mp3 mp3 Posts: 174 Join date: 2010-04-09 Post n°1 What happened to Avalon? mp3 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:53 am Everybody has their own way of understanding the changes taking place. And to lay out a whole theory on what may or may not be happening isn't possible in a post or even article. But not many would deny something is going on. And most people have way more questions than answers. I proceed from assumptions which match or at least don't contradict what I've felt, thought, heard, intuited, read, etc. Here's an off the top of my head list of assumptions which I base my conclusions on. I assume the enormous preponderance of intuitive insights regarding the consciousness shift are not all wrong. The current events have been foreseen for hundreds and even thousands of years. I assume they're not all made up or mistaken. I assume that most of these theories and "seeings" have some truth, or at least aren't total fabrications. I assume the most logical conclusion is that we are in the midst of something awesome. From there, you can decide whether awesomely good, or awesomely bad, or awesomely "it's all over". I assume we don't yet have the whole story, except perhaps in bits and pieces in different locations and from different sources. But I also believe we are piecing the puzzle together. I assume we have help in whatever process we are going through, because help is in evidence all over the place. Others have other opinions on it. I'm relating mine. I assume there is truth in the idea that intuition is of use, and actually comes from higher consciousness. Not the least of which reason is that I can't really see how something limited (brain) can pierce something unlimited. I assume that many of the descriptions of the realms we are currently playing in, are apt. I know there are theories purporting mass hysteria and mass hypnosis, but I don't support that these are why so many perceive into what they call higher dimensions or realms. I conclude therefore that intuition of our own, and answers to our specific questions from higher dimensional beings and groupings of beings have enough potential merit to warrant a good consideration. An excellent example of such intuition and instruction is the idea of harmonic resonance. I see how this works. I've considered many descriptions from higher realm beings of how this works, and when I look at it for myself, I find I can bear witness. So I don't feel this can be dismissed. resonance tells you therefore, whether what you are perceiving is of similar or disparate frequency. I know many find what they consider "new agey" terms to be off putting, but I don't apologize for their use. I find them apt descriptors. I get from the guides I'm in contact with, that this is a primary interface in their neck of the woods. They base much on this resonance. It's another more technical expression of "like attracts like". You gravitate towards what vibrates as you do. The often used example of a tuning fork pinged, will start another fork tuned to vibrate at the same frequency in motion and making sound. We may think of it in our reality terms as agreement, or like-mindedness. But you know if what you encounter fits with you or if it doesn't. This is something we are now relearning. We've been functioning in a band of frequencies which has been described as extremely dense of compacted, and which has other unique quailties which are endemic to this level of existence. Some examples of this uniqueness are time functioning in a way that appears linear, or sequential, and a whole raft of special interfaces which permit us the illusion of being things we are not. And we use things not needed outside of this realm, like logical minds and self perpetuating egos. We also have had to shut off much of the perception and higher interfacing tools we'd normally use, in order to not ruin our experience here by remaining aware it was all illusion. Our minds are a primary means by which we can blend perceptions and thoughts in such a way that the illusion is maintained. We blend things to smooth out the illusions. Like your eyes. It's known for a long time how visual mechanics work. all it takes is around 30 pictures per second, each a little different, hitting our eyes in quick succession, to give the illusion of smooth motion. It's really no different than that. It's an interface. Our minds or brains or some facility, blends the pictures together into the illusion of motion, which we happily accept. The truth is, that is how our whole 3D reality works. We use the interface of our minds to blend all the things our higher senses would show for what they are, in order to enjoy this 3D experience to the fullest. It is clear to me at least, that since we had to forget so much in order to be able to come here, that we set in place some wake up calls and reminders which would present themselves when it was time to start to come out of the illusions. This is what I believe we have been experiencing and what we will continue to experience for some while to come. You don't wake somebody up by throwing them in icey water. You do it