The Factuals versus the OABS (Old Age BullShit)

Carol wrote:

CERN

The video below was originally posted in 2008
A Black Hole (or two) at CERN?… “CERN COLLIDER TURNS TO BLACKHOLE ON LIVE WEB CAM!!” VIDEO
FAKE...
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/11/cern-explosion-nuclear-fires-dont-fall-for-the-psy-op-3247480.html

2008 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JYkMhQ9gf8
Posted on 2015/11/23 by kauilapele



https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2015/11/23/a-black-hole-or-two-at-cern-cern-collider-turns-to-blackhole-on-live-web-cam-video/
http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2015/11/23/major-explosion-at-cern-hadron-collider-videos/​

Personal note: I don't know what to think about these youtube videos and the post with them as I tend to go with verifiable facts. The following was posted with the series of youtube videos that are with the first youtube link. What I find interesting is this. Could CERN really explode and create a black hole that sucks in cars as viewed in the "supposedly" one live web cam? If so, what then? Actually it's a fake. Other information does tend to make me wonder what is going on that they're not telling us (as usual).

Published on Nov 20, 2015
In Part 1-3, the Hadron Colllider at CERN, and its 'synchronized' junior devices across the planet were discussed. The basic narrative being that this massive device was being used for nefarious purposes to open a worm hole allowing 'Draco' ETs, who have been on earth for thousands of years (AKA Demons) to have massive reinforcements, in a great space war above our heads.

Thus the term Draco. The issue here being that the Draco should not have space flight/or 'gate technology' or even be here. They are not the bad guys here. They are manipulated by an "A-I" Artificial Intelligence, found in the sentient fluid from another location or source in the universe. Found in crude oil, (Falklands War), it is extremely dangerous substance that pulls down higher conscious beings and makes them into homicidal killers (Nazi Germany).

In this Tek Chat, Patty Brassard gives a basic run down of the temporary shut down of the Collider, and the detailed images obtained to show the beams go off focus, and the damage starts. Preceded by a brief chat with Karen MacDonald, who introduced us to Sgt Daniel for the first time. A major whistle blower with an long list of agencies to his name.
(USAF number and data is on file)

As with Bases we listen to what people have to say, and then draw conclusions as best we can. A further 2nd interview with Sgt. Daniel is planned.

Basically no public word has emerged from CERN, as to what has been reported in these interviews.

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Carol wrote:

Personal note:
I don't know what to think about these youtube videos and the post with them as I tend to go with verifiable facts. The following was posted with the series of youtube videos that are with the first youtube link. What I find interesting is this. Could CERN really explode and create a black hole that sucks in cars as viewed in the "supposedly" one live web cam? If so, what then? Actually it's a fake. Other information does tend to make me wonder what is going on that they're not telling us (as usual).

What is really going on Carol?
What is going on is that the 'alternative media' has become a main tool for the 'real elitists' to 'recruit' its own supposed opponents as its cooperatives. Call this psyop if you like, as your excellent Steven Greer share points out rather appropriately.
Can you see now perhaps, that your 'inside sources', as well meaning and sincere as thy might be or pretend to be, are actually 'secret agents' of those things they are trying to expose, willingly and unwillingly and often unknowingly?
There are Smurfettes and Papa Smurfs, but the 'Gargamels' are not as clumsy as the Clumsy Smurfs, but better be a Brainy Smurf than a Vanity Smurf, don't you agree?

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bobhardee wrote:12/2/2015


This is dated a few days back but it is a good follow up to the lead story.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RND-kDvuPo

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"The collision energy between two nuclei reaches 1000 TeV. This energy is that of a bumblebee hitting us on the cheek on a summer day. But the energy is concentrated in a volume that is approximately 10^-27 (a billion-billion-billion) times smaller.

There is nothing to be concerned about Bob. As stated above the energy described compares with some insect hitting not your speeding car, but your face walking in a field or pathway.
Try not to bestow so much credence to science phobes and misinformed nabsers associating CERN with matter eating Black Holes and similar bogus science. Those 'wanna be dogooders' and humanity protectors only succeed to scare the folks who see fearbased conspiracies wherever they go or stick their disinfomed phobia infested mentalities.

Here are some facts, which are often ignored in the 'you tube phobia' and 'alternative media' misinformation, which is, as you might have guessed largely sponsored by the 'true' worldwide conspiracy.
This global brainwash is not top down as the nabsers proclaim, but a distorted and skewed data suppression mess and as you can explore in Steven Greer's 'disclosure' below.

