20:01 PM] Wyzard97: I dont think you see the enormity of this yet dear.
      [2:20:24 PM] Wyzard97: It shows that what is behind us is not human minded but the cosmic divinity
      [2:20:36 PM] Kali 666: well i always knew it was
      [2:20:56 PM] Wyzard97: It is NOT Thuban, they have ridiculed and rejected, it was their own cosmic legacies and inheritances
      [2:21:25 PM] Kali 666: indeed
      [2:21:43 PM] Wyzard97: I will share this on the forum as a record and add this to the superchart
      [2:22:08 PM] *** Kali 666 sent P1050971.JPG ***
      [2:24:09 PM] Wyzard97: Nice I add this pic of yours to the post
      [3:36:01 PM] Wyzard97: BTW Sui guess when the parallel timeline starts, which is the date of publishing this post on January 4th, 2010
      [3:36:02 PM] Wyzard97: This is the 265 Gestation offset running through the entire superchart
      [3:38:17 PM] Wyzard97: This date might mean something to you lol
      [3:38:23 PM] Wyzard97: April 14th, 2009
      [3:38:39 PM] Wyzard97: Rok's 26th birthday
      [3:38:55 PM] Wyzard97: Add 265 days of 'cosmic pregnancy' to April 14th, 2009 and you will get January 4th, 2010, the Day of the Inauguration of the Thuban logo
      [3:47:28 PM] Wyzard97: I was expecting Rok's day to show up somewhere significant. Well, it shows up right at the beginning of the Council of Thuban
      [4:04:50 PM] Kali 666: [3:37 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< April 14th, 2009

      Rok's 26th birthdayOMG
      [4:05:04 PM] Kali 666: i just saw this
      [4:05:56 PM] Kali 666: my Skype is not alerting me of new entries for some reason
      [4:07:32 PM] Wyzard97: I thought you would like this.
      [4:07:40 PM] Kali 666: yes i do
      [4:07:55 PM] Kali 666: and it feels right
      [4:08:00 PM] Kali 666: appropriate
      [4:08:08 PM] Kali 666: that it would be like this
      [4:08:14 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Rok's gestation BEFORE he met you
      [4:08:35 PM] Wyzard97: I am editing the chart
      [4:09:02 PM] Kali 666: i think we met on March 4th, 2010
      [4:10:18 PM] Kali 666: but i could be wrong
      [4:10:29 PM] Kali 666: he might know the exact date
      [4:12:31 PM] Kali 666: oh no
      [4:13:00 PM] Kali 666: he wrote his Synopsis on March 5th
      [4:13:15 PM] Kali 666: and i responded to it the next day
      [4:14:02 PM] Kali 666: so the first time we chatted off forum had to be that day
      [4:14:08 PM] Kali 666: March 6th
      [4:16:45 PM] Kali 666: http://www.birthofgaia.com/t171-the-council-of-thuban#2454
      i liked his Avatar a lot
      [4:47:37 PM] Wyzard97: Those dates are early and part of a 315 cycle, which you can detail yourself. The chart is added now to this post.
      Kali666
      http://thuban.spruz.com/gfile/75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!g10Boy7r72y1nq/add.jpg

      add.

      thubansand.
      dracow. thuban55. 15564_10_(2).

      [5:15:39 PM] Sirius 17: really fantastic the link with Jan 18th and the start of Thuban Tony
      [5:16:34 PM] Wyzard97:
      http://www.birthofgaia.com/t236p15-conversations-on-the-cosmic-reconfiguration-of-symbols-and-archetypes#3480

      [5:16:37 PM] Wyzard97: I know
      [5:17:16 PM] Wyzard97: This is amazing validation and I would like to know what Raven makes of it
      [5:18:50 PM] Sirius 17: begining and endings all right and you were on fire last night Tony
      [5:19:11 PM] Wyzard97: I was exhausted at the end of it
      [5:19:34 PM] Sirius 17: yes i could see that, well we all were, but the energy was keeping us going
      [5:19:47 PM] Wyzard97: Your dream?
      [5:20:15 PM] Sirius 17: well it was as i said, the test was just copying down that page word for word
      [5:20:32 PM] Wyzard97: Is this your course or your dream?
      [5:20:48 PM] Sirius 17: the page was about the begining and the end and the image before the image
      [5:20:58 PM] Sirius 17: it was my dream
      [5:21:08 PM] Wyzard97: Oh good, I was getting confused
      [5:21:43 PM] Sirius 17: well the dream was interwoven with my school and a professor i know there so yeah it was strange
      [5:21:51 PM] Sirius 17: but it was all the dream
      [5:22:14 PM] Sirius 17: i kept telling myself the last lines before i woke up
      [5:22:29 PM] Sirius 17: i knew it was a message and confirmation
      [5:22:39 PM] Wyzard97: Well this one blew me a bit
      [5:22:59 PM] Wyzard97: The exact witessing period in Rev.11, Zechariah.4 and Daniel.12
      [5:23:20 PM] Wyzard97: And finally Rok's birthday showed up most pertinently
      [5:23:36 PM] Wyzard97: His birthday becomes his gnosis event
      [5:23:46 PM] Sirius 17: interesting yeah
      [5:23:56 PM] Sirius 17: and powerful
      [5:23:46 PM] Sirius 17: interesting yeah
      [5:23:56 PM] Sirius 17: and powerful
      [5:25:17 PM] Sirius 17: also and i am reluctant to admit this, my dream and the last few or so have been telling me about my death
      [5:25:42 PM] Sirius 17: and i am not sure its just symbolic although i think so
      [5:26:27 PM] Kali 666: maybe it's just your 3D self what "dies"
      [5:27:06 PM] Sirius 17: yes i don't know, its like a warning or preparation of sorts
      [5:27:13 PM] Kali 666: for ressurection
      [5:28:04 PM] Kali 666: ascension
      [5:28:05 PM] Sirius 17: i have been sad all day, really emotional
      [5:28:36 PM] Wyzard97: Well Raven this is just what this chart says here, look closely
      [5:29:08 PM] Wyzard97: It says that at the end of the 1260 days, which is June 17th, 2013 the witnesses die but are not really dead
      [5:29:25 PM] Wyzard97: And this will be all of us, not just you
      [5:29:29 PM] Sirius 17: yes and i woke up today feeling like i might die .....again
      [5:29:49 PM] Sirius 17: with this feeling of impending doom
      [5:30:25 PM] Wyzard97: And this is totally appropriate
      [5:30:31 PM] Wyzard97: I am getting the code
      [5:30:38 PM] Sirius 17: its been happening to me the last few weeks or so
      [5:30:44 PM] Kali 666: yes but impending "doom" doesn't mean your death
      [5:31:04 PM] Wyzard97: No the code says it looks like dead but is not
      [5:31:14 PM] Kali 666: yes exactly
      [5:31:48 PM] Sirius 17: why am i so sad
      [5:33:31 PM] Sirius 17: i dont know what i am mourning seriously
      [5:33:58 PM] Sirius 17: but i am super sensative today and a big cry baby
      [5:34:13 PM] Kali 666: maybe it's the same feeling i've also had for a few days now
      [5:34:21 PM] Kali 666: of being unanchored
      [5:34:33 PM] Kali 666: sort of like an orphan
      [5:38:22 PM] Sirius 17: thank you for the sand pic xeia
      [5:38:40 PM] Kali 666: i wanted to make it prettier but
      [5:38:54 PM] Kali 666: the waves came too fast
      [5:38:58 PM] Wyzard97: The biblesite wont load
      [5:39:28 PM] Wyzard97: www.biblegateway.com
      [5:39:35 PM] Wyzard97: Can you get this ?
      [5:39:37 PM] Sirius 17: i like the one you did for Thuban too
      [5:39:47 PM] Sirius 17: yes
      [5:39:50 PM] Wyzard97: Yes I added this to the post
      [5:39:51 PM] Kali 666: it loaded for me yes
      [5:40:08 PM] Sirius 17: yes it works for me too
      [5:42:11 PM] Wyzard97:


      Revelation 11 King James Version (KJV)


      1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

      2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

      3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

      4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

      5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

      6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

      7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

      8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

      9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

      10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

      11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

      12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

      13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

      14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.



      [5:42:23 PM] Wyzard97: This applies to all true Thubans
      [6:22:56 PM] Hades 88: [5:23 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< And finally Rok's birthday showed up most pertinently
      His birthday becomes his gnosis event

      humdidium? things will clear out for me by then?
      [6:24:12 PM] Wyzard97: April 14th, 2009 was your alphaomega
      [6:24:28 PM] Wyzard97: Before you knew anything about this dragon stuff
      [6:24:46 PM] Hades 88: amm besides reptilian yada yada no i did not
      [6:24:55 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.birthofgaia.com/t236p15-...econfiguration-of-symbols-and-archetypes#3480
      [7:32:35 PM] Hades 88:

      Daniel had an interesting dream:

      [8:04:23] Xeia: i was talking to Daniel
      [8:04:31] Xeia: he had a dream about the Shift
      [8:04:38] Xeia: awesome dream
      [8:04:50] Rok: did u tell it to others?
      [8:05:01] Xeia: but he is scared to sleep in his bed since a few days ago
      [8:05:17] Rok: why
      [8:05:19] Xeia: so he asked me if he could sleep in the sofabed again tonight
      [8:05:32] Xeia: he says "something" wakes him up
      [8:05:56] Xeia: so he asked me to just...go lay there with him
      [8:06:07] Xeia: and so him and me were laying there on the sofa bed talking
      [8:06:24] Xeia: and he wanted to tell me about this awesome dream he had
      [8:06:35] Xeia: he saw a huge Ship too
      [8:06:48] Xeia: maybe tomorrow i'll ask him to draw it
      [8:07:03] Rok: somethng wakes him up?
      [8:07:24] Xeia: he saw how the energy of the Earth compressed into a small point in it's core and then expanded outwards
      [8:07:35] Rok: like tony said
      [8:07:38] Rok: u should tell it to tony
      [8:07:46] Xeia: making a SUPER HUGE ray of light/explosion...or something
      [8:07:53] Xeia: like a Supernova exploding
      [8:08:09] Xeia: yes i completely forgot about it
      [8:08:28] Xeia: but now i'm really sleepy...i should really be going to bed now
      [8:08:37] Rok: oh
      [8:08:38] Rok: ok
      [8:08:38] Xeia: i have to wake up at 7
      [8:08:50] Rok: sweet dreams
      [8:08:53] Xeia: horrible sleep i'm getting
      [8:09:14] Xeia: he saw the people being taken up
      [8:09:41] Xeia: then he saw everything on Earth more vibrant
      [8:09:54] Xeia: like it looked different...prettier
      [8:09:59] Xeia: more alive
      [8:10:01] Xeia: shinnier
      [8:10:28] Xeia: oh and he also mentioned a black sun
      [8:10:51] Xeia: apparently he had alredy tol dmy parents yesterday when they took him fishing
      [8:11:30] Xeia: and my mom asked me if i had been talking to him lately or if i had in any waytalked to him about any of these ideas
      [8:11:35] Xeia: but i haven't
      [8:12:17] Xeia: i was in Jersey and then after that we didn't talk about that...just his grades and school related stuff
      [8:12:42] Xeia: it was my mom who told me to pay attention to his dreams
      [8:13:03] Rok: DONT pull ur stiches
      [8:13:08] Xeia: ussually he likes to just go tell her his dreams and not me
      [8:13:16] Xeia: oh but they bug me!
      [8:13:25] Rok: hands off the stiches
      [8:13:26] Xeia: they pinch my clothes n stuff
      [8:13:32] Xeia: aaargh
      [8:13:33] Rok: ur clothes will survive
      [8:13:40] Xeia: and the itchy feeling?
      [8:14:03] Xeia: you know...something "there"... to pick on....
      [8:14:20] Xeia: i'm a cat you know? i can't resist
      [8:14:25] Xeia: it's not my fault
      [8:14:40] Rok: let them be
      [8:14:53] Xeia: ayy ay ayy mamasitaaa!
      [8:14:58] Xeia: ok me go now
      [8:15:03] Xeia: chaito
      [8:15:10] Rok: caw
      [7:33:58 PM] Sirius 17: nice dream of Daniels
      [7:34:06 PM] Sirius 17: seems to fit too