more gently. What I perceive happening, is the tools we held in place to permit and strengthen the illusions, are now being broken down, and rendered inoperable. Let me start another post to describe the one I believe we just saw break down before our very eyes, in my next post. I don't want to leave an intimidatingly long post here for people to confront. mp3 mp3 Posts: 174 Join date: 2010-04-09 Post n°2 Re: What happened to Avalon? mp3 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:54 am What I believe we have just lost, is the ability to use one of those blendings described above. This one has to do with ignoring harmonic frequency mismatching. we used to have all of these little techniques to aid in this. Manners, etiquette, social structures, etc. they were useful as interfaces, in that they permitted us to avoid killing each other too much, while still maintaining the illusions. My higher guides and many others who convey messages from lighter realms, agree with almost no dissention, that the big experiment of 3D was in undertaking to re-merge the artificially torn apart polarities, in the denses, most arduous environment we could come up with. Our existence here is all about polarity, duality, dichotomy etc.. It's built into the template. it permeates all of our activities at a structural level. Everything we encounter or perceive has the ability to be polarized. Or split into 2 opposing thought forms. No need to go into it much. I think it's pretty well known about. Since learning this and observing carefully, I see this as true. Or as close as we can come to true in this dimension. There are energetic waves coming from a variety of sources, which are being used to boost certain things, and destablize others to drive our wake up process along, since we're asleep at the wheel, so to speak. The current destablizing wave appears to have removed the blending mechanism which used to allow us to overlook frequency mismatches. we used to be able to ignore when we encountered something which simply didn't resonate with us at all, but no longer seem able to do that. This much I believe is clearly visible if looked for. this holds up with the idea that we are now taking advantage of the triggers we put in place long ago, as we conceive of time, in order to migrate out of the 3rd dimensional structures and into the 5th dimensional realm we have selected as our next playground. So as we soak up the energies which are reconstructing our shut of upper structures in our energetic fields, we are dissolving the lower level structures which can not survive the migration into the next dimensions, The transitional 4th and stable 5th. Nest post is what I believe has been going on in our communities as related to the above theories on the general parameters of the consciousness shift. mp3 mp3 Posts: 174 Join date: 2010-04-09 Post n°3 Re: What happened to Avalon? mp3 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:55 am In the upper 4th and 5th and rest of the higher dimensions, disharmony is lessoned and then absent. Since frequency matching is the primary attractor, you simply don't encounter frequencies which don't match yours. Space and time are not fixed the way they are here, so you can't be forced together with something by circumstances or anything like that. You wouldn't accidentally run into something which was of a much different vibratory frequency than you were. but here on earth in 3D, we do it with a vengeance. We're here to essentially get over the polarities. We separated them all out, and built them into the fabric of our reality here, and use the law of attraction to arrange to run into them. The hope is that we will gain much greater understanding from the fullest experiencing of the most extreme expressions of these intertwined opposing thoughtforms. We used to be able to ignore disharmony to a large degree, and some times use available tools to come to harmony. We could overlook disharmony and still function, where harmony could not be achieved, yet circumstances held us together. our ability to overlook disharmony or frequency mismatch seems to have been largely removed from the tool box. we must now balance the energies which don't vibrate in sympathy, or we must separate them. We must permit like to attract like. The old tools of permitting disharmony would be disasterous in the higher dimensions, where manifestation is an instant creation. Even in the lowest available higher realm, the lower 4th, or astral realms, this is going to be a pretty rough experience for those who can't consciously get it now, while there are strong supporting energies for changing of the templates. Those who aren't aiming very high in this shift process, are going to find their demons coming out of the closet for real. the astral realms permit form. just not the density of 3D. But these forms will be quite real enough. You want a Dragon? You've got a dragon. lol. What I believe I've just witnessed and participated in on the avalon community is a manifestation of these energies trying to push this process along, without a unified consensus to let the process run itself