"The first lie is unconditional love" - Susan Lynne Schwenger (1974)

"The first lie is unconditional love
- absolutely everything in existence uses all the conditions that surround it
such as, the air aka wind, water, earth and fire for its existence
and, ether for its expansion,

Ether is male, female, male/female, female/male,
and, male/female + female/male & female/male + male/female
(which gives us 6 aspects)
into a unified and united form of all of the above 6 ethers,
creating a 7th level of ether

-- it is a new age lie, told to people
to suck out their energies
- and, deflate them
-- this thing called unconditional love
it is the first lie !!!

Love is the end result

Love is lived by being loving and loveable,
and, doing it by weaving the virtues of love"

~ susan lynne schwenger (1974)

1974 = (19/10/1)-(74/11) = 1 1 1
or 1974 = 21/3

"The first lie is unconditional love
~love is energy;
thus it is propelled by conditions"
- Susan Lynne Schwenger (1974)

 

Jenetta on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:55 pm
I totally agree with that definition!

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As below so above; As above so below

 

magamud on Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:56 am
Ya this place is rockin....

 

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS
wrote:
"The first lie is unconditional love
absolutely everything in existence uses all the conditions that surround it
such as, the air aka wind, water, earth and fire for its existence
and , aether aka ether for its expansion !!!

devakas on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:08 pm
this is ignorance produced statement.

What is everything in existence??
even material existance is not only wind and your list!!
you should explain your understanding of
ether expansion and how do you understand it.
what is ether?
what does it mean expansion, does it shrink too?
false ego is material too, does it expand and shrink too?

are you talking about properties of matter?
basicly you speak of matter.
Conditioned soul does not see unconditional love.
unfortunately. it is all material understanding and calculations
of materialistic people


Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS
wrote:


Ether is male, female, male/female, female/male,
and, male/female + female/male & female/male + male/female
(which gives us 6 aspects)
into a unified and united form of all of the above 6 ethers,
creating a 7th level of ether



devakas on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:08 pm
where this came from tuhbans? gnostics? akashic records, thubans data flow, calculations?? ayayay
this is mental inflated concoction with imperfect senses.
tubans doing a lot of damage to people to understand who they are...

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS
wrote:
-- it is a new age lie, told to people
to suck out their energies
- and, deflate them
-- this thing called unconditional love
it is the first lie !!!

devakas on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:08 pm
Love is not outer, but inner, transcendent. It is internal potency.
Dont take away love from people in such a crazy explanation.

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS
wrote:
Love is the end result

devakas on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:08 pm

End result is material death
and then consciousness become animal or stone or worm.

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger wrote:
Love is lived by being loving and loveable,
and, doing it by weaving the virtues of love"

Love is the end result

devakas on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:08 pm


End result is material death
and then consciousness become animal or stone or worm.

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS
wrote:
Love is lived by being loving and loveable,
and, doing it by weaving the virtues of love"
~ susan lynne schwenger (1974)

devakas on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:08 pm

what is love? unconditional love is lie by tubans and then you state about love? what kind of love? thubans love? should we understand your words:

Conditioned love is lived by being conditionally loving and conditionally loveable, and, doing it by weaving the virtues of conditional love????

unconditional love to you Susan!
devakas


Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS

 

please QUOTE MY WORDS
and, NOT retype over my words
so people can't see,
what i said
and, what you said
THANK YOU

and, unconditional - does NOT exist

everything is weaved by conditions - even love

love is the end result
- and, it is weaved through applied conditions called virtues

• Susan Lynne Schwenger (1974)

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS

 

These are the words of devakas

devakas wrote:

this is ignorance produced statement.

What is everything in existence?? even material existance is not only wind and your list!!
you should explain your understanding of
ether expansion and how do you understand it.
what is ether? what does it mean expansion, does it shrink too?
false ego is material too, does it expand and shrink too?

are you talking about properties of matter? basicly you speak of matter. Conditioned soul does not see unconditional love. unfortunately. it is all material understanding and calculations of materialistic people


where this came from tuhbans? gnostics? akashic records, thubans data flow, calculations?? ayayay
this is mental inflated concoction with imperfect senses.
tubans doing a lot of damage to people to understand who they are...