      [7:34:41 PM] Hades 88: [6:23 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< April 14th, 2009 was your alphaomega
      Before you knew anything about this dragon stuff

      aha yes i read the chats now...i was hoping the comming one might be of some significance
      [7:35:28 PM] Sirius 17: yes all of our birthdays are significant sweety, yours no exception
      [7:35:51 PM] Sirius 17: our birthdays all define events in this timeline
      [7:37:59 PM] Sirius 17: i will go to bed now though, have a nice day Rok and Tony
      [7:38:15 PM] Sirius 17: (F)(heart)(F)
      [7:38:38 PM] Hades 88: work, work
      [7:38:38 PM] Hades 88: gn
      [7:38:51 PM] Sirius 17: noches
      Kali 666

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 11th 2013


    • JesterTerrestrial - Posted 10 Hours Ago

      Hey everybody... whats good! I have been banned from skype for a few weeks now as I was debating a few people on one of the main truthseekers chats I was a member of and when it really got good and i was crushing them my account was logged out...now when I try to load skype I only see the loading bar and the only option on the file menu is close! It also uses up my computers resources and slows it down to a crawl. i have tried reinstalling the software 2 or 3 times. Anyway... 2012 has come and gone and OMG!!! WHAT A SMASH!!!

      Talk about turning this place inside out or is it out side in grin. haha well was just brewing up a batch of magic in the cosmic kitchen and am now witnessing the dimensional blending and I can tell you the pressure inside the gates is OUT OF THIS WORLD!!! I can feel the humans reaching and clawing at the doors but they are not able to get in because they do not have the KEYS AND CODES!!!

      Anyway working on the next smash and I still say we should have a COUNCIL OF THUBAN CONFERENCE!!! Soon as we get this PAYDAY thing under control I will let you know more but omg the OVEN IS HOT!!!

      Dont forget to get you crystals out and squeeze them!!! lol and watch the magic in action!!! PEACE MERLIN JT! MAAT IFFW 2013 - 2017 mad.


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      Excellent UFO videos JT and the timelines are indeed closing in rapidly, as you can see in the post just above this one.
      It describes the period in January 2010; when we all met at the old PA forum and shows a 3½ year timeframe to July 4th, 2013, which indicates a 'Independence Day' for all true dragons in a way. We shall have to be patient and wait and see how this new Logos dispensation will manifest in the new spacetime matrix now on its way to a fuller manifestation.
      Well done, and keep up your enthusiasm and vigour regarding the one and only 'true contact', which should draw nearer by the day and could very well become manifest in 2013/2014 and as the improving quality of the ufos shows in the now expanded 4-dimensional timespace.
      Take Care, your dragon brother Tonyblue

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    Shiloh Za-Rah - Posted Feb 11th 2013

    Pope Benedict to resign: Italian media
    • Pope Benedict XVI is set to resign as leader of the Catholic Church, according to media reports out of Italy.
      Pope Benedict announced he will resign on February 28, a Vatican spokesman told AFP, which will make him the first pope to do so in centuries.
      "The Pope announced that he will leave his ministry at 8:00pm (local time) on February 28," said the spokesman, Federico Lombardi.
      The 85-year-old pontiff says his strength no longer adequate to continue in office due to his advanced age.
      "After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry," he said in a statement.
      "For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter," he said according to a statement from the Vatican.
      The Pope says after he retires he wants to devotedly serve the Church through a life dedicated to prayer.
      A Vatican official says the period between Pope Benedict's resignation and the election of a successor should be "as brief as possible".
      The full statement from Pope Benedict XVI:
      "Dear Brothers,

      I have convoked you to this Consistory, not only for the three canonizations, but also to communicate to you a decision of great importance for the life of the Church. After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering. However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the bark of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is.
      Dear Brothers, I thank you most sincerely for all the love and work with which you have supported me in my ministry and I ask pardon for all my defects. And now, let us entrust the Holy Church to the care of Our Supreme Pastor, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and implore his holy Mother Mary, so that she may assist the Cardinal Fathers with her maternal solicitude, in electing a new Supreme Pontiff. With regard to myself, I wish to also devotedly serve the Holy Church of God in the future through a life dedicated to prayer.
      From the Vatican, 10 February 2013

      [10:27:42 PM] Hades 88: Pope Benedict XVI to resign
      [10:27:49 PM] Hades 88: http://rt.com/news/pope-benedict-resign-vatican-921/
      [10:31:15 PM] Hades 88: symbolic? inner power stuggle?
      [10:31:29 PM] Hades 88: The 85 year old is due to step down on February the 28th.
      [10:31:39 PM] Hades 88: the last day before March
      [10:33:22 PM] Hades 88: Papal conclave not planned till the end of March (given the current press releases)
      [10:33:37 PM] Hades 88: so for the entire month of March (or longer) the "throne of Vatican" will be empty
      [10:38:51 PM] Wyzard97: Pope Benedict to resign: Italian media
      Updated 6 minutes ago
      Photo: Pope Benedict XVI will reportedly retire due to health reasons. (Max Rossi: Reuters)
      Map: Holy See (Vatican City State)
      Pope Benedict XVI is set to resign as leader of the Catholic Church, according to media reports out of Italy.
      Pope Benedict announced he will resign on February 28, a Vatican spokesman told AFP, which will make him the first pope to do so in centuries.
      "The Pope announced that he will leave his ministry at 8:00pm (local time) on February 28," said the spokesman, Federico Lombardi.
      The 85-year-old pontiff says his strength no longer adequate to continue in office due to his advanced age.
      "After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry," he said in a statement.
      "For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter," he said according to a statement from the Vatican.
      The Pope says after he retires he wants to devotedly serve the Church through a life dedicated to prayer.
      A Vatican official says the period between Pope Benedict's resignation and the election of a successor should be "as brief as possible".

      The full statement from Pope Benedict XVI:
      "Dear Brothers,

      I have convoked you to this Consistory, not only for the three canonizations, but also to communicate to you a decision of great importance for the life of the Church. After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering. However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the bark of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is.
      Dear Brothers, I thank you most sincerely for all the love and work with which you have supported me in my ministry and I ask pardon for all my defects. And now, let us entrust the Holy Church to the care of Our Supreme Pastor, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and implore his holy Mother Mary, so that she may assist the Cardinal Fathers with her maternal solicitude, in electing a new Supreme Pontiff. With regard to myself, I wish to also devotedly serve the Holy Church of God in the future through a life dedicated to prayer.
      From the Vatican, 10 February 2013
      BENEDICTUS PP XVI"

      [10:40:08 PM-Monday, February 11th, 2013 -+11UCT]
      Hades 88:
      your thoughts on this?
      [10:40:29 PM] Wyzard97: I am preparing something
      [10:40:58 PM] Wyzard97: This is just as the timeline indicates as the Last Pope according to Malachi and Nostradamus etc
      [10:41:06 PM] Wyzard97: It is breaking mainstream news now
      [10:41:32 PM] Hades 88: did u not say once the last pope is nonsense?
      [10:41:53 PM] Hades 88: petrus romanus stuff
      [10:42:05 PM] Hades 88: or was it how they presented it
      [10:42:21 PM] Wyzard97: I said that the last pope will be the end of conventional Christinity
      [10:42:37 PM] Wyzard97: As said it is already posted I am digging it up
      [10:42:46 PM] Wyzard97: It is with the ISON comet I recall
      [10:43:19 PM] Hades 88: conspiracy circles going crazy in 5,4,3,2,1...
      [10:43:46 PM] Wyzard97: Of course
      [10:53:23 PM] Hades 88: "Peter the Roman", whose pontificate will end in the destruction of the city of Rome
      proly the destruction of church as an institution
      [10:58:30 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the link is here:
      http://www.thuban.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&fid=&lastp=1&id=06956F28-2037-4228-9806-65DCE75D40ED

      3½+57+3½=64

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      57=MARY=BIRTH=MOON=ROSE=GEMINI=EROS||LIFECELL=ISRAEL=PETER=PACIFICAP=64
      75=ANDROMEDA=LUCIFERA=SHARON=JESUSA=MARRY||DOVE=BODY=ROM=46


      Matthew 24:30 - KJV

      And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.




      Comet ISON, Passing In 2013, Could Be Brighter Than Moon


      Posted: September 27, 2012​


      [11:08:07 PM] Hades 88: comet Ison as the fameouse sign 8 days before?
      [11:08:37 PM] Wyzard97: Nono these are just symbolics
      [11:09:25 PM] Wyzard97: Ison is on about November-December, but this resignation fits into the March thingy of Xeia and March 25th as the End of the Armageddon Period
      [11:10:10 PM] Hades 88: so this is like the end of an era then? with pope gone and March start?
      [11:10:15 PM] Wyzard97: Armageddon is on from February 8th-9th see and this resignation is dated February 10th
      [11:10:29 PM] Wyzard97: I mean the 45 day period of the Dragon Made
      [11:10:50 PM] Hades 88: [11:09 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< this resignation is dated February 10th
      did he not say 28th at 8pm?

      [11:10:58 PM] Wyzard97: This is preceded by 25+10=35 days of preparations as outlined in the 70 days of Babylon from January 14th
      [11:11:17 PM] Wyzard97: Not his resignation, his letter, Rok
      [11:11:34 PM] Wyzard97: [10:38 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< From the Vatican, 10 February 2013

      [11:12:07 PM] Hades 88: ah the announcement
      [11:12:17 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [11:12:37 PM] Wyzard97: I wonder if they take this 'prophecy' more serious than openly admitted lol
      [11:13:10 PM] Wyzard97: Instead of waiting for him to die, they 'replace' him
      [11:14:11 PM] Hades 88: ur thoughts are the inner circles want to go along wih the events by making them help to happen?
      [11:16:11 PM] Hades 88: Beatrix announced to resign too not long ago
      [11:16:36 PM] Hades 88: next thing u know the queen of Englad will put out the same news
      [11:17:04 PM] Wyzard97: Could be Rok
      [11:17:23 PM] Wyzard97: It is sort of Logos related in any case though
      [11:17:58 PM] Wyzard97: The details are not that important, I mean the human mindedness 'behind' the decisions.
      [11:18:46 PM] Wyzard97: [11:10 PM] Hades 88:
      <<< so this is like the end of an era then? with pope gone and March start?
      This 'new start' was December 21st, 2012, which now allows many such developments

