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US V. GHISLAINE MAXWELL - DAY 1

Posted by [US] on 11/30/2021 to Maxwell & Epstein
U.S. v. Ghislaine Maxwell Transcripts

Day 1 [11.29.21]

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Ghislaine Maxwell has been taking notes at far side of the defense table, next to the marble wall. Now Assistant US Attorney Lara Pomerantz is getting set in the glassed-in COVID podium, as the jurors come in. It's on.
Judge Nathan signs the praises of the overflow courtrooms; no mention of the denial of public call-in line such as exists, right this moment, in DDC, and these days by other SDNY judges.

Opening Statement by AUSA Pomerantz:
I want to tell you about Jane. She turned 14 years old that summer when a man and a woman walked by. The man said he was a donor who gave scholarships to students at this camp. The woman asked for her phone number. It began a nightmare.
The man and woman were predators. Jane was not their only victim. There were other young girls. Who was that woman? It was the defendant, Ghislaine Maxwell. The defendant took these girls on shopping trips and won their trust. She talked sex
There were times she was in the room when it happened. That is why we are here today. Between 1994 and 2004 the defendant sexually exploited young girls. She preyed on them and served them up to be sexually abused. She was trafficking kids for sex
He owned a ranch in New Mexico, an apartment in Paris, a mansion in Manhattan, Palm Beach, a private island. Epstein has private planes and pilots. The defendant got to enjoy that luxury right along with Epstein.
The defendant was the lady of the house. She imposed rules. Employees were to hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing. There was a culture of silence. That was by design. The defendant's design.
They had a play book: get access, gain trust. They often targeted the daughters of single mothers, struggling to make ends meet. They made these girls feel seen. But that was a cover.
To get the girls to touch Epstein, they used the cover of massage. The defendant massaged Epstein then told the girls to do it. Epstein brought girls into his massage room every single day. It was sexual abuse.
Before I describe those so-called massages, let me say: these are the facts. Epstein touched the teenage girls with equipment... He sometimes penetrated... The defendant helped Epstein find those girls, for so-called massages.
They lured their victims with a promise of a brighter future then destroyed their lives. The defendant was jet-setting in private planes.
[Note: And holding press conferences at the UN, getting Antonio Guterres' official Amir Dossal on her board]
So what happened to Jane? You will hear from her. Someone from Epstein's office invited her to Epstein's house. He told her mother he was offering a scholarship. Jane was 14 - a kid. Epstein was in his early 40s, the defendant in her early 30s
Jane traveled to New York to Epstein's mansion, where he abused her. She was not the only one. You will learn about multiple girls during the course of this trial. You will learn about a 16 year old girl who traveled to the ranch in New Mexico
The defendant told the girl she was going to give her a massage. But she touched her elsewhere. The girl was 16 years old. There's a 17 year old, spotted in a parking lot. The driver pulled over.
[Note: Maxwell puts on her glasses and jots down notes]
They moved beyond scholarships and moved on to a pyramid scheme of abuse. They encouraged girls to bring other girls, for extra cash. The defendant knew exactly what she was doing. That's what we expect the evidence will show.
You'll hear about a fund that paid millions to the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. But you will learn that these victims would have paid anything to have this not have happened to them. You will hear from relatives. You will hear from staff members.
You'll see massage tables. A school girl's outfit. You'll see other records - flight logs showing the names of some of Epstein's victims
[Note: What about UNindicted co-conspirators?]
At the end we will speak again. Until then, pay attention, follow Judge Nathan's instructions, & use your common sense. You will reach the only verdict possible: that Ghislaine Maxwell is guilty.
Judge Nathan: Thank you Ms. Pomerantz. Ms. Sternheim?

Opening Statement by Maxwell’s Lawyer, Bobbi Sternheim:
Ever since Eve, women have been blamed for the evil deeds of men. Ghislaine Maxwell is not Jeffrey Epstein or any of the other men, moguls and media giants who abuse women.
Epstein will be mentioned throughout the trial. He is the elephant in the room. He is consuming this entire courtroom and the overflow courtrooms. You are not here to judge Epstein. You are here to determine if Ghislaine Maxwell committed these crimes
We are proud to represent Ghislaine Maxwell, me and Christian Everdell, Laura Minninger & Jeffrey Pagliuca [pronounced like "Lasagna," G silent]
These witnesses want a jackpot of money. There are 4 accusers. They'll say Ghislaine groomed them
Memories fade and become contaminated.
[Note: Get ready for expert Elizabeth Loftus, who also testified for Harvey Weinstein and others]
Jeffrey showed only what he wanted to show.
[Note: Get ready for Maxwell's "halo effect" expert(s)]
The Epstein Victims Fund did not test the claimants' stories. They got millions of dollars. Ghislaine Maxwell is on trial because of her association with Epstein. She is a scapegoat -- AUSA: Objection! Judge Nathan: As stated, overruled.
Ghislaine is a stand-in for a man who behaved badly--
AUSA: Objection!
Judge Nathan: Let me hear from counsel at the sidebar.
[Note: Non-public whispering]
[Sternheim returns from the sidebar]
"Ghislaine Maxwell can pilot a helicopter. Her life of luxury is not a crime. You all said you would not be biased by affluence or opulence and your word is your bond.
In the 1990s Ghislaine met Jeff Epstein
Epstein had made positive traits. Attractiveness. He radiated what's called a halo effect. Ghislaine became his employee, to administer his real estate like small boutique hotels. Like many New Yorkers, he wintered in Palm Beach.
Houses require upkeep. Epstein spent time with other women and traveled with them without Ghislaine. The jets were like a Hamptons Jitney in the air. Very interesting people on them: politicians, celebrities, even a former astronaut who became a Senator
There will be Jane, Annie, Kate and Carol. They will tell their stories only from memory. But memory, as you will here, changes.
Consider the incentive of personal monetary gain. These women were not initial interviewed by investigators with experience –
AUSA: Objection!
Judge Nathan: Sustained. Jury will disregard.
Sternheim: You decide if they are credible.
Epstein was a manipulator. He had no children. He had no boss. But he attracted these rich and famous people. Before his fall from grace. He was a 21st Century James Bond. His mystery has stirred interest and his accusers have shaken the money tree
Epstein traveled with an entourage but kept parts of his life locked up. Other manipulators? Lawyers, media & money have impacted the memories you'll hear. Civil lawyers targeted clients and primed them.
[objection]
Judge Nathan: Just a moment. Grounds?
[Another whispered sidebar. Maxwell drinks from a water bottle, straighten her glasses: she does not go up to the bench with Sternheim]
[In the 2d row: new US Attorney Damian Williams, being whispered to by senior AUSA Tom McKay]
Sternheim is back:
For people to receive money from the Epstein Fund, they receive more if they cooperate with the government. These witnesses have gotten money, lots of money.
The Epstein Fund has many of the same administrators as the 9/11 fund. But for 9/11, there was hard proof. Let's talk about Jane. Yes, she was and is a talented singer and Epstein, a patron of the arts and a supporter of young talent, sponsored her
After Epstein died, when money was on the line, Jane hired a lawyer and became a client, they got in touch with the government because it would help with her monetary claim,
Jane is now on a soap opera. She got $5 million from the Epstein fund. Consider that. And this, about Annie - her sister is an artist. She came to NY when she was 16 and met Epstein. Ghislaine was not in the country.
[Long sidebar. US Attorney Damian Williams has left the courtroom.]
Annie will tell you she stopped writing in her diary before the events in NM. Annie is a 41 year old psycho-therapist who only met Ghislaine once, in NM. She promotes herself as a victim
She will say she's scarred. But why did she keep the boots Epstein gave her? They are well worn. She was awarded $1.5 million. Let's talk about Kate. She has admitted she is ambitious. She was involved with an older British gentleman.
She eagerly spent time with Epstein. Her emails to Epstein continued a relationship with him for over a decade. When he was in jail she sent him pictures of herself. Kate is a 44 year old former actress and socialite from the UK.
She came on an entertainment visa but she is no longer in the entertainment field. She got $3.25 million. She is also seeking assistance from the government to help her get a visa, a special visa for US witnesses.
The last accuser -- she had a dangerous lifestyle, using drugs. This is 2002. Carolyn was introduced to Epstein by Virginia Roberts, who was paid to recruit for massages. This is for the trafficking charges 5 and 6. This had nothing to do with Ghislaine
She sued Epstein and his assistant, but not Ghislaine. Ghislaine had not come up in the interview in 2007. It was Carolyn who groomed and trafficked for Epstein. But when he died, her story changed to include Ghislaine. She got $3.5 million minus $40k
We are not here to smear anyone, just to test the government's proof. In NY the age of consent is 17. For trafficking, the age of consent is 18. But for Carolyn, the charges will not be proven.
The government is trying to stitch together four different story. But the only common denominator is they got big payouts. These are paper cut-outs. The charges are not supported.
Jeffrey Epstein is not here. Ghislaine is here. You have the power - find Ghislaine not guilty

Judge Nathan: Thanks. 10 minute break then 1st US witness.