Love is not outer, but inner, transcendent. It is internal potency.
Dont take away love from people in such a crazy explanation.

End result is material death
and then consciousness become animal or stone or worm.[/COLOR]

what is love? unconditional love is lie by tubans and then you state about love?
what kind of love? thubans love? should we understand your words:

Conditioned love is lived by being conditionally loving and conditionally loveable, and, doing it by weaving the virtues of conditional love????

unconditional love to you Susan!
devakas

Susan Lynne Schwenger says:
amazing how your 'uncondional love'
does NOT feel like 'real' love at all

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS

 

i wrote that back in 1974
- when i didn't know anything about Thuban or Thubans
except i did know that Thuban was an important pole star
in ancient egypt
and, that the current pole star is polaris,
and, eventually the pole star will be Thuban again.

i have always written with my higher self,
my essence (or, my core) and, my monad
which is my past, present, future and NOW self
- through the pivot of the now these are terms i created and developed

• between 1975 - 1994 now, i am starting to assemble all 'my work'

• NOT the work of others

and, i am putting it into a book, which has a lot more detail

i am writing a book that many people might find interesting.

The truth is a hard swallow
- everything that occurs on earth
is a result of a choice to use, or to NOT use the conditions
or the elements that are available to you

therefore, there is NO such thing as unconditional anything
- everything is related and interconnected

The only ignorance i see,
in what has been written
on this thread, was NOT weaved NOR written by ME

i did explain ether, in fact, i explained it pretty well

personally, i think this is merely, a very 'bad' and,
a very 'poor' stab at Thubans
and, any ideas or philosophy that might flow out of it

nothing i wrote, was writen in anger, but was given in good will
and, with the condition of love applied

all i can do
is question, why you display so much anger towards Thuban & Thubans
- and, the only answer i can come up with is this:

whatever it is that you are angry about
isn't about me, but, is obviously about you

- remember
"We are all notes in the same song,
just different melodies"
- eventually
"we all might choose to sing together,
and, there might be 'sum' thing worthwhile to sing about

"be a piece of peace"
Susan Lynne Schwenger

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS

 

LOVE is the end result

- it is both inner and outer
(although some people might not have it in both places)
- it is both loveable and loving
(some people are loveable, but NOT loving, and, some people are loving, but, not loveable)
- in my opinion, it is good to be both

and, love transcends through all aspects & all levels that you are
all the way back to The Great Spirit aka The Source aka The Tao
(or, whatever name you want to attach, or give to the place,
you might believe you come from)

- material death is simply,
the death of one aspect of twelve aspects
your physical body
- everything else, continues to take a journey

- (i will give those in my book)

- saying, that Thubans do damage to people,
with NO 'real' proof of that
is an untrue statement that isn't based on fact nor is it factual

- Susan Lynne Schwenger

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS

 

devakas on Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:01 am

Susan, i do not have angryness.

Love it is not only adjective of being loving or loveble at the end as you say. It involves service.
Mother serves undonditionally to her child, Jesus unconditionally served God. Remember you wrote this.

See some visualize God as some kind of stone like round shape conscious cloud....

Megamud wished us happy christmas and talked about unconditional love.
Why do you think he changed his mind again? after reading your post???

We all should serve Krishna, all demigods do and if we have our own POViews, those could be very much accepted in hell.

smile Susan!

 

ahh, a good point
that is ONE of the virtues

-it is a truth that LOVE aka AGAPE is the end result aka the end goal

i revealed about 18 of them
back on my radio show on 10/10/2008

and, 'service' is NOT a virtue
but, also an end result of weaving 'all of the virtues' in their positive poles

• susan lynne schwenger

Susan Lynne Schwenger - THE eXchanger aka WHiTE LOTUS STAR aka 13
TALKS with THUNDER with THUNDERS