      [11:19:56 PM] Hades 88: do u think human decisions are influenced by metaphysical events of dec 21st?
      [11:20:15 PM] Wyzard97: Definitely
      But from the subconsious percentage, as discussed
      [11:22:33 PM] Hades 88: well bishop of Rome gone was surely not expected
      [11:22:44 PM] Hades 88: by me at least
      [11:23:22 PM] Wyzard97: Indeed, it came as a surprise to me too. I did expect him to die soon, but not resign
      [11:24:07 PM] Hades 88: prhaps he knows he is to die soon or lose the capacity for coherent thought - dementia etc
      [11:24:58 PM] Wyzard97: I believe him to be a rather intelligent man and a little independent in thought, relative to his successors and 'advisors'
      [11:25:22 PM] Wyzard97: He is no nabs 'reptoid' lol
      [11:26:10 PM] Hades 88: do u believe for him to be a good person?
      [11:27:17 PM] Wyzard97: In human terms yes
      [11:27:41 PM] Wyzard97: i dont believe in the papacy or its authority at all, nevertheless
      [11:28:30 PM] Hades 88: he has no ties to the wickedness in high places of Vatican?
      [11:29:04 PM] Wyzard97: I would say he knows of it in an unparticipatory way
      [11:29:23 PM] Hades 88: P2 lodge?
      [11:30:25 PM] Wyzard97: You should ask Susan or a nabser about this Rok, I really dont know or follow the conspiracy stuff
      [11:31:21 PM] Wyzard97: The Red Robes etc are as much part of the ptb 'secret societies' as they are linked to Jesuits and 'deviate bishops' or whatever
      [11:32:38 PM] Hades 88: i just find it a bit hard to believe pope would be a "good at heart" person
      [11:33:32 PM] Wyzard97: I dont really know what you mean with that label
      [11:34:18 PM] Wyzard97: I simply say, that he was a clergyman with a decent education, who 'went through the ranks' and was then chosen for this role, apparently against his will
      [11:34:46 PM] Hades 88: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due
      [11:35:03 PM] Wyzard97: I really dont know much about him, except that he is the 'last pope' before the 'true Peter' is said to return
      [11:35:58 PM] Hades 88: his education and all might be good, as is Obama's ....but they are both rotten and not where they are by "accident"
      [11:37:22 PM] Wyzard97: No of course not. It is like any political election - rigged and manipulated to serve more controlling agendas
      [11:37:56 PM] Wyzard97: But I refrain from judgement of the personal here; as said I dont give value to the papacy
      [11:40:02 PM] Hades 88: ok
      [11:40:42 PM] Wyzard97: This is of a deep archetypical significance to me Rok; but regarding the office and not the man
      [12:22:36 AM-Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 -+11UCT]
      Kali 666: very true
      [12:22:38 AM] Kali 666: the office
      [12:22:48 AM] Kali 666: and i am happy happy to hear this news
      [12:35:11 AM] Kali 666: i knew he was going to have a short term as prophesied
      [12:35:41 AM] Hades 88: easter will bring a new change?
      [12:36:55 AM] Kali 666: *grins*
      [12:37:33 AM] Hades 88: concalve time and all..i mean..amm..nothing
      [12:38:00 AM] Kali 666: new change is an understatement
      [12:46:02 AM] Kali 666:

      10. Peter the Roman - This final Pope will likely be Satan, taking the form of a man named Peter who will gain a worldwide allegiance and adoration. He will be the final antichrist which prophecy students have long foretold. If it were possible, even the very elect would be deceived. The 112th prophesy states: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

      [12:46:32 AM] Kali 666: it might be that this was read wrong
      [12:46:50 AM] Kali 666:

      "In the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit [i.e., as bishop].
      Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations:
      and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed,
      and the terrible judge will judge his people.
      The End. "


      [12:47:10 AM] Kali 666: i don't think there will be another Pope
      [12:47:32 AM] Kali 666: or more like..(i hope there won't be)
      [12:47:46 AM] Kali 666: this "terrible judge" may not be "Satan"
      [12:47:58 AM] Kali 666: but the Christ himself
      [12:48:34 AM] Hades 88: Satan is this place u live in...sort of
      [12:48:41 AM] Kali 666: Maybe he was forced to stand down
      [12:48:55 AM] Kali 666: Satan is everything backwards
      [12:49:10 AM] Kali 666: a false idea but the energy exists
      [12:49:48 AM] Hades 88: i thought backward of satan is devil
      [12:50:08 AM] Kali 666: still, Vatican crumbling from the top and it happening NOW is excellent
      [12:50:39 AM] Kali 666: i mean Satan, as an entity, does not exist
      [12:51:03 AM] Kali 666: and the idea of the devil is the reverse of everythin that gives life
      [12:51:27 AM] Kali 666: that lives in each one anyway
      [12:52:07 AM] Kali 666: manifested in duality and all that
      [12:52:31 AM] Hades 88: [12:45 AM] Kali 666:
      <<< 10.
      this is from the bible?

      [12:52:53 AM] Kali 666: even Cayce predicted Ratzinger's short term
      [12:53:06 AM] Kali 666: no, it's from Malachi's prophesy
      [12:53:33 AM] Kali 666: [12:47 AM] Kali 666:
      <<< but the Christ himselfand i say this exclusively due to the timing itself

      [12:53:36 AM] Kali 666: nothing else, but "Peter the Roman" is also reference to the foundation...the "Rock" of the Church and not necessarily a person or in this case another Pope
      [12:54:25 AM] Hades 88: that is a metaphysical concept too and not a person
      [12:54:34 AM] Hades 88: at least not in today times
      [12:54:42 AM] Kali 666: what? The Christ?
      [12:55:19 AM] Hades 88: yes
      [12:55:54 AM] Kali 666: oh i know what his energy is and the Christ Consciousness and all that
      [12:56:16 AM] Kali 666: but to me he is more than just a concept
      [12:56:29 AM] Kali 666: i mean he is very much real
      [12:56:59 AM] Kali 666: he is bad ass and he is soon coming to kick some ass
      [12:57:00 AM] Kali 666: big time
      [12:57:19 AM] Kali 666: and i thank God that i am alive to witness all this
      [12:57:38 AM] Hades 88: the institution of a church should be dissolved
      [12:57:54 AM] Kali 666: Vatican with NO HEAD...are you kidding me?
      [12:58:08 AM] Kali 666: let's make a party!!!! (party)
      [1:00:31 AM] Kali 666: I think.....i think this Pope is RUNNING AWAY before what's coming
      [1:00:38 AM] Kali 666: haha
      [1:00:48 AM] Kali 666: oh he knows what's coming all right
      [1:00:50 AM] Kali 666: he KNOWS
      [4:41:09 AM] Kali 666: just found this:
      [4:41:10 AM] Kali 666:

      Nostradamus - Quatrains
      Century 2, Quatrain 41
      The great star will burn for seven days,
      The cloud will cause two suns to appear:
      The big mastiff will howl all night
      When the great pontiff will change country.


      [4:41:52 AM] Sirius 17: good morning
      [4:42:00 AM] Sirius 17: did tony go to bed?
      [4:42:55 AM] Kali 666:
      if what Don Alejandro said is true, it could also mean that by the end of March there will be great earthquakes and volcanic activity....if this is so, then Mount Vesuvius could erupt and the Pope will be fleeing Rome before this happens
      [4:43:17 AM] Kali 666: If the Vesuvius would erupt, pope Benedict would have to "flee" Rome (Naples-Rome distance : 144 km) this is predicted by Nostradamus.
      [4:43:26 AM] Sirius 17: i was going to ask him if Helen is better
      [4:43:41 AM] Kali 666: hi
      [4:43:45 AM] Sirius 17: hey
      [4:43:48 AM] Kali 666: haven't seen him yet
      [4:43:50 AM] Sirius 17:
      Rome (CNN) -- The spiritual leader of 1.2 billion Catholics, Pope Benedict XVI, surprised the world Monday by saying he will resign at the end of the month "because of advanced age."

      [4:44:01 AM] Sirius 17: yeah this is interesting in the timing
      [4:44:05 AM] Sirius 17: isn't it
      [4:44:11 AM] Kali 666: this "resignation" is fishy
      [4:44:29 AM] Sirius 17: the 'fake' is surrendering
      [4:44:36 AM] Kali 666:

      John of the Cleft Rock (14th Century)
      Towards the end of the world, tyrants and hostile mobs will rob the Church and the clergy of all their possessions and will afflict and martyr them. Those who heap the most abuse upon them will be held in high esteem. At that time, the Pope with his cardinals will have to flee Rome in tragic circumstances to a place where they will be unknown. The Pope will die a cruel death in his exile. The sufferings of the Church will be much greater than at any previous time in her history. But God will raise a holy Pope, and the Angels will rejoice. Enlightened by God, this man will rebuild almost the whole world through his holiness. He will lead everyone to the true Faith.


      [4:44:44 AM] Sirius 17: also coinciding on DDs birthday btw
      [4:44:49 AM] Sirius 17: 44
      [4:45:14 AM] Sirius 17:

      (44) Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in heaven."

      [4:45:44 AM] Kali 666: ok so it was known that this Pope was going to leave Rome
      [4:45:57 AM] Kali 666: the question now is...why
      [4:46:10 AM] Kali 666: and the time is also no coincidence
      [4:46:15 AM] Sirius 17: well think about it, the Catholic church has no real authority with the Logos
      [4:46:26 AM] Kali 666: ofc
      [4:46:32 AM] Sirius 17: it means they are powerless
      [4:46:39 AM] Sirius 17: and the real Logos is here
      [4:46:54 AM] Kali 666: yes yes
      [4:46:56 AM] Sirius 17: and claiming that authority
      [4:46:58 AM] Kali 666: that's not what i mean
      [4:47:09 AM] Kali 666: overall we already know that
      [4:47:23 AM] Kali 666: i am interested in knowing what i don't already know
      [4:47:48 AM] Kali 666: i am excited to see all this happening now
      [4:48:42 AM] Sirius 17: well the deeper significance is exactly what Tony quoted to us last night from Isaiah.....the real 'pope' peter is us and anyone else in resonance with the Logos
      [4:49:25 AM] Sirius 17: Revelations i mean not Isaiah
      [4:49:27 AM] Kali 666: yes that's why i am hopeful there won't be any other at least human Pope elected anymore
      [4:49:33 AM] Sirius 17: [Monday, 11 February 2013 5:41 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<<
      Revelation 11:1-14
      King James Version (KJV)


      11 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

      2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

      3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

      4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

      5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

      6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

      7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

      8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

      9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

      10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

      11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

      12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

      13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

      14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.


      [4:50:15 AM] Sirius 17: [4:49 AM] Sirius 17:
      <<< 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.This would be all of us
      [4:50:19 AM] Sirius 17: as Thubans
      [4:50:34 AM] Sirius 17: we are the two witnesses standing before the throne
      [4:50:37 AM] Sirius 17: as One
      [4:50:47 AM] Sirius 17: the Hex
      [4:51:29 AM] Sirius 17: his abjucation to me means that our testimony is absolutly true
      [4:51:51 AM] Sirius 17: a futher confirmation of our story
      [4:53:01 AM] Kali 666: The cometary gases will create the illusion of two suns for a week. The Pope will then be forced to flee Rome and Italy. He is doomed to die a fugitive. This quatrain may be related to the following:

      "Roman Pontiff beware of approaching
      The city the two rivers flow through,
      Your blood will come to spurt
      You and yours when the rose will flourish." (C.2:97)


      [4:53:30 AM] Sirius 17: yes and who is the rose?
      [4:54:06 AM] Sirius 17: ROSE=EROS
      [4:54:10 AM] Sirius 17: LOVE
      [4:54:49 AM] Sirius 17: and something else personal to me and James, but part of our story
      [4:56:41 AM] Sirius 17: yes very very interesting news
      [4:57:42 AM] Sirius 17: Also DD has changed her name again
      [4:57:47 AM] Sirius 17: to just Debra
      [4:58:00 AM] Sirius 17: and changed her Avatar to the Ucadia symbol
      [4:58:15 AM] Sirius 17: she has released the name see
      [4:58:28 AM] Sirius 17: remember Tony asked her to change it?
      [4:59:04 AM] Sirius 17: why today specifically?
      [4:59:19 AM] Sirius 17: it all fits
      [5:02:56 AM] Sirius 17: MI is in DD's place in the hex
      [5:04:04 AM] Sirius 17: the real has suceeded the fake
      [5:06:05 AM] Hades 88: xeia went to pick up Daniel
      [5:06:15 AM] Kali 666: no i'm here
      [5:06:18 AM] Kali 666: i was just afk
      [5:06:21 AM] Hades 88: oh
      [5:06:31 AM] Hades 88: who is picking up Daniel?
      [5:06:37 AM] Kali 666: i am but later
      [5:06:39 AM] Kali 666: he asked me to
      [5:06:55 AM] Kali 666: Raven is right
      [5:07:07 AM] Kali 666: but i couldn't notice the name change
      [5:07:11 AM] Kali 666: was it just here on Skype?
      [5:07:13 AM] Sirius 17: i just noticed it
      [5:07:22 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [5:07:27 AM] Kali 666: i had her renamed as just debra for some time now
      [5:07:57 AM] Sirius 17: well i never renamed her or anyone so i can see that she has indeed changed it
      [5:08:02 AM] Sirius 17: she dropped the 6 hearts
      [5:08:31 AM] Kali 666: maybe reality is beginning to sink in
      [5:08:36 AM] Sirius 17: and the lyric part i guess
      [5:08:45 AM] Kali 666: no more singing now
      [5:09:02 AM] Sirius 17: and look at this
      [5:09:08 AM] Kali 666: for the unbelievers
      [5:09:16 AM] Sirius 17:

      (10) Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."
      (11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"


      [5:09:32 AM] Sirius 17: the two days representing the timing of all of this
      [5:40:38 AM] *** Sirius 17 sent Maria Infinity.docx *


      Maria Infinity's birthday May 16th:
      (15) Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship him. That one is your father."
      (16) Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. For there will be five in a house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the father. And they will stand solitary."
      (17) Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."