out and complete. We have free will and free choice in all things, even if the illusion negates that idea. On some level, choice is never, can never be denied us. And since this whole 3D experiment has been our experiment, our free choice must still fit within the agreement structures of our collective consciousness on earth. Actually consciousnesses, plural, because there is not just one, and that's why harmony could not be achieved. There is a lot of support for the idea that we have tried several times before, to bring this game to some sort of conclusion, and usually failed as a collective exercise. The effect was that individuals found that elusive balance and harmony and ascended back to the higher realms, and some of them are the ones now here to help us in our attempt. But as a collective we've never actually made it as a group and managed to change the whole game upwards. We always had some graduates and some staying behind to learn and practice some more. This time has been marked as the one where we go for all the marbles. We have made the decision that we are going for it, and have set a series of stepped up triggers in place which will keep turning up the heat until they can't be ignored any more by anyone. Some of us are not ready to see this through, and so will not stay for the rest of the ride and eventual flip to the new earth, in the density free higher dimension playground we have our lovely Gaia and higher dimensional friends helping us build in our other aspects. Those who are not staying are going to be involved in some of the die off we have heard we should expect. What is happening, is they are going out in style, by being in an exact right place at an exact right time, to create a vortex into which we can draw some needed facility for our support and growth. I can't recall the description of what the 04 tsunami was focused on, but the Haiti quake was focused on creating an opportunity for the rest of us to make a huge leap up in our ability to hold love for one another. Their tragedy, brought an outpouring of love from around the world, which has set a facility in place to permit us an easier time to find compassionate love. The 911 event was another one, but had dualistic energies involved. The one was the negative blanket intended by the perps of the event, but the great beings here to help us along, together with the many people aware on some level of what we are doing here, drove a second wave of energy around the world immediately on the heels of the fear generated but the false flag. The second wave created was a lower amplitude but high frequency of love and compassion for the victims (so perceived) of the attack. Instead of the world hunkering down in fear and anger, enough people transmuted the energies to love and compassion, that the end envisioned was halted. Barely, but yes. The envisioned end was not accomplished. We forestall the imposition of tyranny and fear long enough to be able to continue the process towards our chosen destination of Love and 5th dimensional reality. Anyway, I was on about free will and choice. Since we all have free will and choice, we are using it, and creating different approaches to the final result we've agreed to. we here, working on what we are working on, are all going to the same place, and we are simply using different routes to get there. And being in 3D where our minds and egos are primary interface tools, this tends to create apparent conflict where there needn't be any at all. I've noticed in so many of the recent interactions on Avalon, that I disagreed very strongly with many who were forwarding one thing or another, yet at the same time, I also noticed that when they took a minute to explain what they were doing and what their intentions were, I was in full agreement with, save only some parts of the model in use. This is funny as hell. Fighting like crazy with people you agree with almost totally. lol. I think I have isolated the point of departure, where we were unable to find the sought after harmony, and why it is place. Free will again plays in. According to the assumed to be correct theory, we are here to work out duality. The corollary is that when the duality is worked out, we will have created the conditions which permit the shift to go forward. Some of us have simply moved farther along on this track and have little remnant energy invested in the polarities. Others have more work to do and are still pretty much immersed in the structures of polarity as a foundation for their reality. In other words, still being held in thrall by polarity, it permeates every aspect of their reality. It's always about black and white. It's always about "which side are you on". It's not "are you on a side". It's which side. They can not conceive of the state of neutral. It is simply a trick to them. If you are pretending to be neutral, you are with them, because nobody on my side is neutral. So strangely, we witnessed a lot of conflict springing up between those who fighting on one side or another, and those who sought nothing but balance and harmony or the opportunity to continue searching for