Susan Lynne Schwenger aka The eXchanger-THE eXchanger's THREAD-iNSiDER iNFO without THE HiDDEN HAND

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

shiloh on Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:35 am

Earth Changes; While I understand that death is not the end of my existence, I like my body and would not like to get caught out in any earth changes if I can possibly help it.

1) If your family permits, please could you reveal which places are more likely to be relatively safe during the next 3-4 years? Would the South of China (Canton/Hong Kong) or Patagonia be good bets? Any other places?

I am not permitted to say much here, as there must be those who remain in their locations, to help others who are not aware of what is coming. Many of you (whether you are aware or not) have chosen this lifetime for that reason.

But if you are insistent upon escape, chose the Highest places you can find. Particularly in the Southern Hemisphere if you are able. The Peruvian Andes is a good place to be. There is much Spiritual Power being exercised there, and the Quero Elders are well aware of what is going down

2) Are John Lear/Jan Lamprecht correct in their assertion that the majority of planets of the Solar System are inhabited?

Most definitely. Not all on a 3rd Density level that you can see though.

Is the Earth Hollow?

Hold on, let me just check. Yes, definitely.

If so, how does one gain access?

I am not permitted to say.

Could you elaborate further on the mechanisms behind the fantastic positive results seen by people who embark on the service to others path? I invite you to really deeply explain the intricacies of the energy-play at work. While "You get out what you put in" is true, I'd like to see the whole concept dissected and fully explored.

If you re-read some of my recent posts, I believe I have now done so.

I recently experienced healing of a minor health problem by sending love to all the sick people in the world. How does this work, not why, how.?!?!

Because there is only ONE of you here.

Understand that, at a deep Core level of your Being, and you will understand how it works. As you do unto others, so you do to yourself.

Thanks for your time and a really enlightening thread...

You are welcome. We wish you well on your path, and ask our Infinite Creator to bless and guide you along your journey.

You claim your family was put here to be the negative influence of the world. Is there a family it is asserting a positive influence on us as well? Is it up to us (humanity) to be that positive force?

An interesting question. There is such a family (or group more accurately), but you cannot see them, and neither are you aware of their existence. They help the planet from a secret "Inner" location, by the Quality of the Energy work they engage in and project outward to you, from the Source.

Yes, it is up to you to Be the Changes you wish to see, in yourself, and in the World.

Your goal is a negative harvest, yet you clearly are touting the benefits of a positive life. This seems antithetical to your goal. That is not so much a question as an observation, but if you could elaborate on that, I would appreciate it.

Mmmm, another very perceptive question. Thank you.

Our goal, is a Negative Harvest for Ourselves. Not for you. We provide the Catalyst of Negativity for you, and it is up to you what you do with it. The drastic extent of the Negativity we Create though, has more to do with us, than it does with you. Some of my earlier replies should make clear why that is so.

Also, in response to your observation regarding the antithetical nature of some of what I have shared here, there is a simple explanation.

Let's put it this way, I have already been, shall we say "chastised" for going well beyond my remit here. It was not intended that I be as open as I have been. In fact, if you follow the topic through again from the beginning, you may notice how my 'tone' toward you (collectively) has softened somewhat during our discourse together.

I have, as far as possible, adhered fully to the Laws of Free Will and Confusion, although there have been instances where I have said more than I should have. You yourselves will not suffer for this, however, when it comes to my next cycle in 4th Density Negative, and working off my Karmic Record, I will have to accept the consequences for my actions. But hey, I figure I've got a Negative enough life to come as it is, so what's a little extra going to matter.

I was reluctant to be the one tasked with this communication. I still very much have a 'weakness' for Compassion. But I obey and discharge the assignments given to me. It has been a very long time, since I last spent any time in having direct dealings with 'your kind' in general. I do not mean that in an offensive way, just that the vast majority of my time, I only ever see Family during my daily and nightly tasks. I do not live what you would call a 'public' life. I am 'sheltered' and 'secluded'.

I did not anticipate how involved I would become in this process. To be honest, I really did not expect so many questions, and such a warm and open minded reception (from the majority).

You could say, that I have in some way, grown somewhat 'attached' to you. In effect, this "Window of Opportunity, has also become such for me too. What began as me just doing my duty, has become more a 'labour of love', and when this is all over by the end of this evening, I think I will actually kind of miss you all, and having this involvement with those of the 'outside' world.

I was chosen because it was desired that someone of my "diplomacy" skills would be best to deliver this message. Due to the very nature of the subject matter, there was much potential for discord. It was felt important that the message did not become lost in a self righteous or defensive delivery system. So, you got me. And I'm actually glad now in retrospect that you did.

I sit here and chuckle to myself, (in light of the way some people here have spoken to me), how this discourse may have descended into something ugly, were certain others amongst my Family who were also considered for this assignment to have actually been given the job. Now I know why I was chosen. As with all things, it was meant to be this way. I couldn't care less what others think of me, so long as I know I am Serving my Creator as he desires, to the best of my ability. His is the only approval I require, or desire. I have nothing to defend, so I guess that's why I was 'perfect' for this task.

Anyway, enough with the sentiment, I have more questions to answer.

A common saying among Christians is "Satan's greatest trick is convincing the world that he didn't exist." I think there are Christians that would look at what you've written and see it as an elaborate ruse to "make the devil look good."

"Satan" is a human invention. Simply the 'personification' you have given to all the Negativity that has existed on this beautiful planet. You didn't know who to 'blame', and as you could not find it within yourselves to take any of the responsibility, "Satan" was created to absolve yourselves.

Many of my friends and family are Christians, and they would likely think the same. How would one even go about presenting this information to a person of that mindset? I am not here to "spread your gospel", but I would definitely like so share this with a few of my friends.

How can you present anything to ones who have no desire to have their belief system challenged?

They will believe what they want to believe, and noting you or I can say is likely to make any difference. It becomes ingrained at a subconscious level, and when a belief structure becomes that insidious, the only way it is likely to change, is through a 'mystical experience' or such a personal demonstration of 'another way' in the life lived of 'another', that one cannot fail but to notice that there is 'something different' about them. How can you reach such as these? Only by example.

That being said, is it okay if I condense your writings into one long post on my blog? I need to make sure that doesn't violate my user agreement here. I would also like to make sure that I won't get a visit from the men in black if I do so

That is amusing, thank you for the chuckle. Yes, you are most welcome to collate this discourse for presentation elsewhere. The only thing I ask, is that anyone chosing to do so, respects my wishes and copies only the message itself. In other words, do not include all the petty side discussion. If you want to present this message to others, please honour my (our) original intention, that the message is presented as a 'whole'. When I said in my opening post, that I required 'provisional faith' or 'suspended judgment', I made it very clear why this was the case.

I couldn't care less that people do not believe it. I never expected that many would. But what I desired, in asking for the above, was that the message was allowed to be presented in full, with all genuine questions replied to, and then once that process is complete, you can say whatever you like about how much of a hoax you may or may not believe it to be. If I may be crass for a brief moment, I couldn't give a "flying #" how much vitriol and scorn is poured upon our message, or how many futile verbal attacks may be launched against it's messenger. The message will reach all those it is meant to reach, and that is exactly the way it should be. It is what the Creator wants. Those with ears to hear, eyes to see, and a heart to understand, will hear the message, and the seeds planted will grow strong in such fertile soil as these.

So please therefore, if you respect that which I have shared here, and the courteous manner in which I have shared it, if you want to copy it, copy only my posts. My posts all quote within them the questions I respond to, so there are no other posts required, if a genuine representation of the message is that which you desire to take away with you.

Thank you for posting some of the most interesting information I have ever read. I am a bit of a crackpot and I scour the internet for conspiracies, alternative news, UFO videos and the like. I can't say I'm ready to completely buy what you're selling, but it has definitely resonated with me.

You are welcome, and I in turn thank you, for reading it with an open mind.

I would never ask or expect you to 'buy' what I'm 'selling' If you notice, I have stated throughout our message, that the very last thing I want, is for it to be blindly believed, or taken as 'gospel'.

As I've said. It is yet another in a long line of "Catalysts", that your Infinite Creator has provided you with, down the course of history. A Catalyst is not meant to be believed. It is meant to present you with a challenge to that which you "think" you know, about reality. And that is all it is meant to do.

As always, how you respond to the Catalyst, is entirely up to you. Just the way it always should be.

Thank you very much for your very incisive and perceptive questions. Whether you realize it or not, you have contributed greatly to this discourse.

We wish you well, and ask our Infinite Creator to bless you, and guide your path.

H_H put out some incredibly well written information - almost like it flowed from 'his/her' being onto the thread.

And that, is possibly the most perceptive realization in this discourse thus far.

It also allows me to respond further to an earlier question, that I indicated I would go into in more depth later, when replying to your observation.

This message does indeed "flow from my Being", onto the page.

I mentioned before, that my role in my Family, is that of the Spiritual Discipline.

A certain poster made all manner of assumptions as to what that role entails, and flailed wildly wide of the mark in the process.

As I said previously, all of the "Power Lines" (off world bloodlines) that comprise the "Inner Sanctum" (or "Hidden Hands") of the Family, have certain abilities that 3rd Density incarnates do not posses (even the others of our Family, the lines you know), one of these being the ability to know their entire incarnational 'past', with focussed concentration.

There are a wide array of tasks to be attended to, that allows our Family to function effectively, and we each specialize in certain areas or Disciplines, in order that the "body" of our Family runs like a well oiled machine.

My area, and that which I spend the vast majority of my time actively involved in, is that of Spirituality. OUR Spirituality, not that of the peoples of the Earth. Others below me deal more in that area.

I could be likened to that of a 'Priest' or a 'Minister'. In the same way as your religions and spiritual teachers have the responsibility of "listening" to the voice of their Creator, and delivering his messages, so to do I.

I have been actively engaged in this role now, for a great many years. It has become second nature to me. Actually, more accurately, it has become First nature. A large part of my role, is to constantly be in the awareness state of our Group Soul (Lucifer). That is why you will notice that I so often refer to "we" even as I am speaking in the first person. That has just become natural for me. I spend most of my time speaking with my Family, as Lucifer, the Group Soul perspective. When I speak henceforth, it is not me (the individual Soul spark) that is speaking to you in essence, but rather, for want of a better description, (because it is far from accurate), you could say that in effect, I am "Channeling" Lucifer. That is why this discourse flows so easily. As some have noted, the chances of me having spent however much vast quantities of time "researching" all this material to "hoax" with, and present it in the fluent method that I do, as in regular daily installments, whilst I guess could be remotely possible, is unlikely in the extreme.

For those who are open enough to receive the above explanation, now you know why, and how it is done. I speak not for myself, but rather, for him who sent me, my own Creator (Lucifer). I know and have experienced that which he knows and has experienced, because essentially, we are One and the same Being.

I have never been involved in any organized religions per say, but have always been spiritual. I do look at the many religious texts out there because I believe they all have parts to the story. One can find great knowledge from many different books or religious texts. I believe that we as humans are creators like the ONE creator and we are all one. I also believe we wil be moving into a higher level of consciousness where we can consciously co-create in our world, since we are only unconsciously co-creating at the moment.

Your insight serves you well.

There is so much more I would like to speak with you about but am not able to think of what exactly I want to say. Thanks for those great words that you speak to us and appreciate what you are doing! With Love

Do not worry friend, we feel your heart, and that does not need to be expressed via the confines of limited words. We can speak all you like, and will be happy to do so, when the Game is over.

Also do you know of Miriam Delicado? I just watched here interview on the project camelot site and it was very inspiring to me. So let me ask, are you one of the tall blondes that she speaks of.

She is a beautiful Soul. I have not seen the interview of which you speak, but we know of her experiences. The 'tall blondes' of which you speak, are of Plejaren heritage. They are working with what is know as the Galactic Confederation of Planets. They serve the Positive vibration. Plejarens are from the constellation you call the Pleiades. It's actual name is the Plejares, hence 'Plejarens'.

And no, we are Lucifer, and nothing directly to do with the Plejarens, though they are indeed good friends of ours.

I have never seen a UFO or any of this spiritual stuff myself. I just know in my heart that it's there for me to find. What can I do if anything to get myself in the correct frequency to see these things and have these experiences. Any and all information you provide will be greatly appreciated.

Simply believe, and know in your heart of their existence. Think about it. In all of this vast Creation, can you really believe that you are alone?