1st US Witness, Epstein Pilot Larry Visoski, called by AUSA Maurene Comey:

Witness is Lawrence Paul Visoski.
Nickname: Larry. "I am an airplane pilot."
AUSA Comey: Who did you work for?
Visoski: Mister Jeffrey Epstein.
AUSA Comey: Where did Epstein hire you?
Visoski: Columbus, Ohio. David Rogers was hired too.
AUSA Comey: How long did Mister Rogers work for Mister Epstein?
Visoski: Same duration as myself.
AUSA Comey: What was Ms Maxwell's hairstyle in those days?
Visoski: She changed it a lot, "like most women." [Some groans]
AUSA Comey: Can you identify Ms. Maxwell, if you see her in the courtroom, by a piece of clothing?
Visoski: She's in the corner, in the white sweater and the dark hair.
AUSA Comey: Let the record reflect, the witness has identified the defendant.
Visoski: The only time Epstein didn't take a private jet was when the Concorde was flying. Ms. Maxwell used airlines sometimes. In the late 1990s she had an option on a quarter share of a private jet. For a domestic flight, I didn't need to know who was flying in my plane.
AUSA Comey: So you didn't get all the names?
Visoski: I did not. There was NYC, Palm Beach, Santa Fe- actually Stanley NM - an apartment in Paris & an island in St. Thomas
AUSA Comey: Can you describe the interior of Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach residence?
Visoski: A master bedroom, three guest bedrooms. There's a Florida room, which I guess in New York you'd call a family room... a butler's pantry, a 3 car garage
AUSA Comey: Who drove Mr. Epstein up to this plane?
Visoski: Juan comes to mind. But others too.
AUSA Comey: And in NY?
Visoski: Manhattan. 9 East 71st Street.
AUSA Comey: And what did you do at 9 East 71st Street?
Visoski: Pick up luggage - and install video equipment.
AUSA Comey: Which airport did you use?
Visoski: Teterboro. Then Newark or JFK with the larger plane.

Judge Nathan: It's 4:58, we're going to break for the day.
Clerk Ms. Williams: All rise!
Adjourned.

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jill whitman

Date 12/3/2021

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It seems as if the government is doing everything to protect itself because the government is guilty of interacting with the young girls (now women). I truly feel having Commy involved is a huge shot in the arm of the American people. We are not blind to what is happening. A huge cover-up by the Democrats.


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US V. GHISLAINE MAXWELL - DAY 2

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U.S. v. Ghislaine Maxwell

Day 2 [11.30.21]
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Before Visoski re-takes the stand, Judge Nathan brings up again the unidentified juror who'd have to travel between Christmas and New Years.
Maxwell's lawyer Pagliuca: We'd like to know which juror it is, or at least if they are an alternate.
Judge Nathan: I think I have to excuse the juror, if they can't cancel or move the trip. I'll step down.
Clerk Ms. Williams: All rise!
Judge Nathan: I asked but it seems there is no way to change or move the trip. So I have excused Juror Number 58. The other jurors are ready. Please bring the witness into the box.
Larry Visoski, in the plexiglass witness box, says, "I'm OK."
Assistant US Attorney Comey: May the witness remove his mask?
Judge Nathan: Yes.
AUSA Comey: Good more, Mr. Visoski. What assistants did Mr. Epstein have other than Ms. Maxwell?
Visoski: There were many.
AUSA Comey: Did Ms. Maxwell have assistants?
Visoski: She did.
AUSA Comey: Can you name some assistants?
Visoski: There was a Kimberly and, of course, Sarah Kellen.
AUSA Comey: Is that Ms. Kellen?

[Exhibit is a woman in a bright green dress]

Visoski: Yes
AUSA Comey: That's this?
Visoski: The entrance to Mr. Epstein's Zorro Ranch... There is a triple-wide trailer with a faux Western facade. We had a runway and a hangar for our aircraft.
AUSA Comey: How many acres was Mr Epstein's ranch?
Visoski: Ten thousand acres.
AUSA Comey: Did you ever go into the main residence.
Visoski: Yes. To pick up luggage, and install electronics. Mr. Epstein was a real audiophile. He also had a home theater with a drop-down screen. He had a little family room off to the side.
AUSA Comey: Turning now to Mr. Epstein's island, what was it called?
Visoski: Little St. James. It was a regular destination. I also flew the helicopter, from St. Thomas to Little St. James. Also, more electronics installation.
AUSA Comey: How else could you get there?
Visoski: Boat.
AUSA Comey: OK, where did you meet Ms. Maxwell?
Visoski: She had a three bedroom apartment, I installed electronics there too. Then she bought her own townhouse.
AUSA: Why did you go there?
Visoski: Luggage.
AUSA Comey: Did Ms. Maxwell ever fly the helicopter?
Visoski: Many times.
AUSA Comey: And what are these photos?
Visoski: That's Mr. Epstein in front of his plane.

[The plane is black and Epstein is standing in front of it in a yellow windbreaker, with a smile.]

AUSA Comey: For Mr. Epstein, did you ever fly to Traverse City, Michigan?
Visoski: Yes. Must have been summer or fall, cherry season.
AUSA Comey: Where did you pick up his luggage?
Visoski: The Interlochen School of Music [Center for the Arts]
AUSA Comey: I offer into evidence this stipulation, that the dates of birth of these individuals are correct. We are submitting these under seal. Let the jurors pick up the binders under their chairs, to see the sealed exhibits. But don't open it.
Judge Nathan: And don't put them on the screen. Paper only. [Pause] I need glasses.
AUSA Comey: Government Exhibit 12... Mr. Visoski, is this the name of the female singer you remember being a passenger on Mr. Epstein's plane?
Visoski: Yes
AUSA Comey: We'll call her Jane. How did you meet her?
Visoski: Mr. Epstein brought her to the cockpit. She had piercing powder blue eyes.
AUSA Comey: Do you remember Virginia Roberts?
Visoski: Yes. A shorter woman with dirty blonde hair.
AUSA Comey: Nothing further.

Judge Nathan: You may cross examine.

Maxwell's lawyer Christian R. Everdell: You started working for Mr. Epstein with Dave Rogers, correct?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And he let you use the restroom?
Visoski: Yes. Like I need to now.

Judge Nathan: OK, looks like it's time for our mid-morning break.

Everdell: One last question before we break - did you walk through the cabin?
Visoski: Yes, in the Gulf Stream.
Everdell: Take a break.

Clerk: All rise! Thread will continue.
Judge Nathan: Mr. Everdell, how much longer? 20 minutes?

Everdell: An hour.
Judge Nathan: I hope you had a pleasant and TIMELY break, jurors. You may proceed.

Everdell: I trust you're feeling better.
Visoski: Much better.
Everdell: So you walked through the Gulf Stream to use the restroom, correct?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: If Mr. Epstein were engaging in sex acts with underage girls he probably would have told you not to leave the cockpit, correct?

Objection!
Judge Nathan: Overruled.

Visoski: Correct.
Everdell: So this was before cell phones, and you were using beepers, correct?
Visoski: Yes. I'd recognize Mr. Epstein's number.
Everdell: And you'd mostly hear about flights from Ghislaine if she was going to be on them, right?
Visoski: Mostly.
Everdell: So former President Bill Clinton flew on the plane, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And you were told to clean up.
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: But some passengers, you were never told the names, right?
Visoski: Correct.
Everdell: I want to ask you about a few specific flights. You mentioned Interlochen, the arts center. Did you know that Epstein himself attended the summer camp, when he was a child?
Visoski: I was not.
Everdell: On your flights to Interlochen, wasn't Itzhak Perlman on one?
Visoski: Yes he was.
Everdell: And Epstein had a cabin there, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And you flew Mr. Epstein to Columbus, Ohio to see Les Wexner, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And the women we're calling Jane, you knew her real name, right?
Visoski: I do.
Everdell: And beyond the striking blue eyes, you have said she had large breasts, right?
Visoski: She was a mature woman.
Everdell: I'm sorry, we're having a choreography issue.

Judge Nathan: Can we move past it without sending the jurors back into the jury room?
Everdell: Yes, as long as I can return to it.

Judge Nathan: We'll just take a five minute break now.
Clerk: All rise!
Jury returns late.
Judge Nathan: Well at least you're getting your steps in. Please proceed.