it until joy was found. In my opinion, where it went wrong, is at the top levels of control of the playing field, where polarity became official policy. Bill and Richard and several members chattering in their ears, decided there were evil people working at sowing dissent who needed removal at all costs. They solidified the polarities active in the community. this made a safe space for the polarized to play out and act out their dramas. Those who are in universe saving battles against the forces of darkness or evil. that just one way of looking at it predicated upon one particular, or a set of similar models being used as templates to guide growth towards the restoration of balance, love and harmony, compassion. Another model, and the one I've been using, is that all of these demons are simply expressions of our own issues in polarity manifesting as opposing metaphorical forces for the purposes of being cleared. the energetic waves washing over us from multiple sources right now are in support of our purging these old structures which hold perceived opposites apart for context, so we can re integrate them in harmony in preparation for life in our new home, where their separation isn't possible. Next post will be some dish on specifics in the avalon dramas put in context of the above. mp3 mp3 Posts: 174 Join date: 2010-04-09 Post n°4 Re: What happened to Avalon? mp3 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:56 am And finally, I see the process which just played out in avalon as having been very poorly handled for a number of reasons. On reason is, the arrival of the Abraxas/Thuban phenomenon was undeniably the greatest triggering mechanism I've seen on Avalon, or anywhere at a small community level. Global consciousness events can be heavier triggers, but That scene on Avalon was a major trigger out of all proportion to what the simply circumstances would allow. Something was going on. And it was going on in a lot of people. People could not figure out what they were looking at or much of what it meant. When I first saw the amount of energy being rolled back and forth, I sat up and took notice, and began to watch what the triggers were, and what the reactions were. I was SO curious to see what the group would take away from this very bizarre interaction. Some saw great insights being revealed and permitted them to trigger grand epiphanies which they were on the event horizon of in any case. Others found having reminders of some of the existing archetypes echoing from antiquity to be too much to bear, and went into reaction mode as though the ancient enemy had come to rejoin the conflict anew. Talk of Dragons sparked fears in some because they have simply not processed out the negative side of the polarities involved. There were no flesh and bone Dragons involved, but they behaved as though they believed there were, some of them. And others were processing their fears from slightly higher levels like the lower astral planes, where they believed they could encounter evil entities coming to enslave or absorb/consume them, and of course Abraxasinas played the part and announced the coming harvest, and described things in terms very supportive of the triggers these people were having activated. Others came by, tasted the energies, and simple recognized there was nothing there for them. They had no magnetic triggers to draw them in. But those who did, found the attraction irresistible. How may came declared it bullshit or evil or not worth their time, or gibberish, or a take over attempt, but yet were not able to take their attention away. And they had no clue of what was playing out. Especially Bill. No even the beginning of a clue. Somebody wrote him with their take, he went and took a peek, decided it was the product of delusion, and set in his mind the demand that this be removed. At first he acted more or less directly, by speaking out with the strong suggestion it be removed, along with the tacit instruction to the staff that this is the result he expected, and Anchor acted upon it. Well that was a mistake compounded by another mistake. The members were well on their way towards sorting it out themselves. Then butch Cassidy storms in and takes care of some business, and muddies the waters some more. the thread and member is restored. The members continued processing the available material the highly charged triggers dredged up. Meanwhile, Bill digs in his heels and becomes even more determined to see delusional Abraxasinas and his postings gone. He plays the likely dupe who had his own triggers pulled earlier on in the process begun By Abrax, and waits for an opportunity or a misstep which can be capitalized upon to get rid of the enemy of the community. Celine probably played little part in this except to smear her crazy all over everything and everybody. So I don't know who's idea it was to set Abrax up but some pretext was used to offload him on a trumped up charge, and thee has been damage control and cover ups and unjust treatment of those who were not fooled by the lying and obfuscating. Had these jokers not done this, this whole thing would have