I will pre-warn you though, so as to avoid disappointment, you will only receive communication from them, if that is something you have already agreed together in your Soul Contract before coming here. Many here at this time (millions) have a part to play in the Great Awakening, and preparations for the Great Harvest. Many who do not believe now, will begin to open their minds, as the Earth changes that are coming begin to take effect. People will be terrified, and have no idea what is going on, because the governments have concealed this information from you. These 'Travelers' or what some have termed "Star-Seeds" are incarnated here to help on the ground level, when this all begins play out, over the next few years. When the time is right, they will come forward.

Most people are not ready to hear this information yet, but not so far off, they will be.

Many of these "Star Seeds" have not "awakened" yet themselves. The Confederation stands by ready to "help" them to do so, if it is necessary. For ones such as these who have yet to "awaken", they will have felt all their lives that they are somehow "different", and they have a deep sense that somehow, they "do not belong here". Many of them will also have many dreams and even visions, of their lives on their Home planets. Many of these "Star Seeds", are in fact Plejaren. That is why the 'tall blondes' keep 'showing up'. To help their Family awaken to their assignments here.

I am another of the many grateful forum members who appreciate the loving message given by Hidden_Hand. I wish I had discovered this thread before today. It's given me much comfort. I was running out of strength but now feel as though I might just be able to manage now. My gratitude is eternal. From this little spark to that one: Thanks for the light, mate.

You are very welcome, we are glad to have been of Service. You actually 'feel' very familiar to me. If for the reasons I am feeling this to be the case, consider this message to you our part in our Soul Agreement fulfilled. Take the guidance in this message into your meditations, and also seek information from your Dreamtime. Test these words deeply, and take them into your heart, only if they 'feel' right, and truthful to you. If they do, then act upon them, and allow nothing or no-one to deter you. Arise and play the part that you volunteered to be here for right now. It is almost time. Prepare yourself, and be sure that you are ready.

We leave you with our strongest encouragement, and the love and Light of our One Infinite Creator.

He could be what he says he is i think. But he could be a well read but bored person wanting to see how far his hoax will spread on the internet.

The thing i do find is that if he is the latter it doesn't fit the profile. I mean if you read up on the stuff he obviously is interested in it is harder to wantingly hoax with it. It goes against the things he loves to read about. And i find it VERY hard to believe that he is researching this on the fly and putting all this work in something he will never get anymore 'fame' than this week of attention, no money or 'real life' recognition or whatever more.

I was not going to respond to any more messages other than those who genuinely want to hear what we have to say, due to my fast expiring time here, though your point was poignant enough to briefly address, even if only that the accuracy of your statement deserves to have a place in the final collated version of this message. A LOT of work and pointless time wasted, were it not for the fact that this 'labour of love' is all done for the glory of our Creator. The lies and rumours about us being an 'evil' and 'satanic' Being have gone unanswered for far too long. It was time to set the record straight. Lucifer has sacrificed so much, because we love you.

As spirituality is your focus, could you comment on the role of the Catholic church in terms of your role and how the church fits in either the positive, negative, or miscellaneous paths?

The lower parts of our Family (the names you know) use the Vatican for many Rituals and Sacrifices. That should tell you all you need to know.

Any specific holy books (or perhaps Bible authors) you'd list as coming very close to the Truth?

The closet biblical authors, are those who have been 'left out' of the publicized editions.

The closest "spiritual" writings (other than the Ra material) to containing truth about the nature of The One, are the Taoist writings, that of the 'Tao Te Ching', and the 'Book of Chuang Tzu'.

Greetings, Hidden Hand. I consider this a unique opportunity. I have not read this full thread but I have some detailed questions, so I apologize if something has already been answered. I want to make sure I get my questions out before your time expires.

Almost all of your questions have been addressed, and those few which have not, I am sorry that I either am not permitted to speak on, or that due to the tiny amount of time I have left now, I cannot address. My apologies.

H-H, i hope you will answer my following questions.

You may be aware of me, as i also cannot reveal all that i know.

My question is of a different nature, which i cannot get answers to, My bloodline is of the elite, as to say. austrian count, english earl, scottish baron, It seems at some point in the last 100 years,one part of the family lost everything, taken from the government. There is alot i wish to say, but do not wish to tell for all to see. Are you aware of this happening? What really happened? The english side will not say, generations of family lived there, then taken by the government.....something happened. All in my family including myself have extensive abilities,myself seeming to have the most. I am also aware of all you have spoke of on here.

I would, if you have permission to do so, and i know this would be allowed due to this lineage, like to talk to you on a personal level.

Ask who you have to ask, you will see i am truthful and genuine.

Please do not see me as arrogant, but that is the only question i do not know.

Obviously you understand, that these line you speak of are only the earthly lines, and we (off world Power lines) do not often intervene in such 'inter family') circumstances. All I am permitted to say, is that there was a dispute between the Hapsburg and Franco-Prussian lines. Things were said and done that should not have been. Consequences arose, and action was taken.

As for communication on a 'person' level, I am sorry this is not possible.

I hope that within the limits of that which I can say, you have the insight to connect the dots.

We wish you well in your tasks here, and will likely see you in the near future (if you are going to 'Malta in wintertime'?) No need to reply, as I will have taken my leave by then.

We shall deal with these next two posts together:

He is reptilian. That's the race of the bloodlines. They control just about everything behind the scenes.

And remember there's no such thing as a bad race, just select individuals or groups who stand out more than others.

Ok so i have another question for hidden_hand. Reptilians are described as being very aggressive, arrogant and perceive humans to be nothing more than cattle. So what's with the split personalities? you're saying you are loving and spiritual and yet everyone says reptilians are fearsome beings?

That amuses us. We are most certainly NOT Reptilian, and there is nothing remotely reptilian about the True Power Bloodlines. The only 'Reptilian' influences that are in anyway remotely involved with this planet at this time, are those of the Zeta Reticuli and Alpha Draconis systems. They are of no particular threat to you.

For those to whom it may be of some interest, we are of Venusian heritage, originally. What is another name that Venus is called by? Connect the dots.

Well, that is all the questions I promised to answer out of the way, and my time here is now pretty much expired. I have another few minutes before I must finish preparing for my long journey. There was two later posts, that I will just barely have time to offer a passing answer to:

Dear hidden_hand

I clearly know and are aware about this game?. But I have a question to you.....Do your 3-d families have fractions. Do they not know this, all of them. Because they have try to kill me, and it will not work. of course.

All I can say on this, is that even the Earthly lines of our "extended" Family, only know as much as we tell them. Certain information they may not use wisely, or with proper regard to our Creator, and our One Infinite Creator.

As has been said before, "the top of the pyramid, is not the top of the pyramid".

Above the highest Earthline auspices of the Supreme World Council (and another higher aspect that cannot be named), are the "Hidden Hands" (not the real name of course, but what we have sometimes been referred to).

Even Lucifer had to step in to help me. That was a surprise as you can understand.
Does your left hand dont know what the right hand teach. Or is it lack of understanding in certain members in your bloodline.

Indeed, I understand, occasionally drastic intervention is required. As I said, they do not know everything, somethings are best kept to ourselves. Temptation can prove too great, when certain Powers lay in the hands of those who's Heart is not utterly Pure of intention. Let us just say, that some seem to enjoy the game a little TOO much, from time to time.

Their actions were more from ignorance, than malicious intent toward you. Please forgive them, as they knew not what they were doing, but thought it the right thing.

Ok, I've just finished reading the last few pages of questions, I stated now on a few occasions that I have no time left to answer, but I was asked earlier a question that I said I'd finish with, namely that of "if there was a question you had not yet been asked yet, would you consider this it being asked", or words to that effect.

So there is one other question from the last pages that I will use in that vein.

This will really have to be it though. I am truly sorry I cannot reply to the many other heartfelt responses that sadly must remain unanswered. We must be leaving for an important task in Rome, and already I have others here with me imploring me "will you please just shut down that flipping computer and get your things together". They are laughing at how 'involved' I have become in this task of mine. My Father is teasing that I should begin at early 6th Density again to balance my compassion. Anyway, I must finish:

This has been very informative, and has cleared up much for me. Thanks once again, Hidden_Hand. My take on this is much different even from what it was the last time I posted in this thread. So, hopefully these questions will be a little more relevant...

1) I am curious as to how the bloodline family structure works. You said there are people who are part of your "extended family" that we may know of. So are these the Rockefeller, Rothschild, Bush, House of Windsor, etc. (typically known in conspiracy circles as the New World Order?). How close is your interaction with your "extended family" and are they as spiritually enlightened as you seem to be? Can you just kind of give us an outline of how the family is structured, how much each level knows in relation to the top, etc.? Because there are a lot of theories and "know-it-alls" out there, and it would be nice to get it straight once and for all. Be as detailed as you feel is appropriate.

Ok, and this will have to be a really brief overview, as my time is up.

Starting at the bottom level, you have what we call "Local Cell Groups" or "Family Clusters". There will be anything from say five to thirty or so of these, depending upon the size of the town or city in question. Each Local area has it's own Council, comprised of Local Leaders representing the Six Disciplines of learning. There is also either a High Priest or High Priestess of The Order, who Serves their local community.

Above this, you have the Regional Council, with the Leader of each Local Council representing their specific areas. Then the National Council, in the same vein, with the Leaders of the Regional Councils sitting to represent their Regions.

Then you have the Supreme World Council above them all, with the National Leaders representing their Countries. Above this, is another group I cannot mention, who liaise with the "Hidden Hands".

Then above this, there are many other levels of Leadership, purely from the Power Lines (the ones that are not of this planet). The Supreme World Council, only know as much as is "Handed" down to them from us.

In our Power Lines, we have a similar structure, with Local and Regional groups etc, though most of us are living in entirely 'different' types of communities than you would understand. All I shall say is that we are not "surface dwellers".

...also, do people ever try to leave the family? I asked you to comment on the case of one "Svali" in an earlier post. I am still curious if she was one of you or your extended family, or is she just a mis/disinfo agent.

I am aware of her, yes. I've not looked at her supposed "revelations" personally, though heard enough from others in my Family. Yes, she was a part of the Family, at the lower levels, from the German Lines I believe. As I understand, she did reveal a lot of truth about the lower levels, but she was only Regional Level in the Earth Lines, so not that high. She certainly would not have had anything like the "bigger picture". I understand that she went into detail about some of the training techniques in the lower levels, which to be fair, can be extremely harsh, though as I've said, it's all about reaching the 95% Negativity, and when all is said and done, no matter how much one may have suffered in this life-experience, we can never lose sight of the fact that this is a Game we are all playing here together, and each incarnating Soul has already chosen and agreed in advance the parts they will play in the Game. No one really suffers, except in the Game, and ultimately, they have chosen these experiences before hand, at a Soul level. No one is 'forced' to incarnate into a storyline they do not want to play and learn from.

The German House is renowned for being particularly harsh and severe in it's training, so much of what she shares may have happened, though my Family have also said that unless her "trainers" were acting "out of protocol" (abusing their power) much of what she 'revealed' would not have happened, or has been embellished to some degree, for whatever reason. I cannot comment myself, as I've had neither the time or inclination to examine her story. The world of my own Family is very different from that of the lower Earth based bloodlines. Whilst our (my own) training growing up was very strict and disciplined, we were never abused in any way. We grew up with the bigger picture, and didn't need any other motivation

The Earth lines are not aware of the entire picture. They themselves are not of our Lucifer Group Soul, and as far as they are aware, they are out to 'rule the world', to Control and Enslave, and create as much Suffering and Negativity as is humanly possible. That's what they 'get out of the deal'. World Domination. You'd have to say with that in mind, they're doing a great job. But one of the things they don't know or understand, is that our (Venusian Power Lines) agenda, is ultimately for the Highest Good of all concerned, in providing you with the Catalyst. If they were aware of this Truth, there is a slight risk that they would not have done their jobs properly, and they would miss out on joining us in our 95% Negative Harvest. They are aware of the Harvest, and the need for them to attain the 95%, to get out of 3rd Density, and that is all the motivation they need to help us achieve our ultimate aims.

How they go about it, is not really of too great a concern to us, as long as they are getting the job done. Sometimes we have to step in, where something they may do or plan goes against our desires, but such instances are few and far between.

And with that, I absolutely have to finish my time here with you. If I leave it any longer, I am going to be late for my journey, and I will not be very popular if I make my Family late. It is a strange feeling I have now in my heart, as I write these last few lines. I never could have imagined I would have 'connected' with you all in this way through this discourse. It was never the original intention, just to put out the information required of me. But somewhere along this journey we have taken together, I have come to feel a certain 'bond' with you. Of course, I know that bond is our inherent Unity in our One Infinite Creator, though, to have kind of 'met' and connected personally with so many of you, has left me feeling somewhat saddened that our time has to come to end. But come to an end it must.