Everdell: So there were others in Epstein's world who had the same name as the person we are calling Jane?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: Like sealed exhibit LV3a and LV3b
Everdell: Are you familiar with Prince Andrew?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And he flew on Mr. Epstein's plane, right?
Visoski: He did.
Everdell: Are you familiar with Annie Farmer?
Visoski: I've heard the name. But I don't know of any record.
Everdell: Put up LV4 and LV5. Mr.
Visoski, do you see the documents, with names?
Visoski: Yes.

Judge Nathan: Admitted under seal.

Everdell: The person we're calling Kate, her real name is on LV4, right?
Visoski: I don't remember that name at all.
Everdell: You've mentioned Bill Clinton, Itzhak Perlman, Prince Andrew... Did Donald Trump fly on Epstein's plane?
Visoski. Yes, he did.
Everdell: And John Glenn and George Mitchell flew on Epstein's plane, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And Kevin Spacey?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: After first staying in a hotel, did Mr. Epstein put you up in an apartment?
Visoski: Yes. At 301 East 66 Street. Sarah Kellen stayed there too. And the person who's name we can't say, LV3a.
Everdell: But not Jane, right?
Visoski: I did not see Jane.
Everdell: The green sports car, who gave it to Mr. Epstein?
Visoski: Les Wexner.
Everdell: And Mr. Epstein gave you 40 acres of land in New Mexico, on which to build you home
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And he paid your two children's college tuition?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: He cared about your daughters when they were in college, right?
Visoski: And even when they were younger.
Everdell: And Mr. Epstein had back problems and needed massages, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: He used 10,000 Waves Studio in Santa Fe, yes?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And when he met him, Epstein's girlfriend was Eva Andersson-Dubin, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And Ms. Maxwell just worked for him?
Visoski: It seemed that way.
Everdell: Later, whatever personal relationship existed between Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell fizzled out, right?
Visoski: Yes, in the 2000s.
Everdell: And Epstein brought in others, like personal assistant Sarah Kellen, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And later Ghislaine was in a relationship with Ted Waitt, CEO of Gateway Computers, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: She introduced you to Mr. Waitt's pilot, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: Good time for a break.

Judge Nathan: Done.

Judge Nathan: Mr. Everdell, you may continue with your cross examination of Mr Visoski. And Mr. Visoski, I remind you that you are under oath.

Everdell: People liked to go hiking on the Zorro Ranch, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: But since there were snakes, one needed boots, right?
Visoski: Yes, that would be preferred.
Everdell: And you never saw Ghislaine looking pregnant, did you?
Visoski: I never did.
Everdell: And Ghislaine seemed like a nice person to you, did she not?
Visoski: She did.
Everdell: And you have two daughters - and you let them ride horses with Ghislaine, right?
Visoski: I did.
Everdell: You saw nothing in 30 years that made you think Mr. Epstein was an abuser, right?
Visoski: I did not.
Everdell: Nothing further.

Judge Nathan: Re-direct.

AUSA Maurene Comey: Did you let your 14 year old daughter massage Mr. Epstein?
Visoski: I did not.

Second Witness, "Jane"

AUSA Comey: Nothing further. And we call our next witness, "Jane."

Judge Nathan:: I order the sketch artist not to accurately depict the witness.

AUSA Comey: What is Government Exhibit 12, under seal?
"Jane" - It is my birth certificate.
AUSA Comey: How old were you when you first had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein?
Jane: 14.
AUSA: Who was in the room?
Jane: Ghislaine Maxwell.
AUSA: Do you see her here?
Jane: Yes. There. In sort of a beige turtleneck.
AUSA: She has identified the defendant.
AUSA Comey: What type of work did your father do?
Jane: He was a musical composer. Then he died of leukemia. His employer had canceled his health insurance without him knowing. We essentially went bankrupt and had to move out.
AUSA Comey: When you were at Interlochen, did you meet a couple?
Jane: Yes. The woman had a dog and the man said they were big benefactors. They asked for my mother's phone number. A landline.
AUSA Comey: When you visited, what do you remember about spending time at the pool?
Jane: There were four woman and Ghislaine, all topless and some of them were naked. I was shocked. I hadn't seen that before. Maxwell would ask me if I had boyfriends.
AUSA Comey: Did Epstein begin to pay for things for you?
Jane: Voice lessons. Clothes. Things for school.
AUSA: Did Ms Maxwell give you some advice?
Jane: That if you f*ck them you can always f*ck them, they're sort of grandfathered in. I didn't know what it meant
AUSA: What did they tell you about their social circle?
Jane: Donald Trump. Bill Clinton. Mike Wallace.
AUSA: How was the house decorated?
Jane: Art, sculptures. Pictures of famous people, presidents. I thought some of the art was odd - naked women, creepy animals
Jane: Epstein took me into the pool house. He proceeded to masturbate on me. Then he went into the bathroom & cleaned himself & acted like nothing happened. I'd never seen that before.
AUSA: Did you keep spending time with them?
Jane: Yes. Jeffrey [Epstein] proceeded to masturbate again. Ghislaine was rubbing on him, kissing on him.
AUSA: How old were you?
Jane: Fourteen.
AUSA: What was Ms. Maxwell's demeanor like?
Jane: She was very casual, like this was entirely normal. I was confused. When you are 14 you have no idea what is going on.
AUSA: Did Jeffrey Epstein touch you?
Jane: Yes. Everywhere.
AUSA: Did you touch Mr. Epstein?
Jane: [pause] Everywhere.
AUSA: I'm sorry to ask you this, but did he use sex toys?
Jane: Yes. Like those back massagers. They were painful. He did it anyway.
AUSA: Did Maxwell touch your body?
Jane: Yes.
AUSA: How often did these things happen?
Jane: Every time I visited his house.
AUSA: Did you travel to his other homes?
Jane: Yes.
AUSA: We'll back back to that. When other people were present, how did incidents start?
Jane: Jeffrey would say, follow him.
AUSA: Follow him where?
Jane: To his bedroom. Or to the massage room. He would get on the massage table and it would sort of turn into this orgy.
AUSA: How often was Maxwell present?
Jane: I can't give a precise number.
AUSA: During the incident when you were 14, was Maxwell in the room?
Jane: Yes.
AUSA: When you were 14, 15 and 16 how many times did you travel with them?
Jane: About ten times. To NYC, and New Mexico. On Jeffrey's plane.
AUSA: What kind of artwork did they have?
Jane: Yes, it was weird. Animal heads. Naked women. Orgies. It didn't seem very unusual at this point.
AUSA: How did you feel, in the New York house?
Jane: Like someone was always watching you.
AUSA: What would Epstein asked you to do?
Jane: To straddle his face. To pinch his nipples.
AUSA: Were there times that Maxwell was present?
Jane: Yes.
AUSA: In the NY house, where did this happen?
Jane: In the massage room.
AUSA: On the trip to New Mexico, where did you spend most of your time?
Jane: On the ranch. It was in the middle of nowhere.
AUSA: Did anyone come into your room?
Jane: Yes. Someone came in and said, Jeffrey wants to see you and escorted me to see him.
Jane (sobbing) I did not want to go see him.
AUSA: Who told you Epstein wanted to see you?
Jane: Don't know. I had to fly back to Florida to go to school. I took a commercial flight. But I was only 15 and didn't even have a [drivers] learner's permit.
Jane: So I couldn't get on the flight back to Florida, having no ID. I freaked out. But Maxwell helped solve it. She talked to someone & I got on the plane.
AUSA: What was your home life like at the time?
Jane: We were losing our home. We moved into a pool house.
Jane: My mom was enamored by the idea that these affluent people were taking an interest in me –

Objection! Hearsay!

AUSA: It's for the effect on the listener.
Judge Nathan: You may ask that question. But not what the mother said.
AUSA: Could we approach?
Judge Nathan: The jurors' snacks are hear. Let's take a 10 minute break.
Judge Nathan: Jurors, you will hear what the witness' mother said. That is not offered for the truth of the matter asserted, but for the impact on the witness. You may proceed.

AUSA: What did your mother say?
Jane: That I should be grateful for their attention.
AUSA: Did you tell your siblings about the abuse?
Jane: No. I was ashamed. And I had a manic-depressed mother who didn't know how to cope. [sobs] It seemed hopeless.
Jane: I spoke to my school guidance counselor, who then called my mother. My mother told me, You don't talk about what happens at home and embarrass us.
AUSA: Jane, what kind of work do you do now?
Jane: I am still an actor. I got work in LA. But I didn't know how to trust, how to reciprocate.
AUSA: When did you stop being in touch with Jeffrey Epstein?
Jane: In 2002. I fell in love with someone.
Jane: Epstein kept calling me and saying he wanted to see me, that I needed to be grateful to him, that my mother was living in one of his apartments. Do you want me to continue?
AUSA: Was that the last time?
Jane: Yes.
AUSA: Later did you tell the man I'll call Matt about Epstein?
Jane: Yes. Not in detail. But I did. By then you saw Epstein on the TV all the time. He had been arrested.
AUSA: Did the FBI interview you in September 2019?
Jane: Yes.
Jane: May 2019.
AUSA: Did you sue Ghislaine Maxwell?
Jane: Yes. In 2020.
AUSA: And the Epstein Victims' Fund?
Jane: Yes. They awarded me $5 million. Of that, I got approximately $2.9 million.
AUSA: Would the verdict in this case impact that?