      Tony’s Birthday June 4th:
      (3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
      (4) Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."
      (5) Jesus said, "Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you . For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest."


      Xeia’s birthday July 2nd:
      (1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
      (2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
      (3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."


      Rok’s birthday April 14th:
      (13) Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to someone and tell me whom I am like."
      Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a righteous angel."
      Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."
      Thomas said to him, "Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like."
      Jesus said, "I am not your master. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring which I have measured out."
      And he took him and withdrew and told him three things. When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"
      Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the things which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."
      (14) Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. When you go into any land and walk about in the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."
      (15) Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship him. That one is your father."


      Raven’s Birthday Aug 15th:
      (14) Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits. When you go into any land and walk about in the districts, if they receive you, eat what they will set before you, and heal the sick among them. For what goes into your mouth will not defile you, but that which issues from your mouth - it is that which will defile you."
      (15) Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves on your faces and worship him. That one is your father."
      (16) Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that it is peace which I have come to cast upon the world. They do not know that it is dissension which I have come to cast upon the earth: fire, sword, and war. For there will be five in a house: three will be against two, and two against three, the father against the son, and the son against the father. And they will stand solitary."


      James’s birthday Feb 8th:
      (7) Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
      (8) And he said, "The man is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. He threw all the small fish back into the sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
      (9) Jesus said, "Now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. Some fell on the road; the birds came and gathered them up. Others fell on the rock, did not take root in the soil, and did not produce ears. And others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. And others fell on the good soil and it produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."


      DD’s birthday Feb 11th:
      (10) Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."
      (11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"
      (12) The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you will depart from us. Who is to be our leader?"
      Jesus said to them, "Wherever you are, you are to go to James the righteous, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."


      MI’s age (infinity): ABCD=1234
      (1) And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
      (2) Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
      (3) Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
      (4) Jesus said, "The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life, and he will live. For many who are first will become last, and they will become one and the same."
      (88) Jesus said, "The angels and the prophets will come to you and give to you those things you (already) have. And you too, give them those things which you have, and say to yourselves, 'When will they come and take what is theirs?'"
      (104) They said to Jesus, "Come, let us pray today and let us fast."
      Jesus said, "What is the sin that I have committed, or wherein have I been defeated? But when the bridegroom leaves the bridal chamber, then let them fast and pray."


      Tony’s age 55:
      (55) Jesus said, "Whoever does not hate his father and his mother cannot become a disciple to me. And whoever does not hate his brothers and sisters and take up his cross in my way will not be worthy of me."


      Xeia’s age 40:
      (40) Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted outside of the father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by its roots and destroyed."


      Xeia's age 41:

      (41) Jesus said, "Whoever has something in his hand will receive more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived of even the little he has."

      Rok’s age 29:
      (29) Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."


      Raven’s age: 45
      (45) Jesus said, "Grapes are not harvested from thorns, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they do not produce fruit. A good man brings forth good from his storehouse; an evil man brings forth evil things from his evil storehouse, which is in his heart, and says evil things. For out of the abundance of the heart he brings forth evil things."


      James’s age 52:
      (52) His disciples said to him, "Twenty-four prophets spoke in Israel, and all of them spoke in you."
      He said to them, "You have omitted the one living in your presence and have spoken (only) of the dead."


      DD’s age 44:
      (44) Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in heaven."



      [5:40:47 AM] Sirius 17: something i put together just now
      [5:40:58 AM] Sirius 17: its our birthdays as the GOT
      [5:41:01 AM] Sirius 17: and our ages
      [5:52:12 AM] Hades 88: how do the sayings relate to the ages?
      [5:52:28 AM] Sirius 17: as a judgement persay
      [5:53:10 AM] Sirius 17: not necessarily individual judgement but a statement in a sense
      [5:54:02 AM] Sirius 17: but i just got inspired to do this, so don't panic or anything, it is just a snapshot comparing our birthdays and ages with the GOT
      [5:55:24 AM] Sirius 17: but with our birthdays you can see some of the GOT wraps around each other, i chose 3 days with our birthday in the middle
      [5:56:27 AM] Sirius 17: be back later though, i am heading to class
      [5:56:33 AM] Sirius 17: :*
      [5:57:28 AM] Sirius 17: maybe Tony will add his thoughts to it
      [6:16:22 AM] Kali 666: the Pope fleeing Rome will only exacerbate the Great Apostasy of teh Church prophesied by the end times
      [6:52:33 AM] *** Kali 666 sent Maria Infinity.docx ***
      [6:52:36 AM] Kali 666: corrected
      [6:52:54 AM] Hades 88: in waht way?
      [6:53:31 AM] Hades 88: ur age?
      [9:07:07 AM] Kali 666: yes
      [9:07:59 AM] Sirius 17: your not 40?
      [9:08:02 AM] Kali 666: no
      [9:08:05 AM] Kali 666: i am 41
      [9:08:10 AM] Sirius 17: ohhh
      [9:08:13 AM] Sirius 17: lol my bad
      [9:08:13 AM] Kali 666: hehe
      [9:08:22 AM] Kali 666: no problem
      [9:08:26 AM] Sirius 17: sorry sis
      [9:08:34 AM] Kali 666: hey
      [9:08:43 AM] Kali 666: you made me younger....
      [9:08:48 AM] Sirius 17: its all good
      [9:08:57 AM] Sirius 17: yeah well i see you younger
      [9:09:32 AM] Sirius 17: sis can you rename it, it won't let me save it
      [9:09:46 AM] Sirius 17: it wan'ts to replace the old one
      [9:09:52 AM] Kali 666: do it
      [9:09:59 AM] Kali 666: it's the same
      [9:10:07 AM] Sirius 17: well i tried but it won't let me download it for some reason
      [9:10:11 AM] Sirius 17: i got an error message
      [9:10:19 AM] Kali 666: oh
      [9:10:20 AM] Sirius 17: says i can't save file
      [9:10:25 AM] Kali 666: ok wait
      [9:12:17 AM] *** Kali 666 sent Maria Infinity1.docx ***
      [9:12:35 AM] Sirius 17: yay, i got that one
      [9:12:43 AM] Kali 666: oh goody
      [9:19:27 AM] Wyzard97: [12:47 AM] Kali 666:
      <<< i don't think there will be another Pope
      or more like..(i hope there won't be)
      this "terrible judge" may not be "Satan"
      but the Christ himself
      Correct!

      [9:24:17 AM] Wyzard97: I have some news too
      [9:24:36 AM] Wyzard97: I realised what is behind the 'dead arising here'
      [9:24:49 AM] Wyzard97: Now you remember the 3 sisters yes?
      [9:25:03 AM] Wyzard97: MI, Jesse and Marge
      [9:25:38 AM] Wyzard97: This is of course 'personal' to MI's memory, but is made cosmic upon manifestation in the 'higher realms' of the waves
      [9:25:48 AM] Wyzard97: Now here comes the crux
      [9:26:16 AM] Wyzard97: I realised that MI is indeed within Raven, as she has cclaimed from the beginning; I felt it
      [9:27:00 AM] Wyzard97: But the little sex energy we felt at the camchat was a decisive moment, because before Raven was with me and DD and had no defined core
      [9:27:16 AM] Wyzard97: Now Raven is cored with James and this allowed this new data to break through
      [9:27:51 AM] Wyzard97: In short all 3 femmes are inducted according to the 'age' and this is what Raven was tuning into just before
      [9:28:31 AM] Wyzard97: So who is the oldest in a 4 generation matrix of grandmother-mother-daughter-granddaughter?
      [9:29:10 AM] Wyzard97: The grandmother is MI generalised as Mother Mary say and the Mother becomes ALL OF US as the incarnated expression of the 4 generations
      [9:29:29 AM] Wyzard97: Then the daughter is the next age and the ghranddaughter is the youngest
      [9:29:41 AM] Wyzard97: Logos then used this in thius hexcore in the following way
      [9:30:18 AM] Wyzard97: MI became the GrandMother universal, say manifesting as Raven's grandmother and in Xeia via Rok as Marji
      [9:30:46 AM] Wyzard97: But Raven is the oldest 1967 and Lassie is the second in 1969 and Xeia is the youngster as 1971
      [9:31:32 AM] Wyzard97: So what Logos did, was to map MI into old DD, who is now disempowered like the antichrist pope image but is waveformed as a living dead one in Lassie
      [9:32:00 AM] Wyzard97: So Debbie, my Debbie must match with Lassie and now Xeia listen closely, this will stir your heart
      [9:32:20 AM] Wyzard97: Debbie's aborted daugfhterson will manifest in Xeia as the 4th generation
      [9:32:48 AM] Wyzard97: MI of course is like the earthmother and so is weighty as the anchor of MI
      [9:33:04 AM] Wyzard97: This should clarify our 'roles' a lot better now
      [9:34:13 AM] Wyzard97: As this is a 'femme second coming' in essence, there is also a 4-tiered brotherhood manifesting in the Tony-James-Rok trio in corresponding order of Tony the oldest and Rok the youngest
      [9:35:19 AM] Wyzard97: The Tony-MI core is so in dynamic flux in allowing the younger members to permutate according to personal remembrances, just as what happened to Raven and Margaret and so on
      [9:36:23 AM] Wyzard97: As the oldest reflects in the youngest, using the incarnated generation as a mirror, Xeia's 'JCCJ descent so creates unborn ET starbabies, who are then permutated likewise
      [9:37:11 AM] Sirius 17: yes Xeia's desire to be a mom fulfilled
      [9:37:29 AM] Wyzard97: But Xeia's 'loss of an ovary' relates directrly to Debbie's aborted child in archetype and so beco
      [9:37:30 AM] Sirius 17: this is so awsome
      [9:37:36 AM] Wyzard97: You understand this yes?
      [9:37:42 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [9:38:08 AM] Wyzard97: The sexual attractions i felt in the cam relate to this of course
      [9:38:45 AM] Wyzard97: I used some magic lol and saw the dragonsex with James and Lassie and so on you can fill in the pictures
      [9:39:14 AM] Wyzard97: I will share with the papal associations so I will not talk details here
      [9:39:46 AM] Wyzard97: But Lassie is the 1969 generation and no longer has anything to do with what we know as DD
      [9:40:05 AM] Sirius 17: good
      [9:40:27 AM] Wyzard97: The less she is mentioned from now on, the better
      [9:41:39 AM] Wyzard97: Lassie is my Debbie in a multidimensional manner and the JCCJ descent is with respect to the old bodyform remembered only and like the papal abdication, the old DD mindform and soul or spirit has losts its relevancies in the true Logos agenda
      [9:41:57 AM] Wyzard97: Whtever fakery continues need no longer concern us
      [9:42:12 AM] Sirius 17: agreed
      [9:43:21 AM] Wyzard97: I will try to include Rok's 30th birthday in the chart, because it relates to the three parts and the four parts in a decisive manner
      [9:43:36 AM] Wyzard97: Recall the 18 days?
      [9:43:42 AM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [9:43:50 AM] Wyzard97: At the end and the start
      [9:43:55 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [9:44:06 AM] Wyzard97: Well March 25th is a big day as the end of the Dragon Made
      [9:44:20 AM] Wyzard97: March 24th is the 18th yearday anniversary of MI
      [9:44:28 AM] Sirius 17: oh wow
      [9:44:37 AM] Wyzard97: Add the 21 days to March 24th, 2013 and you get April 14th, 2013
      [9:45:20 AM] Wyzard97: Yes I am decoding this here for you, because on the chart, I can only put the dates and the partition
      [9:45:51 AM] Wyzard97: The 1260 days of the testimony are divided by 15 to give the 'shortening of days'
      [9:45:57 AM] Wyzard97: 1260/15=84
      [9:46:39 AM] Wyzard97: The 84 are partitioned into two and three and four parts in 21+21+21+21=42+42=84
      [9:46:53 AM] Wyzard97: And as 42+42=84=28+28+28
      [9:47:23 AM] Wyzard97: This becomes a particular sequence in 21+7+14+14+7+21=84
      [9:47:33 AM] Wyzard97: Mirrored in itself see?
      [9:47:38 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [9:48:45 AM] Wyzard97: So April 14th, 2013 becomes the 21 marker following the end of the encoded Armageddon from the evening of the March 25th as per the reckonings of Genesis (and the Hebrew chronos), where the day begins at say 6pm the previous day
      [9:49:37 AM] Wyzard97: This suffices. It does not matter if you can understand the details, but this code is the superchart in terms of the long time and the short time

