Lineages back to Roslin aka Rosslyn Chapel - Sinclair

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  1. CULCULCAN

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    these were the TRUMP ones

    Donald Trump

    - is Donald Trump,

    related back to the Sinclair of Roslin lineage ???



    Susan Lynne Schwenger PRO
    10/23/2016 at 6:27 PM
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    Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the USA
    Donald Trump is your 13th cousin once removed.
    You - susan lynne schwenger
    → Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother → James aka Jim Edward Handy Jr.
    her father → James aka Jim (Ruthven) Handy SR.
    his father → Marion aka Marrian Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
    his mother → Alexander (Thompson) Ruthven
    her father → Robert (Witherspoon) Ruthven, Sr.
    his father → John (Henderson) Ruthven
    his father → John (Peadie) Ruthven
    his father → John Ruthven
    his father → John Ruthven
    his father → William Alexander (Clerk) Ruthven
    his father → William (Gray) Ruthven
    his father → Mary Seton
    his mother → Marion Gray
    her mother → Helen Sinclair, Lady Ogilvy of Airlie *** GOES back to Sinclair of Roslin - orginal builder as a great grandson
    her mother → Iye Du MacKay, of Strathnaver,
    her son → Donald Mackay, 1st of Scourie
    his son → Christain Mackay
    his daughter → Robert Mackay of Achness
    her son → Alexander Mackay
    his son → Robert Mackay, tacksman of Halmdary
    his son → Ansus Mackay, tenant in Kinlochbea
    his son → Mary Mackay
    his daughter → Donald Macleod, of Whitefield, near Thurso
    her son → Catherine / Christian MacLeod
    his daughter → Alexander MacLeod
    her son → Malcolm (Calum) MacLeod
    his son → Mary Anne Trump (MacLeod)
    his daughter → Donald Trump
    her son

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    Ulf Martinsson
    10/23/2016 at 7:32 PM
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    Donald Trump is James IV of Scotland's 15th great grandson!
    https://www.geni.com/path/James-IV-of-Scotland+is+related+to+Donald...
    Ps, just noted that someone have added his name in Arabic: دونالد ترمب, Sr. ; )

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    Ulf Martinsson
    10/23/2016 at 7:34 PM
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    It says according to Goggle translate, Dunalid Taramub

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    Patrick McCormick
    10/23/2016 at 7:47 PM
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    You Patrick McCormick

    Mildred McCormick
    your mother

    Eugene Henrik Rehbinder
    her father

    Viktor Hugo Eugen Rehbinder
    his father

    Sten Otto Rehbinder
    his father

    Ulrika Jakobina af Forselles
    his mother

    Margareta Charlotta Carlsköld
    her mother

    Per Schyllberg Carlsköld
    her father

    Margareta Carlsdotter
    his mother

    Christina Spalding
    her mother

    Jacob Andersson Spalding
    her father

    Andreas Spalding
    his father

    Georg Spalding
    his father

    Isabell Spalding
    his mother

    Margaretta Ogilvy
    her mother

    Isobel Gray
    her mother

    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother

    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father

    Elizabeth Stewart
    his daughter

    Elizabeth Gordon, Countess of Sutherland
    her daughter

    Alexander Gordon, 12th Earl of Sutherland
    her son

    Jane Gordon, Lady
    his daughter

    Donald Mackay, 1st Lord Reay, fiar of Strathnaver
    her son

    Anna Munro
    his daughter

    Isabella MacKay
    her daughter

    Alexander Mackay
    her son

    Robert Mackay, tacksman of Halmdary
    his son

    Ansus Mackay, tenant in Kinlochbea
    his son

    Mary Mackay
    his daughter

    Donald Macleod, of Whitefield, near Thurso
    her son

    Catherine / Christian MacLeod
    his daughter

    Alexander MacLeod
    her son

    Malcolm (Calum) MacLeod
    his son

    Mary Anne Trump (MacLeod)
    his daughter

    Donald Trump
    her son

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    Sidney Freedman
    10/23/2016 at 9:01 PM
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    At a time when such upsetting news travels the airwaves, this latest is perhaps the most severe blow of all.
    I've known many a blowhard in my day but no creature in the style of trump has ever hit the public stage
    in the same way. Usually creeps hide under bushes and in swamps . this guy has emerged as the ghoul of the month.
    I personally renounce any connection to this creature other than to say that if you go back far enough everyone is related to everyone else.
    Sid Freedman

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    Gen X Hamilton
    10/23/2016 at 9:11 PM
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    Donald Trump is your 14th cousin
    You
    → Mike Hamilton
    your father → Audnie Preston Hamilton, Sr.
    his father → Ludie Carl Hamilton
    his father → Charles Horace Hamilton
    his father → Rufus Lafayette Hamilton
    his father → Reuben Shelby Hamilton, Jr.
    his father → Reuben Shelby Hamilton, Sr.
    his father → Audley Harrison Hamilton
    his father → Frances Hamilton
    his mother → Lady Judith Colhoun (Hamilton)
    her mother → Catherine Leslie
    her mother → Jean Gordon
    her mother → George Gordon 1st Marquess of Huntly
    her father → George Gordon, 5th Earl of Huntly
    his father → Jean Jane Gordon
    his sister → Jane Gordon, Lady
    her daughter → Donald Mackay, 1st Lord Reay, fiar of Strathnaver
    her son → Anna Munro
    his daughter → Isabella MacKay
    her daughter → Alexander Mackay
    her son → Robert Mackay, tacksman of Halmdary
    his son → Ansus Mackay, tenant in Kinlochbea
    his son → Mary Mackay
    his daughter → Donald Macleod, of Whitefield, near Thurso
    her son → Catherine / Christian MacLeod
    his daughter → Alexander MacLeod
    her son → Malcolm (Calum) MacLeod
    his son → Mary Anne Trump (MacLeod)
    his daughter → Donald Trump
    her son