Objection! Sidebar.

AUSA: Would a verdict here impact that?
Jane: No.

Judge Nathan: This is not a legal opinion.
AUSA: Why do you want to be anonymous?
Jane: Because I work in Hollywood and victim shaming is still the norm.
AUSA: No further questions.

Judge Nathan: Ms. Menninger you may cross examine.

Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: You waited 20 years to complain, correct?
Jane: Correct.
Menninger: Two full decades before your first report to the police. By then Mr. Epstein was dead, correct?
Jane: Correct.
Menninger: And you had two personal injury attorneys with you. Mr. Glaxman and Mr. Workman. And AUSA Moe.
Jane: Yes.
Menniger: In the 20 years, you spoke to several people close to you. To the person we're referring to as Matt. Your sister Camilla-

Objection!
[There is a sidebar. Now they return.]
Menninger: You told one of your older sisters, right?
Jane: Right.
Menninger: But you didn't mention Ghislaine Maxwell, correct?
Jane: I don't know.
Menninger: You have four older siblings?
Jane: One older sibling, three older half siblings.
Menninger: Show the witness 3509-008.
Objection! She's just reading document not in evidence. She can refresh
Menninger: I'm not refreshing, I'm impeaching.
Judge Nathan: Well, you're not impeaching yet, Ms. Menninger. The objection is sustained. I'm going to reach the document to myself.
Menninger: You told Ms. Moe you lived in the same house –
US: Objection! No foundation.
Menninger: I wasn't going to ask for the street address, I was going to ask if she knows it, where the country club is.
Jane: I don't know. I've never been to a country club.
Menninger: I'd like to show the witness another sealed document.
Jane: I recognize my mother's signature and mine. But I don't recognize the document.
Menninger: What do you believe this document to be?

AUSA: Objection!
Judge Nathan: Sustained

Menninger: How about this page?
Judge Nathan: You should do this on paper, I always thought that was a better idea, not the screen. So this is J-5? And the question is, do you recognize the document?

Jane: I do. It's the application for Interlochen camp.
Menninger: And is your signature on the 2d page?
Jane: Yes. It's dated 5/7/94.
Menninger: Before you met Jeffrey Epstein, right? Did you apply for financial aid or scholarship?

AUSA: Let them offer it into evidence. Under seal.
Judge Nathan: So ordered.

Menninger: You did not apply for aid.
Jane: I guess not. I was a child.
Judge Nathan: It's 5 o'clock and we're going to break.
Clerk: All rise!
Jury leaves.

Judge Nathan: No communication on substance between US and witness, since she's under cross. Be seated.

Judge Nathan: We have some matters to take up.
AUSA: The defense never showed up these documents. It violated Rule 16.
Maxwell's lawyer: The rule does not apply.
AUSA: Then it's not admissible.
Judge Nathan: It's one page of J-36? How does it impeach?
Defense: It shows the street she lives on.
Judge Nathan: It's a current photo. It is not impeaching.
AUSA: It's in violation of Rule 16. We would ask that the Court direct them to produce it forthwith.

Defense: But today's we've seen, and you've admitted, a photo of the Epstein home today.
Judge Nathan: But they had a witness saying it's fair and accurate representation.
AUSA: We'll brief it. [and we'll report on it]

Judge Nathan: Both sides should put in letters by 9 pm tonight. Now we have to deal with the identifying information.
AUSA: We will speak with the defense about it, this evening.
Judge Nathan: The witness is on cross, do you agree they can talk to her? Then raise it to me in a letter tonight.
AUSA: We'll confer right after the court day today and submit letters by 10 pm.
Judge Nathan: Fine.
AUSA: "Matt" will be the next witness.

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US v. Ghislaine Maxwell - DAY 3 (uncensoredstorm.com)
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US V. GHISLAINE MAXWELL - DAY 3

Posted by [US] on 12/1/2021 to Maxwell & Epstein
U.S. v. Ghislaine Maxwell
Day 3 [12.1.21]
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Judge Nathan: If what the defense bring in is impeachment [of the Witness] material, it's not a Rule 16 issue.
AUSA Rohrbach: It should have been disclosed; it is about a collateral matter.
[Note: these are the lawyers' arguments before the jury comes in at 9:30]
AUSA: The witness couldn't even recognize the photo, & it wasn't impeachment of what she said on the stand.
Judge Nathan: What is the US' understanding of when the witness lived in the address in the [FBI] 302?
AUSA Alison Moe: At 14 she was living in a pool house
Maxwell's lawyer: In her application to Interlochen [music school] she listed the address that he showed her yesterday.
Maxwell's lawyer Laura Menninger: She already said on the record that she lived in the same place after she met Epstein until she moved to NY
Judge Nathan: Is there anything we can discuss at [non public] sidebar, before the jury comes in?
AUSA: Some issues we can only do when they come up.
Judge Nathan: OK, then I'm going to step down for a few minutes.
Clerk: All rise!
Witness-1 "Jane" still under cross examination.

Assistant US Attorney: We have an objection to tabloid articles from the Internet being introduced as evidence.
Judge Nathan: You have a general Internet objection?

AUSA: No, we'll raise them one by one.

Judge Nathan: Let's bring out the jury.

Clerk: All rise!

Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: Did you turn 17 in your final year at Interlochen [art/music school]?
"Jane" - No, I was 16.

Menninger: Jurors, pick up the smaller binder under your chairs and turn to J-3.
Menninger: And your application said you came from a "long and loving family," right?
Jane: That's what it says.
Menninger: Do you recognize the document?
Jane: I do not recognize it per se. But I see my signature.
Menninger: It's your application to Interlochen
Menninger: When you spoke to your younger brother, you didn't mention there was a woman, correct?
Jane: I don't think so.
Menninger: And you told a news source that you were approached by Ghislaine, no mention of Ghislaine, correct?
Jane: I don't remember that.
Menninger: When you got to Epstein's house with your mother - your house was in West Palm Beach, right?
Jane: No, it was in Palm Beach –
Menninger: You didn't cross any state lines, did you?
Jane: No I didn't. There were only the 3 of us having tea.

Menninger: Have you ever spoken with your sisters about your boyfriends?
Jane: I didn't have any boyfriends...
Assistant US Attorney: Can we have a brief sidebar about this?
[Whispered sidebar]
[Sidebar finally over.]
Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: Look at the last line in the top paragraph. You told the agents that Epstein would decide where everyone sat –
AUSA: Objection! She should only ask, Does it refresh your recollection.
Judge Nathan: Go ahead and ask.
Menninger: Does it refresh your recollection?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: And there was nothing sexual in the theater.
Jane: Right [Note: Jury may hear about New Mexico movie theater acts later in trial]
Menninger: Yesterday, it said it was shortly after the pool house that you had this incident with Epstein and Ghislaine, right?
AUSA: Objection as to form.
Judge Nathan: Specify what you're talking about.
AUSA: Objection.
Menninger: This is foundational.
Menninger: You told the government you do not have a specific memory of your first time with Ghislaine –
AUSA: Objection!
Menninger: You have come up with the memory in the last two years?
Jane: I don't believe I have come up with memory, no.