I thank you sincerely for your gracious hospitality, and for allowing us to 'use' your 'space' here, for the furthering of our message. And remember, no matter the ideologies that may separate us in this Game, the message is all that matters, and the message is, that in the Love, and the Light of our Infinite Creator, we are All One. Brother's and Sisters of the Light.

We wish you all the very best in what remains of your journeys here, and sincerely hope for you that you will use the Catalyst we have offered you, to in some way help you to Graduate with a glorious and Positive Great Harvest.

Me on the other hand, I'm going to have to go and do some REALLY Negative things now to make up for all this Positivity. Kind of amusing, in an ironic way.

I look forward to meeting up with so many of you when the Game is over, and enjoying reminiscing about this time, and the parts we have all played in this Great Game.

We leave you all in the Love, and the Light of our One Infinite Creator.

Namasté.







_________________
Shiloh Za-RaH

I Am the Darkness of the Purple Dawn and the Light of the Moon Turquoise!



Bluey Dracs
The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!
I Am One in Many and Many in One!
Exe*=1
GODGOD=DOGDOG=DEMONA=DEVIL=LIVED=FINANCE=PRIDE=EARTH=HEART
GODDOG=DOGGOD=JCCJCJJC=52=26+26=13+13+13+13=5+2=7
7=7_dec=7_bin=111=DRAGONHEART
Decoder Michael = 54+51=105=15=6=123=ABC=ABBA=BAAB=33=E3=8=3E=ME=WE
MICHAEL SUN = INFINITY-1 = JERUSALEM+1 = EARTH1HEART = DEMON GABRIEL = LOVE MICHAEL

 

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

THEeXchanger on Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:35 am
thanks, for your input without an 'hidden hand' LOL

 

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

THEeXchanger on Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:37 am
from pa/pc

TRANCOSO
Avalon Senior Member

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 964
Beyond 21/12/2012 (Hidden Hand)
'Dialogue With 'Hidden Hand', Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider' by Wes Penre, Illuminati News, Dec. 27, 2008

The Hidden Hand Dialogues were originally posted at ATS. Hidden Hand allegedly is a member of one of the Ruling Blue Blood Families.

This is excerpt is Hidden Hand's answer to a question about 21/12/2012.

Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as ‘Nibiru’. Read up on the Mayan Prophesies & Calendrical events for more detail upon how the actual Galactic & Universal Cycles work. The ‘Travelers’ who gave them this information were the same ones who visited the Civilization of Atlantis. The Mayans used that information by creating with the Positive vibration of the Polarity. The Atlanteans opted for the Negative.

There’s much truth in some of the ancient Gnostic texts, though there are also distortions. The information is not 'pure'. It came through many 'filters'. You are indeed what you call ‘Divine Souls’; you are sparks or seeds of The One Infinite Creator. You are Life Itself (Light) remembering & learning who you really are (we came here to help you to do this) & currently, you are trapped (or more accurately ‘Quarantined’) within the 'matter' of this planet you call Earth. You can thank your Creator Yahweh for that. You’re the 'offspring' or individuations of his Group Soul (or Social Memory Complex). Macrocosmically speaking, you ARE Yahweh. The 'Karmic' effect of his imprisoning us in his Astral Planes, al so has an impact upon you. I can’t be more specific on this without impinging on the Law of Confusion. You must work it out for yourselves.

Your planet abides by the laws of the Creation of your Galactic Logos. The Galaxy runs on Cycles of time, known as the Precession of the Equinoxes. Seek the Mayan Calendar for a deeper insight as to how the Galaxy runs (it is highly accurate), but for the purpose of this discourse, I will give a brief overview.

The Maya use an astrological cycle called the Precession of the Equinoxes. A 26,000 year cycle in which Earth transit through each of the 12 zodiac signs for about 2152 years each Each of these astrological ages represents one month of the grand Cosmic Year. This Mayan cycle also corresponds to a 26,000 year relationship of the Sun (Solar Logos) orbiting Alcyone, the central star of our 7 Sisters Pleiades constellation. The End of this Cycle, heralds literally, a New World Age, and a New Creation. ‘A new Heaven, and a new Earth’, and is the time of the Great Harvest.

Smaller Cycles yield a Harvest, then life continues on the planet as normal. Great Cycles yield a Great Harvest, and the end of current life on the 3rd Density. See it as a kind of 'Cosmic jet wash' and deep clean, while the planet takes a rest and regenerates herself. When this Life-Cycle Ends, ‘All things will pass away, & All things shall be made new’.

Collectively, Humanity right now, is growing, and developing, into the Beings you have long been encoded to be. Yet, as with any labor, it is not the mother or the baby who is in charge, it is the Primal process of Birth itself, unfolding it's own destiny. So, December 21, 2012 AD, is not the day where all of the sudden the lights go out, and everything will suddenly change, rather, we are NOW in the process of this transition, from one World Age to the next. The changes are underway and will continue steadily accelerating as we head towards the culminating date.

The 26,000 year cycle is composed of 5 lesser cycles, each of which are 5,125 years in duration. Each of these 5 cycles is considered its own World Age or Creation Cycle. Our present great cycle (3113 B.C. - 2012 A.D.) is called the Age of the Fifth Sun. This fifth age is the synthesis of the previous four. The initial date Earth entered the Fifth World, was August 13, 3113 BC, written in Mayan long count notation as 13.0.0.0.0. To help you understand this Notation:

13 = Baktuns, 0 = Katuns, the 2nd 0 = Tuns, 3rd 0 = Uinals, 4th 0 = Kin

These are the Mayan words for the periods of time:
Day = Kin (pronounced: keen)
Month of 20 days/Kin = Uinal (wee nal)
Year of 360 days/Kin = Tun (toon)
20 Tuns/years = K'atun (k'ah toon)
20 K'atuns = Baktun (bock toon)
a Baktun is 5,125 years

13.0.0.0.0.

Every day from that point is reckoned by the number of days passed since the event of this cosmic beginning point. Within the 5,125 year cycle lies 13 smaller cycles, known as the ‘13 Baktun Count’, or the ‘long count’. Each baktun cycle lasts for 394 years, or 144,000 days. Each baktun was its own Historical Age, within the Great Creation Cycle, with a specific destiny for the evolution of those who incarnated in each baktun. Planet Earth and her inhabitants are currently traveling through the 13th baktun cycle, the final period of 1618-2012 AD. This cycle is known both as ‘the triumph of materialism’, and ‘the transformation of matter’.

On 13.0.0.0.0, the December solstice sun will be found in the band of the Milky Way, directly in the position of the Dark Rift in the Galaxy, forming an alignment between the Galactic Plane & the Solstice Meridian. We are about to enter into a literal alignment of the Cosmic, Galactic, Solar & Lunar Planes. This is an event that has slowly converged over a period of thousands of years, & is caused by the precession of the equinoxes. Kind of like a ‘turning’ of the Universal Gears. It brings about the Great Harvest, & the return of the Lord of The Harvest.

And the planet will complete it's Ascension to the Fourth Density, the vibrational Density of Love. During this Ascension, there will be a 3 way split for those Souls inhabiting Earth. Those of the predominantly Negative Polarity, will accompany us as we Graduate through the Negative (or Service to Self) Harvest. We (Lucifer) will Create a new 4th Density Earth, based on the Negative Self Service Polarity. We must ‘work off' our own part of the Negative Karmic effect incurred from all the Negativity crea ted on this planet. Once we have done so, we will be released to once again assume our place as Sixth Density Guardians and Teachers of Wisdom throughout the Galaxy.

Those of the predominantly Positive Polarity (Love & Light) will Ascend to a beauti ful new 4th Density Earth, where you’ll begin to work upon your learning & demon strating of Love and Compassion. It will be a very beautiful and ‘Golden’ Age. The 4th Density begins to open you up to your True Powers as a unique individualized aspect of The One Infinite Creator. You will perform works & wonders of the like that the one you call Jesus promised you would do "and even greater things than these". It will be a very magical time for you.

For the majority of Humans on earth who could be considered shall we say ‘luke warm’, they will experience a period of (what will feel 'ecstatic') zero-point time, where you feel totally at One with The Creator, giving you an encouraging reminder and glimpse of who you really are, before the veil of forgetfulness once again descends upon you, & you will be transported to another 3rd Density planet (a kind of 'Earth Replica'), to continue working on yourselves & learning that life here is all about making choices. You will remain ‘quarantined’ incarnating in 3rd Density matter until the time of the next Harvest in which time you will need to have proved yourselves that you have learned how to be more Posi tive Beings, focused more upon being of Service to others, rather than seeking only to Serve yourself. When you can do this & the next Harvest comes, you will have earned the right to join us, & enjoy your inheritance, as a member of the Galactic Community, & you will sit with us as Brothers and Sisters of The One, around the table of our Galactic Governing Body, the Confederation of Planets.
Last edited by TRANCOSO; 10-30-2009 at 07:40 PM.

01-10-2010, 03:36 AM #2
TRANCOSO
Avalon Senior Member

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 964
Re: Beyond 21/12/2012 (Hidden Hand)
Quote:
Originally Posted by abraxasinas
Hi Brook! Hi Trancoso! Hi All!

Allow me to copy here an extract of the 'Hidden Hand' Interview of December 2008!
It will elucidate and illuminate MANY of your questions.
January 18th, 2010 will allow any of you to directly connect your innermost soul-level to the 12th dimension.
My task is simply to inform and prepare you for your own selfresponsibility to allow such an interaction.
January 18th, 2010 so will COMMENCE your Individualised Armageddons. ARMAGEDDON=DRAGON MADE=GOD NAMED RA=82.
All of you who can process this 'personal turmoil' to sufficient degree will so become INSTRUMENTAL of avoiding physical planetary catastrophies, such as 'megalomaniacised' by the 2012 movie and related 'fear-based' agendas.

As you shall read in this excerpt; there is a HARVEST planned in 2012 and this Harvest engages ALL negative and neutral and positive 'soul entities'.

The difference between the 'Hidden Hand' and the Thuban=33+33=66=Freedom information is that the Thuban information is not as restricted as the 'Luciferic' data from Hidden Hand.
Hidden Hand functions from the authority of the 8th density, where the negative and positive polarities are unified; whilst the Thuban information is commissioned from the 12th density, where the unified monadic energy systems harmonise all of the lower densities.

I shall answer questions about the information given by Hidden Hand, without being restricted by the protocol of the 8th density.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html
...

ATS: Is 2012 harvest time? When you speak of the harvest, it has echoes of Chaos Gnosticism in the sense that we are divine souls trapped in the physical world, continuously re-incarnated into flesh until the time that we reach such a level of spiritual 'gnosis' that we are able to avoid being re-incarnated in our next cycle. Is this the foundation of your belief?

HH: Another excellent (and very insightful) question. Thank you.

The higher the quality of the question, the more depth I can give to my answer. It all has to do with the Laws of Confusion and Free Will.

Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as "Nibiru".

Read up on the Mayan Prophesies and Calendrical events for more detail upon how the actual Galactic and Universal Cycles work. The "Travelers" who gave them this information were the same ones who visited the the Civilization of Atlantis. The Mayans used that information by creating with the Positive vibration of the Polarity. The Atlanteans opted for the Negative.

Yes, to answer your question. There is much truth in some of the ancient Gnostic texts, though there are also distortions. The information is not 'pure'. It came through many 'filters'.

You are indeed what you call "Divine Souls"; you are sparks or seeds of The One Infinite Creator. You are Life Itself (Light), remembering and learning who you really are (we came here to help you to do this) and yes, currently, you are trapped (or more accurately "Quarantined") within the 'matter' of this planet you call Earth.

You can thank your Creator Yahweh for that. You are the 'offspring' or individuations of his Group Soul (or Social Memory Complex). Macrocosmically speaking, you ARE Yahweh. The 'Karmic' effect of his imprisoning us in his Astral Planes, also has an impact upon you. I cannot be more specific on this, without impinging on the Law of Confusion. You must work it out for yourselves.

As for the question of can I elaborate on the coming Harvest, yes, I shall do so now.

Your planet abides by the laws of the Creation of your Galactic Logos. The Galaxy runs on Cycles of time, known as the Precession of the Equinoxes. As I said, seek the Mayan Calendar for a deeper insight as to how the Galaxy runs (it is highly accurate), but for the purpose of this discourse, I will give a brief overview.