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    John Patrick McCaffrey PRO
    10/23/2016 at 10:29 PM
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    I have Donald J. Trump as my 17th Cousin, twice removed.
    I have Hillary Rodham Clinton as my 15th cousin, once removed. See also below.
    p = parent, gp = grandparent, ggp = great grandparent.
    p: Horace McCaffrey, Jr. and other brothers and sister
    gp: Horace McCaffrey, Sr. and other brothers and sisters
    ggp: Jennie Minerva Brownell, his mother, m: Charles John McCaffrey
    2nd ggp: Eijah Hanchett Brownell, her father, m: Sarah Ann Warman
    3rd ggp: Frederick Brownell, his father, m: Ann Dawley
    4th ggp: Israel Brownell, his father, m: Rachel Simmons
    5th ggp: Giles Brownell, his father, m: Elizabeth Chase Shaw
    6th ggp: Lt. George Brownell, his father, m: Mary Thurston
    7th ggp: Mary Pearce, his mother, m: Thomas Brownell, II
    8th ggp: Richard Pearce, of Portsmouth, her father, m: Susannah Wright
    9th ggp: Richard Pearce, of Providence, his father, m: Martha Jacobs
    10th ggp: Richard Pearce, II, his father, m: Margaret Coney
    11th ggp: Richard Percy of Pearse Hall, his father, m: Annah Percy
    12th ggp: Peter Percy, his father, m: Catherine Anna James
    13th ggp: Sir Ralph Percy, Governor of Bamburch Castle, his father, m: Eleanor Acton
    14th ggp: Eleanor Percy, Countess of Northumberland, his mother, m: Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland
    15th ggp: Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland, her mother, m: Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmoreland
    16th ggp: SHARED ANCESTORS: John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, her father, m: Katherine de Roet, Duchess of Lancaster
    16th great uncle: John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset, his son, m: Catherine Holland, Duchess of Clarence
    1st cousin 16 times removed: Joan Beaufort, Queen Consort of Scots, his daughter, m: James “Black Knight" Stewart, of Lorn
    2nd cousin 15 times removed: John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl, her son, m: Eleanor Sinclair, Countess of Atholl
    3rd cousin 14 times removed: Elizabeth Stewart of Atholl, his daughter, m: John Stewart, 12th Earl of Lennox
    4th cousin 13 times removed: Elizabeth Stuart, Countess of Sutherland, his daughter, m: John Gordon, 11th Earl of
    Sutherland
    5th cousin 12 times removed: Alexander Gordon, 12th Earl of Sutherland, her son, m: Jean Jane Gordon
    6th cousin 11 times removed: Jane Gordon, Lady, his daughter, m: Hugh (Huistean Du) Mackay, of Far Tongue and
    Strathnaver
    7th cousin 10 times removed: Donald Mackay, 1st Lord Reay, Friar of Strathnaver, her son, m: Elizabeth Thomson
    8th cousin 9 times removed: Anna Mackay, his daughter, m: Rev. Hugh Munro, Minister of Durness
    9th cousin 8 times removed: Isabella Munro, her daughter, m: Robert Mackay of Achness
    10th cousin 7 times removed: Alexander Mackay, her son, m: Margaret Fearn
    11th cousin 6 times removed: Robert Mackay Tacksman of Halmdary, his son, m: Unknown
    12th cousin 5 times removed: Ansus Mackay, tenant in Kinlochbea, his son, m: Unknown
    13th cousin 4 times removed: Mary Mackay, his daughter, m: Angus Macleod Carnachy
    14th cousin 3 times removed: Donald Macleod, of Whitefield, Near Thurso, her son, m: Margaret Cameron
    15th cousin twice removed: Catherine/Christian MacLeod, his daughter, m: William MacLeod Skerry
    16th cousin once removed: Alexander MacLeod, her son, m: Ann Unknown
    17th cousin Malcolm (Calum) MacLeod, his son, m: Mary Smith
    17th cousin, once removed: Mary Ann MacLeod, his daughter, m: Frederick Christ Trump
    17th cousin, twice removed: Donald John Trump, Sr., his son, m: Melania Knavs
    Lineage of Hillary Rodham Clinton, former U.S. Secretary of State, 2016 Presidential Candidate
    p: Horace McCaffrey, Jr. and other brothers and sister
    gp: Horace McCaffrey, Sr. and other brothers and sisters
    ggp: Jennie Minerva Brownell, his mother m: Charles John McCaffrey
    2nd ggp: Sarah Ann Warman, her mother, m: Elijah Hanchett Brownell
    3rd ggp: Margaret Rush, her mother, m: Caleb B. Warman
    4th ggp: Peter Ruch, Sr., her father, m: Hester Voorhees
    5th ggp: Jacob Rush, Sr, his father, m: Margaret Singler
    6th ggp: Conrad Rush, his father, m: Johanna Susanna Adams
    7th ggp: Elizabeth Letitia Lewis, his mother, m: William Rush
    8th ggp: Elizabeth Isabella Warner, her mother, m: Col. John “Councillor” Lewis
    9th ggp: Mildred Reade, her mother, m: Col. Augustine Warner II
    10th ggp: Col. George Read, Acting Governor, her father m: Elizabeth Martiau
    11th ggp: Mildred Windeank, his mother, m: Robert Reade, Esq.
    12th ggp: Frances Dymoke, her mother, m: Sir Thomas Widebank of Hougham
    13th ggp: Anne Tailboys, her mother, m: Sir Edward Dymoke
    14th ggp: Lady Elizabeth Gascoigne, her mother, m: Sir George Tailboys, Knight
    15th ggp: SHARED ANCESTORS: William Gascoigne, Justice of the Peace, her father, m: Margaret de Percy
    15th great aunt: Margaret Gascoigne, his second daughter, m: William Scargill
    1st cousin, 13 times removed: Dorothy Ogle, Lady Grey, her daughter m: Sir Thomas Grey, MP
    2nd cousin, 14 times removed: Dame Isabel “of Ogle Castle” Grey, her daughter m: Sir Ralph Grey of Chillingham
    3rd cousin, 13 times removed: Margaret de Grey, her daughter, m: Edmund Roddam
    4th cousin, 12 times removed: John Roddam, his son, m: Margaret (unknown)
    5th cousin, 11 times removed: John Roddam, of Roddam, his son, m: Elizabeth Hall
    6th cousin, 10 times removed: John Rodham, his son, m: (unknown)
    7th cousin, 9 times removed: John Rodham, his son, m: (unknown)
    8th cousin, 8 times removed: Hugh Rodham, his son, m: (unknown)
    9th cousin, 7 times removed: Joseph Rodham, his son, m: Dorothy Bell
    10th cousin, 6 times removed: Jonathon Roddham, his son, m: Ann Parkinson
    11th cousin, 5 times removed: Joseph Roddam, his son, m: Elizabeth Scurfield
    12th cousin, 4 times removed: Jonathon Rodham, his son, m: Isabella Simpson Bell
    13th cousin, 3 times removed: Hugh Simpson Rodham, his son, m: Hannah Jones
    14th cousin, twice removed: Hugh Ellsworth Rodham, his son, m: Dorothy Emma Howell
    15th cousin, once removed: Hillary Rodham, his daughter, m: William J. Clinton, 42nd President of USA

