The 'real' Dragon Lineages of De Vere (under curator edit)

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  1. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    Unknown Father of Vere is your 38th great grandfather.
    You
    Susan Lynne Schwenger

    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother
    Murray Bruce aka Muff Schwenger
    your father

    James aka Jim Edward Handy JR.
    her father
    Viola Mae Drury - Handy
    her father, Daughter of Dr. George Walker Herbert Drury
    and Eva "Effie" Teresa Kopitoski - Drury,
    Daughter of Daughter of Michel aka Michael Kopitoski aka Kopitoskie aka Kopetoski aka Kopotoskie aka Kopitowsky - Born August 18, 1853, Died January 13, 1933 (79) Hastings County, Ontario, Canada
    & Amelia Annie Musclow - Kopitoski - Born March 4, 1855.
    Daughter of Johann Gottfried (John) Musclow and Emilie Caroline Friederike (Amelia) Schroeder
    (http://www.geni.com/people/Michel-aka-Michael-Kopitoski-aka-Kopitoskie-aka-Kopetoski-aka-Kopotoskie-aka-Kopitowsky/6000000019146766436?through=6000000019147120061)
    http://www.geni.com/people/James-aka-Jim-Edward-Handy-JR/6000000019146905159?through=6000000019146942179

    James aka Jim (Ruthven) Handy SR.
    his father
    Ida Eva Morton Russell - Handy
    his mother, Daughter of Robert James Russell and UNKNOWN Morton - Russell

    Marion (Rennie) Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
    his mother
    Edward Handy
    his father, Son of Charles W. Handy & Mary Gibbons-Handy,
    Son of Benjamin Thomas aka Ben Handy Esq. (The Handy Circus Troupe & Astley's Circus)
    and Mary Huntley - Grant - Handy - Catawba Tribe
    Daughter of Chief Neil Huntley - Catawba Tribe
    http://www.geni.com/people/Marion-Rennie-Ruthven-Handy-Satchell/6000000019148375081?through=6000000019148441265



    Alexander (Thompson) Ruthven
    her father
    Marion Rennie - Ruthven


    her mother
    http://www.geni.com/people/Alexander-Thompson-Ruthven/6000000019148441265?through=6000000019148470347

    Robert (Witherspoon) Ruthven, SR
    his father
    Margaret Thompson - Ruthven
    his mother
    http://www.geni.com/people/Robert-Witherspoon-Ruthven-SR/6000000019148470347?through=6000000019148326667

    John (Henderson) Ruthven
    his father
    Margaret Witherspoon - Ruthven (1754)
    his mother
    http://www.geni.com/people/John-Henderson-Ruthven/6000000019148326667?through=6000000019148508371

    John (Peadie) Ruthven
    his father
    MARY HENDERSON ( 1687 - 1747)
    his mother
    http://www.geni.com/people/John-Peadie-Ruthven/6000000019148508371?through=6000000008442250405

    John (Hutcheson) Ruthven
    his father
    Marrion aka Marion Margaret Peadie - Ruthven


    his mother
    http://www.geni.com/people/John-Hutcheson-Ruthven/6000000008442250405?through=6000000008442287746

    George (Reid) Ruthven
    his father
    Elspeth Hutcheson - Ruthven


    his mother
    http://www.geni.com/people/George-Reid-Ruthven/6000000008442287746?through=6000000019303156215

    William Alexander (Clerk) Ruthven
    his father
    Isobel Reid - Ruthven - Birth: November 16, 1626
    Daughter of James Reid
    http://www.geni.com/people/William-Alexander-Clerk-Ruthven/6000000019303156215?through=6000000019148823054

    William (Gray) Ruthven
    his father
    Marion Clerk
    his mother
    http://www.geni.com/people/William-Gray-Ruthven/6000000019148823054?through=5464384072600127910

    Sir William (Halyburton) Ruthven
    his father
    Mary Gray - Seaton - Ruthven
    his mother, Daughter of Sir Patrick Gray, 4th Lord Gray andMarion Gray
    http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-William-Halyburton-Ruthven/5464384072600127910?through=6000000000701212674

