Old Ruthven Lines - Not Accurate, Just For Reference While Fixing The Others

Discussion in 'SUSAN LYNNE SCHWENGER, Past, Present, Future & NOW' started by CULCULCAN, Aug 20, 2020.

  1. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    THESE LINES ARE RIGHT
    STARTING HERE:

    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    you

    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother
    Murray Bruce "Muff" Schwenger
    your father

    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father, is your grandfather

    Viola Mae Drury - Handy is your grandmother
    Daughter of Dr. George Walker Herbert Drury and Eva 'Effie' Teresa Kopitoski
    is your great grandfather & grandmother


    JAMES HANDY
    his father
    is your great grandfather

    IDA EVA MORTON RUSSELL is your great grandmother
    Daughter of ROBERT J RUSSELL

    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother
    is your 2nd great grandmother

    EDWARD HANDY is your 2nd great grandfather
    Son of Charles handy and Mary Gibbons is your 3rd great grandfather & grandmother
    Son of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy is your 4th great grandfather
    - The Greatest Horseman in The World - Circus - Partner of Astley
    Son of Anthony Handy and Jane Unknown - Handy is your 5th great grandfather & grandmother

    Wife of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy is:
    Mary Huntley - Grant - Handy - Catawba Tribe is your 4th great grandmother
    Daughter of Chief Neil Huntley - Catawba Tribe is your 5th great grandfather

    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father
    is your 3rd great grandfather
    MARION RENNIE - RUTHVEN is your 3rd great grandmother

    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father
    is your 4th great grandfather
    MARGARET THOMPSON is your 4th great grandmother

    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father
    is your 5th great grandfather
    Margret Witherspoon
    Maragaret Wotherspoon - Weatherspoon - Ruthven is your 5th great grandmother

    ENDING HERE;
    I THINK i've submitted all the records that prove to this point
    properly


    THE FOLLOWING LIST is just an old reference
    in case i need to refer to what was there
    (it may OR may NOT be correct)

    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father
    is your 6th Great Grandfather
    Mary Henderson is your 6th Great Grandmother

    John Ruthven
    his father
    is your 7th Great Grandfather
    Marrion Margaret Peadie-Ruthven is your 7th Great Grandmother

    George Ruthven
    his father
    is your 8th Great Grandfather
    Elspeth Hutcheson - Ruthven is your 8th Great Grandmother

    Williame Ruthven
    his father
    is your 9th great grandfather
    Isobell Reid - Ruthven is your 9th great grandmother
    Daughter of James Reid is your 10th great grandfather

    Williame Ruthven
    his father
    is your 10th Great Grandfather
    Marion Clerk is your 10th Great Grandmother

    Mary Gray - Seaton - Ruthven (???)
    his mother
    is your 11th Great Grandmother
    Sir William Ruthven is your 11th Great Grandfather

    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord Ruthven
    his father
    is your 12th Great Grandfather
    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton - Haliburton), 6th Lady of Dirletoun Castle
    his mother
    is your 12th Great Grandmohter

    Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
    his mother

    Andrew Gray, 2nd Lord Gray
    her father

    Patrick Gray, Master of Gray
    his father

    Elizabeth Gray
    his mother

    Sir John Wemyss
    her father

    Annabel Sinclair
    his mother

    Sir William Sinclair of Roslin, 6th Lord of Rosslyn
    her father

    Eleanor de Dreux
    his mother

    Yolande de Coucy, Countess of Coucy
    her mother

    Agnes of Hainaut
    her mother

    Alice of Namur, Countess of Hainaut
    her mother

    Godefroid, comte de Namur
    her father

    Albert III, comte de Namur
    his father

    Regelindis de Namur
    his mother

    Urraca de Lombardía-Ivrea
    her mother

    Willa d'Arles
    her mother

    Willa of Burgundy
    her mother

    Rudolph I, King of Upper Burgundy
    her father
     
  2. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    PERHAPS what the old scot tree looked like

    → Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother → James aka Jim Edward Handy Jr.
    her father → James aka Jim Handy SR.
    his father → Marion aka Marrian Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
    his mother → Alexander Ruthven
    her father → Robert Ruthven, Sr. & Thomson/Thompson
    his father → John Ruthven & Witherspoon
    his father → John Ruthven & Henderson
    his father → John Ruthven & Peadie
    his father → John Ruthven
    his father → Williame Ruthven
    his father → Williame Ruthven & Clerk
    his father

    → Mary Seton
    his mother
    → Marion Gray
    her mother
    → Helen Sinclair, Lady Ogilvy of Airlie *** GOES back to Sinclair of Roslin - orginal builder as a great grandson
     
  3. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

    Messages:
    55,226
    THESE LINES ARE RIGHT
    STARTING HERE:

    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    you

    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother
    Murray Bruce "Muff" Schwenger
    your father

    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father, is your grandfather

    Viola Mae Drury - Handy is your grandmother
    Daughter of Dr. George Walker Herbert Drury and Eva 'Effie' Teresa Kopitoski
    is your great grandfather & grandmother


    JAMES HANDY
    his father
    is your great grandfather

    IDA EVA MORTON RUSSELL is your great grandmother
    Daughter of ROBERT J RUSSELL

    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother
    is your 2nd great grandmother

    EDWARD HANDY is your 2nd great grandfather
    Son of Charles handy and Mary Gibbons is your 3rd great grandfather & grandmother
    Son of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy is your 4th great grandfather
    - The Greatest Horseman in The World - Circus - Partner of Astley
    Son of Anthony Handy and Jane Unknown - Handy is your 5th great grandfather & grandmother

    Wife of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy is:
    Mary Huntley - Grant - Handy - Catawba Tribe is your 4th great grandmother
    Daughter of Chief Neil Huntley - Catawba Tribe is your 5th great grandfather

    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father
    is your 3rd great grandfather
    MARION RENNIE - RUTHVEN is your 3rd great grandmother

    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father
    is your 4th great grandfather
    MARGARET THOMPSON is your 4th great grandmother

    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father
    is your 5th great grandfather
    Margret Witherspoon
    Maragaret Wotherspoon - Weatherspoon - Ruthven is your 5th great grandmother

    ENDING HERE;
    I THINK i've submitted all the records that prove to this point
    properly


    THE FOLLOWING LIST is just an old reference
    in case i need to refer to what was there
    (it may OR may NOT be correct)

    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father
    is your 6th Great Grandfather
    Mary Henderson is your 6th Great Grandmother

    John Ruthven
    his father
    is your 7th Great Grandfather
    Marrion Margaret Peadie-Ruthven is your 7th Great Grandmother

    George Ruthven
    his father
    is your 8th Great Grandfather
    Elspeth Hutcheson - Ruthven is your 8th Great Grandmother

    Williame Ruthven
    his father
    is your 9th great grandfather
    Isobell Reid - Ruthven is your 9th great grandmother
    Daughter of James Reid is your 10th great grandfather

    Williame Ruthven
    his father
    is your 10th Great Grandfather
    Marion Clerk is your 10th Great Grandmother

    i think those lines are also correct
     

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