      [9:50:41 AM] Sirius 17: ok, what did you think of what i did on our birthdays and ages?
      [9:50:59 AM] Sirius 17: i thought it was interesting
      [9:51:24 AM] Sirius 17: just connecting that to the GOT
      [9:51:51 AM] Wyzard97: Is this the doc? I have not read this yet
      [9:51:58 AM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [9:52:05 AM] Wyzard97: Wait a bit dear
      [9:52:11 AM] Sirius 17: but Xeia should be GOT 41 in the ages
      [9:52:20 AM] Sirius 17: i messed up and made her younger lol
      [9:55:24 AM] Sirius 17: and you can add more to MI, i did not add #24 her death day
      [10:00:48 AM] Wyzard97: Ah yes, cool also 44=ELDER=ROK=ABRAHAM and 2222=DD yes
      [10:01:17 AM] Sirius 17: i thought it was interesting that we encompass 17 of the first lines within the 3 days surrounding our birthdays
      [10:01:44 AM] Wyzard97: Yes those wordplays are all valid if put into a logostical context, which you did
      [10:01:55 AM] Sirius 17:

      (18) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us how our end will be."
      Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."


      [10:01:58 AM] Sirius 17: and this is the 18th
      [10:02:06 AM] Sirius 17: the begining and end
      [10:02:23 AM] Wyzard97: The cosmos loves creativity and improvisations such as this I AM THAT I AM = MATHIMATIA recall
      [10:02:49 AM] Wyzard97: Also Raven you know of Miriam as Lazarus Sister yes?
      [10:02:52 AM] Sirius 17: yes well i was inspired to do this today by the Logos
      [10:02:58 AM] Sirius 17: yes
      [10:03:10 AM] Wyzard97: MI R IAM is rather similar to ALL IS I AM yes?
      [10:03:17 AM] Sirius 17: lol
      [10:03:34 AM] Sirius 17: i had not seen THAT before
      [10:03:41 AM] Wyzard97: Lol MI told me
      [10:03:59 AM] Wyzard97: MI is in Allisiam AND in Miriam as a form of Mary
      [10:04:17 AM] Sirius 17: yes i always felt that
      [10:04:42 AM] Wyzard97: I still associate Miriam with you, at least in template and Xeia with her sister Martha
      [10:05:24 AM] Sirius 17:

      (24) His disciples said to him, "Show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it."
      He said to them, "Whoever has ears, let him hear. There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness."


      [10:05:33 AM] Sirius 17: this is her death anniversary day
      [10:05:40 AM] Sirius 17: i found very interesting
      [10:05:54 AM] Wyzard97: Yes good one
      [10:06:40 AM] Sirius 17: but i see all of this as a proclamation of sorts, we are the living words so i wanted to see the connections
      [10:06:59 AM] Sirius 17: what are we saying in GOT terms, you know what i am saying? lol
      [10:07:30 AM] Sirius 17: I think our message is pretty clear
      [at least to me anyhow
      [10:13:28 AM] Wyzard97: Xeia sent an edit what was edited, just the number 40?
      [10:13:41 AM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [10:13:48 AM] Wyzard97: Ok I cant get this atm
      [10:13:59 AM] Sirius 17: change it to 41
      [10:13:59 AM] Sirius 17: she changed that
      [10:14:03 AM] Wyzard97: I dont have to use this then
      [10:14:22 AM] *** Sirius 17 sent Maria Infinity1.docx ***
      [10:14:22 AM] Sirius 17: this is the correction
      [10:15:05 AM] Wyzard97: Send it again
      [10:15:14 AM] Wyzard97: Cant save file message
      [10:15:22 AM] *** Sirius 17 sent Maria Infinity1.docx ***
      [10:16:18 AM] Sirius 17: also i didn't reduce our ages down, could do that too, like your 10 and i am 9 ect ext
      [10:17:00 AM] Wyzard97: It is fine as it is
      [10:17:22 AM] Wyzard97: I add the 41 saying beneath the 40, both are relevant
      [10:17:34 AM] Sirius 17: yeah true; oh nice you added it
      [10:28:26 AM] Sirius 17:

      (23) Jesus said, "I shall choose you, one out of a thousand, and two out of ten thousand, and they shall stand as a single one."

      [10:28:40 AM] Sirius 17: this is Roses death day and James's grandmothers
      [10:29:52 AM] Wyzard97: Yes I liked the ROSE=EROS; it is also SORE
      [10:30:02 AM] Sirius 17: yeah i forgot the sore part
      [10:41:06 AM] Wyzard97: I added this too

      [11:26:30 AM] Wyzard97: Another surprise for Xeia
      [11:27:12 AM] Wyzard97: Xeia, what have Rok's birthday, MI's birthday and your birthday in common? Are they somehow linked in the superchart?
      [11:28:09 AM] Wyzard97: http://thuban.spruz.com/gfile/75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!g10Boy7r72y1nq/add.jpg
      [11:28:27 AM] Wyzard97: I shall wait and see, if youor Rok can answer this query.
      [11:28:40 AM] Wyzard97: Raven is not allowed to tell, if she can see it.
      [11:36:19 AM] Sirius 17: (chuckle)
      [11:36:34 AM] Wyzard97: Did you see?
      [11:36:38 AM] Sirius 17: yeah
      [11:36:44 AM] Wyzard97: Amazing eh
      [11:36:51 AM] Wyzard97: MI has linked them
      [11:37:27 AM] Sirius 17: yes but not sure which box it links to but i see it
      [11:37:42 AM] Wyzard97: I coloured it teal
      [11:37:55 AM] Wyzard97: aquablue
      [11:38:02 AM] Sirius 17: yeah lots of teal colored boxes lol
      [11:38:16 AM] Wyzard97: So you were fibbing and did not see it lol
      [11:38:38 AM] Wyzard97: It is not a box, but 2 dates
      [11:38:42 AM] Sirius 17: no i see the dates
      [11:38:43 AM] Wyzard97: Or 4
      [11:38:51 AM] Wyzard97: Ok
      [11:38:54 AM] Wyzard97: nuff said
      [11:39:03 AM] Wyzard97: Let Xeia play detective here
      [11:39:29 AM] Wyzard97: Does the link above give a big pic?
      [11:39:49 AM] Wyzard97: It does in my browser, but then shrinks
      [11:40:05 AM] Wyzard97: It stays big on the MOA link
      [11:40:36 AM] Sirius 17: it shrinks but i can make it big
      [11:42:06 AM] Wyzard97: Ok I am wondering if I should use the MOA link
      [11:42:39 AM] Wyzard97: http://www.themistsofavalon.net/viewimage.forum?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthuban.spruz.com%2Fgfile%2F75r4!-!GKLGHE!-!g10Boy7r72y1nq%2Fadd.jpg
      [11:43:30 AM] Sirius 17: yeah the MOA link its big automatically
      [11:43:39 AM] Wyzard97: What I mean
      [11:48:37 AM] Wyzard97: 18YearDays March 24th, 1995-2013
      [11:48:43 AM] Wyzard97: I added this as a hint
      [1:12:11 PM] Kali 666: [9:36 AM] Wyzard97:
      <<< But Xeia's 'loss of an ovary' relates directrly to Debbie's aborted child in archetype and so beco

      [1:12:15 PM] Kali 666: hey Tony
      [1:12:30 PM] Kali 666: did you finish your thinking here or?
      [1:13:22 PM] Kali 666: and so becomes.....what?
      [1:14:10 PM] Kali 666: [9:31 AM] Wyzard97:
      <<< Debbie's aborted daugfhterson will manifest in Xeia as the 4th generationand what does this mean?