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    Elizabeth Marie Mutchler
    10/23/2016 at 10:43 PM
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    I have Trump through my dad 19th cousin and Hillary through my mom 10th cousin once removed...lol

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    Ulf Martinsson
    10/24/2016 at 6:30 AM
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    Well, I think I would almost to certainty just choose the opposite to the big medias favorite,
    but it's fun to see that no matter where, people end up with the choice of cholera or pest.

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    Joseph Douglas Potter, Sr.
    10/24/2016 at 8:23 AM
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    Sorry, I have no idea.
     
  2. CULCULCAN

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    i'm surprised to find the 'trump' info here

    the ruthven line is being disputed in scotland - due to NOT being able to prove medieval lines ???

    funny thing 80% of the ruthven's at that time immigrated to canada - and; we know; where they go back to

    trying to find a family bible; and; a book that verifies lines back to peadie/ruthven
     
  3. CULCULCAN

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    i'm surprised to find the 'trump' info here

    the ruthven line is being disputed in scotland - due to NOT being able to prove medieval lines ???

    funny thing 80% of the ruthven's at that time immigrated to canada - and; we know; where they go back to

    trying to find a family bible; and; a book that verifies lines back to peadie/ruthven
     
  4. CULCULCAN

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    William "the Seemly" Sinclair of Roslin
    This is the Master Profile for William "the Seemly" Sinclair of Roslin.
    Curator Note from Justin Swanstrom (8/4/2013):
    His ancestry is unknown or uncertain.
    icn_arrow_expand.
    William "the Seemly" Sinclair of Roslin is your 26th great uncle.
    You
    susan lynne schwenger



    Lyn aka Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother



    James Edward Handy Jr.
    her father



    James Edward Handy Sr.
    his father



    Edward Handy
    his father



    Charles Wesley Handy
    his father



    Jane Orme - Handy of Brackagh (Bracca) Castle of Coolalough (Collolalough)
    his mother



    Anne Jackson - Orme
    her mother



    Jane Cuffe of Ballinrobe - Jackson
    her mother



    Right Hon. James Cuffe of Ballinrobe
    her father



    Alice Aungier - Cuffe
    his mother



    Ambrose Aungier
    her father



    Douglas Aungier
    his mother



    Edward Fitzgerald, MP
    her father



    Gerald Fitzgerald, 9th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    Gearoid Mór Fitzgerald, 8th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    Joan FitzGerald, Countess of Kildare
    his mother