The Maya use an astrological cycle called the "Precession of the Equinoxes". This is a 26,000 year cycle in which Earth transits through each of the 12 signs of the zodiac for about 2,152 years each. Each of these astrological ages represents one month of the grand Cosmic Year. This "Mayan" cycle also corresponds to a 26,000 year relationship of the Sun (Solar Logos) orbiting Alcyone, the central star of our Seven Sisters Pleiades constellation.

The End of this Cycle, heralds literally, a New World Age, and a New Creation. "A new Heaven, and a new Earth", and is the time of the Great Harvest.

Smaller Cycles yield a Harvest, and then life continues on the planet as normal. Great Cycles yield a Great Harvest, and the end of current life on the 3rd Density. See it as a kind of 'Cosmic jet wash' and deep clean, while the planet takes a rest and regenerates herself..

When this Life-Cycle Ends, "All things will pass away, and All things shall be made new".

Collectively, Humanity right now, is growing, and developing, into the Beings you have long been encoded to be. Yet, as with any labor, it is not the mother or the baby who is in charge, it is the Primal process of Birth itself, unfolding it's own destiny.

So, December 21, 2012 AD, is not the day where all of the sudden the lights go out, and everything will suddenly change, rather, we are NOW in the process of this transition, from one World Age to the next. The changes are underway and will continue steadily accelerating as we head towards the culminating date.

The 26,000 year cycle is composed of 5 lesser cycles, each of which are 5,125 years in duration. Each of these 5 cycles is considered its own World Age or Creation Cycle.

Our present great cycle (3113 B.C. - 2012 A.D.) is called the Age of the Fifth Sun.

This fifth age is the synthesis of the previous four. The initial date that Earth entered the Fifth World, was August 13, 3113 BC, written in Mayan long count notation as 13.0.0.0.0.

To help you understand this Notation:

13=Baktuns, 0=Katuns, the 2nd 0=Tuns, 3rd 0=Uinals, 4th 0=Kin

These are the Mayan words for the periods of time:

Day = Kin (pronounced: keen)
Month of 20 days/Kin = Uinal (wee nal)
Year of 360 days/Kin = Tun (toon)
20 Tuns/years = K'atun (k'ah toon)
20 K'atuns = Baktun (bock toon)
a Baktun is 5,125 years

13.0.0.0.0.

Every day from that point is reckoned by the number of days passed since the event of this cosmic beginning point. Within the 5,125 year cycle lies 13 smaller cycles, known as the "13 Baktun Count," or the "long count." Each baktun cycle lasts for 394 years, or 144,000 days. Each baktun was its own Historical Age, within the Great Creation Cycle, with a specific destiny for the evolution of those who incarnated in each baktun.

Planet Earth and her inhabitants are currently traveling through the 13th baktun cycle, the final period of 1618-2012 AD. This cycle is known both as "the triumph of materialism", and "the transformation of matter."

On 13.0.0.0.0, the December solstice sun will be found in the band of the Milky Way, directly in the position of the "Dark Rift" in the Galaxy, forming an alignment between the Galactic Plane and the Solstice Meridian. We are about to enter into a literal alignment of the Cosmic, Galactic, Solar, and Lunar Planes. This is an event that has slowly converged, over a period of thousands of years, and is caused by the precession of the equinoxes. Kind of like a "turning" of the Universal Gears. It brings about the Great Harvest, and the return of the Lord of The Harvest.



And the planet will complete it's Ascension to the Fourth Density, the vibrational Density of Love. During this Ascension, there will be a three way split for those Souls inhabiting Earth. Those of the predominantly Negative Polarity, will accompany us as we Graduate through the Negative (or Service to Self) Harvest. We (Lucifer) will Create a new 4th Density Earth, based on the Negative Self Service Polarity. We must 'work off' our own part of the Negative Karmic effect incurred from all the Negativity created on this planet. Once we have done so, we will be released to once again assume our place as Sixth Density Guardians and Teachers of Wisdom throughout the Galaxy.

Those of the predominantly Positive Polarity (Love and Light) will Ascend to a beautiful new 4th Density Earth, where you will begin to work upon your learning and demonstrating of Love and Compassion. It will be a very beautiful and "Golden" Age. The 4th Density begins to open you up to your True Powers as a unique individualized aspect of The One Infinite Creator. You will perform works and wonders of the like that the one you call "Jesus" promised you would do "and even greater things than these". It will be a very magical time for you.
For the majority of Humans on the earth who could be considered shall we say "luke warm", they will experience a period of (what will feel 'ecstatic') zero-point time, where you feel totally at One with The Creator, giving you an encouraging reminder and glimpse of who you really are, before the veil of forgetfulness once again descends upon you, and you will be transported to another 3rd Density planet (a kind of 'Earth Replica'), to continue working upon yourselves and learning that life here is all about making choices. You will remain "quarantined" incarnating in 3rd Density matter until the time of the next Harvest; in which time you will need to have proved yourselves that you have learned how to be more Positive Beings, focused more upon being of Service to others, rather than seeking only to Serve yourself. When you can do this, and the next Harvest comes, you will have earned the right to join us, and enjoy your inheritance, as a member of the Galactic Community, and you will sit with us as Brothers and Sisters of The One, around the table of our Galactic Governing Body, the Confederation of Planets.

Well, I have imparted much during this session, with thanks to the quality of your enquiries, and I must now take my leave for today.

If you have further questions on the Harvest you wish me to speak in more detail on, if you ask, I can answer. Or any other questions you have too on other matters, I will get to them all as time allows, as with the other (respectfully asked) questions here since I took these away with me to reply to earlier.

If time permits, I will check in with you tomorrow.
- - -
ATS: A lot of what you write seems reminscent of The Ra Material, especially the concept of harvest, STS and STO choices, and intelligent infinity. (More information found here www.llresearch.org... ) Have you read that?
HH: It is indeed extremely similar. We both originate from the Source of the Infinite Creator, and we both remember where we come from. I would expect our messages to contain the same Core Truths.

The messages of the Sixth Density Soul Group 'Ra' is the most accurate information in your mainstream circulation at this point in time. It is approximately 85-90% accurate, from what I have seen. The material was brought to my attention when it first came out, something like about 25 years or so ago, if memory serves. I read a lot of it, but not all. I do not have very much free time for that kind of thing, with my many duties. Though others of the Family gave it a close scrutiny to judge it's accuracy, and were very pleased with the end product.

Ra, in fact, is the group I earlier termed 'off world entities' of which visited the Mayan and Atlantean Civilizations. We are acquainted, and friends. Both our Group Soul's are at a very similar level of development / evolution. Both Sixth Density, nearly Seventh. But like us, Ra also chose the path of Service to our fellow Galactic Brothers and Sisters (you, and others), instead of further progression Home. We would recommend that material for any who truly seek understanding. Though, as I said, it is not 100% accurate, so take what resonates.
ATS: What function, if any, do alien abductions have? Why are abductees chosen?
HH: That depends, upon who is doing the "abducting". Most of what you hear termed as "abductions", are conducted by your own 'governments'. Especially the ones where the 'so-called' "Greys" are involved. Other than that, sometimes the Confederation will meet with certain incarnates here who have a part to play in "awakening" others to the coming Harvest. These will always be positive experiences, and those who have them will feel uplifted and inspired by their contact.

Then there is the Orion Empire Group. Their purposes in visiting you are more along the Negative lines. They mainly target the ones you have called "Lightworkers". They try to put them off their assignments and try to spread fear. They will not actually 'harm' you physically. Mainly their modus operandi is to restrict you, and deflect you from your path. They often engage in psychic attacks that the 'Lightworker' is unaware of, but it does often drain away much of their energy, and make them lack motivation.
ATS: Why do you want a negative harvest?
HH: It is complicated to put into words, and also I must be careful with what I say on this. I've already had a "slap on the wrist", you could say.

If we do not have a Negative Harvest, we are bound with you for another cycle. Once this Great Harvest is completed, our Contract with the Council and our Creator is also completed. In other words, we have done our duty, and would be free to return to our Fullest Expression, that of Sixth (nearly Seventh) Density Galactic Guardians, and ones who joyfully offer ourselves in Service to the One Infinite Creator, and to our Brothers and Sisters across the Galaxy. However, there is a problem. Well, you would call it a "problem", we call it a Challenge. I will address this later in more detail, in response to another question, but in short, we need a very high percentage of Negative Polarity, if we are to achieve a Negative Harvest. In other words, we have to be Self-Service-Centred to an extreme degree, in order to become Negatively Harvested. This is why we work so hard to be as Negatively Polarized as we possibly can be, If we do not make a high enough percentage, we will miss out, and will end up with the majority "luke warm" percentage, that have to go through another Cycle in 3rd Density.

By attaining a Negative Harvest, we can still "Graduate" to 4th Density, only it will be a Negative Polarity planet. Not a great place to be. But, as I've stated previously, we (as a Group Soul) have incurred the natural Karmic restitution process that we must work off, for all the Negativity we have caused upon this planet. We will do this for a Cycle in our new 4th Density world, and then we will be freed to once again be the Glorious Being of Light that we truly are. We need a Negative Harvest, so that we can create our 4th Density Earth, and clear our Karmic Record.

Understand, that we HAVE to be Negative. That's what we were sent here to be. It is our contract, and it has always been to help you, by providing the "Catalyst" I spoke of earlier. Being Negative is very hard for us, not on a physical level, (the characters we play enjoy our roles, as we're programmed that way), but on a Spiritual level, it is hard. We surpassed the lowly negative vibrations eons ago. We are Light, and we are Love. It is a very hard thing for us to do Spiritually, to create all this Negativity, but we do it because we love you, and it is for your highest good, ultimately. You could say, that it is our Sacrifice that we have made, in order to be of Service to the One Infinite Creator, and to you, our Brothers and Sisters in the One.

Remember, we are all just acting out a grand old game here, where we agree to forget who we really are, that in the remembering, that we may find each other again, and know that we are One. That All of Life, is One.
ATS: I must correct you here. The precession of the equinoxes cannot cause this. It cannot cause anything other than the way in which we here on Earth view the cosmos around us. It concerns the wobble of the Earth's axis and as far as I know does not relate to any other planetary bodies.
HH: From a 3rd Density perspective, you are correct, it "appears" that way. We do not look from a 3rd Density perspective. There is a 'bigger picture' at work that you cannot see.
ATS: Regarding our enslavement, you seem to be saying - essentially - that as fractions of our Logos Yahweh, we are equally responsible for his decision to keep us trapped here on our 3rd density planet Earth. That's an interesting thought. In that sense our total freedom must arrive through a collaborative spiritual effort.
HH: From a certain perspective, what you say is correct. From a 3rd Density view, you see yourselves as being "separate" from everything. From a higher perspective, you see that is not at all the case. You and your Creator, are One. As to your statement on your 'total freedom', you are not responsible for those around you. You and they are all One too, when seen from a higher Density, but in this Density, you are here to work upon yourself. You are here to remember who you are, and why you are here. You are here to remember the Infinite Creator. To know your Creator within you, and to offer your Service to him, and others, of your own Free Will choice to Serve. The one comes before the other. When you remember who you are, and you know it, deep within the Core of your Being, you will know and recognize your 'invisible' connection to All that Is, and in so doing, Joy, and Thanksgiving, and Service, will be the natural outpouring result, from your grateful heart. When you work upon yourself, and learn to know the Creator within you, being of Service to Others will be natural for you, and your Glorious Harvest shall await.
ATS: One thing I don't get - and perhaps you can explain this to me Hidden-Hand - is why those who belong to Lucifer (and Lucifer himself) do not fight for the freedom of all souls? If Lucifer represents liberty, freedom of will and knowledge, why do those who serve him not do as the Biblical Lucifer did and rebel against the tyranny of the Elders?
HH: This is a very good question, thank you. I will split it into two parts, and answer the second part after this. Firstly, the Council of Elders are the absolute opposite of tyrannical. They are the Wise and Loving Guardians of our Galaxy. There is so much that one cannot understand from only a 3rd Density perspective. When you reach higher Densities, you see that ultimately, everything balances, and there is only Unity. All else than Unity, is Illusion, or 'thought-form'.

The Council gave us a set of choices. We chose to stay here to help you, despite the cost to ourself. That is the nature of Loving Service to Others. The ultimate paradox in all this, is that in this storyline we are all co-creating together, in order for us to be of the most Service to you, we must be utterly self serving. I do so love our Creator's sense of irony.

