RIP...Robin Williams

Robin Williams,
I am writing you a short note to say, "You are loved by so many people."
By now, you have an idea of how many people truly loved you at this point.
The world is sad because of our loss of such a great talent and person.
You gave us direction in finding a place within our hearts that was sacred.
Your spirit will remain in our hearts more than you can know.
You have healed so many people through laughter.
It doesn't matter why you chose to take your life away from us,
but you will never take your spirit away from us.
Your gifts were given to you at birth,
and you have returned them to the place from which you came to us.

Just know this one thing my friend. You are a good soul.

You have touched the heart of so many people and made us believe in the goodness of living
even though you could not on your own.

What an ultimate sacrifice this must have been for you to go beyond your own hopes
to give to others what they could not possess themselves.

Truly, you had to be more soul than body to do such acts of grace to the people you loved.

Again, just know you are loved. I will always remember your smile.

It would open my heart each time you gave one.
It felt as though your soul would merge with mine and a oneness with our Creator would fill mine with joy.
Love moved through you and not from you Robin Williams.
Because of this, I believe you are now in the presence of the Wisdom
that knew how to Create a man whose life made everyone else's a little better for having known you.
Thanks My Friend,
Sam Oliver

 

Jenetta on Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:42 pm
Thank you Susan for opening up your life to us....

I was saddened and amazed that Robin had left us for happier climes. I also had no idea that he battled depression. Any movie I have seen Robin perform in I have loved and loved him more.
He was "one of a kind" just like Luciano Pavarotti was "one of a kind". I still remember his role in Peter Pan.

I have not been immune to the issue of suicide as friends, lovers and caregivers I have known committed suicide. They all chose different ways to take their life and the way they chose was mostly severe compared to Robin's way.
After I received news of their death I always wondered "why"? I always wondered if there was something I could have done to allay their deaths. One case in particular I had a sense of guilt even though I hadn't seen that person in years. Then again I didn't know they had bi-polar issues.

It is not unusual that most people at one time or another in their lives has contemplated the idea of suicide.
Most of us carry on despite our circumstances.
As Susan mentioned carrying out the act of suicide takes a lot of courage. Some have changed their mind at the last moment although in such instances many times it was already too late. Unfortunate indeed.

I will always cherish Robin Williams. Anyone who can make me laugh gets very high marks to my way of thinking. On a planet such as ours humour and hope is what keeps all of us sane.

R.I.P. Robin for you were everyone's Friend...this little note from his youngest daughter:

Zelda Williams Age 25

Zelda Williams quoted Antoine de Saint-Exupéry's book The Little Prince:

“You—you alone will have the stars as no one else has them… In one of the stars I shall be living. In one of them I shall be laughing. And so it will be as if all the stars were laughing, when you look at the sky at night, you — only you— will have stars that can laugh.”

Following the quote, she added, "I'll try to keep looking up."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/robin-williams-hanged-himself-in-his-home-sheriff-s-office-1.2734061



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Robin Williams, is my 18th cousin

Susan Lynne Schwenger
You
→ Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
your mother
→ JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
her father
→ JAMES aka JIM HANDY SR.
his father
→ Marion (Rennie) Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
his mother
→ Alexander or Alex (Thompson) Ruthven
her father
→ Robert (Witherspoon) Ruthven, SR
his father
→ John (Henderson) Ruthven
his father
→ John (Peadie) Ruthven
his father
→ John (Hutcheson) Ruthven
his father
→ George (Reid) Ruthven
his father
→ William Alexander (Clerk) Ruthven
his father
→ William (Gray) Ruthven
his father
→ Sir William Ruthven
his father
→ William Ruthven, 2nd Lord Ruthven
his father
→ Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
his mother
→ Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
her mother
→ Sir John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
her father
→ Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
his mother
→ Edmund Beaufort, 2nd Duke of Somerset
her brother
→ Eleanor Beaufort
his daughter
→ Margaret Carey
her daughter
→ Sir William Carey, Kt.
her son
→ Catherine Carey, Chief Lady of the Bedchamber
his daughter
→ Anne West, Baroness de la Warr
her daughter
→ Zachariah West
her son
→ Margaret Hicks
his daughter
→ Daniel Hicks
her son
→ Thomas Hicks
his son
→ Thomas Hicks
his son
→ Rebecca Hicks
his daughter
→ Anna Tullos
her daughter
→ Ellen Caroline Tullos
her daughter
→ Anselm J. McLaurin, Governor, U.S. Senator
her son
→ Stella May McLaurin
his daughter
→ Laura McLaurin Berry
her daughter
→ Laura "Laurie" Williams (McLaurin)
her daughter
→ Robin Williams
her son