      [1:17:30 PM] Wyzard97: Did you read what I've said? I explained what this means
      [1:18:19 PM] Wyzard97: The 4 generations are an important code, even Jesus used to talk about the future
      [1:19:55 PM] Wyzard97: In your case it relates to closing the circle alpha and omega code
      [1:20:08 PM] Kali 666: i'm reading yes
      [1:20:17 PM] Kali 666: hmm
      [1:20:19 PM] Wyzard97: After you decipher the Rok-MI-Xeia riddle you might understand this better
      [1:20:31 PM] Kali 666: i meant
      [1:20:37 PM] Kali 666: "in" me
      [1:20:53 PM] Wyzard97: It means that you are a blueprint function for the Logos
      [1:20:54 PM] Kali 666: would it be maybe like Raven's grandma?
      [1:20:59 PM] Wyzard97: This is just like the dove
      [1:21:09 PM] Wyzard97: Nono you guys are too personal
      [1:21:43 PM] Wyzard97: Ah yes I misread I thought you said that you are Raven's grandma ;lol
      [1:21:51 PM] Kali 666: no no
      [1:21:54 PM] Kali 666: i asked if you meant "manifest" AS that
      [1:22:14 PM] Wyzard97: Yes Raven's Grandma IS a MI aspect now personalised towards Raven's family and remembrances
      [1:22:37 PM] Kali 666: hmm
      [1:22:57 PM] Kali 666: i have been feeling this amm....how could i explain this
      [1:23:10 PM] Kali 666: this "calling"
      [1:23:17 PM] Wyzard97: The same way is Debbie's abortion a manifesto for ALL abortions but reconfigured in you for a certain time to become cosmically applicable after a certain time evolvement
      [1:23:38 PM] Wyzard97: I know that you have a deep encoding regarding this
      [1:23:48 PM] Wyzard97: Why I said Xeia look at this carefully
      [1:24:29 PM] Wyzard97: The time has come for you to decode your own past memories and encodings
      [1:24:40 PM] Wyzard97: I am just a trigger here
      [1:25:01 PM] Wyzard97: You had an abortion or two yes?
      [1:25:15 PM] Kali 666: since some time ago....amm...this "calling" that feels like the soul of an unborn child wanting to be born or something like that, and i always thought that it simply was my future Starbaby with Rok trying to synch with his future mother
      [1:25:18 PM] Kali 666: one
      [1:25:30 PM] Kali 666: yes
      [1:25:31 PM] Wyzard97: Well now you know better and deeper
      [1:25:44 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and Raven's abortions too
      [1:26:11 PM] Wyzard97: Infertility all these things related to your ovary see as something lost to be replaced by something else
      [1:26:31 PM] Wyzard97: New merkabahs in slow evolution
      [1:27:33 PM] Wyzard97: All abortions still births and so on are WITHIN you in these weeks coming to somehow become harmonised or born into the New World
      [1:27:48 PM] Wyzard97: So all 'guilt' can be 'redeemed'
      [1:28:17 PM] Wyzard97: This is what i meant with the 4 generations you being the 2nd here
      [1:28:38 PM] Wyzard97: 2nd AS an incarnate but the 4th as the youngest not incarnate
      [1:29:05 PM] Kali 666: oh i see
      [1:29:05 PM] Wyzard97: Thuban IS the 2nd gen here 1,3 and 4 are disincarnate waveforms
      [1:29:47 PM] Wyzard97: Yes the not incarnate Xeia is LIKE Debbies abortion in particular here in blueprint, but ALL unborn ones generally
      [1:30:38 PM] Wyzard97: As 2nd you are ALSO the 1-3-4 and so a potential grandmother AS MI and a daughter like Lassie and the fourth of the grandchild
      [1:30:54 PM] Wyzard97: This is the hex
      [1:30:58 PM] Wyzard97: Permuting
      [1:31:07 PM] Wyzard97: You become ALL 4 generations
      [1:31:15 PM] Wyzard97: But like in a timewarp
      [1:31:25 PM] Wyzard97: You eliminate time in the Logos template
      [1:31:39 PM] Kali 666: ok i can understand that
      [1:31:43 PM] Wyzard97: Good then
      [1:32:00 PM] Kali 666: i'm looking at the SuperChart
      [1:32:10 PM] Wyzard97: Raven can explain better than me I am sure
      [1:32:14 PM] Kali 666: trying to see the correlation between our birthdays
      [1:32:23 PM] Wyzard97: Well did you solve the riddle yet?
      [1:32:33 PM] Kali 666: i'm trying lol
      [1:32:45 PM] Wyzard97: Aquablue dates
      [1:34:13 PM] Wyzard97: [1:25 PM] Kali 666:
      <<< since some time ago....amm...this "calling" that feels like the soul of an unborn child wanting to be born or something like that, and i always thought that it simply was my future Starbaby with Rok trying to synch with his future mother
      [1:34:18 PM] Wyzard97: So who are you giving birth to here?

      [1:34:19 PM] Wyzard97: Can you answer this now?
      [1:35:01 PM] Kali 666: myself i guess
      [1:35:20 PM] Wyzard97: Correct, as a multiD starhuman entity
      [1:35:30 PM] Wyzard97: Very good
      [1:36:14 PM] Wyzard97: AND in doing this perceptionally, you allow this self realisation to become Logos shared and be rendered universal for all to use as a template or formula
      [1:36:55 PM] Wyzard97: So you are acting as a quantum physicist and Logos mathematician, without the hard learning of the semantics
      [1:41:50 PM] Wyzard97: The 'starbabies' are what they are called; they become a wavicle form without inborn wave-particle dualism. They are literally soul families connecting the incarnated souls with the disincarnated souls and this somehow also transmutes to ET bodies, details I am not privvy to as yet
      [1:46:59 PM] Kali 666: there's a full gestation period between
      [1:47:06 PM] Kali 666: my birthday last year
      [1:47:09 PM] Kali 666: and Rok's this year
      [1:47:27 PM] Wyzard97: Precisely
      [1:47:51 PM] Wyzard97: And your birthday = MI's death- or rebirth day
      [1:49:15 PM] Wyzard97: And Rok's birthday coincides with MM's feastday of July 22/23
      [1:49:38 PM] Wyzard97: We were always looking for Rok's MM remember?
      [1:49:44 PM] Kali 666: yes
      [1:50:42 PM] Kali 666: [11:26 AM] Wyzard97:
      <<< Xeia, what have Rok's birthday, MI's birthday and your birthday in common? Are they somehow linked in the superchart?but she was born May 16th no? i was looking for that day but couldn't find it

      [1:50:47 PM] Wyzard97: As MI is like Mother Mary, Mother of Jesus with you and MM is Jesus' Beloved, RokSui is none other then a JCCJ descent in the manifestation BEFORE it becomes cosmically available for all
      [1:51:15 PM] Wyzard97: March 24th, 1995 was when she was REBORN as an Aries
      [1:51:39 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus birthday 6BC was March 24th Julian
      [1:51:58 PM] Wyzard97: MI as JC and MM as CJ are Xeia+Rok
      [1:52:40 PM] Wyzard97: Your IM as Raven would say is none other than your malemindedness you basically all your life have refused to express as said in the camchat
      [1:52:52 PM] Wyzard97: No wonder you see JC in Rok, lol
      [1:53:08 PM] Kali 666: hahaha omg
      [1:53:12 PM] Wyzard97: Rather appropriate, because he is the malemindedness of the old Mary Magdalene
      [1:53:56 PM] Wyzard97: His malemindedness is the old world fuckup and JC's new femalemindedness is the thing you try so hard to share with him and everyone
      [1:54:23 PM] Wyzard97: But it is manifesting in the hex because the times are ripe now
      [1:54:39 PM] Wyzard97: So MI literally is in Raven and you now and in Lassie but not in DD
      [1:54:58 PM] Wyzard97: You are premature Xeia in Logos terms
      [1:55:21 PM] Kali 666: oh so that's the "Ethereal" part you saw in me
      [1:55:28 PM] Wyzard97: Premature incarnate relative to the old world but necessarily so for a new World to rise from the ashes of the old
      [1:55:47 PM] Wyzard97: Well, I saw the sexy nymph
      [1:56:06 PM] Wyzard97: Like in nymph -o- maniac Rok would say
      [1:56:15 PM] Kali 666: lol
      [1:56:47 PM | Edited 1:57:13 PM] Wyzard97: Well on the soul level you are, in the incarnate state you struggle with consequences and implications
      [1:57:31 PM] Kali 666: [1:51 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< No wonder you see JC in Rok, lolbut i do you know? i do

      [1:57:41 PM] Wyzard97: We know
      [1:57:57 PM] Wyzard97: And it is true, even though he misconstrues this
      [1:58:11 PM] Wyzard97: Rok is premature like you
      [1:58:38 PM] Wyzard97: Why he is so impatient, he cant wait, but knows there is something in you, he knows and desires
      [1:59:14 PM] Wyzard97: He is reluctant to share, because this uniqueness does belong to him as a core level
      [1:59:39 PM] Wyzard97: He simply cant differentiate between cores in the human sense and the starhuman dragon sense as yet
      [1:59:51 PM] Wyzard97: And I dont think he can see it for the time being
      [2:00:34 PM] Wyzard97: King Beeness is what he is not realising yet
      [2:00:39 PM] Wyzard97: Kingbees and drones
      [2:01:30 PM] Wyzard97: Away from John, if he could understand, that Tony can forever only be a drone with you; then he might feel more secure
      [2:02:02 PM] Wyzard97: But drones can be sexy too lol and juicy lovers
      [2:02:06 PM] Kali 666: but how does the date itself of Mi's rebirth relate to his birthday and mine? i don't see it
      [2:02:26 PM] Kali 666: [1:50 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< March 24th, 1995 was when she was REBORN as an Aries, so she's 18 yrs old now?

      [2:02:29 PM] Wyzard97: But they always know that they have their own QueenBee some hive and are 'only visiting' your hive
      [2:02:41 PM] Wyzard97: Yes in linear chronos
      [2:02:54 PM] Kali 666: ok and the 3 birthdays?
      [2:03:00 PM] Wyzard97: Well she will be on the last day of the Armageddon
      [2:03:38 PM] Wyzard97: The 3 birthdays are 4
      [2:03:56 PM] Wyzard97: You and MI as Mary Mother and Rok with MM as Mary Daughter
      [2:04:17 PM] Wyzard97: Mary Magdalene is a Leo
      [2:04:19 PM] Kali 666: i can see the dates on the Superchart...but i also see 23 July is that 2023?
      [2:04:31 PM] Wyzard97: No 2012
      [2:04:42 PM] Kali 666: then it's a mistake
      [2:04:51 PM] Kali 666: is it?
      [2:04:55 PM] Wyzard97: Last year when we actually defined this recall in some timeline
      [2:05:19 PM] Wyzard97: We called them Dragon dates beginning July 23rd with July 22nd counted as day #0
      [2:05:26 PM] Kali 666: you wrote it as: 23Jul23 <------------- see?
      [2:05:33 PM] Wyzard97: Let me look
      [2:05:50 PM] Kali 666: if 2012, then it should read 23Jul12
      [2:05:59 PM] Wyzard97: yes mistake
      [2:06:02 PM] Kali 666: ok
      [2:08:31 PM] Kali 666: Raven
      [2:08:40 PM] Kali 666: what do the dates have in common....do you see it?
      [2:10:09 PM] Kali 666: how exactly does MI link Rok and I in our birthdays?
      [2:10:50 PM] Kali 666: mathematically speaking
      [2:11:11 PM] Wyzard97: Look now
      [2:14:11 PM] Wyzard97: July 2nd, 2012 + 265 = March 24th, 2013 Sui
      [2:14:55 PM] Wyzard97: On March 24th, 2013 YOU will give birth to a new MI cosmically applicable, yet you will become a starmother of a New Generation for the dead alive ones
      [2:15:34 PM] Wyzard97: So MI is also you as the unborn child; hence your 'calling' you have felt for some time
      [2:16:03 PM] Wyzard97: MI then bocomes like a cosmic Christmother not just for planet Earth
      [2:17:49 PM] Kali 666: OOOH
      [2:17:55 PM] Kali 666: omg yes
      [2:18:15 PM] Wyzard97: lol
      [2:18:32 PM] Kali 666: :$ i'm so slow i know
      [2:18:34 PM] Wyzard97: I told you so, clever decoder I am hahah
      [2:18:37 PM] Kali 666: hehe
      [2:18:51 PM] Wyzard97: I knew when I got the info, how you connect to it
      [2:18:59 PM] Wyzard97: Because of the cam words
      [2:19:13 PM] Wyzard97: So now you and Raven can see it better
      [2:19:18 PM] Kali 666: Jesus these dates matching is so unbelivable!!
      [2:19:49 PM] Wyzard97: Raven is the MI in Gaia now as the Old Earthmother in waiting and you are waiting as the New Earthmother
      [2:20:15 PM] Wyzard97: You both are the same Logos template though, like the RavenDove
      [2:20:39 PM] Kali 666: oh no wonder she is the Phys Phys
      [2:20:48 PM] Kali 666: i can see why now
      [2:21:03 PM] Wyzard97: Yes, why it is proper to share this now. Not that I knew before
      [2:21:22 PM] Kali 666: amazing
      [2:22:16 PM] Wyzard97: Well, the dates are factual
      [2:25:15 PM] Kali 666: and between MI's bd and Rok's there's 21 days
      [2:25:34 PM] Kali 666: this year
      [2:25:46 PM] Kali 666: since 1995 it's 18 years + 21 days
      [2:30:34 PM] Kali 666: did you correct the date in Spruz Tony?
      [2:35:03 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [2:36:45 PM] Kali 666: hmm i refresh but i still see it as 2023
      [2:37:58 PM] Kali 666: [1:48 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< And Rok's birthday coincides with MM's feastday of July 22/23what feastday is this? and how does April 14th coincide with July 22/23?