been over and done with long ago. Now it's not going anywhere. Now it's festering because people no longer have the ability to ignore the disharmony they perceive and pretend it's not there. Restoring harmony requires the truth come out, because people have their attention magnetically held in place. I know many people that I've talked to who said I'm walking away from this. I'm done. It's over. I've seen only one do it. The rest have been unable to break the elector magnetic attraction. harmony is demanded. And blending the true with the false, or ignoring the untruths in the interest of trying to restore harmony simply are no longer on the table. It's harmonize or withdraw energy. but we haven't figured out how to break the magnetic pull. So it continues, and the idiots continue to believe they can hide and cover up and shut people up, and that the excitement surround the new forum will make this go away, and they are just wrong about that. This push to harmonize via truth coming out and injustices made right, is being driven by energies which won't be denied. This won't blend away. mp3 mp3 Posts: 174 Join date: 2010-04-09 Post n°5 Re: What happened to Avalon? mp3 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:57 am Thanks a lot for the responses. (I only copied my own posts over from the other forum) I really appreciate them. I realize how much work it is to chew through my big, wordy, "mind-y" posts of the type above. I'm sure it's much more work to read them than it is to write them. They are part of my purpose in being here (earth-now). I translate. I reduce "know" to "understand" to "puzzled together" to "written down". It helps me to examine what I know or perceive or intuit, and display it in logical format. I take the mirror and write all over it with graffiti. It helps me to do it. If it is of use to anyone else, then I'm grateful for the opportunity to be of some service. We're all working this stuff out in our own way. Guest Guest Guest Post n°6 Re: What happened to Avalon? Guest on Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:13 am Hi MP3, you may want to read this article to understand what happened, who are the Dracs and why they were attracted to avalon http://www.whale.to/b/erdl.html#Mind_control_for_the_exploitation_of_the_female_energy_ Remeber all the talk about the "divine feminine"? I wish I had discovered this article before, it would have saved a lot of tears, specially from us women Love mp3 mp3 Posts: 174 Join date: 2010-04-09 Post n°7 Re: What happened to Avalon? mp3 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:50 am stardustaquarion wrote:Hi MP3, you may want to read this article to understand what happened, who are the Dracs and why they were attracted to avalon http://www.whale.to/b/erdl.html#Mind_control_for_the_exploitation_of_the_female_energy_ Remeber all the talk about the "divine feminine"? I wish I had discovered this article before, it would have saved a lot of tears, specially from us women Love Thanks for the suggestion, Stardustaquarion. I'm in the midst of a major study project right now, so can't give the article a thorough read. But I scanned it and read portions. I get the idea. I take it you found this article empowering? I don't find what I read to be very empowering. It seems to hold up the idea we can be done to against our will. This is a concept I've learned to be fallacious in the extreme. I don't doubt the existence of the Draco's and Reptilians and Greys and that they've been up to (what would seem to us to be) no good. But I am sovereign in myself. Nothing I refuse entry, visits. and it's been a long while since I have had an "invasion" personally. And many other sovereign beings share this view. I don't discount the reality as a possible, or potential, or probable, given certain defined conditions, But neither do I give it any power in the future I'm in the process of creating. Those beings are of no consequence in my universe, and my universe agrees with me on that point. Others will have different functional realities. I know this and don't judge it. But we are simply not restricted to one collective reality anymore. We have choice. And perspectives that invite us to see ourselves as anything but the sovereign beings we are, with full authority over our existence, simply don't work for me. I'm happy to have everyone supporting the reality of their choice. Until they try to enforce the idea that "their" reality is "the" reality. Because that is no longer a given. Our creative powers are now once again available for our full and knowing use, and multiple creations will be co-existing for a while. The question isn't who's right and who's wrong. The question for me, is how will the various participants who hold differing views, do at granting others the sovereign right to hold the perspectives of their choice, without feeling the need to correct them. Guest Guest Guest Post n°8 Re: What happened to Avalon? Guest on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:38 pm No, my point is that there are many people that are not as wise as you and don't have soveregnity over themselves. I