    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord Ruthven Castle
    his father
    Janet Halyburton, Lady Dirletoun Castle - Birth: circa April 19, 1503
    Daughter of Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun Castle
    and Margaret Douglas - Halyburton
    http://www.geni.com/people/William-Ruthven-2nd-Lord-Ruthven/6000000000701212674?through=6000000000701212701

    Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
    his mother
    William Ruthven, Lord & Master of Ruthven Castle- Birth: circa July 12, 1478
    -Ruthven Castle, Perthshire, Scotland
    Son of William Brentford Ruthven, 1st Lord & Master of Ruthven Castle
    and Lady Isabel Livingston - Lindsay - Ruthven, Countess of Brentford
    http://www.geni.com/people/Catherine-Gray-of-Buttergask-Stewart-Ruthven/6000000000701212701?through=6000000000405667308

    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother
    Andrew Gray, 2nd Lord Gray
    her father, Son of Patrick Gray, Master of Gray
    and Annabella Forbes - Gray
    http://www.geni.com/people/Elisabeth-Stewart-Countess-of-Argyll/6000000000405667308?through=6000000000548482169

    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father
    Margaret Douglas, Fair Maid of Galloway
    her mother, Daughter of Archibald Douglas, 5th Earl of Douglas
    and Eupheme Graham, Lady Hamilton, Daughter of Patrick Graham of Kincardine, Earl of Strathearn
    and Euphemia Stewart, Countess of Strathearn
    http://www.geni.com/people/John-Stewart-1st-Earl-of-Atholl/6000000005380754889?through=6000000003177635166

    James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn
    his father
    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    his mother, Daughter of John Earl of Somerset Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
    and Margaret Holland, Duchess of Clarence
    http://www.geni.com/people/James-Stewart-the-Black-Knight-of-Lorn/6000000003177635166?through=6000000008630858607

    Margaret Holland, Duchess of Clarence
    her mother
    John Earl of Somerset Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
    her father

    Alice FitzAlan, Countess of Kent
    her mother
    Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent
    her father

    Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel
    her father
    Eleanor of Lancaster, Countess of Arundel and Warenne


    her mother

    Alice de Warenne, Countess of Arundel
    his mother
    Edmund FitzAlan, 9th Earl of Arundel
    his father

    Joan de Vere
    her mother
    Sir William de Warenne


    her father

    Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford
    her father
    Alice de Sanford
    her mother

    Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford
    his father
    Hawise de Quincy


    his mother

    Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford
    his father
    Isabel de Bolbec


    his mother

    Alberic / Aubrey de Vere
    his father
    Agnes of Essex, Countess of Oxford


    his mother

    Alberic Aubrey II De Vere
    his father
    Adelize de Clare


    his mother

    Beatrice de Vere
    his mother
    Alberic / Aubrey "Sanglier" de Vere, Sheriff of Berkshire


    his father

    Sibilla Countess of Ghisnes (Gand)
    her mother
    Henry Castellan of Bourborgh


    her father

    Manassès of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    her father
    Emma d'Arques


    her mother

    Gallus of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father
    Gertrude de Clermont


    his mother

    Aurelius of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father
    Helène De Vere


    his mother

    Otho / Eudes of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father
    Constance Charters de Montlhéry


    his mother

    Nicasius I of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father
    Agatha de Champagne


    his mother

    Milòn II of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father
    Avelina de Nantes


    his mother

    Milòn I of Vere, duke of Angiers (Fictitious Person)
    his father
    Bertbelle (Fictitious Person)


    his mother

    Raymond of Vere, count of Anjou (Fictitious Person)
    his father
    Melusine (Fictitious Person)


    his mother

    Vere, King of Anjou (Fictitious Person)
    his father
    Dragon, Queen of Anjou (Fictitious Person)


    his mother

    Unknown Father of Vere
    his father
    Unknown Mother of Vere
    his mother


    http://www.geni.com/people/Unknown-Father-of-Vere/6000000022355343911?through=6000000002188619463
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2014
  2. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    another lineage of de vere

    Melusine (Fictitious Person) is your 36th great grandmother. icn_refresh-e336e534b1ce594869eacefd13815cba.
    You
    Susan Lynne Schwenger