The Large Hadron Collider's (LHC) maximum energy is 14 TeV and not 1045 + TeV in its design, size and applied physics. This design becomes maximized in colliding two protons, which have been accelerated in opposite direction by applied magnetic fields and the associated physics based on 'Special Relativity'.

So using 82 protons, which is an ION as a charged atomic element or isotope as the 'energy intersection' changes the physical parameters, for which the LHC is designed, as is stated in the videos and articles, particularly in increasing the volume of the energy interaction by multiple amounts.

If 2 protons maximize at 14 TeV, then 82 protons increase this energy threshold by a factor of 41 to 41x14=574 TeV and about half of the 'enhanced doubled' energy of 1045 TeV.

For comparison, when the universe was born, technically it 'tunnelled' out of a single and the first Black Hole singularity in a 'Einstein-Rosen-Bridge' or Wormhole; the energy of this 'Mother of all Wormholes' was 12,400 TeV and as you can see over ten times more 'energetic' than this misrepresentation of subatomic physics and quackery science as promulgated by nabsers.

That this fearmongering in regards to science, ET abductions, mutilations and 'evil invading ETs' is the real agenda of the 'real ptb', would be pretty clear to you, should you watch the Greer disclosure presentation from beginning to end.

Now the real science in the CERN experiments is as is stated, a decreasing or 'shrinking volume' with an increasing energy and would indeed close in towards the physics of the beginnings of the universe.
But the 82 protons have of course a much greater volume, than just 2 protons and have a much larger volume than the original wormhole.

When Steven Greer talks about the consciousness as a quantum energy and so forth, he does indeed refer to the physics, where the lower dimensions intersect in say a multidimensional energy spectrum.
Now the volume of the original wormhole is like the single legoblock and the entire volume of the universe is made up of many many of those. The energy in one 'wormhole lego unit' is what is known as ZPE and it can be exactly calculated as those 12,400 TeV. But the volume it occupies as such a spacetime unit is so 10^-68 cubicmeters and far far smaller, than that occupied by 82 protons as approximately 82x10^-44=9.4x10^-43 cubic meters.

Iow the LHC simply cannot recreate the Big Bang energy as the LHC design must reduce the volume to its absolute minimum of 12,400 TeV concentrated in the wormhole size. It is not just energy but volume, technically the wavelength of the de Broglie matter wave or Compton Radius, which determines the CERN collider parameters.

About the 'temperature LHC phobia'; the facts again relate to the 'scale' or size or wavelength of the energy realm explored. It can be shown, that the temperature of the Big Bang wormhole is 1.24x10²⁰ Kelvin, which are 124 million trillion degrees CONCENTRATED inside the wormhole. As the quantum universe expands (in the lego units), this temperature diffuses or iow the universe is cooling down due to its expansion.
The CERN particle phycisists so extrapolate the cosmology of the universes' wormhole evolution using the laws of nature and science to match experimental observations with their models, such as just indicated and also known as the Planck Black Body Thermodynamics of the Universe aka the Standard Big Bang model.

One of the 'errors' or misapplied data of this cosmology is to associate the unitary wormhole scale with the associated temperatures, such as measured by CERN.
It is 'misapplication' of the equations, because the singularity temperature of the Big Bang as that of the actual wormhole was much greater than that of the wormhole itself.
So the initial Quantum Big Bang temperature was not 124 million trillion Kelvin but of the order of a trillion trillion trillion Kelvin and derived from the energy realm predating the lower lightspeed restricted inertial universe. This you know or read about as the higher dimensional universe, Steven Greer also repeatedly invokes to separate the human applied sciences to the science of the real ETs.
The higher temperature so relates to the luminosity physics of CERN simply like that of a 'cooling down oven or stove' and that is in terms of a surface area emitting heat and light as a form of electromagnetic radiation.

The most interesting aspect of CERN, so would be the nexus in the universe's timeline when the greater temperature actually caught up with the wormhole temperature.
Doing the calculations shows you that this describes something called 'Bosonic Unification', meaning that the expanding universe had an overall temperature of 124 million trillion Kelvin. The CERN Ion scattering temperature is about 4 trillion degrees and so 31 million times cooler than this 'critical temperature'.
The time was about 2 nanoseconds or 2 billionth of a second and smaller by a factor of about a thousand from this ION induced collission temperature of CERN, said to be 1 millionth of a second following the Big Bang. What they term the 'confinement temperature, when protons and neutrons formed the quark-gluon plasma' is just what I have termed the 'Bosonic Unification' and so you see there the 'error' of the CERN cosmology in actually approximating the Quantum Big Bang.
The size of the universe at that timemarker was about the scale of a beach ball or say the size of a chimpanzee or a small human so 1.2 meters across.