      [2:48:16 PM] Wyzard97: Oh dear it did not copy
      [2:48:36 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia, add 265 days to July 23rd, 2012 and see what you get
      [2:51:05 PM] Wyzard97: Is it there now?
      [2:51:55 PM] Wyzard97: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene
      [2:52:20 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.theage.com.au/world/a-sign-from-above-lightning-strikes-vatican-after-pope-benedict-resigns-20130212-2e9ng.html
      [2:52:21 PM] Kali 666: April 14th, 2013!!
      [2:52:31 PM] Wyzard97: Right
      [2:53:07 PM] Kali 666: and what is a feastday?
      [2:53:34 PM] Kali 666: [2:47 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< Oh dear it did not copydon't forget heaven too
      [2:54:00 PM] Wyzard97: The chart automatically copies onto heaven
      [2:55:08 PM] Kali 666: "Not even the Pope wants to be part fo the Catholic Church anymore"....great apostasy indeed!
      [2:56:01 PM] Kali 666: oh yes if you change it on teh source link that's right
      [2:56:49 PM] Kali 666: [2:50 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< Is it there now?
      yes i see it now
      [2:59:35 PM] Kali 666: powerful shot that lighting striking St Peter's dome
      [3:00:28 PM] Wyzard97: I considered it a fitting omen or symbol
      [3:00:43 PM] Wyzard97: There is a scripture code you would like
      [3:05:33 PM] Wyzard97: I am having troubles again with internet loadings
      [3:05:55 PM] Wyzard97: Not my computer, but the server
      [3:05:59 PM] Kali 666: is it your internet connection again?
      [3:06:05 PM] Kali 666: ohh like before
      [3:06:12 PM] Wyzard97: yes, it has been dastardly slow the last 2 days
      [3:07:53 PM] Wyzard97: You got the Malachi prophecy spot on Sui
      [3:08:14 PM] Wyzard97: There is Nabs with it about antichrist popes and such nonsense
      [3:08:38 PM] Wyzard97: It does not matter who they select in the conclave; I suspect it will be an Italian
      [3:09:01 PM] Wyzard97: The Roman Peter is the Christ associated 'remnant'
      [3:10:53 PM] Wyzard97: It is the Cephas-Rock in all malemindedness of the so called 144,000
      [3:11:00 PM] Wyzard97: Male and female
      [3:11:38 PM] Wyzard97: Like part of the 24 Elders and such a doubling or twinning of the 12x12=144 as 288
      [3:12:35 PM] Kali 666: do you know if they will have to appoint someone sometime before he officially leaves the Vatican?
      [3:13:12 PM] Kali 666: because if they don't, i strongly believe there won't even be another elected Pope
      [3:13:17 PM] Kali 666: not by humans anyway
      [3:13:35 PM] Kali 666: [9:38 AM] Wyzard97:
      <<< I will share with the papal associations so I will not talk details here

      [3:14:04 PM] Wyzard97: They will retire him in a monastery or such. They dont have to 'mourn' as he did not die, but they will have a new pope around March 25th, when 'our' Armageddon ends, because Easter Week starts March 24th precisely as Palm Sunday 2013.
      [3:14:25 PM] Kali 666: are you sure about this?
      [3:14:30 PM] Wyzard97: Yes
      [3:14:43 PM] Wyzard97: Easter Sunday is March 31st, 2013
      [3:15:00 PM] Kali 666: i meant the part that they will have a new pope by March 25th
      [3:15:28 PM] Wyzard97: No, but as Easter is close they should have one by Palm Sunday
      [3:15:36 PM] Kali 666: "should"
      [3:15:43 PM] Wyzard97: Jesus rides into Jerusalem
      [3:16:03 PM] Wyzard97: He did this on March 25th 31
      [3:16:09 PM] Wyzard97: Julian time
      [3:16:36 PM] Kali 666: Don Alejandro said the Mayans know that on March 31st 2013, the "Day of the Lord" will come
      [3:16:47 PM] Wyzard97: Well, lets say no later then March 24th
      [3:17:07 PM] Wyzard97: It IS Easter Sunday - Resurrection day 2013
      [3:17:24 PM] Kali 666: i know but...i wonder if they will actually have a new Pope by then
      [3:17:30 PM] Wyzard97: I am rather sure
      [3:17:46 PM] Wyzard97: That they will have one so a week to 10 days before
      And it should be an Italian after two 'foreigners'
      [3:21:21 PM] Wyzard97: NK just detonated another 'nuke' apparently
      [3:21:32 PM] Wyzard97: Times are heating up
      [3:21:46 PM] Wyzard97: USA gunslingers will not be pleased
      [3:22:10 PM] Kali 666: i don't know if the conclave will be set up as if the Pope will be in his dying bed
      [3:22:19 PM] Kali 666: they already have a date
      [3:23:25 PM] Kali 666: i just don't feel a new Pope's reign for some reason
      [3:23:30 PM] Wyzard97: Most likely
      [3:23:43 PM] Wyzard97: There will be a figurehead Xeia
      [3:24:03 PM] Wyzard97: There is no more power with the office. What I tried to say to Rok
      [3:24:24 PM] Wyzard97: It is NOT personal
      [3:24:39 PM] Wyzard97: It does not matter what they do, the prophecies are fulfilled
      [3:25:30 PM] Kali 666: yes indeed
      [3:25:31 PM] Kali 666:

      VATICAN CITY (AP) — Declaring that he lacks the strength to do his job, Pope Benedict XVI announced Monday he will resign Feb. 28 — becoming the first pontiff to step down in 600 years. His decision sets the stage for a mid-March conclave to elect a new leader for a Catholic Church in deep turmoil.

      [3:25:48 PM] Kali 666: Mid March...hmm
      [3:27:00 PM] Wyzard97: As I just said; Easter is defined in the March equinox and this is March 20th with the 1st full moon following on March 27th, defining Easter Week
      [3:27:11 PM] Wyzard97: And this is your 3rd anniversary lol
      [3:27:27 PM] Kali 666: yes i was just looking at that...all those dates in March
      [3:27:36 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this is why
      [3:28:16 PM] Wyzard97: March 27th will be Crucifixon Wednesday
      [3:28:41 PM] Wyzard97: Last Supper Thursday is March 28th and Good Friday is March 29th
      [3:28:45 PM] Kali 666: 3 1/2 days after the March 23/24 date
      [3:29:17 PM] Wyzard97: Yes this relates to both the superchart and the mirrored RavenDove chart above it
      [3:30:34 PM] Kali 666: and then the same amount of days running forward is his ressurection
      [3:30:40 PM] Kali 666: but this one will be New
      [3:30:47 PM] Kali 666: a New Ressurection
      [3:32:39 PM] Wyzard97: In the metaphysics, Armageddon ends March 25th and this means a Second Coming of Sorts yes. How this manifests in 4D, I dont know, but more 'doors opening' yes
      [3:35:16 PM] Kali 666: March the 25th or the 24th?
      [3:35:46 PM] Kali 666: isn't it 23/24?
      [3:35:55 PM] Wyzard97: March 24th is the Evening before the dawn, like in Genesis
      [3:36:05 PM] Wyzard97: It is all 3 days
      [3:36:17 PM] Kali 666: i see yes...then it all fits
      [3:36:43 PM] Wyzard97: It was March 23rd to March 25th and I added March 24th simply to indicate the 3 weeks to Rok's 30th birthday
      [3:36:44 PM] Kali 666: 8 days before the 31st is= 23
      [3:37:15 PM] Wyzard97: It actually starts on March of Ides day March 15th
      [3:37:50 PM] Wyzard97: Then add 2 then 3 for the 1260-1290-1335 timeline in Daniel after dividing each long time by 15 to get the short time
      [3:38:46 PM] Wyzard97: Recall that the flood was '15 cubits' to encompass the earth and that in Hosea the prophet is told to 'buy a whore' for 15 silver pieces and that Jesus was 'betrayed' for doubled that in 30 silver pieces

      [3:38:54 PM] Kali 666: yes
      [3:39:14 PM] Wyzard97: 360 days as a prophet's year divided by 15 = 24 the hours in a day. It comes from that
      [3:39:39 PM] Wyzard97: So it is 2-3-3-2 as the 10 days in the mirror
      [3:39:58 PM] Wyzard97: This gets you March 15th, 17th, 20th, 23rd and 25th
      [3:40:17 PM] Wyzard97: Adding March 16 and March 24th is simply finetuning
      [3:40:42 PM] Wyzard97: March 16th is actually the birthday of my second daughter Christine Marie
      [3:40:50 PM] Wyzard97: She has disowned me lol
      [3:41:17 PM] Wyzard97: Raven will see the Mary and Maria and the Christ In 5

      [3:42:43 PM] Kali 666: [3:22 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< There will be a figurehead Xeiabut this "figurehead" should not be a new Pope in Rome...not a human one anyway. This "bad pope" prophesy has been taken too lierally. This new "pope" should be the Christ himself in his second coming and the "Church reformed" not be more religion intitution but Dragon's Law in it's own uniqueness

      [3:43:28 PM] Kali 666: i don't want a new pope
      [3:43:33 PM] Wyzard97: Yes dear and this is just what I agreed with you with a number of times now in this chat
      [3:43:40 PM] Kali 666: we don't need one
      [3:44:03 PM] Wyzard97: It is IRRELEVANT what they do
      [3:44:12 PM] Kali 666: true
      [3:44:34 PM] Wyzard97: There will BE a new pope, but he will NOT have the office as per the real Jesus and as bestowed on Simon Peter
      [3:45:04 PM] Kali 666: i guess i don't even want its symbol there
      [3:45:08 PM] Kali 666: nothing
      [3:45:14 PM] Wyzard97: So like the Hajj and the Kaaba at Mecca with the 'stoning of the devil-shaitan' it is a meaningless facade and ritual

      [3:47:13 PM] Kali 666: [3:20 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< NK just detonated another 'nuke' apparently
      do you have a link for this?
      [3:48:14 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know if this is mainstream yet in terms of the web
      [3:48:27 PM] Wyzard97: And I cant load biblegateway

      [3:49:53 PM] Kali 666: North Korea probably just detonated a nuke.
      4.9 magnitude quake detected in general area of the test site. previous nuclear tests were 4.1 to 4.5. this one was 4.9.
      the quake was described as unusual compared to most quakes as it the case with nuke tests or other manmade detonations and so forth. the seismic wave pattern differs from naturally generated quakes.
      so far no one has said that this is a nuclear test. if it was sampling missions will detect radio isotopes in the air down wind within the next few days.
      north korea was scheduled to do their nuclear test next month. so this would be early. perhaps they decided we weren't ****ed off enough by the test happening next month which violated UN sanctions anyway.