    James Fitzmaurice FitzGerald, 6th Earl of Desmond
    her father



    Gerald fitzMaurice, 3rd Earl Desmond
    his father



    Maurice FitzThomas, 1st Earl of Desmond
    his father



    Margaret Russell
    his mother



    Joan (the Younger) de Ferrers, Baroness Berkeley
    her mother



    William de Ferrers, III, 5th Earl of Derby, Constable of Bolsover Castle
    her father



    Sir William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby
    his father



    Sybil de Braose
    his mother



    William de Braose II, 3rd Lord of Bramber
    her father



    Philip de Braose, 2nd Lord of Bramber
    his father



    Countess Agnes de Saint-Clair
    his mother



    William "the Seemly" Sinclair of Roslin
    her brother

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    William "the Seemly" Sinclair of Roslin, 1st Lord of Roslin

    Gender:Male
    Birth:circa 1028
    St. Clair-sur-Elle, Manche, Normandy, France
    Death:circa 1078 (41-58)
    Northumberlandshire, England (United Kingdom)
    Immediate Family:Son of Waldonius, count of Saint-Clair and Helena "le Bon"
    Husband of Dorothy, of Dunbar
    Father of Henry Sinclair of Roslin and Sir Valdonias de Sanct-Claro
    Brother of Richard de Saint-Clair; Mauger II de Saint-Clair; Countess Agnes de Saint-Clair and Henri de Saint-Clair
    Added by: 
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    Curated by:Anne Brannen
    Geni - William "the Seemly" Sinclair of Roslin, 1st Lord of Roslin (c.1028-c.1078)
     
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    GOES BACK TO:
    Geni - Waldron de Saint-Clair (c.1005-1057)- Barnstaple

    Waldonius, count of Saint-Clair is your 26th great grandfather.
    You
    SUSAN LYNNE SCHWENGER



    Lyn aka Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother



    James Edward Handy Jr.
    her father



    James Edward Handy Sr.
    his father



    Edward Handy
    his father



    Charles Wesley Handy
    his father



    Jane Orme - Handy of Brackagh (Bracca) Castle of Coolalough (Collolalough)
    his mother



    Anne Jackson - Orme
    her mother



    Jane Cuffe of Ballinrobe - Jackson
    her mother



    Right Hon. James Cuffe of Ballinrobe
    her father



    Alice Aungier - Cuffe
    his mother



    Ambrose Aungier
    her father



    Douglas Aungier
    his mother



    Edward Fitzgerald, MP
    her father



    Gerald Fitzgerald, 9th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    Gearoid Mór Fitzgerald, 8th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    Joan FitzGerald, Countess of Kildare
    his mother



    James Fitzmaurice FitzGerald, 6th Earl of Desmond
    her father



    Gerald fitzMaurice, 3rd Earl Desmond
    his father



    Maurice FitzThomas, 1st Earl of Desmond
    his father



    Margaret Russell
    his mother



    Joan (the Younger) de Ferrers, Baroness Berkeley
    her mother



    William de Ferrers, III, 5th Earl of Derby, Constable of Bolsover Castle
    her father



    Sir William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby
    his father



    Sybil de Braose
    his mother



    William de Braose II, 3rd Lord of Bramber
    her father



    Philip de Braose, 2nd Lord of Bramber
    his father



    Countess Agnes de Saint-Clair
    his mother



    Waldonius, count of Saint-Clair
    her father


    Shortest in-law relationship
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    Waldonius, count of Saint-Clair is your 26th great grandfather's wife's first cousin thrice removed.
    You
    SUSAN LYNNE SCHWENGER



    Lyn aka Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother



    Viola Mae Drury - Handy
    her mother



    Eva "Effie" Teresa Kopitoski - Drury
    her mother



    Amelia Annie Musclow - Kopitoski
    her mother



    Johann Gottfried (John) Musclow (Musculus)
    her father



    Catherina Dorthea Spiegel - Musclow (Musculus)
    his mother



    Johann Peter Spiegel
    her father



    Johan Michael Spiegel
    his father



    Maria Barbara Hirschmann - Spiegel
    his mother



    Johann Ludwig Hirschmann
    her father



    Agnes or Anna Catharina or Katherina Schlosser - Hirschmann
    his mother



    Agnes Engel - Schlosser
    her mother



    Barbara Sattler - Engel
    her mother



    Johann Michael Sattler
    her father



    Johannes Johann Sattler, 111.
    his father



    Barbara von Gaisberg - Sattler
    his mother



    Hans von Gaisberger of Gaisberg
    her father



    Heinrich von Gaisberger
    his father



    Guta Thumb von Neuburg
    his mother



    Gräfin Anna von Aichelberg
    her mother



    Graf Albrecht von Aichelberg
    her father



    Count Diepold of Aichelberg
    his father



    Anna von Teck
    his mother



    Margarete von Henneberg
    her mother



    Jutta of Thuringia
    her mother



    Hermann I von Sachsen und Thüringen
    her father



    Judith Bertha von Schwaben
    his mother



    Frederick II, Duke of Swabia
    her father



    Judith of Bavaria
    his wife



    Henry IX the black, duke of Bavaria
    her father



    Judith of Flanders
    his mother



    Eleanor of Normandy
    her mother



    Richard II "the Good", Duke of Normandy
    her father



    Mauger, Count of Corbeil
    his brother



    Waldonius, count of Saint-Clair
    his son
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    Waldron de Saint-Clair MP