consider myself a sovereing being and refuse entry to anything that is not in resonance with source so I know what you mean But it is my personal oppinion that many in Avalon where infiltrated and played against each other to a frenzy which went beyond reason for what it was at the core. That can be explained by the strategy the reptilians have on brain control and possession. I personally think that is happening more and more as the secret services try to debunk forums like avalon to stop the general public from accessing information on what may be happening I myself live and let live, accept other peoples decision regarding what choices they do. Mercuriel Mercuriel Admin Posts: 3347 Join date: 2010-04-07 Age: 49 Location: Walking the Path... Post n°9 Re: What happened to Avalon? Mercuriel on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:15 pm stardustaquarion wrote:No, my point is that there are many people that are not as wise as you and don't have soveregnity over themselves. I consider myself a sovereing being and refuse entry to anything that is not in resonance with source so I know what you meanBut it is my personal oppinion that many in Avalon where infiltrated and played against each other to a frenzy which went beyond reason for what it was at the core. That can be explained by the strategy the reptilians have on brain control and possession. I personally think that is happening more and more as the secret services try to debunk forums like avalon to stop the general public from accessing information on what may be happeningI myself live and let live, accept other peoples decision regarding what choices they do. Wow - This is a great Post and I agree with it wholeheartedly. I can only add to it in alignment saying nothing better than has been stated already. That said - I will say this. Yes - Some of Us are Sovereigns and for some of Us the Tables are even turned on Them as regards those interactions with Us as Sovereigns. What I saw from the Thuban Materials and the Interactions caused or birthed by them were Myriad and Many so I will detail only a few here so You can see how I - As a Commonality - Viewed Them... At the Upper Level I saw these Interactions as a need for whatever reason by those given charge of providing Us - Mankind in essence - A place to come INTO Awareness and find out the Truth no matter how hard it may be. This means that no matter what was to occur - The driving of things into Control Issues and Non-Integration was a Lose/Lose Situation for PA and It's stated Mandate and or Mission... That Polarities were displayed by a great many - Displayed that the Polarities were at play - And that displayed to Me much of the same Ole same Ole... For those as Forum Members that got caught up in it all - It has to be seen that It is due to the Energy We Focus on. You Fight You get Defense. You Defend You get a Fight. You say No and walk away - Its just plain over for You in Your Reality. In fact - Now at a Conscious Level - As it doesn't resonate with You and others - You actually create a New One with Beings of like Mind to actually move into. While in Prior times this may have meant and likely did - Translation through Death to another Reality - Consciousness is Mind - And Mind rules Reality... Moving to Center and the Middle Path of Integration was/is always will be about moving into that Integration through knowing - Bringing One on that Path into Awareness by the removal of Fear and or Duality. It is Our task then as You have so aptly begun here MP3 - To show Our Fellowes that when We allow others to Push Our Buttons - Whos really pushing them and for what reasons ? At that point through Awareness - Your Buttons change and They can no longer be pushed in the same way - Thereby allowing Us as Experiencers - A Different Reality - A Different Vision of what We will allow through coming into Awareness of what We have allowed in the Past. Hmmm. I may Post more in here and likely will but Alas - I'm off to Moderate a bit as is My Duty to Serve... Last edited by Mercuriel on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:44 pm; edited 1 time in total _________________ Namaste... Peace, Light, Love, Harmony and Unity... TRANCOSO TRANCOSO Posts: 3920 Join date: 2010-04-10 Location: AMSTERDAM Post n°10 Re: What happened to Avalon? TRANCOSO on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:20 pm stardustaquarion wrote:No, my point is that there are many people that are not as wise as you and don't have soveregnity over themselves. I consider myself a sovereing being and refuse entry to anything that is not in resonance with source so I know what you mean But it is my personal oppinion that many in Avalon where infiltrated and played against each other to a frenzy which went beyond reason for what it was at the core. That can be explained by the strategy the reptilians have on brain control and possession. I personally think that is happening more and more as the secret services try to debunk forums like avalon to stop the general public from accessing information on what may be happening I myself live and let live, accept other peoples