Nevertheless, the standard model is precise and approximate enough, to follow and predict the general evolution of the universe to greater and greater precision, as the universe grows in size.
The 'errors' relate to the actual birth of the universe at the nanosecond realm of the timeline.

Much of the CERN physics is a little misguided, as the CERN physicists don't understand the Big Bang initial conditions sufficiently to design their experiments to maximum efficiency. But generally it is all valid high energy physics and research.

About the 'Black Hole' phobia. Again, you as a relative science novice can now return to the wormhole lego unit and propose, that this wormhole MUST represent the minimum size of say a Black Hole. As all Black Holes have a basic static Schwarzschild field solution given in the mathematical expression of its size as R_{Black Hole}=2GM/c² and you know that this 'curvature radius' of the Black Hole must be so 1.6x10^-23 meters.
Knowing this, you can then easily show that the LHC cant possibly create any real Black Holes. (And yes I know that the CERN physicists are not aware of this fact, but they are using erroneous initial conditions for the Universe's creation as said before).

How do you show this?
The only other unknown factor in the Schwarzschild formula is the mass M of the Black Hole and solving for this gives you M_{Black Hole} = R_{Black Hole}.c²/2G where G is the Newton Gravity Constant from the textbooks say.
So M becomes about 6500 kilograms or the weight of an elephant. So does anyone with half a brain believe that CERN produces Black Holes of a weight that of an elephant?
By the way the earth has a 'weight' of 6 trillion trillion kg and this relatively heavy weight is the Black Hole size of a golf ball for comparison. You can use the formulas above to check this for yourself.

The mistake in the press releases regarding CERN created Black Holes derives from so called 'primordial' Black Holes from Stephen Hawkings calculations and indeed related to Black Holes, but in terms of the inverse proportionality between a Black Hole's Mass M and its temperature T. So the smaller a Black Hole, the hotter and the larger a Black Hole the colder its temperature would be.
So 'primordial' Black Holes are all very hot and I just before showed you their minimum Temperature, namely that of the lego unit wormhole. But in the real universe they don't exist as inertial objects due to the energy gradient between the dimensions and the 'Bosonic Unification'.

End of the physics-cosmology lesson Bob. I hope you can digest it as information given to counter the disinformation and the misinformation abounding ubiquitously.

The real 'danger' is for good hearted and truly mentally evolved humans like you to be misled and misguided by the many folks, who claim to be anti NWO, but who have been conditioned and are 'mind-meme infected' through 'alternative information' media and have so become 'brainwashed' and manipulated in a manner which supports the very agenda they as the 'awakened ones' and 'do gooders' and 'know betters' proclaim as their motivation to oppose.

Your objective respectful and multitopical examination and research into the presently experienced reality is well suited for a real 'New World Order' and the unavoidable contact agendas of the approaching planetary future. Many of the 'great sleuths' and NWO detectives will find that their 'great insights' into the workings of the human culture and civilizations had been controlled and 'guided' by the same institutions and cultural edifices they so vehemently had attempted to expose.

Apart from the actual status of the present status quo of the ET inducted and associated science on planet Earth (He is not too far off the truth), I would agree with all of Steven Greer's disclosure statements. Particularly as to the nature and agendas of abductions, ETs, 'manmade aliens', mutilations and the history of the UFO phenomenon since the ending of World War 2 and the creation of political Israel. And of course the eschatological references made by Steven Greer, whilst appropriate, nevertheless require a more detailed analysis, as they relate on a deep level, both physical and metaphysical to the agendas of a parallel timeline in the form of the islamization of the global 'spiritual' Noosphere.
This video should reaffirm many of your impressions and intuitions you already carry and hold in your thinking heart and feeling mind - a not so human characteristic.

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Cern: Record energies create matter similar to that formed immediately after Big Bang

• By Jayalakshmi K
  November 26, 2015 06:16 GMT

Lead ions collide in the CMS detector of the LHC at CernCern​

The Large Hadron Collider at Cern in Geneva has created a state of matter realised immediately after the Big Bang. This was achieved using lead-ion collisions at 1000 TeV, a record energy about twice as high as that of any previous collider experiment. The experiments will help understand the properties of strongly interacting systems similar to matter in the universe shortly after the Big Bang.
The LHC has been colliding protons for some time this year at around 13 TeV since the collider resumed operations after a two-year shutdown. As lead atoms contain the electric charges of 82 protons, the machine can accelerate them to 82 times the energy of a proton beam, allowing energy to reach 1045 TeV in the collisions. Increasing the energy of collisions will increase the volume and the temperature of the quark-gluon plasma, taking it closer to matter immediately following the Big Bang.