We share a common great grandmother at the 16th Level
Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
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and, a common great grandfather at the 16th level
James Stewart, The Black Knight of Lorn
August 17, 1451 (56) was at sea (killed by pirates)

Son of Sir John Stewart of Innermeath and Isobel MacDougall, of Argyll

Son of Robert Stewart of Innermeath, Knight and Isabella Margaret, Countess of Fife, and Angus, Heiress of Hokettle MacDuff

Son of Sir James Stewart of Pierston, Knight and M1 Stewart

Son of John Stewart of Bonkyl and Garlies and Margaret de Bonkyl

Son of Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland and Jean MacRory of Bute

Son of Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland and Bethóc (Beatrix) nic Gille Crist, Countess of Angus

Son of Alain Fitzwalter, 2d High Steward of Scotland and Alesta of Mar

Son of Walter FitzAlan, 1st High Steward of Scotland and Eschyna de Molle

Son of Alan fitzFlaad, Sheriff of Shropshire and Avelina de Hesding, domina Norton
[Oswestry Castle, , Oswestry, Shropshire, West Midlands, England]

Son of Flaald, Seneschal de Dol en Bretagne and daughter of Norton, domina Norton
[Dol-de-Bretagne, Bretagne, France]

Son of Alain "Dapifer" fitz Flaald, Seneschal of Dol and St Margaret "Filia Rex" Fitz Flaald
[Dol-de-Bretagne, Bretagne, France]

Son of Flaald, seneschal of Dol and NN possible daughter of Crinan & Bethoc of Atholl, Princess of Scotland

Son of Aimon I, viscount of Dinan and Raentlina de Bretagne, Daughter of Martin de Bretagne de Vitré and Rantlina de Vitré
[Dinan, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France]

Son of Binidic "Castellin" de Cournouaille and Liutgarde de Vermandois
[Dinan, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France]

Son of Budic Bethoc Comte de rennes de Cornouaille
[Rennes, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France]

Son of Prince Diles Heiguer Chebre de Cornouaille and Alava de Cornouaille, Daughter of Louvenan de Cournouaille, Count of Cornwall
[Cornouaille, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France]

Son of Prince Ulfret Alesrudon de Cornouaille and Guegen de Poher, Daughter of Rivallon (Riwalon) Comte de Poher and Gerwenn de Cornouaille

Son of Alfrond ap Justin de Cornouaille

Son of Prince Justin ap Constantine de Cornouaille

Son of Prince Constantine ap Judon de Cornouaille and Barliis (Barilie) Cornouaille, Daughter of Fragual Fradeleoc

Son of Judon ap Concar Ap Concar, Pr. Cornouille

Son of Concar Cheronnog ap Gradlon, Prince of Cornwall

Son of Gradlon Flam Ap Judicael, Count

Son of Saint Judicael and Morone de Bretagne, Daughter of King Canao II of Broërec

Son of Hoël III ap Alain de Cornouaille, King of Bretagne, roi de Bretagne and Fratelle verch Osoche, Daughter of Osoche de Leon

Son of Alan I/Alain 8th King of Brittany, ruled 554-594 and Azenor De Normandy de Brest

Son of Hoel II 7th King of Brittany, ruled 545-554 and Rimo Tymyr Princess of Wales verch Rhun, Daughter of Rhun the Tall, King of Gwynedd and Perwyr verch Rhun

Son of HoelI, Le Grand 6th King of Brittany, ruled 509-545 and Alma Pompea verch Riatham

Son of Budic Emyr Llydaw ap Erich, King of Brittany and Elaine Queen of Garlot verch Gwyrlys, Daughter of Gorlois, duke of Cornwall and Igerna ferch Amlawdd

Son of Erich, Duke of Brittany ap Aldrien, Duke of Brittany

Son of Aldrien Ap Selyfan Aldroenus

Son of Salomon I ap Gradlon, King of Brittany and Flavia, Daughter of Patricius Flavius

Son of Gradlon Mawr "The Great" ap Conan, King of Brittany and Tigridia verch Calpurnius,
Daughter of Calpurnius and Conchessa Calpurnius

Son of Conan Meriadek/Cynan Meiriadog/Kynan Meiriadawe leader of the Bretons and Saint Dareca,
Daughter of Calpurnius and Conchessa Calpurnius