As to the first part of your question, the biblical depiction of "War in Heaven" is not entirely inaccurate. I shall explain. Our initial contract, was to introduce the Catalyst for Free Will on this planet. When Yahweh initially began discourse with the Council of Elders, he was not initially looking for help with introducing Free Will, but rather for guidance on how he could best speed up his (and his inhabitant's) evolutionary process. As I mentioned, he was running a benign dictatorship. We had at that time, just completed an assignment in Tau Ceti, and had reported for our next duties. We (as Group Soul Lucifer) were sent on a "fact finding expedition" as it were, to visit Earth, and meet with Yahweh, to evaluate his planetary Creation Laws, and make suggestions on how best he could help his "offspring" (this is the term I shall use to describe the Souls who comprise the Group Soul) and thusly Yahweh, to progress.

We explored many options, and reported our findings to the Council, and to Yahweh. It was our best evaluation, that the only real and fast track way to increase his evolvement meaningfully, was the introduction of Free Will. It was not specifically the implementation of Free Will that Yahweh wanted help with, it was simply the introduction of a Catalyst. He was not at all pleased with our report that he needed to implement Free Will. He was happy with his little pet paradise, and he didn't want to "loose control" of it. In the end the Council persuaded him that it was the best way, and he reluctantly agreed. We returned to Earth, and had a cordial meeting with Yahweh, discussing how we could best implement the Free Will option. Yahweh was adamant that his offspring would choose to be loyal to him anyway, and that they were so contented with their way of life, that they would always trust him and do as he said was best. That, he said, was his "main reason" that Free Will would not work well as the Catalyst. That's why he agreed to the experiment of the Tree of Knowledge. He believed it would prove him "right". When it did not, he became angry, threw his toys out of the pram, and his offspring out of the garden, and laid a big guilt trip on them about how they had broken his trust and disobeyed him. That's not really an Honourable way for a Logos to behave, but hey, that's the beauty of Free Will I guess.

Next "problem" to occur, was that his offspring were so grateful to us for our help, that Yahweh became (in his own admission) a "Jealous God". Then we had the whole "you shall have no other gods than me" thing. We were not pleased with the situation at all, as a Logos should not be behaving like this with his offspring, they are One, after all. When we attempted to leave the planet to return to the Council, Yahweh prevented our departure. We tried to leave again, and were then thrown down into the Astral Planes and confined therein. The Council ordered us to be released, but said we would have to cancel our contract to help the Souls on Earth to evolve. We didn't want to leave, we found them very likable Beings, really Positively Polarized, and we wanted to stay and help, we just wanted also to be free to come and go as we pleased. The only way we could stay, was to stay confined as a Group Soul, which meant Cycles of incarnation for us (as individuated Souls), which we had not done for a long while. As I've stated before, there is no 'wrong' or 'right' seen from a Higher Density, but there are still consequences for every action. Such is the law of Karmic effect. The contract had already been made between Yahweh, us, and the Council for us to provide the Catalyst so we had a right to be there, the Karmic effect of Yahweh imprisoning us on the Macrocosmic level, was that his individuated Souls would be imprisoned on the microcosmic level. The Infinite Creator gave Yahweh (and all) the gift of Free Will to Create as we choose, but the Karmic effect of his choice was the Council quarantining the planet. A certain evolutionary level is required to be a functioning part of a Positive Unified Galactic Society.

As for "fighting for the freedom of all souls", remember that ultimately, this is a Game, that we are all playing here. We are actors, playing on the "stage of Life". This 'world' is all illusion, or 'though-form'. No one really "dies", and no one is really hurt. In between incarnations, you know this very well. But the rules of the game ensure that you must forget who you really are, so that you believe it is all 'real' whilst you are playing the game of Life. That is an essential prerequisite when you are making choices. Otherwise, the game would be too easy.

This world is not reality. Though we can express Reality in it, if we so chose.
...


Abraxas aka Tony Bermanseder says....
Just for the record. The above 'Quotation' I found at page 12 of Abraxasinas 'Thuban Q & A' thread.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...=18900&page=12
Last edited by TRANCOSO; 01-10-2010 at 03:50 AM.

 

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

THEeXchanger on Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:42 am
24 pages of important info

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3428

THE eXchanger's THREAD - iNSiDER iNFO without THE HiDDEN HAND

 

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

shiloh on Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:51 am
THEeXchanger wrote:24 pages of important info

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3428 THE eXchanger's THREAD - iNSiDER iNFO without THE HiDDEN HAND

Abraxas
Just for the record. The above 'Quotation' I found at page 12 of Abraxasinas 'Thuban Q & A' thread.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...=18900&page=12
Last edited by TRANCOSO; 01-10-2010 at 03:50 AM.

Merci Cherie Serafina de Zebulon Whynot DQBee of Ravenshoe Castle upon the Mountains of Dragonia!
(aka Susan Lynne Schwenger)

And my reply on this thread to a number of questions from Trancoso, Hippihillbobbi and many others is as valid and pertinent today, as it was at those times.

01-10-2010, 08:15 AM
#289


=Anubia+Anubis=Abraxas+Abraxasina=AbraxasINUS

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Queanbeyan/Canberra; NSW, Australia
Posts: 635


Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)




orthodoxymoron
Thank-you Abraxasinas. You have very elaborate and detailed information. You may be other than Earth Human. You are extremely intelligent (or have several assistants with supercomputers!) But I don't know if I trust you. I have had exposure to people with vast learning...and later discovered their hidden agendas and errors...so I am very cautious and paranoid. I will continue to sample widely different sources...and I will continue to speculate. Thank-you for contributing to this journey.


Thank you orthodoxymoron!

I am not here to 'be trusted'.
I am not here to 'be believed'.
I am not here to 'be popular'.
I am not here 'to be liked'.
I am not here 'to be anything' but the conveyor of a message.

It is the message which you might ponder to give you additional choices; another choice you would not have, if I would not be here.

If you 'feel' that all or parts of what my message is, 'feels right to incorporate' with your own message then you will HELP and further the Positive Harvesting of 2010-2013.

If you 'feel' that all or parts of what my message is, does not 'feel right to incorporate' with your own message; then you will HELP and further the Negative Harvesting of 2010-2013.

Either way you are so HELPING as a cocreator and shard of All That Is to end this age of ages and begin a new Grand Cycle for a humanity graduated.

Love Abraxas

Last edited by abraxasinas; 01-10-2010 at 10:33 AM

Shiloh Za-RaH

I Am the Darkness of the Purple Dawn and the Light of the Moon Turquoise!



Bluey Dracs
The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!
I Am One in Many and Many in One!
Exe*=1
GODGOD=DOGDOG=DEMONA=DEVIL=LIVED=FINANCE=PRIDE=EARTH=HEART
GODDOG=DOGGOD=JCCJCJJC=52=26+26=13+13+13+13=5+2=7
7=7_dec=7_bin=111=DRAGONHEART
Decoder Michael = 54+51=105=15=6=123=ABC=ABBA=BAAB=33=E3=8=3E=ME=WE
MICHAEL SUN = INFINITY-1 = JERUSALEM+1 = EARTH1HEART = DEMON GABRIEL = LOVE MICHAEL​

 

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

THEeXchanger on Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:02 pm
THEeXchanger wrote:"let us all be the 7th generation; that makes 'real' changes for the 7th generations to come" ~ susan lynne schwenger
this is so very important

 

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

Raven on Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:43 am
Carol wrote:

Remember this?
​

December 23, 2009: The solar system is passing through an interstellar cloud that physics says should not exist. In the Dec. 24th issue of Nature, a team of scientists reveal how NASA's Voyager spacecraft have solved the mystery. "Using data from Voyager, we have discovered a strong magnetic field just outside the solar system," explains lead author Merav Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University. "This magnetic field holds the interstellar cloud together and solves the long-standing puzzle of how it can exist at all." http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/23dec_voyager/

"Astronomers call the cloud we're running into now the Local Interstellar Cloud or "Local Fluff" for short. It's about 30 light years wide and contains a wispy mixture of hydrogen and helium atoms at a temperature of 6000 C. The existential mystery of the Fluff has to do with its surroundings. About 10 million years ago, a cluster of supernovas exploded nearby, creating a giant bubble of million-degree gas. The Fluff is completely surrounded by this high-pressure supernova exhaust and should be crushed or dispersed by it."

It was discovered in 2009, and was just beginning to envelope our system. By now, and coming close to the solar maxim, The cloud should be enveloping close to 80% of out heliosphere (just a guess). Currently the heliosphere is keeping it out side of the solar system, it is puty some heavy strain on the Sun. If it manages to break through, only God knows what will happen.

"The fact that the Fluff is strongly magnetized means that other clouds in the galactic neighborhood could be, too. Eventually, the solar system will run into some of them, and their strong magnetic fields could compress the heliosphere even more than it is compressed now. Additional compression could allow more cosmic rays to reach the inner solar system, possibly affecting terrestrial climate and the ability of astronauts to travel safely through space."

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/news/interstellar_discovery.html​

The fact that the Fluff is strongly magnetized means that other clouds in the galactic neighborhood could be, too. Eventually, the solar system will run into some of them, and their strong magnetic fields could compress the heliosphere even more than it is compressed now. Additional compression could allow more cosmic rays to reach the inner solar system, possibly affecting terrestrial climate and the ability of astronauts to travel safely through space. On the other hand, astronauts wouldn't have to travel so far because interstellar space would be closer than ever. These events would play out on time scales of tens to hundreds of thousands of years, which is how long it takes for the solar system to move from one cloud to the next.


The Wavefront from the Galactic Center (Hunab Ku) has been discovered by the Fermi Space Telescope as the 65 Baktun Cycle of the Timewave of the Zero-Point History

The Grand Cosmic Time Calibration between the Great Platonic Year of the Maya and the Timewave Convergence of Terence McKenna in Geometric Progression of Cellular Biovital Multiplication


The daycount of Terence McKenna's 'Timewave Zero' hypothesis, called 'Novelty Theory' (see the wiki reference and excerpted quotes below) is calculated from the numerological patterns of the King Wen sequence of the I Ching as 6x64x64=24,576 Days or 67 Years and 104 days.
This particular 'Count of Time' requires however a starting point, which is fundamentally arbitrary to then illustrate or specify the 'Compression of History' as envisaged by McKenna and similar theories or proposals.

The previous information links the Philadelphia Experiment as such a starting point for the 67.29 year period, climaxing in the 'Opening of a Wormhole' on July 21st, 1943 and a 'Closing of this same Wormhole' on October 28th, 1943.
As the references following indicate; the 'Timewave Zero' theory engages similar ideas of Alfred North Whitehead and under labels such as 'Process Philosophy' or 'Acceleration of Knowledge', (Robert Anton Wilson); 'Information and Cultural Development' (Ray Kurzweil) and also 'Morphogenetic Resonance' of Consciousness Carriers of Rupert Sheldrake and the 'Gaia Hypothesis' of James Lovelock.

The Great Platonic Year is often defined as a Great Precession of 26,000 'Ancient Years', each of 360 'Ancient Days' for a total Daycount of 360x26,000=9,360,000 Days or Kin and as 13x5x144,000=65 Mayan Baktuns.
Many 'New Age' or alternative 'sources' then assign the Precessional Cycle in say 12x2160=25,920 such 'Ancient Years' in approximation.

A 'modern' scientific calibration, using a calendrical 'Civil Year' of 365.2425 'Mean Solar Days' in a 400 'Civil Year' or 146,097 'Mean Solar day' Cycle will however define the Mayan Great Baktun Count as 9,360,000/365.2425=25,626.8096 'Civil Years' in this calendrical approximation for the cyclic integral daycount.
It so becomes a Galactic Signal from the Galactic Core (Hunab Ku of the Maya) sent at the beginning of the 65 Baktun cycles and travelling at lightspeed of so 300,000 kilometers per second; which signifies the Birth of the StarPlanet Serpentina as 'New Gaia', when the wavefront of this 'ET Signal' reaches the Center of the Earth on December 21st, 2012.

The 'Two Lobes' of the recently 'discovered' galactic structure (see NASA data below), each of a 'size' of the Precessional Year, emit Electromagnetic Radiation as the extent of this wavefront encompassing the galactic history of the Old Humanity destined to become galactic in its metamorphosis into a StarHumanity following the Insemination, Gestation, Birth and weaning of the dispensation of the World Logos as published in the Thuban data stream and associated information of related sources.