The lead-ion beams were put into collision for the first time in the early morning of 17 November 2015 and 'stable beams' were declared on 25 November. More than 30,000 particles can be created in a collision between two lead ions. This corresponds to an unprecedented energy density that is more than 40 times the energy density of a proton.
"The collision energy between two nuclei reaches 1000 TeV. This energy is that of a bumblebee hitting us on the cheek on a summer day. But the energy is concentrated in a volume that is approximately 10-27 (a billion-billion-billion) times smaller. The energy concentration (density) is therefore tremendous and has never been realised before under terrestrial conditions," explains Jens Jørgen Gaardhøje, professor at the Niels Bohr Institute at the University of Copenhagen and head of the Danish research group within the Alice experiment at Cern.

During collisions, most of the kinetic energy of the colliding particles is transformed into matter in the form of a host of new particles (quarks) and their antiparticles (antiquarks) as dictated by Einstein's E=mc² equation. This soup of quarks and antiquarks at a temperature of over 4000 billion degrees is held together by the strong force meditated by fundamental particles called the gluons.
Approximately one millionth of a second after the Big Bang, quarks and gluons became confined inside the protons and the neutrons. This state has now been realised in the lead collisions at Cern.
"It is a tradition to collide ions over one month every year as part of our diverse research programme at the LHC," said Cern director-general Rolf Heuer. "This year however is special as we reach a new energy and will explore matter at an even earlier stage of our universe."

The four large LHC experiments – Atlas, CMS, LHCb and Alice -- will all take data over this campaign. "There are many very dense and very hot questions to be addressed with the ion run for which our experiment was specifically designed and further improved during the shutdown," said Alice collaboration spokesperson Paolo Giubellino. "For instance, we are eager to learn how the increase in energy will affect charmonium production, and to probe heavy flavour and jet quenching with higher statistics. The whole collaboration is enthusiastically preparing for a new journey of discovery."
In earlier LHC experiments the perfect liquid nature of the quark-gluon plasma had been confirmed as also the existence of "jet quenching" in ion collisions, a phenomenon in which generated particles lose energy through the quark-gluon plasma.
The LHC detectors were substantially improved during the LHC's first long shutdown. Earlier this year, the LHC broke its own previous record by colliding protons at 13 TeV in the centre-of-mass, thanks to higher-field magnets and an extended ring.
The world's largest and most powerful particle accelerator consists of a 27km ring of superconducting magnets with a number of accelerating structures. It first started colliding particles on 10 September 2008.

More about LHC

• Cern particle collider to start operations soon as engineers fix short-circuit
• LHC experiments shed light on Higgs boson and its interactions with other particles
• Cern LHC experiment suggests the universe is left-handed
• Large Hadron Collider experiment discovers exotic pentaquark particles
• LHC: Boldly going where no experiment has gone before, as collision energy touches new record
• Cern Large Hadron Collider detects extremely rare particle decays confirming Standard Model
• Cern: LHC restarts collisions that will eventually explore black holes and dark matter

 

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Re: The Factuals versus the Old Age BS or OABS

shiloh Today at 12:51 pm
orthodoxymoron wrote:


I'm almost to the point of just reading a couple of New York newspapers -- and leaving most of the esoteric stuff behind. I think it's possible for one to get sucked into something they can't escape. I've frankly spent most of my life attempting to avoid a lot of the material I've been considering for the past few years -- and I now see the wisdom in that. I don't think I'll be particularly religious or irreligious. I'll probably just read the newspaper and go for long walks. It's easier that way.

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Carol wrote:


I know what you mean Oxy. Trying to sort out what's real and what's made up is more of a challenge these days. However, Simon Parks talks about CERN. This video is from last month if anyone is interested. "Published on Oct 5, 2015

Excerpt from a 2 hr. interview where Simon describes Illuminati's desperate last-ditch attempt to launch New World Order. Hear full October talk under "INTERVIEWS" at www.simonparkes.org"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsYr__uk3Eo​

orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Carol. I continue to think that humanity has lived under a One-World (or possibly even a One Solar-System) Government for thousands of years -- and that the Original-Creator (or genetic and social engineer) of the Human-Experiment got removed in antiquity (with a much-tougher administrator taking their place) -- for better or worse, I know not. All I know is that this whole thing has been pretty darn nasty (going way, way back). BTW -- some of those Pope-Caricatures are in poor-taste and over-the-edge -- but I bet they generate a lot of laughter in and around the Vatican!!