Jane: It is not typed up right on this form.
Menninger: Another typo by the government.
AUSA: Objection!
Menninger: You told the government Ghislaine never used sex toys or a vibrator on you, correct?
Jane: Correct. [Note: that's what was asked]
Menninger went on to ask Jane if Ghislaine ever saw her perform oral sex on Epstein (no), hand job (no), intercourse (no). Note: We're not going blow-by-blow for this portion.
Menninger: Look at 39-008 at Page 5, does this refresh your recollection?
Jane: No.
Menninger: You said Ghislaine never saw you perform oral sex on Epstein.
Jane: I don't recall.
Menninger: Look at the document.
Judge Nathan: Let's take a break.
Now after 11 am break cross-examination of Victim 1 "Jane" is continuing, with Maxwell's lawyer claiming Jane has mis-remembered.
Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: You testified yesterday your first has sex with Epstein in his pool house in Florida. But you told the government it was in New York.
Jane: Those are not my notes. I did not write that down and it was not recorded.
Menninger: You told them you only remembered one incident in NY when Ghislaine was present.
Jane: I don't recall.
Menninger: Look at 3509-003. Hasn't your story changed?
Jane: I didn't understand the question
Menninger: You told the government you flew to NY with Epstein & Ghislaine to see The Lion King.
Jane: I said that but I was incorrect in my timeline. I was 14.
Menninger: You were a student of theater and the arts at the time, correct?
AUSA: Objection as to form.
Judge Nathan called another break, saying that Jane needed a drink of water. Now she's back on the stand.
Menninger: Let's go to your conversation in Feb 2020, about the Lion King.
AUSA: No objection Menninger: I know Ms. Moe would like to come and do this for me
AUSA Moe: I object to that.
Menninger: But the Lion King on Broadway didn't start until you were 17 years old. Did the government or Mr. Glassman suggest to you that you might have meant the Lion King movie?
AUSA: Objection!
Menninger: So you recall going to the New Mexico range, a giant huge home, correct?
Jane: Like all the homes.
Menninger: And that Jeffrey Epstein's brother went with you, correct?
Jane: I don't recall.
Menninger: You weren't asked to have sex with any of Epstein's friends, were you?
Jane: No.
Menninger: Did Epstein introduce you to people in the arts?
Jane: Not really.
Menninger: To the dean of Interlochen at a cocktail party?
Jane: I don't recall.
Menninger: In 3509-001, you said you met Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago, before the pool house incident.
Jane: I don't recall.
Menninger: You said Epstein took you in a dark green car to Mar-A-Lago to meeting Donald Trump?
AUSA: Asked and answered and also misleading.
Menninger: You also had some recollections about flying on the private plane with Epstein, right?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: You said you were asked your weight when you got on the plane, correct?
Jane: Yes
Menninger: In 2019 before Epstein was arrested you were contacted by the government, right?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: But you said you were not interested in getting involved.
Jane: Right.
Menninger: Then you hired Mr Glassman, a personal injury lawyer with ads-
AUSA: Objection.
Menninger: Did you see his ads, touting his big verdicts?
Jane: He's a friend of a friend.
Menninger: Is this your contingent fee agreement?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: You've talked to your ex-boyfriend Matt, right?
Jane: Right.
[Programming note: It seems "Matt" will be the next witness. Judge Nathan has said there is some issue with the jurors' delivered lunches. So this may go a while.]
Menninger: When you were 15 did you take a trip to Italy for a singing competition?
Jane: I may have. I don't remember. I was 15.
Menninger: And at 16, you traveled for a sibling?
Jane: Maybe.
Menninger: And you were in a beauty pageant sponsored by Donald Trump?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: Do you recall crying that Jeffrey Epstein only gave you $2000 for a dress?
Jane: No.
Menninger: You were on a reality TV show with Matt, right?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: And there was tension and you cried?
Jane: Reality shows are not really reality.
Menninger: You claimed you were putting a roof over your family's head?
Jane: I don't know if I used those words.
Q: You told that to Matt.
A: They were living in my house.
Menninger: And you demanded money from Ghislaine Maxwell?
Jane: I have a lawyer.
Menninger: And you sought money from the Epstein Compensation Fund - look at Exhibit J-18, at 6. You were offered how much?
Jane: $5 million.

Judge Nathan: We'll break for lunch, jurors. I hope all of your lunches are back there now.
Now after lunch break, more cross-examination of Victim 1 "Jane," with Maxwell's lawyer insisting Jane has mis-remembered
Menninger: So you went to a specialized entertainment school, right?
Menninger: And since then you've played roles like cancer patient?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: Prostitute?
Jane: No.
Menninger: You can cry on command?
Menninger: You're accusations in this case include that you were 14 went you were abused, right?
Jane: Yes.
Menninger: But you first told the government you were 13, right?
Jane: I might have said 13 going on 14. It's a small technicality.
[Note: on "prostitute," Jane said "Not my favorite role."]
Menninger: You talk about the Lion King and say you were 14 - but it only came out when you were 17, right? And you said you were 15 when you met Mike Wallace, at his 80th birthday party, right?
Jane: I don't know how old I was.
Menninger: You don't know when his birthday is? Look at J-33, does it refresh your recollection?
AUSA: Objection.
Judge Nathan: Sustained. No basis for refreshing.
Menninger: In your civil case you got interrogatories, do you know what those are?
Jane: No.
Menninger: So your lawyer answered for you under your oath and you didn't know?
Jane: I don't know.
Cross examination of Jane peters out, with a final exhibit admitted. Unclear how press and public will get it.
Now re-direct.
AUSA: Did any of us prosecutors ever tell you what to say at this trial?
Jane: No.
AUSA: You were asked about notes of meetings with the US. Did you speak about everything all at once?
Jane: No. It was too difficult, emotionally, on every level.
AUSA: Then there were fewer of us in the room. Do you know why?
Jane: To make me more comfortable.
AUSA: Why did you speak to the tabloid reporter?
Jane: He basically blackmailed me. He said he would publish unredacted documents.
Judge Nathan: This is not for the truth of the matter asserted, but impact on the listener.
AUSA: Did you make an agreement with the reporter?
Jane: Yes. I'd talk about meeting Jeffrey Epstein, the reporter would keep my name out of it. I was working on a TV show.
AUSA: Do you know the difference between acting on television and testifying in court?
Jane: Yes. This is real. I am seeking closure. I have been running from this my entire life. I want to help in whatever way I can. And maybe find some healing.
[By the end, Jane is sobbing.]
AUSA: Do you have any financial interest in this trial?
Jane: No.
AUSA: Nothing further.
Judge Nathan: Jane, you may step down. And we'll take a break. Jurors, your snacks are here.
Clerk: All rise!
Final segment before end of Day 3, it's Victim Jane's ex-boyfriend "Matt," uses pseudonym.
AUSA Moe: How do you know Jane?
Matt: She's my ex-girlfriend. From 2006 to 2014.
AUSA: Did you live together?
Matt: Yes. From 2007 to 2014.
AUSA: Are you still friends?
Matt: Yes. And we work on the same TV show.
AUSA: What did Jane tell you about her home life?
Maxwell's lawyer: Objection.
Judge Nathan: Any foundation?
Maxwell's lawyer: It's hearsay.
[Another non-public sidebar]
They return.
Judge Nathan: Ms. Moe, I'll ask you to narrow the question.
AUSA Moe: Did Jane speak about her family finance when she grew up?
Matt: Yes. That when her father got sick, they went broke. The mother was working a small job. They were in the same bed.
Matt: They she told me she had a godfather. Later she told me it was Jeffrey Epstein. I said, He helped pay your bills? She said Yes.
AUSA: When did she tell you she met Epstein?
Maxwell's lawyer: Objection.
Judge Nathan: Ask more specific questions.
AUSA Moe: Did Jane tell you what happened between her and Jeffrey Epstein?
Matt: Not specifically.
AUSA Moe: Did she say why he gave her money?
Matt: She just said, It was not free.
AUSA Moe: Did they tell you about a women who was involved?
Matt: Yes.
AUSA: Did she give the woman's name?
Matt: No.
AUSA: What was her demeanor like when Jane told you about Jeffrey Epstein?
Matt: Shame.
AUSA: What did Jane tell her mother?
Matt: That the money was not free. That –
AUSA: Don't say what the mother said, just what Jane said.
Matt: Jane told her mother that the money was not free and that it should not have been allowed.
AUSA Moe: Did you learn Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested.
Matt: Yes. On the news. I asked Jane, is that the woman you told me about? And she said Yes.
AUSA: No further questions.

Then Maxwell's lawyer: No cross [!]

Next witness: Daniel Vesselsen of Interlochen

AUSA: Where is Interlochen, Michigan.
Vesselsen: Near Traverse City.
AUSA: How do you keep fundraising records?
Vesselsen: SalesForce.
AUSA: We offer GX 744 under seal. Now GX 741.
Vesselsen: A letter to Mr. Epstein about the scholarship lodge, how much he'd give
AUSA: What's this?
Vesselsen: The lodge formerly known as the Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge.
[Note: It was definitely time for a name change]
Now at 4:59 pm, cross examination starts.
Maxwell's lawyer: You don't have records for the individual and the individual's siblings, correct?
Vesselsen: Correct.
Maxwell's lawyer: Mr. Epstein certainly was a major donor, correct?
Vesselsen: Yes.
And with that, Vesselsen is done.
Judge Nathan: Sorry we're 2 minutes late. Have a good night.
Clerk: All rise!

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US v. Ghislaine Maxwell - Day 4 Transcripts (uncensoredstorm.com)
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US V. GHISLAINE MAXWELL - DAY 4

Posted by [US] on 12/2/2021 to Maxwell & Epstein
U.S. v Ghislaine Maxwell Transcripts
DAY 4 [12.2.21]
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Day 4. New witness: Paul Kane of NYC's Professional Children's School.