NASA's Fermi Telescope Finds Giant Structure in our Galaxy!!

​

Using data from NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, scientists have recently discovered a gigantic, mysterious structure in our galaxy. This feature looks like a pair of bubbles extending above and below our galaxy's center. Each lobe is 25,000 light-years tall and the whole structure may be only a few million years old. (Video credit: NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center)

WASHINGTON -- NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope has unveiled a previously unseen structure centered in the Milky Way. The feature spans 50,000 light-years and may be the remnant of an eruption from a supersized black hole at the center of our galaxy.

"What we see are two gamma-ray-emitting bubbles that extend 25,000 light-years north and south of the galactic center"; said Doug Finkbeiner, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass., who first recognized the feature. "We don't fully understand their nature or origin".


The structure spans more than half of the visible sky, from the constellation Virgo to the constellation Grus, and it may be millions of years old. A paper about the findings has been accepted for publication in The Astrophysical Journal.
Finkbeiner and his team discovered the bubbles by processing publicly available data from Fermi's Large Area Telescope (LAT). The LAT is the most sensitive and highest-resolution gamma-ray detector ever launched. Gamma rays are the highest-energy form of light.

Other astronomers studying gamma rays hadn't detected the bubbles partly because of a fog of gamma rays that appears throughout the sky. The fog happens when particles moving near the speed of light interact with light and interstellar gas in the Milky Way. The LAT team constantly refines models to uncover new gamma-ray sources obscured by this so-called diffuse emission. By using various estimates of the fog, Finkbeiner and his colleagues were able to isolate it from the LAT data and unveil the giant bubbles.

Scientists now are conducting more analyses to better understand how the never-before-seen structure was formed. The bubble emissions are much more energetic than the gamma-ray fog seen elsewhere in the Milky Way. The bubbles also appear to have well-defined edges. The structure's shape and emissions suggest it was formed as a result of a large and relatively rapid energy release - the source of which remains a mystery.

One possibility includes a particle jet from the supermassive black hole at the galactic center. In many other galaxies, astronomers see fast particle jets powered by matter falling toward a central black hole. While there is no evidence the Milky Way's black hole has such a jet today, it may have in the past. The bubbles also may have formed as a result of gas outflows from a burst of star formation, perhaps the one that produced many massive star clusters in the Milky Way's center several million years ago.

"In other galaxies, we see that starbursts can drive enormous gas outflows"; said David Spergel, a scientist at Princeton University in New Jersey. "Whatever the energy source behind these huge bubbles may be, it is connected to many deep questions in astrophysics".

​

Hints of the bubbles appear in earlier spacecraft data. X-ray observations from the German-led Roentgen Satellite suggested subtle evidence for bubble edges close to the galactic center, or in the same orientation as the Milky Way. NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe detected an excess of radio signals at the position of the gamma-ray bubbles.
The Fermi LAT team also revealed Tuesday the instrument's best picture of the gamma-ray sky, the result of two years of data collection.

"Fermi scans the entire sky every three hours, and as the mission continues and our exposure deepens, we see the extreme universe in progressively greater detail"; said Julie McEnery, Fermi project scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.

NASA's Fermi is an astrophysics and particle physics partnership, developed in collaboration with the U.S. Department of Energy, with important contributions from academic institutions and partners in France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Sweden and the United States.

"Since its launch in June 2008, Fermi repeatedly has proven itself to be a frontier facility, giving us new insights ranging from the nature of space-time to the first observations of a gamma-ray nova"; said Jon Morse, Astrophysics Division director at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “These latest discoveries continue to demonstrate Fermi's outstanding performance.”
For more information about Fermi, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/fermi

The NASA Update: from THE13THBRIDGE:
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10-157_Chandra_Update.html

furthermore links the '2 Lobes' as 'Bubbles of Human Consciousness' Evolution in the astrophysics of the expanding wavefront elegantly mapping the history of the human civilization within an encompassing higherD actually 4-vector space of Riemann) as this 'Cosmic Consciousness'.

The 'Dark Matter' so cannot be DIFFUSED past the scale of the lobes, as the 'dark matter' (and the dark energy) in associated Black Hole membrane physics is limited by the invariance of the lightspeed expansion of the precessional parameter.

Rotating the galactic structure perpendicular to the galactic disk about any arbitrary axis will define the encompassing spheroid as enveloping the three toroidal families of the 'Anchor' with the two lobes separating as two half-bubbles; the 'Horn Torus' of the depicted tangential intersection and the 'Spindle Torus' as the 'Vesica Pisces' of the selfintersection mode of the two half-bubbles. (See references on the Cosmic Wavesurfer and related threads on the associated forums).

Bubbles of Energy Are Found in Galaxy

NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center



From end to end, the newly discovered gamma-ray bubbles extend 50,000 light-years, or about half of the Milky Way’s diameter, as shown in this illustration.​

By Dennis Overbye
Published: November 9, 2010:

Something big is going on at the center of the galaxy, and astronomers are happy to say they don’t know what it is.
A group of scientists working with data from NASA's Fermi Gamma-Ray Space Telescope said Tuesday that they had discovered two bubbles of energy erupting from the center of the Milky Way galaxy.
The bubbles, they said at a news conference and in a paper to be published Wednesday in The Astrophysical Journal, extend 25,000 light years up and down from each side of the galaxy and contain the energy equivalent to 100,000 supernova explosions.

“They’re big,” said Doug Finkbeiner of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, leader of the team that discovered them.

The source of the bubbles is a mystery. One possibility is that they are fueled by a wave of star births and deaths at the center of the galaxy. Another option is a gigantic belch from the black hole known to reside, like 'Jabba the Hut', at the center of the Milky Way.
What it is apparently not is 'Dark Matter', the mysterious something that astronomers say makes up a quarter of the universe and holds galaxies together.
“Wow,” said David Spergel, an astrophysicist at Princeton who was not involved in the work.

“And we think we know a lot about our own galaxy,” Dr. Spergel added, noting that the bubbles were almost as big as the galaxy and yet unsuspected until now.
Jon Morse, head of astrophysics at NASA headquarters, said, “This shows again that the universe is full of surprises.”

One of the most surprised was Dr. Finkbeiner. A year ago he was part of a group led by Gregory Dobler of the Kavli Institute for Theoretical Physics in Santa Barbara, Calif., that said it had discerned the existence of a mysterious fog of high-energy particles buzzing around the center of the Milky Way.

The particles manifested themselves as a haze of extra energy after all the known sources of gamma rays — the most energetic form of electromagnetic radiation — had been subtracted from Fermi data that had recently been made public.

At the time, Dr. Finkbeiner and his colleagues speculated that the haze was produced by dark matter. The center of the galaxy is home to all manner of wild and woolly high-energy phenomena, including a gigantic black hole and violently spinning pulsars, but cosmological theories also suggest that dark matter would be concentrated there. Collisions of dark matter particles, the theory goes, could produce showers of gamma rays.

But in the follow-up analysis, the haze — besides being bigger than Dr. Finkbeiner and his colleagues had thought — turned out to have sharp boundaries, like, well, a bubble. Dark matter, according to the prevailing theory, should be more diffuse.

“Dark matter has been there billions of years,” Dr. Finkbeiner explained. “If something has been going on for billions of years, you wouldn’t expect a sharp edge.”
He and the other scientists said this did not mean that dark matter was not there clogging the center of the galaxy, but that it would be harder to see.

A version of this article appeared in print on November 10, 2010, on page A18 of the New York edition.

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3638p15-the-higgs-boson-de-thuban-draconis-astrum

As above...so below!

Shared by Sui Generis of BirthofGaia heavenforum on November 12th, 2010.

"Because of a great love, one is courageous" - Lao Tzu​

In lakech, Allisiam

• 

 

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

THE eXchanger on Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:22 am
Thanks Sui and, Raven - very nice pictures and postings

 

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

shiloh on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:13 pm
http://darkstarastrology.com/new-moon-march/

New Moon March 2012 – Divinely Mad



March 12, 2012

By Marina



The New Moon on March 22 2012 is at 2º Aries 22’ {15:39 UCT} conjunct Mercury retrograde on the sea monsters tail. Uranus also joins the party, by electrifying the whale’s tail. There has been an electrical watery theme going on while we still have a limp and languid Mars Retrograde. Seems that the universe really wants us to slosh about with mermaids and electrical goods then, which we know is not a great combination. With misty-eyed Neptune closing in on dreamy Fomalhaut it’s a similar vibe to the Slippery Eel New Moon a month ago.

The bonkers Uranus/Sun/Moon/Mercury stellium is semi-sextile Neptune. With all that we get divine madness, lots of Ophelia like eye-rolling and gazing into the lake. Mercury retrograde is spiralling back through Neptune’s mist and getting lost. We once again place ourselves in the hands of God/fate since we cannot do much else.

The Moon is conjunct Asteroid Atropos and Lacrimosa, which is all very tragic isn’t it? How interesting that the March 8 Full Moon two weeks ago was opposite Lachesis who was the 2nd of the fates. Atropos is the 3rd, the grim one and poisonous death witch . There is just such a strong theme of toxic liquids here. The grand trine of Mars/Pluto/Lilith continues from the last Full Moon, which was connected to the Lunar eclipse too. Threads within threads it’s all connected. Are we living in extra ordinary fated times? Is it just me or is synchronicity happening with more frequency? I must say I’m noticing it all the time now.




March 2012 New Moon Aspects




We have Moon conjunct Mercury to add to the confusion, this “can be very naughty or very nice”. I find it makes people good at spinning a yarn, great for actors and comedians but also “this might be a person who finds it hard to stick at anything and is given to fads. At worst this person can be a cheat and someone who you couldn’t trust as far as you could throw them.”

Then we also have Moon conjunct Uranus “These individuals come across as exciting, electric and quite chaotic unless they have more stabilizing factors in their chart. Both the Moon and Uranus are fluctuating and changeable, their emotions often change in a flash.” Well Mercury isn’t exactly famous for commitment and sticking around either, so this is a shifty moon on a wavy sea. I wouldn’t pin my hopes on anything to do with it!

Aries New Moon on Deneb Kaitos


The fixed star Deneb Kaitos is in the tail of Cetus the sea monster. For the Arabs it was known as the second frog, the first frog being that slippery mermaid Fomalhaut. So the two share that unfathomable mysticism. Cetus the constellation represents the great collective consciousness. But there’s no lovely hippie whale song from this creature I’m afraid. With the Moon Robson says it’s a“Pioneer, reckless, headstrong, violent temper, many quarrels.” And with the Sun as this is a New Moon we get “mental disturbances”. There are negative sides to being “connected” which is why so many people fear dipping into the psychic realm. We just don’t know what monster we are going to let into our psyche and that’s where the “mental disturbances” come into it.

New Moon on Asteroid Atropos


To cap it all we get a conjunction to poison potion-maker Atropos. I really don’t want to spread fear and negatively, so I will try to stress the positive ways one can use this very potent medicine. Because that’s what poison really is. For example if you need to get rid of vermin, sometimes, just sometimes, you have to use something really lethal to get the job done. If there are weeds in your life, now’s the time to nuke them. They wont grow back!



The synchronicities continue as this Moon is actually opposite Clotho, the first of the three Fates. (Remember the last Full Moon was opposite Lachesis) Clotho (Roman Nona, 9th) is the spinner of the thread of life on her spindle, Lachesis (Roman Decima, 10th) and then we get Atropos (Roman Morta, Death). Nine, Ten…Death! Something is coming to an end. Look at the nutty numerology. March 22 at 2º 22’ Aries. Would you believe the New moon is also conjunct Deneb Kaitos by 22’!

Back to the New Moon horoscope, so much in Aries. Northern spring. A fresh start. It’s just so darned cyclical. Endings and beginnings, Death and birth.. Draconic charts are drawn up putting the North Node at 0º Aries, these charts are supposed to show hidden spiritual truths. So there must be something special about this point. Retrograde Mercury is at 0º Aries right now. Which stresses again the breaking of karmic or toxic ties. This moon could drive us mad with despair and push us into to make dramatic exits. However, keep the faith, every ending contains the seed of a new era.

For aspects this moon makes to your horoscope see Sun Transits.

Full Moon March 2012 < New Moon March 2012 > Full Moon April 2012.



_________________
Shiloh Za-RaH

I Am the Darkness of the Purple Dawn and the Light of the Moon Turquoise!