"Enough Theology, Oxy!! We've Got Reservations at the Ritz-Carlton!!"​

Cardinal Danneels admits: “Mafia” club brought down Benedict XVI to make Church “much more modern”

By Pamela Geller on September 25, 2015 - See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/cardinal-danneels-admits-mafia-club-brought-down-benedict-xvi-to-make-church-much-more-modern.html/#sthash.csMoSldU.dpuf

Pope Benedict spoke honestly about Islam. Now it has come to light that he was being undermined by a shadowy cabal that wanted to install Cardinal Bergoglio — the present Pope Francis — as Pope and “modernize” the Catholic Church. One thing they’ve certainly succeeded in doing is ending all resistance to the global jihad that has victimized hundreds of thousands of Christians. The Church leadership is betraying its own people.




“Cardinal Danneels admits: ‘Mafia’ club brought down Benedict XVI to make Church ‘much more modern,’” by Robert Spencer, Jihad Watch, September 25, 2015:
Danneels “called it a ‘mafia’ club that bore the name of St. Gallen. The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, to make it ‘much more modern’, and for Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio to head it.”

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Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio is Pope Francis. So this “mafia” cabal succeeded. They got their Pope who would help them impose a “drastic reform of the Church, to make it ‘much more modern.'” Why an institution that claims to transmit and preserve divine revelation would need to be “modern” remains unexplained, but clearly this palace coup heralded a significant change in the Church’s stance toward Islam. Pope Benedict XVI said this on September 12, 2006 at the University of Regensburg in Germany:

I was reminded of all this recently, when I read the edition by Professor Theodore Khoury (Münster) of part of the dialogue carried on — perhaps in 1391 in the winter barracks near Ankara — by the erudite Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus and an educated Persian on the subject of Christianity and Islam, and the truth of both. It was presumably the emperor himself who set down this dialogue, during the siege of Constantinople between 1394 and 1402; and this would explain why his arguments are given in greater detail than those of his Persian interlocutor.
The dialogue ranges widely over the structures of faith contained in the Bible and in the Qur’an, and deals especially with the image of God and of man, while necessarily returning repeatedly to the relationship between — as they were called — three “Laws” or “rules of life”: the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Qur’an.
It is not my intention to discuss this question in the present lecture; here I would like to discuss only one point — itself rather marginal to the dialogue as a whole — which, in the context of the issue of “faith and reason”, I found interesting and which can serve as the starting-point for my reflections on this issue.


In the seventh conversation edited by Professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the holy war. The emperor must have known that sura 2, 256 reads: “There is no compulsion in religion”. According to the experts, this is one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under threat. But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Qur’an, concerning holy war.
Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the “Book” and the “infidels”, he addresses his interlocutor with a startling brusqueness, a brusqueness that we find unacceptable, on the central question about the relationship between religion and violence in general, saying:

“Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached”.

The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. “God”, he says, “is not pleased by blood — and not acting reasonably is contrary to God’s nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats… To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death…”

The decisive statement in this argument against violent conversion is this: not to act in accordance with reason is contrary to God’s nature.

The editor, Theodore Khoury, observes: “For the emperor, as a Byzantine shaped by Greek philosophy, this statement is self-evident.
But for Muslim teaching, God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality.” Here Khoury quotes a work of the noted French Islamist R. Arnaldez, who points out that Ibn Hazn went so far as to state that God is not bound even by his own word, and that nothing would oblige him to reveal the truth to us. Were it God’s will, we would even have to practice idolatry.

It is a swift and sudden descent from these honest, accurate, and carefully reasoned observations to this, from Pope Francis’ Apostolic Exhortation Evangelii Gaudium, November 24, 2013:

In order to sustain dialogue with Islam, suitable training is essential for all involved, not only so that they can be solidly and joyfully grounded in their own identity, but so that they can also acknowledge the values of others, appreciate the concerns underlying their demands and shed light on shared beliefs. We Christians should embrace with affection and respect Muslim immigrants to our countries in the same way that we hope and ask to be received and respected in countries of Islamic tradition.
I ask and I humbly entreat those countries to grant Christians freedom to worship and to practice their faith, in light of the freedom which followers of Islam enjoy in Western countries! Faced with disconcerting episodes of violent fundamentalism, our respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful generalisations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.

And more twaddle from Pope Francis’ address to Congress, September 24, 2015:
Our world is increasingly a place of violent conflict, hatred and brutal atrocities, committed even in the name of God and of religion. We know that no religion is immune from forms of individual delusion or ideological extremism.