Son of Gereint Caradoc ab Einudd, Lord of Meridoc

Son of Einudd Ap Gwrddwfn, King of Wales

Son of Gwrddwfin ap Cwrrig

Son of Cwrrig Goruc Mawr King of Silures ap Meirchion, King of Wales

Son of Meirchion ap Owain, King of Wales and NN . verch Animadab, Daughter of Owain Ap Beli Ap Cyllin and Eurgen Verch Llewfer

Son of Owain Eurgen ap Marius Cyllin, King of Wales; Owain ap Beli and Eurgen . verch Lleurig or Beli

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Koko was sad:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...13-years-video-captured-two-fast-friends.html

She became extremely sad': Carers for the world's most intelligent gorilla claim she was 'close to tears'
following news of Robin Williams' death - 13 years after video captured the two becoming fast friends

News of Robin Williams' untimely death hit particularly close to home for famed sign language gorilla Koko,
who handlers say was moved nearly to tears by the somber mood shared by all at her Northern California home.

Staff at the Gorilla Foundation were, like much of America, in mourning after hearing the news Monday.
Williams visited their center in 2001 and quickly befriended Koko, making her laugh for the first time in six months.

So when they explained to Koko, who is fluent in American Sign Language, that a dear friend of the center had died,
she soon became sad and is pictured sitting hunched over with a quivering lip.

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Sad moment: News of Robin Williams' untimely death hit particularly close to home for famed sign language gorilla Koko, whose handlers say was moved nearly to tears by the somber mood shared by all at her Northern California home

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Match made in heaven: Koko and Williams met in 2001 and became fast friends
Koko even signed the words 'cry lip' -- lip being her word for woman -- as she watched staff reacting to the news.
'She became extremely sad,' Koko's caretaker Dr. Penny Patterson wrote on Koko.org.
Footage from the day Koko and Williams met is as uplifting as his suicide is tragic.


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The actor arrived there as a stranger to the gorilla with a personal interest in ape conservation. He left as Koko's friend.
They truly appeared to bond as the gorilla insisted on Williams tickling her and tried on his eyeglasses much to his delight.


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Koko's smiles, which were all caught on camera, were the first in months since her good friend -- a 27-year-old gorilla named Michael -- had passed away.
'Robin’s ability to just "hang out" with Koko, a gorilla, and in minutes become one of her closest friends, was extraordinary and unforgettable,' Dr. Patterson wrote.
Now the story has come full circle and Koko has lost another friend, though she'll forever have the memories of the time the funnyman lifted her up in dark times.
'Not only did Robin cheer up Koko,' said Patterson, 'the effect was mutual, and Robin seemed transformed.'


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Mutually beneficial: Williams made Koko laugh and smile for the first time since her longtime companion, a gorilla named Michael, had died six months earlier

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Read more:
Koko Remembers Robin Williams | koko.org


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Re: RIP - ROBIN WILLIAMS

THEeXchanger on Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:06 pm

Robin Williams Fans Turn Toward Visions of Him in Heaven in 'What Dreams May Come'



As the world mourns the death of Robin Williams, the body of work left behind by the talented and much loved comic-actor is being celebrated and shared. Fans are revisiting films like Mrs. Doubtfire and Dead Poets Society and Hook. One movie, though, has emerged as a surprising talking point: the 1998 drama What Dreams May Come.

The spiritually themed (and visually stunning) drama began trending on Twitter within hours of Monday’s news that the 63-year-old Williams had died of an apparent suicide in Marin County, California.

The movie was among a group of titles from Williams’s roughly 50-film career that quickly rose to the top of the charts
on both Amazon and iTunes, nestled among bigger hits like Good Will Hunting, The Birdcage and Patch Adams.

As of this morning, What Dreams May Come was the 45th most-downloaded movie on iTunes,
and the 40th top-selling movie on Amazon — ahead of Hook and Aladdin.


By no measure could Dreams be considered among Williams’ biggest hits – the film made a modest $55 million at the box office,
just a shade less than Jack and Bicentennial Man, both films regarded as box-office busts.
And though the drama received two Oscar nominations in the technical categories (and won for Best Visual Effects), it was met with mostly middling reviews.

But 16 years after its release, What Dreams May Come has slowly, quietly acquired a loyal following;
it boasts a strong 85 percent audience-approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. And given the film’s themes of love and sacrifice,
it’s easy to see why the actor’s fans would gravitate toward Dreams in the wake of Williams’ passing.
The movie, based on a 1978 novel by noted sci-fi author Richard Matheson,
tells the story of Dr. Chris Nielsen (Williams), a loving father and husband who experiences the pain and horror
of having his two children perish in a car accident.