    Gender:Male
    Birth:circa 1005
    Saint-Clair-sur-l'Elle, Manche, Normandy, France
    Death:1057 (47-56)
    Barnstable, Barnstaple, Devon, England
    Immediate Family:Son of Mauger, Count of Corbeil and Germaine Bassenville de Corbeil, Countess of Corbeil
    Husband of Helena "le Bon"
    Father of William "the Seemly" Sinclair of Roslin; Richard de Saint-Clair; Mauger II de Saint-Clair; Countess Agnes de Saint-Clair and Henri de Saint-Clair
    Brother of Guillaume Guerlenc de Corbeil, Count de Corbeil et d'Avranches and Hamo Dentatus
    Half brother of Renaud de Corbeil
    Added by:Patricia Ann Wells on July 28, 2007
    Managed by:Pablo Benítez Barreto and 94 others
    Curated by:Myrna Huthmacher (Leonard), PRO C
     
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    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    Donald Trump

    - is Donald Trump,

    related back to the Sinclair of Roslin lineage ?


    Donald Trump is your 13th cousin once removed

    You
    Susan Lynne Schwenger

    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother →
    Murray Bruce Schwenger
    your father →

    James aka Jim Edward Handy Jr.
    her father →
    Viola Mae Drury - Handy
    her mother →

    James aka Jim (Ruthven) Handy SR.
    his father →
    Ida Eva Morton Russell - Handy
    his mother →

    Handy
    his father →
    Marion aka Marrian Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
    his mother →

    Alexander Ruthven
    her father→
    Rennie ???
    her mother→

    Robert Ruthven, Sr.
    his father→
    Thompson
    here mother→

    John Ruthven
    his father→
    Witherspoon
    his mother →

    John Ruthven
    his father →
    Henderson
    his mother→

    John Ruthven
    his father →
    Peadie
    his mother→

    John Ruthven
    his father →
    insert
    his mother→

    William Alexander Ruthven
    his father →
    insert
    his mother→

    William Ruthven
    his father →
    Clerk or Clerkson or Clerksone
    his mother→

    Mary Seton
    his mother →
    Gray
    his father

    Marion Gray
    her mother→
    insert
    her father→

    Helen Sinclair, Lady Ogilvy of Airlie
    *** GOES back to Sinclair of Roslin - orginal builder as a great grandson
    her mother →
    insert
    her father→

    Iye Du MacKay, of Strathnaver,
    her son →
    Donald Mackay, 1st of Scourie
    his son→
    Christain Mackay
    his daughter →
    Robert Mackay of Achness
    her son →
    Alexander Mackay
    his son→
    Robert Mackay, tacksman of Halmdary
    his son →
    Ansus Mackay, tenant in Kinlochbea
    his son →
    Mary Mackay
    his daughter →
    Donald Macleod, of Whitefield, near Thurso
    her son→
    Catherine / Christian MacLeod
    his daughter→
    Alexander MacLeod
    her son→
    Malcolm (Calum) MacLeod
    his son→
    Mary Anne Trump (MacLeod)
    his daughter →
    President Donald J. Trump, 45, Potus ~ USA
    her son

    NEEDS TO BE CHECKED
    (2 LINES below)
    Arabic: دونالد ترمب, Sr. ; )
    Dunalid Taramub
     
  7. CULCULCAN

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    another sinclair line
    sinclairring.
     
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    Helen Sinclair, Baroness Ogilvy of Airlie
    This is the Master Profile for Helen Sinclair, Baroness Ogilvy of Airlie.
    Curator Note from Erica Howton (1/26/2022):
    Careful: different Helen Sinclair’s. This Helen Sinclair, (daughter of Henry Sinclair, 3rd Lord Sinclair),
    married only to Lord James Ogilvy of Airlie. 4 sons and 4 daughters.
    icn_refresh.


    Helen Sinclair, Baroness Ogilvy of Airlie is your fourth great uncle's fifth great uncle's wife's grandmother.
    You - susan lynne schwenger




    Lyn aka Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother



    James Edward Handy Jr.
    her father



    James Edward Handy Sr.
    his father



    Edward Handy
    his father



    Charles Wesley Handy
    his father



    Jane Adelaide Handy - Knox
    his sister



    John Knox (of Greenwood Park)
    her husband



    Francis Knox
    his father



    Francis Knox of Moyne Abbey
    his father



    William Knox, Jr.
    his father



    Fingwel Florence Knox
    his mother



    Mary Erskine
    her mother



    Margaret Home
    her mother



    Alexander Home, 5th Lord of Home
    her brother



    Agnes Gray
    his wife



    Marion Ogilvy
    her mother



    Helen Sinclair, Baroness Ogilvy of Airlie
    her mother

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    Helen Sinclair, Baroness Ogilvy of Airlie is your 8th cousin 13 times removed.
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    Lyn aka Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother



    James Edward Handy Jr.
    her father



    James Edward Handy Sr.
    his father



    Edward Handy
    his father



    Charles Wesley Handy
    his father



    Jane Orme - Handy of Brackagh (Bracca) Castle of Coolalough (Collolalough)
    his mother



    Anne Jackson - Orme
    her mother



    Jane Cuffe of Ballinrobe - Jackson
    her mother



    Right Hon. James Cuffe of Ballinrobe
    her father



    Alice Aungier - Cuffe
    his mother



    Ambrose Aungier
    her father



    Douglas Aungier
    his mother



    Edward Fitzgerald, MP
    her father



    Gerald Fitzgerald, 9th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    Gearoid Mór Fitzgerald, 8th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    Thomas FitzMaurice FitzGerald, 7th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    John Fitzgerald, 6th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    Gerald Fitzgerald, 5th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    Maurice FitzThomas FitzGerald, 4th Earl of Kildare
    his father



    Joan de Burgh, Countess of Kildare
    his mother



    Richard Óg de Burgh, 2nd Earl of Ulster
    her father



    Gille (Giles) de Burgh, of Ulster
    his sister



    Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland
    her son



    Robert II, King of Scots
    his son



    Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany
    his son



    Lady Isobel Stewart
    his daughter



    Christina Halyburton
    her daughter



    Christian Leslie Sinclair
    her daughter



    Henry Sinclair, 3rd Lord Sinclair
    her son



    Helen Sinclair, Baroness Ogilvy of Airlie
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    Helen Sinclair citation_note. MP

    Gender:Female citation_note.
    Birth:circa 1490
    Scotland (United Kingdom)
    Death:1558 (63-73)
    Airlie, Angus, Scotland citation_note.
    Immediate Family:Daughter of Henry Sinclair, 3rd Lord Sinclair
    and Margaret Hepburn

    Wife of James Ogilvy, 4th Lord Ogilvy of Airlie
    Mother of Marion Ogilvy;
    James Ogilvy, Master Ogilvy of Arlie;
    Margaret Ogilvy;
    Lady Helen Ogilvy
    and Agnes Ogilvy

    Sister of Elene Sinclair;
    Henry Sinclair;
    William Sinclair, 4th Lord of Sinclair;
    Catherine Sinclair;
    Elizabeth Sinclair;
    Agnes Sinclair, Countess of Bothwell
    and Janet Sinclair citation_note.
      
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    William Sinclair, 1st Earl of Caithness,
    3rd Earl of Orkney is your fifth cousin 16 times removed.
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    Lyn aka Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger

    your mother



    James Edward Handy Jr.

    her father



    James Edward Handy Sr.

    his father



    Edward Handy

    his father



    Charles Wesley Handy

    his father



    Jane Orme - Handy of Brackagh (Bracca) Castle of Coolalough (Collolalough)

    his mother



    Anne Jackson - Orme

    her mother



    Jane Cuffe of Ballinrobe - Jackson

    her mother



    Right Hon. James Cuffe of Ballinrobe

    her father



    Alice Aungier - Cuffe

    his mother



    Ambrose Aungier

    her father



    Douglas Aungier

    his mother



    Edward Fitzgerald, MP

    her father



    Gerald Fitzgerald, 9th Earl of Kildare

    his father



    Gearoid Mór Fitzgerald, 8th Earl of Kildare

    his father



    Thomas FitzMaurice FitzGerald, 7th Earl of Kildare

    his father



    John Fitzgerald, 6th Earl of Kildare

    his father



    Gerald Fitzgerald, 5th Earl of Kildare

    his father



    Maurice FitzThomas FitzGerald, 4th Earl of Kildare

    his father



    Joan de Burgh, Countess of Kildare

    his mother



    Richard Óg de Burgh, 2nd Earl of Ulster

    her father



    Gille (Giles) de Burgh, of Ulster

    his sister



    Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland

    her son



    Robert II, King of Scots

    his son



    Egidia Stewart, of Lounane, Princess of Scotland

    his daughter



    Egidia Douglas, Countess of Orkney

    her daughter



    William Sinclair, 1st Earl of Caithness, 3rd Earl of Orkney

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    William Sinclair, 1st Earl of Caithness, 3rd Earl of Orkney citation_note. MP

    Gender:Male citation_note.
    Birth:circa 1410
    Rosslyn Castle, Roslin, Midlothian, Scotland (United Kingdom) citation_note.
    Death:March 1484 (69-78)
    Ravenscraig Castle, Kirkcaldy, Fifeshire, Scotland (United Kingdom) citation_note.
    Immediate Family:Son of Henry Sinclair, 2nd Earl of Orkney
    and Egidia Douglas, Countess of Orkney

    Husband of Elizabeth Douglas,
    Dowager Countess of Buchan;
    Marjory Sutherland of Dunbeath
    and Janet Yeman