And because Roman Catholics in the U.S. have such an exaggerated and borderline idolatrous awe for the papacy, they go along with all this readily enough: if the Pope is a Leftist multicultutalist who dissembles about the nature of Islam and the jihad threat, well, then, so are they.
Even those who realize that this is not only nonsense, but suicidal nonsense, fear to say anything, out of “respect” for the Pope and his office.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, filled with weak and feckless limousine liberals such as Robert McManus, Kevin Farrell and Jaime Soto, has for years been a mouth organ of the far Left, and so today is eager to go along with Francis’ futile, naive, and wrongheaded commitment to “dialogue” with the Religion of Peace, even at the price of abandoning Middle Eastern Christians to their fate and working actively to silence those who speak out against this persecution. It is as ruthless and persistent as any Inquisition board ever was in rooting out even the slightest public dissent from their “Islam is a religion of peace and dialogue will solve everything, so shut up about the persecuted Christians” line.

And so the Catholic Church hierarchy of today opens the gates of the West to those who would destroy it and kill, convert or subjugate its people.
I am apparently a very bad Catholic, as I believe all this to an abomination. The Church could have and should have been a voice for a genuinely charitable response to the jihad threat, and a robust defense of the value of Judeo-Christian civilization.

Instead, Danneels and his henchmen rule the day, and have their man in the Vatican.

“Cardinal Danneels Admits to Being Part of ‘Mafia’ Club Opposed to Benedict XVI,” by Edward Pentin, National Catholic Register, September 24, 2015:​

Further serious concerns are being raised about Cardinal Godfried Danneels, one of the papal delegates chosen to attend the upcoming Ordinary Synod on the Family, after the archbishop emeritus of Brussels confessed this week to being part of a radical “mafia” reformist group opposed to Benedict XVI.It was also revealed this week that he once wrote a letter to the Belgium government favoring same-sex “marriage” legislation because it ended discrimination against LGBT groups.
The cardinal is already known for having once advised the king of Belgium to sign an abortion law in 1990, for telling a victim of clerical sex abuse to keep quiet, and for refusing to forbid pornographic, “educational” materials being used in Belgian Catholic schools. He also once said same-sex “marriage” was a “positive development,” although he has sought to distinguish such a union from the Church’s understanding of marriage. According to a forthcoming authorized biography on the cardinal co-written by Jürgen Mettepenningen, a former spokesman for Cardinal Danneels’ successor, Archbishop Andre Joseph Leonard, and Karim Schelkens, a Church historian and theologian, the cardinal expressed satisfaction over the disappearance of “discrimination” against LGBT couples after legislation was passed approving same-sex “marriage” in 2003.

The authors of the biography, to be published Sept. 29, reveal that the cardinal wrote a letter on May 28, 2003, to then-Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt, who at that time was putting together his second government. In the letter, the cardinal wrote favorably about “one of the last achievements of Verhofstadt’s first governments, the approval of a legal statute for a stable relationship between partners of the same sex.” Verhofstadt’s government introduced same sex-‘marriage’ into Belgium in 2003. “He wanted to stop discrimination between married heterosexuals and homosexuals who had a long-term relationship,” write the two authors of the biography. “But there should be no confusion between the use of the term ‘marriage’.” Asked about the letter, Verhofstadt said he did not recall it, but added: “I never had any problem with the cardinal. Our relationship was good.” Under Verhofstadt’s leadership, from 1999 to 2007, the Belgian government not only introduced same sex “marriage”, but also laws on euthanasia, experiments on human embryos, and IVF.

Despite the poor record of the Belgian Church in resisting these laws, and the country being far smaller than many African countries that have one delegate representing them, Cardinal Danneels, 82, will be one of three Belgian prelates to attend the synod in October. The Vatican listed him second in importance out of 45 delegates personally chosen by Pope Francis to participate in the upcoming meeting. He also took part in last year’s Extraordinary Synod as a papal delegate. At the launch of the book in Brussels this week, the cardinal said he was part of a secret club of cardinals opposed to Pope Benedict XVI. He called it a “mafia” club that bore the name of St. Gallen. The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, to make it “much more modern”, and for Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio to head it. The group, which also comprised Cardinal Walter Kasper and the late Jesuit Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, has been documented in Austen Ivereigh’s biography of Pope Francis, The Great Reformer.

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But it's got nothing to do with islam. Don't you dare call islamists terrorists you islamophobic racist!
Oh and you know, it is all just a fake and no one really died.
This is a staged event by the evil powers that be, I know because the you tube detectives have told me!
Those obnoxious Christians have only themselves to blame over their evil Zionist plans, even if they are disabled and celebrate the pagan Christmas abomination.




The religion of peace!