decision regarding what choices they do. Or/and it's just a bunch (Bill Ryan & his Mod Police) of controle freaks who decided that they are more important than the members of 'their' forum. So they turned it into the worst kind of 'truth platform' you can imagine: AVALONOGY DONATICS. I don't know what happened to Bill, but he's either overplaying his hand big time, or it was just a set-up to eliminate a very popular gathering place of 'free thinkers', & he is on the payroll of TPTB. But I look at it on the bright side: it meant the birth of 'The Mists', where I feel a lot more at ease than I ever felt at PA. That 'Love & Light' hype really started to itch my nerves. , & !!! Guest Guest Guest Post n°11 Re: What happened to Avalon? Guest on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:42 pm I agree with you Trancoso, I feel much more at ease here. burgundia burgundia Posts: 4626 Join date: 2010-04-09 Location: Poland Post n°12 Re: What happened to Avalon? burgundia on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:51 pm I just follow my heart when it comes to choices....I do not feel like even visiting A2 any more...I used to do it till a few days ago. It lost my interest. I do not know what has caused that. I'd go there only if there were problems with this forum. This is strange but I can only compare it to the feeling I had once when I just couldn't turn on TV because something was stopping me from doing it. Last edited by burgundia on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:53 pm; edited 1 time in total burgundia burgundia Posts: 4626 Join date: 2010-04-09 Location: Poland Post n°13 Re: What happened to Avalon? burgundia on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:52 pm Of course I feel so much at ease here...it's like I can breathe freely... mp3 mp3 Posts: 174 Join date: 2010-04-09 Post n°14 Re: What happened to Avalon? mp3 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:15 pm stardustaquarion wrote:No, my point is that there are many people that are not as wise as you and don't have soveregnity over themselves. I consider myself a sovereing being and refuse entry to anything that is not in resonance with source so I know what you meanBut it is my personal oppinion that many in Avalon where infiltrated and played against each other to a frenzy which went beyond reason for what it was at the core. That can be explained by the strategy the reptilians have on brain control and possession. I personally think that is happening more and more as the secret services try to debunk forums like avalon to stop the general public from accessing information on what may be happeningI myself live and let live, accept other peoples decision regarding what choices they do. We may have a slight misalignment on definition. To me, Sovereignty is a "Be", not a "Have". Meaning you are a sovereign, not a being who has sovereignty. It's a trick the PTB use to get us to lesson ourselves. They say they will grant us certain rights, for consideration (payment) of course. That's a scam, because as free beings, we don't need anything granted to us. If you are free, you are free. If you are "given" freedom, then are or recently were, a slave. I know you didn't take the idea of having sovereignty to the place of being something that is given or taken or reserved to oneself or surrendered. That was my addition. But from my perspective, Sovereign is what we are. Things we have, which demonstrate that we are sovereigns, is "authority", "seniority", "command", "free will", etc. My perspective doesn't discount that Avalon was infiltrated, but only the passive role of the infiltratees, if I may coin a word. Free will as a sovereign being is paramount, as I see things, and would only be abrogated or abridged with consent. Even where that consent was achieved through trickery or deceit, there would still have to have been consent, on some level. This to me, extends to all of the activities of any negatively oriented entities as well, meaning they would need permission to do what they do, and if they are doing it, they have permission. mp3 mp3 Posts: 174 Join date: 2010-04-09 Post n°15 Re: What happened to Avalon? mp3 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:21 pm burgundia wrote: I just follow my heart when it comes to choices....I do not feel like even visiting A2 any more...I used to do it till a few days ago. It lost my interest. I do not know what has caused that. I'd go there only if there were problems with this forum. This is strange but I can only compare it to the feeling I had once when I just couldn't turn on TV because something was stopping me from doing it. I went to Avalon 2 once, when somebody posted a sneak peek link on Avalon 1. It holds no attraction for me. While At Avalon towards the end, you could "feel" something there that placed itself above you. Some haughtiness, or sense of superior control. Something very PTBish feeling. And there was every evidence that it would be even worse at Avalon 2. That cured me of any interest I might once have been able to work up. bye bye. Oh, and I'm still in the mists on Av1. lolly lol.