    Father of Margaret Mariota Sinclair;
    William "the Waster" Sinclair, 2nd Lord Sinclair;
    Elizabeth Sinclair;
    Robert Sinclair;
    Arthur Sinclair;
    Marjory Sinclair;
    George Sinclair;
    Sir William Sinclair, 2nd Earl of Caithness;
    Eleanor Sinclair , Countess of Atholl;
    Katherine Sinclair
    and Sir Oliver Sinclair of Rosslyn

    Brother of Beatrix (Bethoc) Sinclair, Countess of Douglas citation_note.
    Added by:Dana Marie Wheatley on October 25, 2007
    Managed by:Margaret (C) and 111 others
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    Gàidhlig4Sasannachs
    March 30 at 11:00 PM ·
    Sinclair
    The name Sinclair is derived from 'Saint-Clair', a place name in Normandy.The family came to England as part of William the Conqueror's army in the invasion of 1066 and by 1086 two 'Saint-Clairs', Richard of Saint-Clair and Brittel of Saint-Clair, are mentioned in the Domesday Book. A William of Saint-Clair accompanied Saint Margaret of Scotland, daughter of Edward the Exile to Scotland in 1068, where she eventually married Malcolm III of Scotland. In return for his loyalty, King Malcom is said to have granted him Roslin, Scotland 'in free heritage'.

    One of the earliest recorded Sinclairs in Scotland was Henry of Saint-Clair/Sinclair, who obtained a charter for the lands of Herdmanston in Haddingtonshire in 1160. The chiefs of Clan Sinclair, the Earls of Caithness, descend from William St. Clair who was sheriff of Edinburgh and who was granted the barony of Roslin (Rosslyn) in 1280.