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Re: HADRAN CERN COLLIDER MISHAP

shiloh Today at 1:50 am
bobhardee wrote:


Shiloh:
Thank you.
I appreciate your explanation the current experiments at CERN.
Speaking solely for me, what they are doing there, is not an easy concept to grasp.
I am reminded that it is out of fear (of not understanding) false information is easily generated.
Thanks again.
Bob H.

The history of CERN and what they are doing there relates to the 1920's Bob. The birth of 'modern physics' as a continuation from the previous 'classical physics' as a 'natural philosophy' became 'revolutionised' by the formulations of the relativity theories and quantum mechanics as a deeper form of examining what atomic structure is. trying to understand the inner atom then led to experimental models of probing the small quantum scales with energy systems focused on ever decreasing scales of the volume or 'spacetime' under observation.
I have added a small piece of comparison about the recent CERN 'quark-gluon' plasma, namely that the size of the universe at this timeframe the LHC is trying to approach relates to the universe at that time being the size of a beach ball and about the size of a chimpanzee or a small human so 1.2 meters across; (Lightpath x=ct). If you take the 'sacred geometry' and the golden mean as 0.618033..meters as radius, then this scale encapsulate the 'cosmic human' aka Adam Kadmon aka Purusha aka Vitruvian Man aka you in a universal bubble.
So this cosmological timeline does in this way relate to the 'sacred geometry' of the nabsers in a rather direct astrophysical manner and here justifies their proposals in a basic way. The troubles start, when the nabsers then apply quackery science and including the 'electric universe' misappropriations from Alven and so on. But I do not wish to spoil your day.

Brook wrote:


CERN COLLIDER TURNS TO BLACKHOLE ON LIVE WEB CAM!!” VIDEO
FAKE...

Yes it's fake...created by Cyriak

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/

Welcome to my collection of creative brain-spillages.

There are animations, videos, comics and all sorts on this site, so have a look around. General links are up there, but there's also some handy quick links on the right to get to my moving stuff.

If you like what I do and want to hire my services then click here for my commercial showreel.

And do feel free to poke the old geezer strapped helplessly to the chair below, he loves it he does.

And here is the original footage/animation made at Cyriak for a laugh. Remember Cyriak is a collection of animations and moving stuff....

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

Put out on the interweb as rea for folks to flurry over.

From Cyriak...

Ok information except a lack of redefining the 'singularity' as a minimum spacetime configuration related to a 'string oscillation'.
The 'breakdown' of the laws of physics at the singularity is not an unknowable phenomana, but a higher dimensional hyperphysics.​

Connect a lower dimensional Black Hole 'Mother' to its higher dimensional White Hole 'Father' image mirror in an inflaton metric and you will find ET tachyon hyperphysics.

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Re: Egyptian Folklore II

shiloh Today at 3:10 am
Brook wrote:


Tony,


How's it going? I noticed an attempt to reason with the Savior flavor of the hour. Who grapples with code of ambiguity eh? Ambiguous wordplay which came first time around music videos, and now the BIG SCREEN.

La la lalala.....



Rollin' Blue baby! Did you know Peyo who created the Smurfs studied with another cartoonist, Maurice de Bevere.

Peyo decided to follow Maurice to the popular weekly comic "Spirou" in 1954

http://bluebuddies.com/help/smurfs_peyo_biography.htm

I did not know that! Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Got a question and excuse me for taking my time on that pdf but busy is my middle name this week after a weeks vacation.

Abba reference in the paper.

I understand the Alice-Bob reference but to what context are you using it? As I'm certain you're aware there can be several eh?

And second: Kristos

Kristos left me hanging as I'm not aware again of the context.

So if you could help me out there I'd be grateful.

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What I'm seeing in the parade of info dispersion here lately at the Mists is Shadow-self play at it finest.




Abba is or should be rather interesting to you, as it combines the anagram of the Egyptian Heart of the AB associated with the throne of Isis with the BA or soul of Bastet, the daughter of the Isis in the sistrum of the dances of the cats of Egypt.
When the Krystos (see more below), came to redeem old Jehovah, he knew he could no longer call upon the 'sacred tetragrammaton' of YHWH, because of missing symmetry and so he renamed YHWH's successor as Abba, the new father of all as the pentagrammaton and symmetric YHWHY aka YaHWHeY in the I Am That I AM! also being I AM THAT AM I? and as the "Why Oh Why?!" and changing the exclamation of the old lost creator memeplex into a question of the new redeemed creator energy thoughtform.