Chris and his artist wife Annie (Annabella Sciorra) are heartbroken and struggle to make their marriage survive.

Having just restored some stability to their relationship, Chris dies (in yet another car crash).

After a short spell lingering on Earth to keep an eye on an emotionally devastated Annie, Chris eventually reawakens in heaven,
where he finds a companion in a gentle and kindred spirit (Cuba Gooding Jr.). Annie, unable to cope with the loss of her family,
takes her own life.

When Chris learns that Annie’s fate, as a victim of suicide, is one of eternal damnation, he ventures into Hell to rescue her.

It’s a natural reaction any time we deal with such a grievous loss to contemplate what’s fate has in store for us.

Seeing Williams’s Chris undertake such a mission clearly provides both the bereaved (and his fans) some much-needed comfort.

"I like to imagine Robin Williams is in the heaven he goes to in What Dreams May Come, just painting a perfect landscape with his true love," wrote a fan named Ryland on Twitter. “He was great in What Dreams May Come and now he gets to find out if his Heaven
is exactly as he made it,” tweeted The Partridge Family star Danny Bonaduce. “I just watched WHAT DREAMS MAY COME
& cried my eyes out. I highly recommend you doing the same,” offered Tom Rhodes, another admirer.


The film could also prove too difficult for others to handle, especially given some of the stark parallels between life and art.

What Dreams May Come deals heavily with both depression, which Williams battled for decades, and suicide. “It’s the way this film balances its heartbreaking subject matter that stands out,” opined Bustle writer Alanna Bennett about the film’s portrayal of depression.

“It’s what leads me to endless re-watches, and though I don’t have access to Williams’ thoughts, it’s what I suspect led him
to sign on to play the lead role.” And while the Hollywood version finds Williams reuniting with his kids and on a quest
to find his soul mate, in real life the actor has left behind three children and a grieving wife.

In a 2013 Reddit AMA, one fan of Dreams – who confessed that she “wept like an emotionally disturbed infant” watching it — asked Williams the most valuable thing he learned from the role. “That every moment in life is precious? That the gifts of your relationships with others, don’t miss it,” he answered, adding: “That was one of the hardest movies I think I ever did in my whole career. Every day was literally hell, because of the nature of the subject matter, dealing with death and being in hell literally.” (Williams also talked about the film’s climax, which he was disappointed by; he preferred an alternate ending they shot that closed on a stronger reincarnation theme.)

[Related: Here Are 8 Great .GIFs of Robin Williams Dancing That Will Make You Smile]
Williams’ wide-ranging comedy routines often dealt with dark subjects, and he frequently discussed death.

As he once famously said, “Death is nature’s way of saying, ‘Your table is ready.’” His profound characters have been as equally oft-quoted by fans. “Real loss is only possible when you love something more than you love yourself,” he said as Sean Maguire
in his Oscar-winning turn in Good Will Hunting.

James Lipton, host of the popular interview series Inside the Actor’s Studio, called into MSNBC Monday to recall how
Williams responded to his recurring question, “If heaven exists, how would you like God to greet you at the pearly gates?”
during a 2001 episode. “There’s seating near the front,” Williams responded with a slight laugh.

“The concert begins at 5. It’ll be Mozart, Elvis, and anyone of your choosing…. It would just be nice, if heaven existed,
to know that there’s laughter. That would be a great thing. Just to hear God go, ‘Two Jews walk into a bar.’”

"Maybe he’s hearing God say that right now," Lipton added.



https://www.yahoo.com/movies/robin-williams-fans-turn-toward-visions-of-him-in-94564567702.html

 

Aquaries1111 on Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:38 pm
Includes a Robin Williams reading.


from: youtube.com/watch?v=y6Q4IsKD6hQ

Love Robin and Tom.. xoxoxo

I am the Dreamer and the Dream




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Closing the gap on getting family tree correct !!!


William Ruthven, 1st Earl of Gowrie, 4th Lord of Ruthven is your 14th cousin 12 times removed.