      [3:50:15 PM] Wyzard97: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/artificial-earthquake-detected-in-north-korea-may-be-nuclear-test/story-e6frg6so-1226576256804
      [3:50:22 PM] Kali 666: well there was a small quake detected in north korea still not 100% sure if it was a quake or nuke test.
      http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/artificial-quake-signals-possible-north-korea-nuclear-test-report/article8479413/?cmpid=rss1

      [3:51:03 PM] Wyzard97: It is simply political aggravation
      [3:51:23 PM] Wyzard97: The have openly declared the USA to be 'their enemy'
      [3:54:47 PM] Wyzard97: biblegateway not loading must be overload because of people checking on the pope lol
      [3:57:05 PM] Kali 666: heh
      [3:58:56 PM] Wyzard97: I am still trying to get the 'Satan is falling like lightning from heaven' as the Vatican thunderbolt event
      [3:59:40 PM] Wyzard97: Raven, can you get this KJV?
      [3:59:52 PM] Wyzard97: Raven knows how to get scripture codes lol
      [4:02:59 PM] Kali 666:

      The Ecstatic of Tours (19th Century)
      Before the war breaks out again, food will be scarce and expensive. There will be little work for the workers, and fathers will hear their children crying for food. There will be earthquakes and signs in the sun. Toward the end, darkness will cover the Earth. When everyone believes that peace is ensured, when everyone least expects it, the great happening will begin. Revolution will break out in Italy almost at the same time as in France. For some time the Church will be without a Pope.


      [4:03:28 PM] Kali 666: and aparently another seer saw this too
      [4:03:33 PM] Kali 666: Vatican with no head
      [4:03:34 PM] Kali 666: http://www.hissheep.org/catholic/papal_prophecies.html

      oh look
      [4:05:02 PM] Kali 666:

      Pope Pius IX (1878)
      Since the whole world is against God and His Church, it is evident that He has reserved the victory over His enemies to Himself. This will be more obvious when it is considered that the root of all our present evils is to be found in the fact that those with talents and vigor crave earthly pleasures, and not only desert God but repudiate Him altogether. Thus it appears they cannot be brought back in any other way except through an act that cannot be ascribed to any secondary agency, and thus all will be forced to look to the supernatural...
      There will come a great wonder, which will fill the world with astonishment. This wonder will be preceded by the triumph of revolution. The church will suffer exceedingly. Her servants and her chieftain will be mocked, scourged, and martyred.


      [4:05:25 PM] Kali 666: [4:03 PM] Kali 666:
      <<< There will come a great wonder, which will fill the world with astonishment.the sign in the heavens

      [4:05:43 PM] Kali 666: when everyone looks up...just like that remote viewer said
      [4:06:00 PM] Kali 666: it was also in the third secret of Fatima
      [4:08:27 PM] Wyzard97: Yes and symbolically this is this ISON comet and some other things around February 15th and in March-April. ISON is due November to December
      [4:09:00 PM] Wyzard97: But imo it is Revelation.19, as the 2nd Coming as your Alejandro seems to say
      [4:09:20 PM] Wyzard97: But if this means spaceships, I doubt , though possible
      [4:09:34 PM] Wyzard97: This sort of 4D evidence, as said to Rok, wouldl change the matrix in an instant
      [4:09:43 PM] Wyzard97: It is preparatory atm
      [4:10:07 PM] Kali 666: Luke 10:18-20
      [4:10:45 PM] Wyzard97: Yes thanks, this is what I wanted but NOT New Version
      [4:10:48 PM] Kali 666:

      Luke 10:18-20
      King James Version (KJV)
      18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
      19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
      20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.


      [4:10:54 PM] Kali 666: there
      [4:10:55 PM] Wyzard97: It is ok though in this instance
      [4:11:18 PM] Wyzard97: Oh good
      [4:11:49 PM] Wyzard97: Names written in heaven - see this?
      [4:11:54 PM] Kali 666: yes
      [4:12:12 PM] Wyzard97: This is what we were discussing in the dead alive ones crystallizing in the 4 generations
      [4:12:29 PM] Wyzard97: The 2nd one being as as the Thuban Dragons
      [4:13:45 PM] Wyzard97: The mythical Dragon of 2012 becoming more lower D as the slithering Serpent of Eden
      [4:13:54 PM] Wyzard97: Both water element and Black
      [4:14:51 PM] Kali 666: and now a Dragon who set flight
      [4:15:33 PM] Kali 666: i saw a cometa at teh beach..reminded me of it
      [4:15:48 PM] Wyzard97: Yes it is on
      [4:16:59 PM] Wyzard97: Xeia, you could connect to biblegateway?
      [4:17:07 PM] Wyzard97: I still cannot
      [4:17:59 PM] Kali 666:

      Luke 10
      King James Version (KJV)
      1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
      2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
      3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
      4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
      5 And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
      6 And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
      7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
      8 And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you:
      9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
      10 But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,
      11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
      12 But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city.
      13 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
      14 But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you.
      15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.
      16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
      17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
      18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
      19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
      20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
      21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
      22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
      23 And he turned him unto his disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
      24 For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
      25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
      26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
      27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
      28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
      29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
      30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
      31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
      32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
      33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
      34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
      35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
      36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
      37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
      38 Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.
      39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
      40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
      41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
      42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.


      [4:18:35 PM] Wyzard97: Lol, you read my comment about Miriam and Martha before?
      [4:18:36 PM] Kali 666: yes Tony i can
      [4:18:40 PM] Kali 666: YES!!
      [4:18:46 PM] Kali 666: haha
      [4:18:48 PM] Wyzard97: Weird, yes must be Oz internet
      [4:19:31 PM] Wyzard97: Raven is more interested in learning than Martha but Xeia serves in deeds
      [4:19:45 PM] Kali 666: lol
      [4:19:59 PM] Kali 666: oh dear
      [4:20:06 PM] Wyzard97: Mary is Miriam here
      [4:20:12 PM] Kali 666: ofc
      [4:20:41 PM] Wyzard97: They are sisters and know Jesus face to face
      [4:20:55 PM] Wyzard97: Ergo they can remember him in the future
      [4:21:23 PM] Wyzard97: Lazarus is their brother, now who could this be?
      [4:21:59 PM] Wyzard97: In archetypical associations of course, not as a 'reincarnation' or such Nabs
      [4:22:06 PM] Kali 666: hmm James?
      [4:22:13 PM] Wyzard97: No James is an apostle
      [4:22:24 PM] Wyzard97: As is Rok btw
      [4:22:39 PM] Wyzard97: I let you figure this out
      [4:22:41 PM] Kali 666: Rok is Matthew
      [4:22:50 PM] Wyzard97: Are you sure?
      [4:22:59 PM] Wyzard97: Tax collector yes
      [4:23:10 PM] Wyzard97: Despised by many
      [4:23:52 PM] Kali 666: or was...rather
      [4:24:17 PM] Wyzard97: Yes these are symbols absorbed by the 24 Elders
      [4:24:27 PM] Kali 666: now he is an entirely new reconfigured Superhuman being
      [4:24:51 PM] Wyzard97: Dragons are Hyperspacetime beings yes
      [4:25:35 PM] Wyzard97: You know who you consider a dragon's brother Sui, dont mention it here
      [4:25:56 PM] Wyzard97: But this will explain a few things to you
      [4:26:09 PM] Kali 666: it already does yes
      [4:26:52 PM] Kali 666: :)
      [4:28:28 PM] Wyzard97: Wonderful!
      [4:28:59 PM] Wyzard97: Brothers and sisters of the past reconfigured in the future

      [4:28:59 PM] Wyzard97: Brothers and sisters of the past reconfigured in the future
      [4:32:45 PM] Kali 666: [4:21 PM] Wyzard97:
      <<< Are you sure?did you think of Rok more like doubting Thomas?

      [4:35:03 PM] Wyzard97: Nono I agree with you and 'doubting Thomas' is also Didymos, the Twin Toma
      [4:36:27 PM] Wyzard97: This is all blended, but with Peter, James and John and Thomas more singled out but then Matthew writing a Gospel under Aquarius the AngelMan see?
      [4:36:50 PM] Wyzard97: Judas is singled out too
      [4:37:12 PM] Wyzard97: To become the sexchange operative for the New SheHe from the HeShe
      [4:37:57 PM] Wyzard97: Luke is Taurus-Earth and Mark is Fire-Leo and John is Scorpio-Eagle-Water
      [4:38:10 PM] Wyzard97: Matthew is Air-Aquarius
      [4:38:32 PM] Kali 666: mmm
      [4:38:51 PM] Wyzard97: So as Aries, Rok also becomes Mark and as Didymos he associates with the Phoenix of John
      [4:39:10 PM] Wyzard97: The astrochart then shows how those 4 gospels blend together
      [4:39:24 PM] Wyzard97: All 12 are within Rok
      [4:39:34 PM] Kali 666: (inlove)
      [4:39:35 PM] Wyzard97: But manifest in different ways
      [4:39:50 PM] Wyzard97: The 12 go to 24 and 72
      [4:40:17 PM] Wyzard97: This becomes the multiDness of Dragons or starhumans
      [4:40:39 PM] Wyzard97: I dont know many details on this Xeia, only the overall agenda
      [4:48:52 PM] Kali 666: i'll go to sleep now Tony
      [4:49:13 PM] Kali 666: looking forward for more good news like the one yesterday
      [4:49:23 PM] Kali 666: ;)
      [4:49:41 PM] Kali 666: nochesitas!
      [4:50:00 PM] Kali 666: Xau
      [4:50:18 PM] Wyzard97: Buenas dear




      A sign from above? Lightning strikes Vatican after Pope Benedict resigns
      Date
      February 12, 2013 - 10:05AMMegan Levy

      Breaking news reporter

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      Electrifying reaction to Pope's shock exit
      Social media is bursting at the seams with discussion, speculation and a healthy dose of humour over the Pope's surprise resignation.
      Pope Benedict XVI's resignation came like a bolt from the blue overnight.
      And the weather around the Vatican was eerily appropriate, with lightning striking St Peter's Basilica, one of the holiest Catholic sites, on the same day that Pope Benedict announced he would be stepping down.

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      A message from above? ... lightning strikes St Peter's dome at the Vatican hours after Pope Benedict XVI resigned. Photo: AFP
      Global news agency Agence France-Presse published an image of lightning striking the basilica's dome, which it said was taken "on the day the Pope" announced his resignation.
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      AFP said the striking image was captured by photographer Filippo Monteforte, who works for Italian national news and photo agency ANSA.
      Monteforte's website shows that he has photographed the Pope extensively for for more than a decade. He is also listed as a AFP photographer, with a portfolio of his work on the news agency's website.

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      Stepping down ... Pope Benedict XVI. Photo: AP


      The image was doing the rounds on social media overnight, with some people questioning its authenticity.
      Fairfax Media photographer Nick Moir said the image looked genuine.

      "It's probably not that rare for St Peter's to get hit," he said.
      "The bolt is hitting a lightning rod to the side of the cross, it seems."

      Although Moir said there was no way to verify when the photograph was taken.
      Pope Benedict's resignation is the first by a pontiff for almost 600 years, and his decision stunned the Roman Catholic church.
      In an address read out in Latin letter to his Catholic brethren,the 85-year-old said his advanced age and the pace of change in the modern world had left him unable to “adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me”.
      He will step down as head of the Catholic church on February 28.

      The Vatican newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano, said he had made up his mind nearly a year ago after trips to Mexico and Cuba tired him out.
      His 89-year-old brother, Georg Ratzinger, said: "Age is weighing on him. My brother would like more rest at this age."
      Once he stands down, Benedict will be taken to Castel Gandolfo, the papal summer retreat near Rome, and will subsequently live in a cloistered monastery.
      Previous Popes have stayed in the role until their death, despite physical and mental decay, in the belief that their prayer and suffering as they approach the end are a part of their role.
      The last pope to resign was Pope Gregory XII in 1415, to help resolve a dispute between the three people who claimed to be the Pope.


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