AUSA: Look at Government Exhibit 721. Do you recognize it?
Day 4. New witness: Paul Kane of NYC's Professional Children's School.
AUSA: Look at Government Exhibit 721. Do you recognize it?
Kane: An enrollment application for a student.
AUSA: Don't say the name. Is it an accurate copy?
Kane: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection - hearsay!
AUSA: It's a business record.
Judge Nathan: Overruled.

Maxwell's lawyer: Can I question the witness?
Judge Nathan: Go ahead.
Maxwell's lawyer: The Professional Children's School doesn't verify the accuracy of the info on the form, does it?
Kane: I think they do.
Maxwell's lawyer: All of it?
Kane: That, I don't know.
Maxwell's lawyer: So the info—

AUSA: Your Honor, may I?
Judge Nathan: You may.
AUSA: What happens to info coming in?
Kane: Contact the family by phone, then invite them to tour the school and have a conversation.
AUSA: Does the School rely on the form?
Kane: Yes.

[After sidebar, document is in]

AUSA: What grade was the person applying for?
Kane: 12th. Due to "move to New York."
AUSA: Who's listed as person of financial responsibility?
Kane: Mister Jeffrey Epstein.
AUSA: Thanks. No further questions.

Maxwell's lawyer: You have no idea if Mr. Epstein actually paid.
Kane: I do not.
Maxwell's lawyer: And for the mother, does it say unemployed?
Kane: It says self-employed. As an interior decorator.
Maxwell's lawyer: And who is the listed agent?

AUSA: Objection!
Judge Nathan: Just make the jurors look at it.

Maxwell's lawyer: Look the name in the corner. And the name of the prior principal. You don't have to say them for the record. No further questions.

Judge Nathan: Thank you Mr Kane. Next US witness.

It's Doctor Lisa Rocchio. "I have a Masters and PhD from U of Rhode Island."

[After long presentation of credentials, Rocchio is in as an expert.]

AUSA: Did you interview anyone in this case?
Rocchio: No.
AUSA: Does your pay depend on outcome of the trial?
Rocchio: No.
AUSA: What is grooming?
Rocchio: Strategies to get children into sex
Rocchio: I've seen grooming in the Boy Scouts through a special camping trip. Or jewelry, anything to make the children feel they are appreciated.

[During the Daubert hearing, before trial, Maxwell's lawyer asked, does this mean that grandparents are grooming?]

AUSA: How common is it for a child to be repeatedly abused by the same perp?
Rocchio: Very common. It's by people close to the child.
AUSA: What is a grooming environment?
Rocchio: The perp develops trust with people around the child, for example with the parents

[long non-public sidebar]

AUSA: Are victims of child sexual abuse likely to report it to the police?
Rocchio: No.
AUSA: How do they talk about it?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection - no foundation.
Judge Nathan: I'll sustain. Can you re-phrase?

AUSA: What is the long term impact?
Rocchio: They are at higher risk for adverse outcomes.
AUSA: Nothing further.

Judge Nathan: Let's take our break.

Maxwell's lawyer: Doctor Rocchio, you have a $45,000 contract for this, correct?
Rocchio: Yes.
Maxwell's lawyer: If one had a brain injury, it might be hard to remember, right?

AUSA: Objection.
Judge Nathan: Sustained.

Maxwell's lawyer: Alcohol would harm recall too, yes?

AUSA: Objection.
Judge Nathan: Sustained.

Maxwell's lawyer: Are you familiar with confabulation?

AUSA: Objection!
Judge: Overruled.

Maxwell's lawyer: It's filling in the gaps.

AUSA: Objection.
Judge: Sustained.

Maxwell's lawyer: My grandfather liked to take me to the Bronx Zoo. Was that grooming?

Next US witness is Juan Patricio Alessi.

AUSA: Where do you come from?
Alessi: Quito, Ecuador.
AUSA: When did you move to Florida?
Alessi: Early 1984. I worked for a wealthy family in Palm Beach, I was a maintenance guy. Then I worked for Mister Jeffrey Epstein
AUSA: How did you meet Epstein?
Alessi: I was working on Mister Wexner's mother's house. [!]
AUSA: Who is in this photo?
Alessi: Mr. Jeffrey Epstein
AUSA: When Mr. Epstein was in Palm Beach, where did you sleep?
Alessi: I had a room there.
AUSA: Who else worked there?
Alessi: I brought my wife to help me. And other girls.
AUSA: How did things changed after Ms. Maxwell got involved?
Alessi: Things were less cordial. Less conversation. I was not allowed to see Mr. Epstein anymore, unless he asked me question. Ms. Maxwell said, Don't look at his eyes, "look at another part of him."

[And with that, and a blueprint of the house on the screens]
Judge Nathan: The jurors' lunch has arrived. Let's break.


[Alessi is describing Epstein's Palm Beach home in great detail. Presumably it will become relevant in the testimony of Survivor / Witnesses 2, 3 and 4.]
AUSA: Pull up Gov Exhibit 297. Mr. Alessi what is this?
Alessi: The 2d floor. That is toward Mr. Epstein's bedroom. There was a huge bathroom.
AUSA: And what's that other bathroom?
Alessi: That's Ms. Maxwell's bathroom.
AUSA: But they both came off the master bedroom?
Alessi. Yes.
AUSA: Where did Ms. Maxwell sleep in the Palm Beach house?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection! But it's allowed.

Alessi: She slept in Mr. Epstein's bedroom.
AUSA: How many times did you see females by Mr. Epstein's pool?
Alessi: 100s. AUSA: How often were they topless?
Alessi: 75% of the time
AUSA: How about Little St. James?
Alessi: I was on a cruise with my wife to St. Thomas. They picked us up & showed us Little St. James. It was huge.
AUSA: Did you visit any Ms Maxwell property?
Alessi: Her townhome in London. She invited us. It had a red front door
AUSA: What conversations did you have with Ms. Maxwell about this booklet?
Alessi: I told her I could not do this checklist, with all my other work.
AUSA: Show them Gov Exhibit 606.
AUSA: How long is this book?
Alessi: 58 pages.
AUSA: What is it?
Alessi: List of what were supposed to do to maintain the house.

[Now Maxwell's lawyer will question Alessi about the book of instructions.]

Maxwell's lawyer: When you left, you didn't have this in your possession did you?
Alessi: No I did not.
Maxwell's lawyer: But this book was created after you left, at least by the date on it

Maxwell's lawyer: We object to 606.
AUSA: He identified pages.
Judge Nathan: I'm overruling the objection. 606 is admitted.

AUSA: We you recognize the address at the bottom?
Alessi: Mr. Epstein's residence.
AUSA: What does this instruction saw?
Alessi: "Do not discuss your personal problems with guests."
AUSA: And this one?
Alessi: "Respect their privacy."
AUSA: There's a reference to the JE and the GM telephone directories. What were they?
Alessi: Books with hundreds and hundreds of names. Directions and addresses.
Alessi: They were 2 inches thick. Full of names.
AUSA [for some reason turning away from the 2 black books, at least for now] Let's turn to page 23, about Ms. Maxwell's desk. What does it say?
Alessi: Please the directory to the right of the phone.
Assistant US Attorney: What is this?
Alessi: Instructions for serving breakfast. Sometimes at 5 am.
AUSA: Who else worked there?
Alessi: Chefs. My wife. Ms Maxwell's assistant. Then Sarah Kellen.
Alessi: Two females seemed to be underage.
AUSA: Don't say their names. Jurors, look at the binders under your chairs. GX 12.
Alessi: Can I have a cup of water?
AUSA: Is that name the person we'll call Jane?
Alessi: Yes. I met Virginia Roberts too.
AUSA: When you met Jane how old was she?
Alessi: Appeared 14 or 15. She was beautiful, beautiful eyes, long brunette hair, very pleasant. Three times she was there with her mother. Then, without her mother. Many times.
AUSA: How would Jane get to the house?
Alessi: I would pick her up, and the direction of Mr. Epstein or Ms. Maxwell.
AUSA: When did you meet Ms Virginia Roberts?
Alessi: I was at Mar-A-Lago with Ms. Maxwell. I waited in the car like the driver
Alessi: It was a hot day. Ms. Maxwell said, Stop, John, Stop. I did and Ms Maxwell went up to this girl.
AUSA: Where was this girl?
Alessi: She was coming down the ramp.
AUSA: How did she look?
Alessi: Young.
Alessi: Then by 5 pm I saw her [Virginia Roberts] back at the house.
AUSA: Show Exhibits 113 and 114 only to the witness and parties... How old did you think Ms Roberts was?
Alessi: 14 or 15.
AUSA: Did Ms. Maxwell ever instruct you to pick up Ms. Roberts?
Alessi: Yes.
AUSA: Did you ever see Ms. Roberts at Mr. Epstein's home with luggage?
Alessi: Yes. I drove them to the plane.
AUSA: How many massages would Mr. Epstein get a day?
Alessi: Before I left, thee a day. I called whoever they told me to call.
AUSA: Did the phone books we discussed have names for massage in them?
Alessi: Yes.
AUSA: Did you see Jane's name in it?
Alessi: Yes. The books were updated twice a year.
AUSA: What did you do with them, when new ones were made?
Alessi: Just throw them away.
AUSA: I have a physical exhibit, GX 52. May I approach the witness? Do you recognize it? What is it?
Alessi: It is the directory.
AUSA: Did you review it last night?
Alessi: I did.
AUSA: Every page?
Alessi: Yes.
AUSA: How many names?
Alessi: Many. Many. Many.
AUSA: Is this the same you saw when you were that or a later version?
Alessi: A later version.
AUSA: Pull up Exhibit 52a. It is a sealed exhibit.
Judge Nathan: Let's take a break.