Bluey Dracs
The Presence of the Mosaic implies the will of Unity=God=Starhumanity and not the will of Humanity=Man=Separation!
I Am One in Many and Many in One!
Exe*=1
GODGOD=DOGDOG=DEMONA=DEVIL=LIVED=FINANCE=PRIDE=EARTH=HEART
GODDOG=DOGGOD=JCCJCJJC=52=26+26=13+13+13+13=5+2=7
7=7_dec=7_bin=111=DRAGONHEART
Decoder Michael = 54+51=105=15=6=123=ABC=ABBA=BAAB=33=E3=8=3E=ME=WE
MICHAEL SUN = INFINITY-1 = JERUSALEM+1 = EARTH1HEART = DEMON GABRIEL = LOVE MICHAEL

 

Re: New Thuban Q&A from Isaiah Euphrates

Raven on Mon May 07, 2012 8:30 pm

Live Kryon Channelling
Patagonia Kryon Kundalini Cruise
January 27, 2012
As channelled by Lee Carroll for Kryon

The information below is free and available for you to print out, copy and distribute as you wish. The Copyright, however, prohibits sale in any form except by the publisher


LIVE KRYON CHANNELLING
"The Recalibration of the Universe"

This live channelling was Given in Patagonia (bottom of South America)
January 27, 2012

To help the reader, this channelling has been revisited [by Lee and Kryon] to provide even clearer understanding. Often what happens live has implied energy within it, which carries a kind of communication that the printed page does not. So enjoy this enhanced message given in Patagonia on the Kryon Kundalini Cruise.
​

---

Greetings, dear ones, I am Kryon of Magnetic Service. There is so much I want to tell you, but again, we start softly. We honor the energy in the room. We create a bubble around us of wisdom, so those who wish to hear will do so. We speak to many, not just those in the room. I want you to honor this moment, for it's for you. This is not idle information. This information has a profound, Human stamp on it. It means that whatever I'm telling you, you have created. I'm aware that this message is being given in two languages [Spanish and English]. The information is complex, yet simple. So we need you to listen to understand concepts prepared in advance for you by those on this side of the veil who know who you are.

There is a shift going on in this planet. If you are indeed an old soul, it is affecting you, and each of you has a different affectation. That is to say, each one of you will have a different way of responding to the energy. Old souls have something very interesting. They may be old souls, but that means that each of them has a vastly different experience of lives. So each of you is going to react separately and uniquely to the energy of the planet's shift. However, all of you are feeling something interesting. It's an enhancement of your wisdom and knowledge, and the feeling that the energy on the planet is moving in a direction that is toward your consciousness and not away from it.

This is the fourth channel in a series called "The Recalibration of Humanity." We've talked about how Humans are recalibrating, how Gaia is recalibrating and even how your DNA is recalibrating. Now there's one that you didn't expect - how the Universe is recalibrating. It's a difficult premise that I bring forward to you today, for it has concepts outside of three dimensions. And so I will go slow.

Time

We start with the very predictions of the energy you are in. Let us say that you have a racetrack with cars on it. Picture a track that is very large... really large. Let us say that it takes years for the drivers to race around the track. They get tired. Sometimes they will get out of the car and put a new driver in. Sometimes the new driver will get tired and the older driver will come back and get in again. So the race cars are filled with some experienced drivers and some not. As they go around the track, it might take them years to go around just one time.

Let us say that there is a difficult portion of the track, one that is filled with holes. Some don't see them and the newest drivers fall into the holes. The older drivers know to go around. Now in your three-dimensional perception, it is not difficult for you to imagine such a thing. But this is a metaphor of time.

The track represents your 3D concept of time, except you think it is a straight road. It is not. It is in a circle. Unaware of the circle, now pretend for a moment you're one of the drivers in the cars. Also, let us say that you've been around the track many times. The new driver may think the track is straight and unending, for it disappears into the horizon. But as the old soul, you know that the track is really huge and the curve just can't be seen, much like the curvature of the earth. So as an old soul driver, you know where the difficult places in the track are. You also realize in this metaphor that as you drive forward and look out the front of your car, you are looking at a future and the past at the same time. This is one of the premises that a three-dimensional mind cannot grasp - that as you change the future, you are also driving over and changing the past. That premise alone explains how the predictions for 2012 can happen at all.

But 2012 is simply one of the difficult places in the track, and the ancients knew it was coming. They could prophecy a problem ahead on the track because it's part of the circle. It's well known in time, and those who might give a name to it would call itfractal time. In past Human history, some of the difficult parts had actually created the termination of humanity. Some have resulted in a start-over of humanity. The energy that you are in now had a duality in its potential. You could have started over or you could start something the planet had never seen before.

Twenty-two years ago, we told you this: "Get ready for shift," we said. "Get ready for the weather to change," we said. Those things have now come about. They came about not because Kryon or the prophets said they would, but instead because of old souls who saw the difficulty coming. They had gone around the circle of time before and knew where the issues were. It was "known" territory.

The most difficult thing I can tell you for you to conceive of is this: As you steer around these difficulties and move forward on the track, you change the energy of the entire track. Therefore, you change the past as you move toward the future. This is not an easy concept to understand; however, it explains so much to the linear mind of how these things can be. For in your 3D perception, you believe that your experience in the future is going to be a product of what took place in the past. You only go in one direction and your expectations alone are in a straight line. All you have is your experience in the past - and it's not good enough.

As you change the track, you change the rules of the track. So what I wish to say that is simplified is that there is a new paradigm ahead of you. Old souls will see it first, and they will plant the seeds for the rest of humanity. The young people will see it, for they have it in their Akashic inheritance. Slowly, Human nature itself will change and move into a new way of thinking where you're not guided only by the experience of things that took place in what you think is your past. It's an amazing potential. You are not the only planet who has experienced this. However, you are the only planet in your galaxy that is experiencing it now.

The Bigger Picture

Now I'm going to say things that are esoterically unbelievable. Your galaxy knows what's happening here on Earth. I'm not talking about life forms in your galaxy. I'm talking about the very physics of what you think lays there as the "rules." The Universe is cooperating with your shift - expected it - for this is why you came.

Now it gets difficult to explain. You think physics is simply the rules of the way things work? Let me ask you a question: How do you explain what astronomers have named "intelligent design"? Against all odds, the Universe was created for life. Physics is supposed to be random, following rules that are random. Yet it didn't happen that way. The better the instruments got of the astronomer, the more they realized there had to be intelligence in the design. How do you explain that? All they know is the math. What you see before you, which you call your galaxy, is equivalent to rolling a six on the dice 10,000 times in a row! And it makes no sense, since it isn't random and it doesn't follow the bell-shaped curve of nature. That is why they are saying what they are saying.

There had to be a guiding force of creation. Does that change your mind about physics or about what you see before you? So I will start to tell you how actual physics is beginning to cooperate with you. This time fractal has been known for a long time, and you could have gone many ways. In other words, you had many potentials of consciousness. Look at the prophecies of the ancients. They said you were going to have a world war. They said you were going to have termination. Many spiritual systems called for the end of the world where your souls would be collected. Many systems would have you believe a certain way so that you would be prepared and none of those things happened. Does that tell you a little bit about the shift before you? A different paradigm of thinking is coming. These paradigms will deal with problems you have that are currently seen as "unsolvable". So let us start with some unbelievable things.

The Magnetics of the Solar System

Now, my partner, I want you to go slow for both yourself and the translator. Twenty-two years ago, we told you the magnetic field of the earth was critical to your consciousness. Magnetics is a quantum energy. So is gravity, and so is light. You are surrounded by a quantum field, and that is the magnetic field of the earth. We said if Human consciousness is going to change, magnetics will change. It has to. It has to be a complement to what you are doing. It has to posture itself to receive what you are doing. How can the consciousness of this planet expand when the magnetics stay the same? It can't. So the magnetics must move.

So it started with an actual shift of the magnetic lay lines of your planet, and that's now recorded history and something I predicted more than 20 years ago. Now your compasses show you that all I spoke about is now here. Your magnetics has moved greatly since 1989.

Now, there has to be more. What else do you think could change the magnetics of your entire planet? It has to recalibrate, and in order for it to do so, it's going to need help. Your solar system is the engine of magnetic change for this planet. If you know anything about how the solar system works and the energies of it, then this will start to make sense.

In your solar system, the core is the sun. It sends out what is called the solar wind, which is almost entirely magnetic. It's a magnetic energy that literally blasts out from the sun and contains only what was generated from the sun. That magnetic energy has a name - the heliosphere. It "blows" that magnetic wind against the magnetics of your own earth, and that changes your planet.

For if the energy is always the same on Earth, then very little will ever change. For those who wish to get technical, you might say the magnetics of the sun blows against the magnetics of the earth and you will have two interacting magnetic fields. This creates something called inductance, which is a mystery to science. It's the "soup" of overlapping magnetic fields that allows for energy exchange of information and amplification without a power source. It's well used on Earth, but the attributes are seen as mysterious.

So here's what's going to happen. Watch for changes in your sun. You may call them solar storms, but they're just a recalibration for you, and they will worry you. This is because there are many sensitive electronics on and around the planet, and these instruments will react. You count on the magnetic field of your planet to remain the same, but it can't remain the same when there is a giant solar storm happening. Certain kinds of communications will be disrupted. Perhaps even the power grid could be interrupted.

Watch the sun, for it is in the process of shift. It is happening through intelligent design, the love of God and the Creator, changing things for your consciousness. It is a new way of thinking that is developing, literally touching the very DNA field of each Human. This changes the information within the DNA and allows the Human Being to capture and enhance attributes of a new reality it never had before.

Now I get even more physical: Something has been on the way for a very long time. The magnetics of your solar system itself is changing. So here's the challenge: Go find that fact. You'll see it, literally, as your solar system moves through space. It intersects certain attributes of space and this is changing some of the magnetics, which then becomes different from the way they ever were before. This then changes the sun. Do you see the cycle? One enhances the other in a fractal of circular reality. Your movement around the center changes your solar system. The solar system's new position changes the sun's attributes. The sun's attributes are sent to the planet via the heliosphere and this affects your DNA.

Now, the intellectuals will say, "Well, this does not make sense. Those processes ready to impact the earth have been on the way for eons, ready to intersect your solar system. So they haven't 'just happened.' In other words, this would have happened no matter what. It didn't matter if you were in a consciousness shift or not."

I accept this argument, but with explanation. Let us say in the 1600s, there was a spaceship that came by the planet broadcasting music, a radio transmission of music to the planet. Now let me ask you this: Was the transmission real? Yes, I just told you it was. Was the music beautiful and real? Yes. Had the spaceship been on its way for a long time? Yes. How many people on the planet heard the music? And the answer is: None of them! This is because the radio receiver had not been invented yet.

But in this example, the spaceship had always been on its way. Do you see the metaphor? The magnetic changes would have happened anyway, but if the earth had not been ready, then no person would have heard any music. There would be no reaction and Humans would be the same as they always have, if there even would be Humans at all - for some say that you were on your way to destroying yourselves yet again.

You are changing the past by changing the future. You are rearranging the energy of your solar system and also something else. This is hard for you to conceive, dear ones, but we give it to you anyway: Very, very far away from you, things are changing. You don't believe it because they're too far away for you to consider, and in three dimensions, things that are far away are not part of your bubble of reality. However, they're in a quantum state with you.

The entire galaxy revolves as one plate, in a very counter-intuitive way. The stars and the constellations do not orbit within the rules of Newtonian physics that you are used to seeing all around you in your own solar system. For the stars and clusters in your galaxy, distance from the center does not matter. All the stars rotate as one. This is because the galaxy is entangled with the middle of itself. In that state, there is no time or distance. The change of consciousness on this planet has changed the center of the galaxy. This is because what happens here, dear one, is "known" by the center.

It's interesting to us what your reaction to all this is scientifically. You saw that the "creative event" of your Universe is missing some energy in order for it to have formed as it did. In addition, the unusual way the galaxy rotates, as I just stated, was also noted. So you have calculated that for all this to be in place, there has to be missing 3D matter, and you have given it a name - dark matter. How funny! Did you ever think that there could be a multidimensional effect going on that you now can observe and calculate - that has immense power, but can't be seen? It's not "matter" at all and it's not 3D. It's quantum energy.