    During the Scottish–Norwegian War, Haakon IV of Norway invaded Scotland. William St. Clair commanded a wing of King Alexander III's army at the Battle of Largs in 1263, in which the Scottish forces defeated those of Harken IV. The following year, 1264, King Alexander ordered William to support the forces of the King of England at the Battle of Lewes.
    During the Wars of Scottish Independence, Sir William Sinclair of Rosslyn was captured at the Battle of Dunbar (1296) and died later, probably in the Tower of London. His son, Henry, was also captured and later sent to St Briavels Castle, and in 1296 he swore fealty to Edward I of England on the Ragman Rolls.
    In 1303 the Battle of Roslin took place where the Scots under Henry Sinclair of Rosslyn and Clan Comyn defeated an English force. At the Battle of Loudoun Hill in 1307, Henry supported Robert the Bruce in defeating the English.
    The Sinclairs had initially favoured John Balliol's claim to the throne but later gave their loyalty to Robert the Bruce. The Sinclairs were present at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314, fighting with The Bruce - after the victory, Robert the Bruce gave William Sinclair his sword. William Sinclair, Bishop of Dunkeld, rallied the Scots army to defeat an English invading force in Fife in 1317 at the Battle of Donibristle.
    Sir William Sinclair, and his brother John, accompanied Sir James Douglas in his quest to take Robert the Bruce's heart on crusade, and were among the Scots killed with Sir James Douglas at the Battle of Teba in 1330. Their bones, are said to be buried in Rosslyn Chapel.
    In 1379, Sir Henry Sinclair, son and heir of William Sinclair, Lord of Roslin, and his wife Isabella (Isobel) of Strathearn and daughter of Maol Ísa, Jarl of Orkney, who was also Admiral of Scotland, claimed the Earldom of Orkney through his mother and received it from Haakon VI of Norway. In 1391, Henry conquered the Faroe Islands, and is also alleged to have voyaged as far as the Americas in 1398. The voyage to America is largely disputed. He apparently died in battle against the English around 1400.
    Henry II Sinclair, Earl of Orkney was taken prisoner by the English at Battle of Homildon Hill in 1402 but was soon released. In 1406 he escorted Prince James to France but the ship was captured by the English and both were imprisoned in the Tower of London. In 1407 he escaped or was released on payment of a ransom.
    William Sinclair, 1st Earl of Caithness (3rd Earl of Orkney and Baron of Roslin) was High Chancellor of Scotland between 1454 and 1458. He was granted the Earldom of Caithness in 1455, and split the family lands, disinheriting his eldest son from his first marriage, William ("the Waster"), who later became the Lord Sinclair, giving the lands of Caithness to his second son from his second marriage, William Sinclair, 2nd Earl of Caithness, in 1476, and the lands at Roslin to his eldest son from his second marriage, Sir Oliver Sinclair.
    William Sinclair, 2nd Earl of Caithness, was killed fighting for James IV of Scotland at the Battle of Flodden in 1513. The Battle of Flodden caused huge losses for Clan Sinclair with 300 Sinclairs being killed, including George Sinclair of Keiss, Henry Sinclair, 4th Lord Sinclair, Sir John Sinclair of Herdmanston, the Bishop of Caithness as well as their King, James IV of Scotland.
    John Sinclair, 3rd Earl of Caithness (1490–1529), was killed in an expedition to Orkney in 1529. In 1528-29 there had been insurrection led by the brothers James Sinclair and Edward Sinclair who were from the Orkney Isles against John's son, William, Lord Sinclair, who had wasted Orkney and Shetland the previous year. The Earl of Caithness was killed with 500 of his men at the Battle of Summerdale on 18 May 1529. He was succeeded by his son George Sinclair, 4th Earl of Caithness, and George's son, William Sinclair, later 5th Lord Sinclair, was taken prisoner.
    In 1568, Henry Sinclair, 6th Lord Sinclair assisted Mary, Queen of Scots, to escape from Loch Leven Castle. In 1570, John Sinclair, Master of Caithness, son of George Sinclair, 4th Earl of Caithness burned the local Cathedral in pursuit of the Morays who had taken refuge in the steeple. George Sinclair, 4th Earl of Caithness later imprisoned his son, the Master of Caithness, for making peace with the Morays.
    In 1588 Castle Sinclair Girnigoe withstood a siege by the Earl of Sutherland and in 1590 George Sinclair, 5th Earl of Caithness invaded Sutherland which resulted in the Battle of Clynetradwell. On 3 April 1593, George, 5th Earl of Caithness, resigned his earldom in return for novodamus (in Scottish feudal land law, a regranting of land to resolve disputes or reaffirm tenure) and remainder to his son William Sinclair. On 11 December William Sinclair of Mey was knighted by King James VI of Scotland.
    On 21 October 1601, Henry Sinclair, 6th Lord Sinclair died and was succeeded by grandson Henry. In 1606, George, 5th Earl of Caithness, was by an Act of Parliament allowed to change the name of Girnigoe Castle to Sinclair Castle.
    In 1650 Major Sinclair assisted James Graham, 1st Marquess of Montrose at the Battle of Carbisdale where they were defeated. They escaped to Ardvreck Castle, but were betrayed by MacLeod of Assynt, captured and executed. Sir William Sinclair of Rosslyn was killed at the Battle of Dunbar (1650) and was the last knight to be buried in full armour below Rosslyn Chapel. General Monck sacked Rosslyn Castle during the Wars of the Three Kingdoms, but the Chapel was spared. In 1651, at the Battle of Worcester, John Sinclair, 10th Lord Sinclair, was captured by Cromwell's forces and imprisoned in the Tower of London and then at Windsor Castle until 1660 when he was liberated by General Monck. In 1657, George Sinclair 6th Earl of Caithness was present when Oliver Cromwell was proclaimed Chief Magistrate of the three nations in Edinburgh.
    In 1680 a feud took place between George Sinclair of Keiss and Sir John Campbell of Glenorchy over the right to the lands and title of the earldom of Caithness. This resulted in the Battle of Altimarlach, where, legend has it that so many Sinclairs were killed that the Campbells were able to cross the river without getting their feet wet.Clearly, however, the Sinclairs had influence in high places as only a few years later, in 1681, they regained the Earldom by an order of Parliament. In 1698, George Sinclair 7th Earl of Caithness died. He was succeeded by John Sinclair of Murchill (Murkle) 8th Earl, his cousin.
    In 1708, Chief John, Master of Sinclair (Son of Henry Lord Sinclair) was exiled to Prussia after killing two men in duels, but was later pardoned by Anne, Queen of Great Britain. In 1715, John Master of Sinclair captured a vessel with 420 stand of arms bound for the Earl of Sutherland. In 1715, at the Battle of Sheriffmuir, David Sinclair of Brabsterdorran fought for Jacobite cause, as did John, Master of Sinclair who fled to Orkney and then to Europe after the defeat of the Jacobites.
    In 1736, Sir James Sinclair of Rosslyn resigned his office as hereditary Grand Master Mason of Scotland to the Scottish Lodges on their foundation. He was later reappointed for his life. In 1739 forty-four Scottish Freemasons' Lodges met in Edinburgh to found the Grand Lodge of Scotland. William St Clair was a candidate for Grand Master and promptly became the first elected Grand Master after offering to surrender his hereditary rights.
    On 4 June 1745, Sir James Sinclair of Rosslyn, a lieutenant general with the Royal Scots regiment, was appointed the commander of the British Forces in Flanders. On 16 April 1746, at the Battle of Culloden, he commanded the Royal Scots regiment on the British-Hanoverian Government side. The Jacobite rebel, John MacKenzie, Lord MacLeod, tried raising the Sinclairs in arms but had little success: only about 30 men under Sinclair of Scotscalder arrived at the place of muster, and Sinclair of Scotscalder's estates were later forfeited. However, Clan Sinclair was strongly Jacobite, but after hearing the news of the Jacobite failure at the Battle of Culloden, they allegedly decided to "sneak home again".
    It was also reported that had Lord Sutherland and Lord Reay not been in their way then the Sinclairs would have been among the first of the rebels, with about 500 Caithness Sinclairs ready to join the Jacobites, despite the Earl of Caithness, their Chief, supporting the British Government. Perhaps tellingly, when Duncan Forbes, Lord Culloden, was forming the 18 Independent Highland Companies to oppose the Jacobite rising of 1745 the Sinclairs were not offered a company.
    Malcolm Sinclair, 20th Earl of Caithness, 20th Lord Berriedale, 15th Baronet of Canisbay, Co. Caithness, is the current Chief of Clan Sinclair. The image shows the ruins of Castle Sinclair Girnigoe near Wick.
     

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