[with jury out, lawyers' arguments continue. Assistant US Attorney says "We are not offering the full exhibit 52 [the black book]. [Why not?] Now break is taken]
All rise!
Now Alessi back.

AUSA: How often was the directory updated?
Alessi: Twice a year. And the names of new employees were added, and those who left were taken out.
AUSA: Is Sarah Kellen in this version?

Objection - leading.
Judge Nathan: I'll overrule that.
[Long sidebar, after which Maxwell's lawyer does the questioning]

Maxwell's lawyer: As you sit here today, 19 years later, you have no idea where Exhibit 52 has been?
Maxwell's lawyer: You said the book was two inches thick. But Exhibit 52 is a quarter inch thick, correct?
Alessi: Yes.
Maxwell's lawyer: The book you were talking about was from New York, right?
Alessi: Yes
Maxwell's lawyer: And the PostIt(TM) notes weren't there, right?
Alessi: Right. But it continues:

AUSA: Did you take messages for Mr. Epstein? How?
Alessi: If he didn't want to talk the call. Or wasn't there.
Maxwell's lawyer: There are a number of pages without dates next to the names. Do you know that?
Alessi: I guess so.
Judge Nathan: Exhibits admitted.
AUSA: They are sealed - not to be put on screens, binders only. More more questions:
AUSA: What supplies did you buy for the massages?
Alessi: No oils, I was –

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection!

AUSA: Did Ms Maxwell give you supplies?
Alessi: Exotic oils for other countries.
AUSA: Was Mr. Epstein's door open during the massages?
Alessi: Never. Afterward I went in with gloves.
AUSA: Why?
Alessi: To clean up.
AUSA: What did you see after the massages? Towels?
Alessi: Yes. But not all of the massages.
AUSA: Do any incidents stand out in your mind?
Alessi: I found a large dildo.
AUSA Comey: What did you do with it?
Alessi: Wash it up.
AUSA: Where did you put the dildo?
Alessi: In Ms. Maxwell's bathroom. In a basket.
AUSA: How did you know where to put it?
Alessi: I knew everything going on in the house.
AUSA: What else was in the basket?
Alessi: I saw pornographic tapes.
AUSA: How often did you see the dildo?
Alessi: At least five times.
AUSA: And the other one, the massager, did the ball at the end vibrate?
Alessi: Yes. I would put it at the top of Mr. Epstein's dresser.
AUSA Comey: What photos were in the house?
Alessi: Photos of Mr Epstein and Ms Maxwell with important people.
AUSA: Like who?
Alessi: Donald Trump. The Pope, I think, Fidel Castro.
AUSA: Were there photographs of naked women?
Alessi: Yes. But those were kept in Ms. Maxwell's desk.
AUSA: Why did you leave Mr Epstein's employ?
Alessi: I was sick and tired.
AUSA: Did you sign a non-disclosure agreement?
Alessi: Yes. About both of them.
AUSA: Were you questioned by the police after you took $6300 from Mr. Epstein?
Alessi: Yes.
AUSA: Were you arrested?
Alessi: No.
AUSA: Nothing further.
Maxwell's lawyers: We'll start our cross tomorrow [it's 4:48]

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Beth

Date 12/2/2021

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you are lying about testimony stating Trump was there! I know
[US]

Date 12/2/2021

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No one has said anything about Donald Trump being there. Day 1 the pilot said he flew Donald Trump once. Which there is a record of DJT flying from FL to NY in the 90s, NOT to Little St John Island and NOT on the Lolita Express. Any other time Trump's name is brought up,, it's from name dropping. Like when they talk about their "circles" , or a photograph. Remember, once DJT found out about JE, when JE tried to pick up a minor at Mar a Lago, JE was BANNED from Mar a Lago, from then on. Trump also turned Epstein in to authorities. I will write a blog post soon with all of the details, citations, videos, flight logs, etc. AUSA is Comey's daughter. They are still desperately trying to pin things on Trump. But there is nothing. It will be fun to watch them eat crow. Do not worry. #hold the line
Beth

Date 12/2/2021

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thank you
Dwight

Date 12/3/2021

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I am so confused by the previous posts. Beth, how do you know that DJT was there?


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US V. GHISLAINE MAXWELL - DAY 5

Posted by [US] on 12/3/2021 to Maxwell & Epstein
U.S. v Ghislaine Maxwell Transcripts
DAY 5 [12.3.21]
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Day 5, with Epstein's house manager Juan Alessi still on the stand

Maxwell's lawyer (before jury comes in) Seeing semen on the table is going to be prejudicial.
AUSA: It was a white stain. It is entirely probative as to whether these massages were just messages or were in fact sexual.

Judge Nathan: I would permit lab tests

Assistant US Attorney: The fact that Mr. Epstein had a collection of schoolgirl uniforms is relevant.
Maxwell's lawyer: This has little connection Ms. Maxwell and is prejudicial.
AUSA: School girl costumes, small ones, were found in the massage room.
Maxwell's lawyer: They should not be described as schoolgirl uniforms.
AUSA: I'll just lay a foundation then ask the witness about them.

Judge Nathan: You could say, without describing them, did you find these items.
Maxwell's lawyer: The interior and artwork changed, by 2019. The witness we call "Jane" said it was creepy, with drawing of monsters on the walls and naked women. We think these photos should be excluded. The photos of nude girls in the massage room

Judge Nathan: Maybe there's a way to position two screens, and only show them to the jurors. I'll ask Ms. Williams to ask the A/V people. Can show video so that only the jurors can see it, and no one else? We'll see.
Please bring in the jurors.
Judge Nathan: Mr. Alessi, you may return to the stand.

Jury enters.
All rise!

Maxwell's lawyer: Mr. Alessi, you said you are called Juan but don't you sometimes say, "I am John"?
Alessi: I am John, in English.
Maxwell's lawyer: Ms. Maxwell speaks Spanish and called you Juan. You did not take it as an insult, no?
Alessi: No, I did not.
Maxwell's lawyer: You took $6300 dollars, right?
Alessi: Yes.
Maxwell's lawyer: But didn't you lie - when you stole twice, in fact?
Alessi: I did not lie.
Maxwell's lawyer: Didn't you try to steal a gun? Didn't you steal over $5000 to pay for the immigration papers of your girlfriend?
Alessi: It was not my girlfriend.
Maxwell's lawyer: Police Officer Dawson questioned you?
Alessi: No, I went to him.
Maxwell's lawyer: You told him you went in to steal a gun.
Alessi: I don't recall.
Maxwell's lawyer: You might have said it, but now you don't recall?
Alessi: That's it.
Maxwell's lawyer: & you went back once again to steal money?
Alessi: I did it one time & I think that is what I told the police.
Maxwell's lawyer: You went through the sliding glass door and stole $5600 from Mr. Epstein's briefcase, $100 bills in a white envelope?
Maxwell's lawyer: Show the witness 3504-002, deposition transcript. I move for admission under Rule 801.

[Note: "(A) is inconsistent with the declarant’s testimony & was given under penalty of perjury at a trial, hearing, or other proceeding or in a deposition;"]

Maxwell's lawyer: You stole $6000, when you owned properties valued at $1 million.
Alessi: I sold those properties, to buy the property for the multi-family.
Maxwell's lawyer: Let's look again at 3504-002, deposition page 145.

[Note: During all this, Ghislaine Maxwell is leaning back and even masked, seems pleased with herself..]

Maxwell's lawyer: I'm having trouble seeing in here.

ALERT: Maxwell's lawyer has just openly said the real name of one of the pseudonymous survivor witnesses.