You - susan lynne schwenger

→ Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger

your mother → Viola Mae Drury - Handy

her mother → Eva "Effie" Teresa Kopitoski - Drury

her mother → Amelia Annie Musclow - Kopitoski

her mother → Johann Gottfried (John) Musclow (Musculus)

her father → Catherina Dorthea Spiegel - Musclow (Musculus)

his mother → Gottfried Spiegel

her father → Johan Michael Spiegel

his father → Maria Barbara Hirschmann - Spiegel

his mother → Johann Ludwig Hirschmann

her father → Agnes or Anna Catharina or Katherina Schlosser - Hirschmann

his mother → Agnes Engel - Schlosser

her mother → Barbara Engel

her mother → Johann Michael Sattler

her father → Johannes Johann Sattler, 111.

his father → Barbara von Gaisberg - Sattler

his mother → Hans von Gaisberger of Gaisberg

her father → Heinrich von Gaisberger

his father → Guta Thumb von Neuburg

his mother → Gräfin Anna von Aichelberg

her mother → Guta of Landau, Countess

her mother → Eberhard III von Landau, Count

her father → Ith Irmingard von Pfirt

his mother → Theobald von Pfirt, Comte de Ferrette

her father → Agnès de Vergy, dame de Morey

his mother → Guillaume I de Vergy, Sire de Mirebeau et d'Autrey

her father → Alix / Adélaïde de Vergy, Duchesse de Bourgogne

his sister → Hugh IV, Duke of Burgundy

her son → Alix (Adelheid) of Burgundy

his daughter → Marie Capet, queen consort of France

her daughter → Marguerite of France, Queen of England

her daughter → Edmund of Woodstock, 1st Earl of Kent

her son → Joan, Countess of Kent

his daughter → Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent

her son → Margaret Holland, Duchess of Clarence

his daughter → Joan Beaufort, Queen of Scots

her daughter → James Stewart, 1st Earl of Buchan

her son → James Stewart of Traquair

his son → Isabel Stewart

his daughter → Janet Douglas

her daughter → William Ruthven, 1st Earl of Gowrie, 4th Lord of Ruthven

her son

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  William Ruthven, 1st Earl of Gowrie, 4th Lord of Ruthven is your fifth great aunt's father's ex-partner's brother's wife's brother's wife's fifth great grandfather.
  You - susan lynne schwenger
  → Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
  your mother → James Edward Handy Jr.
  her father → James Edward Handy Sr.
  his father → Marion or "Merne" Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
  his mother → Alexander Ruthven
  her father → Margret or Margaret Thomson - Ruthven
  his mother → William Thomson
  her father → John Thomson
  his son → Elizabeth "Betty" (Burns) Thomson
  his wife → Robert Burns
  her father → Elizabeth 'Betsey' (Paton) Andrew
  his ex-partner → Robert William Patton, Sr.
  her brother → Anne Gordon Patton
  his wife → Col. Hugh Tennant Mercer, Jr.
  her brother → Louisa Mercer
  his wife → Lady Christina Griffin
  her mother → John Stuart, 6th Earl of Traquair
  her father → Mary Maxwell of Nithsdale
  his mother → Robert Maxwell, 4th Earl of Nithsdale
  her father → Elizabeth Maxwell
  his mother → Isabel Ruthven
  her mother → William Ruthven, 1st Earl of Gowrie, 4th Lord of Ruthven
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  so; far we prove this: John Ruthven, Weaver in Glasgow is your fifth great grandfather.
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  your mother → James Edward Handy Jr.
  her father → James Edward Handy Sr.
  his father → Marion or "Merne" Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
  his mother → Alexander Ruthven
  her father → Robert Ruthven
  his father → John Ruthven, Weaver in Glasgow
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  Father of Lillian aka Lillias Ruthven - Turner; Cathrine Ruthven - Burney; John Ruthven 1st; Robert Ruthven; Margaret Ruthven; Mary Ruthven - Patterson; George Ruthven and John Ruthven 2nd https://www.geni.com/.../John.../6000000019148326667...
  
  
  
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  i see how this fits together - John Ruthven, secundus, grocer in Glasgow MP
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  Birth: before April 23, 1721
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  Death: before November 30, 1804
  Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland (United Kingdom)
  Place of Burial: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland (United Kingdom)
  Immediate Family:
  Son of Mr. John Ruthven, Music Master in Glasgow and Marion Peadie
  Husband of Mary Henderson
  Father of John Ruthven; Marion Ruthven; Jennifer Ruthven; Margaret Ruthven and James Ruthven
  Brother of John Ruthven, primus; Anne Ruthven; Barbara Ruthven; James Ruthven, Manufacturer in Glasgow and Alexander Ruthven https://www.geni.com/.../John.../6000000019148508371...
  
  
  
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  Birth: estimated between 1657 and 1717
  Death: before February 15, 1732
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  Immediate Family:
  Husband of Marion Peadie
  Father of John Ruthven, primus; Anne Ruthven; John Ruthven, secundus, grocer in Glasgow; Barbara Ruthven; James Ruthven, Manufacturer in Glasgow; and Alexander Ruthven