    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother

    James aka Jim Edward Handy Jr.
    her father

    James aka Jim (Ruthven) Handy SR.
    his father

    Marion Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
    his mother

    Alexander (Thompson) Ruthven
    her father

    Robert (Wotherspoon) Ruthven, Sr.
    his father

    John (Henderson) Ruthven
    his father

    John (Peadie) Ruthven
    his father

    John (Hutcheson) Ruthven
    his father

    George (Reid) Ruthven
    his father

    William Alexander (Clerk) Ruthven
    his father

    William (Gray) Ruthven
    his father

    Sir William (Halyburton) Ruthven
    his father

    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord Ruthven
    his father

    Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
    his mother

    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother

    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father

    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    his mother

    Margaret Holland, Duchess of Clarence
    her mother

    Alice FitzAlan, Countess of Kent
    her mother

    Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel
    her father

    Alice de Warenne, Countess of Arundel
    his mother

    Joan de Vere
    her mother

    Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford
    her father

    Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford
    his father

    Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford
    his father

    Alberic / Aubrey de Vere
    his father

    Alberic / Aubrey de Vere, II
    his father

    Beatrice de Vere
    his mother

    Sibilla Countess of Ghisnes (Gand)
    her mother

    Manassès of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    her father

    Gallus of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father

    Aurelius of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father

    Otho / Eudes of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father

    Nicasius I of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father

    Milòn II of Vere, count of Guînes (Fictitious Person)
    his father

    Milòn I of Vere, duke of Angiers (Fictitious Person)
    his father

    Melusine (Fictitious Person)
    his mother
    transparent.
    qig63gux_medium.
    Melusine




    http://www.geni.com/people/Melusine-Fictitious-Person/6000000008079516779
     
  3. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    http://www.geni.com/people/HRH-Nicholas-de-Vere-von-Drakenberg/6000000020516215058

    HRH Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg is your 15th cousin twice removed. icn_refresh-e336e534b1ce594869eacefd13815cba.
    You


    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother

    James aka Jim Edward Handy Jr.
    her father

    James aka Jim (Ruthven) Handy SR.
    his father

    Marion Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
    his mother

    Alexander (Thompson) Ruthven
    her father

    Robert (Wotherspoon) Ruthven, Sr.
    his father

    John (Henderson) Ruthven
    his father

    John (Peadie) Ruthven
    his father

    John (Hutcheson) Ruthven
    his father

    George (Reid) Ruthven
    his father

    William Alexander (Clerk) Ruthven
    his father

    William (Gray) Ruthven
    his father

    Sir William (Halyburton) Ruthven
    his father

    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord Ruthven
    his father

    Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
    his mother

    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother

    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father

    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    his mother

    James II of Scotland
    her son

    Mary Stewart, Countess of Arran
    his daughter

    James Hamilton, 1st Earl of Arran
    her son

    Elizabeth Hamilton
    his daughter

    Thomas Weir of Kirkton
    her son

    Major Thomas Weir
    his son

    Thomas Weir
    his son

    John Weir
    his son

    Andrew Weir
    his son

    Margaret Weir
    his daughter

    Robert Weir
    her son

    Robert Weir
    his son

    John Weir
    his son

    Thomas Logan Weir
    his son

    James Weir
    his son

    HRH Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg
    his son

    transparent.
    rid79zuf_medium.
    Nicholas Thomas Logan Weir MP

    Birth:January 7, 1957
    Death:February 26, 2013 (56)
    rathdragun mor (heart attack)
    Immediate Family:
    Son of James Weir and Natalie Weir
    Husband of <private> Weir
    Father of <private> Weir and <private> Weir
    http://www.geni.com/discussions/131107

    common ancestors:
    Sir John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl citation_note-b0347a43ba6753929007deb6e52ad47c. MP

    Place of Burial:Dunkeld Cathedral Graveyard, Dunkeld, Perth and Kinross, Scotland citation_note-b0347a43ba6753929007deb6e52ad47c.
    Birth:1440
    Balveny, Fifeshire, Scotland citation_note-b0347a43ba6753929007deb6e52ad47c.
    Death:September 15, 1512 (72)
    Laighwood, Perthshire, Scotland citation_note-b0347a43ba6753929007deb6e52ad47c.
    Immediate Family:
    Son of James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn and Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
     

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