Judge Nathan: You are admonished to abide by my rulings.
AUSA: May we approach?
Sidebar begins...

Returning from the sidebar..

Maxwell's lawyer: Mr. Alessi, you testified about when JANE met Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell.
Alessi: In this testimony I mistook the two –
Maxwell's lawyer: In 2016 you were directed to the name JANE and you said No

Now Maxwell's lawyer is cross examining Juan Alessi about Epstein's Palm Beach house. Unclear what Judge Nathan will do about Team Maxwell repeatedly blurting out the real names of pseudonymous survivor(s).

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you see the notation, new moldings in the bedrooms?
Alessi: Yes.
Maxwell's lawyer: And during construction, no one live in its?
Alessi: No, during part of it Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell lived there.
Maxwell's lawyer: You were asked if JANE was driving and you said you never saw Jane driving a car. Those are all questions about Jane, right?
Alessi: I think so.

Maxwell's lawyer: Let's take the break.
Judge Nathan: OK.

Now Alessi back on the stand, with Maxwell's lawyer asking about Virginia Roberts [Giuffre] at Mar-a-Lago
Maxwell's lawyer: I'm asking about what you [Alessi] said –

AUSA: We ask for the whole thing to be read.

Maxwell's lawyer: So you say, Summer, I remember, I was sweating like hell in the car waiting for Ms. Maxwell to come out of the car.

[This could take a while]

Maxwell's lawyer: Mr. Alessi, didn't you keep a Rolodex of the girls?
Alessi: No, of the massage therapists.
Maxwell's lawyer: You got referrals for massage therapists?
Alessi: No sir.
Maxwell's lawyer: You said, One of Jeffrey Epstein's friends would say, I got a good massage, and you'd say, please give me the answer.
Alessi: I never –

Maxwell's lawyer: You previously said this under oath. May I continue your Honor?
Judge Nathan: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: Isn't it true that Mr Epstein bought other women to the house and told you to remove the pictures of Ms. Maxwell from the house?
Alessi: I did what he told me to do.
Maxwell's lawyer: Why did you THINK you were taking Ms. Maxwell's picture down, when Mr. Epstein had the other women over?
Alessi: I have no idea.
Maxwell's lawyer: Mr. Alessi, as Mr. Epstein's direction you called women and set up massages, correct?
Alessi: Yes.
Maxwell's lawyer: And that doesn't make you guilty of sex trafficking, does it?

AUSA: Objection!

Maxwell's lawyer: And when you cleaned the massage room, you have saw signs of violence, right? No one complained to your of that?
Alessi (voice rising) No but I wish they had, I would have done something.

[Some laughter]

[Programming note, as Alessi ends - some may not believe his statements that he didn't know, or especially the claim near the end of cross examination that if only the victim has complained, he would have acted. Some, it seems, found that laughable. Discretely]

AUSA: No re-direct.
Judge Nathan: Next witness: It's Gregory Parkinson, questioned by AUSA Comey.

The topic, we believe, will be search of Epstein's home. But first, his credential and career. This could take a while.

Parkinson: I participated in a search in Palm Beach.
AUSA Comey: What is this?
Parkinson: A map or aerial view.
AUSA: Had you been there before?
Parkinson: Yes, on a report of a theft of currency. I met Mr. Jeffrey Epstein.

Now before it gets into what was found during the search - Judge Nathan calls the lunch break; A/V will set up screens only jurors can see.

They are showing the jurors a video of the search warrant reading (and execution?) at Epstein's house. But we the Press and public can't see it.

AUSA Comey: at 1 minute, were are we?
Parkinson: In the 3 car garage
AUSA Comey: What do we see here, during the search?
Officer Parkinson: A picture of Pope John Paul with Jeffrey Epstein.

[Note: while these exhibits are sealed, for some reason]

AUSA Comey is still telling the jurors to look at one seal exhibit after another, now Government Exhibit 225.

[One might say, This is a semi-public trial.]

AUSA Comey: I ask that Government Exhibit 234 be admitted, under seal. Also 241, under seal.

Judge Nathan: Granted. Under seal.

[Finally, some exhibits not under seal.]

AUSA Comey: What is this, in Exhibit 228?
Parkinson: It's the Garden Room.

[There are photos spread out all over the floor, but no details can be made out.]

AUSA Comey: I'd like the jurors to look in their binders at Exhibit 255... Oh witness only. I ask that Government Exhibit 278, the master bathroom, be under seal to protect privacy [???]

Judge Nathan: We'll take our break, snacks are here.

Now even Judge Nathan says US has gone too far in sealing entire 39 minute video, says some portion should be made public.
AUSA Comey: We'll work on that. [When?]

[In fairness to Judge Nathan, it was the jurors who took a snacks break. The judge and lawyers stayed to argue, and now take a "comfort break."]

OK, the jurors are back from snacks break.

AUSA Comey: Let's turn to Government Exhibit 278.
Parkinson: It's a bathroom with a phone and a pink, three cushion couch. And that's a portable inflatable massage table.

[We're back to mass-sealing]

AUSA Comey: I ask to admit Government Exhibit 285, under seal, and "direct the jurors' attention to that writing."
Finally, Parkinson comes out of the witness box and touches Government Exhibit 51..."the green massage table."
AUSA Comey: We offer this [massage table] into evidence. I asked that the exhibit be published for the jury by setting the table up
Parkinson: Now the table is in an open position.

Exhibit 51a: Photo of massage table on its side.

AUSA Comey: Where was it manufactured?
Parkinson: Vista, California.
AUSA Comey: No further questions.

Judge Nathan: Mr. Everdell, you may cross.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: You previously investigated a burglary there, correct?
Parkinson: True.
Everdell: And Mr. Epstein said that several thousand dollars had been stolen, right?
Parkinson: True.

[Everdell is jumping around with his questions, laughing uncomfortably now. He asked Parkinson about an exhibit - sealed - that is Epstein's desk and the photos on it.]
And with that, without apparently landing a punch, Everdell's cross examination of Parkinson is over.

Judge Nathan: You may step down, Mr. Parkinson. You are free to take your flight.

New US witness, starting at 4:38 pm on Friday: Michael Dawson, Palm Beach PD

AUSA: What were you looking for, during the search?
Dawson: Massage tables and oil. Sex toys. There were a lot of photos of nude females. We seized a phone book, a massage table, photo of a nude female, a sex toy called the torpedo

[Flashes on screen & is gone]

Now cross examination, starting at 4:49 pm

Maxwell's lawyer: I'm going to prove up an inconsistent statement.
Judge Nathan: Confer first.

After a time…

Maxwell's lawyer: We need a sidebar. [Non-public]

[Now the questioning turns to Juan Alessi's admission of stealing from Epstein. But it's 4:59 pm. Cross examination interrupt us?]

Judge Nathan: We're done for the week. Obey my instructions. Oh and by the way, we will not sit Dec 13, 14 or 15...

[Why, is not explained. Some letters due Sat & Sunday, both at 8 pm.]

All rise!

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US v. Ghislaine Maxwell - Day 5 (uncensoredstorm.com)
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United States v Ghislaine Maxwell Links & Transcripts

Posted by [US] on 12/1/2021 to Maxwell & Epstein
United States v Ghislaine Maxwell Trial Transcripts

 

What was Bill Clinton doing with Ghislaine Maxwell in India?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGMh2AQmDhU

What was Bill Clinton doing with Ghislaine Maxwell in India? #shorts

 

Ghislaine Maxwell trial : Epstein’s massage table brought into court as jury shown video inside his home

Rounding out a week of testimony, on Friday, jurors were shown video footage of the inside of the Palm Beach house
at the centre of the allegations. Epstein’s massage table, where much of the abuse is alleged to have occurred,
was brought into the courtroom.

His former housekeeper, Juan Alessi, testified in detail on Thursday afternoon about his duties at the Palm Beach mansion,
what he saw happen there, and Ms Maxwell’s role. He appeared to back up much of the testimony of the accuser
known as “Jane” from earlier in the week.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ine-maxwell-news-trial-coverage-b1969298.html

Epstein’s massage table brought into courtroom
As it happened

 

if you think they are panicking about flight logs,
wait til the videos of them under The Temple comes out !!!

 

https://archive.org/details/ghislane-maxwell-unsealed-documents-uncensored-opt


Ghislane Maxwell Unsealed Documents (uncensored) Opt : court filings from multiple sources :
Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Unsealed case documents (1796 pages) from a civil suit filed by Virginia L. Guiffre,
alleging that Virginia Giuffre became a victim of sex trafficking and...
Ghislane Maxwell Unsealed Documents (uncensored) Opt : court filings from multiple sources : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

https://archive.org/details/ghislane-maxwell-unsealed-documents-uncensored-opt