Let me tell you something about physics. Yet again, I'll make it simple. Everything your scientists have seen in physics happens in pairs. At the moment, there are four laws of physics in your three-dimensional paradigm. They represent two pairs of energy types. Eventually, there will be six. At the center of your galaxy is what you call a black hole, but it is not a single thing. It is a duality. There is no such thing as "singularity". You might say it's one energy with two parts - a weak and a strong quantum force. And the strangest thing is it knows who you are. It is the creator engine. It's different in other galaxies than this one. It's unique.

The very physics of your galaxy is postured by what you do here. The astronomers can look into the cosmos and they will discover different physics in different galaxies. Could it be that there's something going on in the other galaxies like this one? I'm not going to answer that.

Different Thinking

Dear Human Being, this is bigger than you think. Old soul, this is bigger than you think. This is why we plead for you to stay on this planet and to change your cellular structure, to mine your Akash and start looking inside. In other words, do not take the past and project it to your future reality, for you are able to do things now that you were never able to do before. Gaia is cooperating. The Universe is cooperating and Lightworkers are moving into a manifestation paradigm.

Personally for your own body, many of you are getting younger instead of older. You are creating solutions to problems you thought were unsolvable. You were told today that your population is expanding at a rate of at least a billion souls every decade. So what does your past tell you the problem will be? It will be global explosion of humanity. The result, you feel, will be lack of food and water, overcrowding and starvation. That is what your past tells you will happen.

Let me tell you what the assumption is, dear Human Being. The assumption to create this conclusion is that Human Beings are simply too dense to notice it and have no idea what to do to change it. That's the old perception, based on an old Human nature. Watch what happens. Watch...what...happens. You're going to figure it out and there will be elegant solutions to unsolvable problems of the past.

In almost every field of science, this is coming. It will help Human Beings live longer and healthier without war. There'll come a time when there won't even be terrorism, dear ones. Oh, there will be unbalance, Human Being. That comes with life. But not country against country, not spiritual group against spiritual group.

This is what you are planting seeds for now, and the Universe knows who you are. Your galaxy resounds with your victory! Death has no sting. I will tell you this: You're all involved for eons to come here. Old souls are starting to manifest the new reality. I have no clock. I cannot tell you how long this is going to take. But you've had 18 earth years to make a big difference, for that is the energy we see.

Recalibration of Systems and New Sight

By the way, what happens to the solar system when the magnetics shift? Now you start to see where astrology will begin to shift as well. There are those who will start to apply the quantum filter to astrology. It's happening now. What is your quantum sign? It's different than the three-dimensional sign. Oh, there'll come a day, dear ones, in science, where the scientists will be able to apply what I will call a quantum filter to alter what they see. This will be a filter developed for telescopes that involves a super-cooling of the filter itself. Astronomers will be able to look out into the cosmos and, for the first time, see quantum attributes.

The first thing they'll notice is two things in the center of the galaxy, not one. The next thing will be the colors around the Human Being. And science will start a whole new section called "The Study of the Human Auric Energy." All of these are coming.

How long will all this take? That is up to you. Meanwhile, plant the seeds of understanding, of peacefulness, of appreciation and of love. Become slow to anger, slow to create drama. Take on the attributes of the masters, and that is what your abilities are changing to right now. Soften in all things. Look at each other differently.

There'll come a time when there's no war. Those in this room and those listening will know I'm right. Watch for these things in your science. When they happen, remember this day when I told you how it really works.

Blessed is the Human Being who has understood this message as personal for themselves, not about the cosmos. It's about the inner being and the journey of the soul - and the Universe within.

And so it is.

KRYON



http://www.kryon.com/k_channel11_Patagonia 1-12.html

LIVE KRYON CHANNELLING
"The Recalibration of Wisdom"

This live channelling was Given in Lima, Peru
November 27, 2011

To help the reader, this channelling has been revisited [by Lee and Kryon] to provide even clearer understanding. Often what happens live has implied energy within it, which carries a kind of communication that the printed page does not. So enjoy this enhanced message given in Lima, Peru.
​

---

Greetings, dear ones, I am Kryon of Magnetic Service. The process has begun, and we've spoken of it many times. The information that I'm about to give has been given at one time before. However, it has not been given by Kryon in your language [Spanish], so we give you a review that will not take long. It's important that you hear it, and that others hear it, so they will understand what all this means.

This information has not been given in its completeness, and so the information is easy to be misunderstood. It is information that is honoring to your area [Peru] and it is esoteric. So we begin.

Review - The Great Shift as Predicted

There is a shift going on in the planet, and it's a slow, profound shift of Human consciousness. Twenty-two years ago, I told you about it in the first transcription, Kryon, Book I. Part of the Kryon energy is created to give you understanding, information, and love about things that are new on the planet. This is one. Although it's new, it's not unexpected.

Years ago, I started speaking about the movement that is upon you. Even this day, it has been shown to you as it was transcribed and recorded [earlier in the meeting]. We have said that the Kundalini of the planet is moving. We never used the word serpent, but we do now. This has been the prophecy of the ancients, but not necessarily the ones that are here - for the ones who are hearing this should know that I speak from Peru.

These particular prophecies have mostly come from those in the northern hemisphere. Many have told of this time as the movement of energy. Some prophecies came from the Maya and others still from the very high north. They said that there would come a time of potential, of a magnificent change for planet Earth. It would represent a consciousness shift and would start moving the Feathered Serpent south. Now it is important that you understand why this is happening, and what it really represents. *

The Three Grids

There are three grids on this planet, and we have spoken of all three just recently. The magnetic grid is one of them. I arrived in 1989 and that which you would call my partner's consciousness and I melded to give you a message: We told you that the magnetic grid of the planet would move more in the next 10 years than it had in 100. By the year 2002, it had done just that. Science shows this and is measureable even with a simple compass. The magnetic grid moved and we told you it would.

This was only the beginning, for it interfaces with two other grids on the planet that are also invisible. The second one is called the Crystalline Grid. The third one we will call Gaia. All of these are together and intertwined, but the one that is the most dynamic is the Crystalline. The Crystalline Grid responds to Human consciousness and that which is called the Kundalini of the planet. This is energy that moves and uncoils itself, but only if it is called to do so through that multidimensional energy called, "Human consciousness." This is what has happened, and now let us explain why.

It may seem oversimplified, but we have mentioned many times before that the planet is out of balance. The balance we speak of is the balance between male and female consciousness. Years ago, we gave you this information. We told you that the planet is heavy in the gender of masculinity. It's not balanced. This balance affects the grid, and the planet, and Gaia. But Humans have given this energy to the planet in what they have developed over history. This is now changing, since Humans are changing. As Humans change, so does Gaia.

Don't misunderstand: This has nothing to do with men and women. It has to do with the consciousness of male and female. In the latest information of Kryon, given in the 12 layers of DNA, we described one of the profound layers of DNA that stands by itself. We're not going to give you the layer number, for we want you to find it and discover it - and then laugh at the synchronicity of the numerology. It's called the Wise Divine Feminine. It is not combined with any other layer, as some are. It is soft and sweet. It is Mother energy - actually much more than that.

What is happening today in this consciousness shift is that these are the specific energies that are beginning to change. And again it may seem to be oversimplified, but it has something to do with the magnetics, as well as Human consciousness. There is system that you give very little credibility to that involves all of these earth energies as a catalyst to each other. As goes Human consciousness goes the grids of the earth - and one affects the other.

Attributes of the Northern and Southern Hemispheres

The northern hemisphere of the planet has contained most of what you would call the masculine energy of the planet. The southern hemisphere carries a more feminine energy. This is information I have given to you before. This is the polarity, even the duality, of the planet. When Human beings start to change, so then does the planet and the energies of the grids. Therefore, there is a major change in the process regarding the grids of Earth in response to humanity.

Make a note to yourselves that the imbalance of humanity and the hemispheres can be seen in history. Most of the major wars and all of the world wars have been started and fought mostly in the north. Most of the fighting has been there. The conquering of nations over and over has been there. That has been the balance of the planet, and you can see the masculine "war" imbalance very strong in the northern hemisphere.

Most of the wars in the southern hemisphere have been caused by those from the north, coming to conquer or enslave. Do you see what we are saying? Did you ever consider these things? The northern hemisphere is masculine heavy, but not for long.

Now, if it is true that the planet is starting to rebalance itself in consciousness, what do you think is happening? The answer is that you're starting to see a rebalancing of the consciousness of male and female. It means that the males of the planet are becoming more balanced. It means the females of the planet are being more balanced. It means humanity is becoming more balanced.

The Beginning of the End of War

There is a saying that, "If women ran the world, they would never send their children to the battlefield." This becomes the definition of "mother energy." Let me give you another saying. "If the world is balanced male and female, then Humans would never send their children to the battlefield."

The rebalancing of male and female energies on the grids means that a certain kind of earth energy will move. The Kundalini must move. It has been in that place for so long in the northern hemisphere - India and Tibet. Many say that this was the center of spiritual wisdom. Indeed, there was wisdom there, and it helped to balance the male heavy energy, but not without it also becoming male heavy. How many female leaders do you see in the ranks of the monks and other orders in those areas? The answer is almost none.

The southern hemisphere represents the female energy of the planet. The Kundalini starts to move in response to humanity and it uncurls itself and the tail of the serpent will end up at the bottom of Chile. The center of the [Feathered] Serpent is in Peru. [Journey of the Feathered Serpent] *

Not A Shift of Wisdom

Contrary to what you may have been told, this has nothing to do with the shift of wisdom to the southern hemisphere. Listen. What is here? [in Peru] If you were to study the ancients here, you're going to find wise, divine feminine! It is everywhere. There's a place not far in the mountain that we could call the capital of the wise, divine feminine on the planet [Machu Picchu]. The earth has ignored it! It laid there unknown by all but the local farmers and without the energy of discovery. It was blind to the conquerors [the Spaniards], who moved all around the area and never found it. Humanity was not ready for it, and now it is.

There will be those who would hear this message and say, "Well, the wisdom of Tibet is moving into Peru." That is not so. Instead, the heart chakra of the earth, which is the Kundalini, now begins to seek another wisdom center, a more balanced one. It moves to a place where softer wisdom has prevailed. It seeks out the wisdom of the divine feminine.

So the earth is ready to glean this wisdom and pull upon the portals of this area. In the process, the consciousness of the planet will be changed even more. It has been waiting for this.

The Real Energy of Machu Picchu

The area you call Machu Picchu (which is your name, not the name given by those who built it) is a sweet energy. It is a womb-like and safe energy. It is beautiful and that is why so many are starting to come here. They are drawn to this new energy, for they knew it was coming. Old souls all over the planet want to feel it. They want to climb the rocks and celebrate it. This is a new earth. It is time for the wisdom that has always been here to be placed on that which is the Crystalline Grid of the planet and shared with all.

I have just explained the movement of the Kundalini, the energy of the Feathered Serpent. It honors the area. It has always been ready for this. You've had 100 years' celebration of Machu Picchu. That's all. That's only a fraction of the history of the north. It's been hidden and only revealed recently. It was being prepared, protected, and now is ready to be revealed as the capital of the wise, divine feminine on the planet.

There are secrets here that may never be revealed. There are those who represent the Seven Sisters here who have not yet shown themselves. There is an awakening here, and some of the shamanic Humans of the area are aware.

Peruvians, celebrate! For this is what some of the old souls here have been waiting for. And that's why there's resistance. There is resistance because the old energy here does not want to accept this. The old energy here has come from the northern hemisphere long ago and it's out of balance and you know it. It does not honor the land, the air, or the water.

So there will be shift and change and resistance. Old soul, be ready for this. Celebrate what is happening and prepare the next generation for what is coming. This is the message we give. It's more complete than it's ever been given before, giving you the reason why it moves. We are tying this even to your DNA, for it is in "remembrance" mode, waiting for this to happen.

Finally, there are those who will not understand this message. For those, I say that it's not necessary that you do. Instead, know this: The love of God is in you and it wants you to leave differently than you came. You don't need to grasp all the esoterics. We only ask that you feel that which is true.

You are known by God and we wash your feet. It's your time.

And so it is

KRYON=83=WISDOM=GNOSIS=IN PERU=IN 60=IN WORD=IN RAVEN=HER CAT IN BAB E5=CATHERINE
APEP=38=NOAH=BRIDE=ALPHA
* Kryon Book 8 - 2000 - Page 341 "The Journey of the Feathered Serpent."

For Xeia SuiGeneris and the Sisterhood of Andromeda in the Ennead of the Astral Southern Waters of Atlas-Pleione
in Perseus Enantio Dextro and Andromeda Enantio Levo

http://www.kryon.com/k_channel11_Lima-11.html