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The Krystos used to be an older label of the Hellenes also known as the ancient Greeks and just like 'Chief' Seattle can be used as the naming of Sitting Bull 'Chief' of the Lakota Sioux; so can the word 'chief' also mean Krystos or 'Jesus the Christ'.
This, btw is the reason as to why the 'symbol of the cross' is such an abomination to islamists, note I did not say muslims. The islamists are attempting to remove all 'associations' of Muhammad with the Krystos-Kristos-Christ-'Moshiah-'Anointed' honorific. (References are in the pdf).

The caliph Abd Al-Malik ibn Marwun from the 'New Arabia' found this label of the Krystos being used by the conquered folks in the occupied Byzantine lands and decided to use the 'Krystos' venerated as an old Christian 'chief' and renamed it in a new invented title of 'Muhammad' and in the process also using the 'chieftains' of the pharaohs from the other 'people of the book' of the older lexicons as the 'Mose' in the 'Mosiach' and Ahmose and Thutmosis and Rameses and so on from even earlier times and records kept.

Alice and Bob!? Well are you asking for it in detail? It has to do with firewalls and Black Holes and quantum entanglements.
Here is a pic for Alice as Brook as Jenetta, which relates to this.

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Alice and Bob Meet the Wall of Fire
How a new black hole paradox has set the physics world ablaze.

https://simonsfoundation.org/features/science-news/mathematics-and-physical-science/alice-and-bob-meet-the-wall-of-fire/

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Well yes, the 'Know It Smurfs' are what they are and not exactly attuned to the general ongoings in Smurfy Town.

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http://www.cosmosdawn.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-factuals-versus-the-oabs-old-age-bullshit.701/page-7#post-7438

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I see some "effort" of relationship here trying to happen, however, the Sleeping Giant is still asleep in "Stasis"... Hows about we wake some of us up shall we? and NOT with Coffee...




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How did my Path of the Sun get in Shiloh's quote? Hmmm.... time for a change!

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December 3, 2015

The Logic of Islamic Intolerance

By Raymond Ibrahim

A sermon delivered by popular Saudi Sheikh Muhammad Salih al-Munajjid clearly demonstrates why Western secular relativists and multiculturalists -- who currently dominate media, academia, and politics -- are incapable of understanding, much less responding to, the logic of Islamic intolerance.

During his sermon, al-Munajjid said that “some [Muslim] hypocrites” wonder why it is that “we [Muslims] don’t permit them [Western people] to build churches, even though they allow mosques to be built.” The Saudi sheikh responded by saying that any Muslim who thinks this way is “ignorant” and

…wants to equate between right and wrong, between Islam and kufr [non-Islam], monotheism and shirk [polytheism], and gives to each side equal weight, and wants to compare this with that, and he asks: “Why don't we build them churches like they build us mosques? So we allow them this in return for that?” Do you want another other than Allah to be worshiped? Do you equate between right and wrong? Are Zoroastrian fire temples, Jewish temples, Christian churches, monks’ monasteries, and Buddhist and Hindu temples, equal to you with the houses of Allah and mosques? So you compare this with that? And you equate this with that? Oh! Unbelievable, for he who equates between Islam and kufr [non-Islam], and Allah said: “Whoever desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted from him, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers” (Koran 3:85). And Prophet Muhamad said: “By Him in whose hand is the life of Muhamad (By Allah) he who amongst the Jews or Christians hears about me, but does not affirm his belief in that which I have been sent, and dies in his state (of disbelief), he shall be of the residents of Hellfire."

What’s interesting about the sheikh’s zealous diatribe is that, although “intolerant” from a Western perspective, it is, in fact, quite logically consistent and reveals the wide gap between Islamic rationalism and Western fantasy (despite how oxymoronic this dichotomy might sound).
If, as Munajjid points out, a Muslim truly believes that Islam is the only true religion, and that Muhammad is its prophet, why would he allow that which is false (and thus corrupt, cancerous, misleading, etc.) to exist alongside it? Such gestures of “tolerance” would be tantamount to a Muslim who “wants to equate between right and wrong,” as the sheikh correctly deplores.
Indeed, not only does Islam, like traditional Christianity, assert that all other religions are wrong, but under Islamic law, Hindus, and Buddhists are so misguided that they must be warred against until they either accept the “truth,” that is, converting to Islam, or else being executed (Koran 9:5). As for the so-called “people of the book” -- Jews and Christians -- they may practice their religions, but only after being subdued (Koran 9:29) and barred from building or renovating churches and synagogues and a host of other debilitations that keep their (false) religious practices and symbols (Bibles, crosses, etc.) suppressed and out of sight.

From an Islamic paradigm -- where Allah is the true god and Muhammad his final messenger -- “intolerance” for other religions is logical and difficult to condemn.
The “altruistic” aspect of Islamic “intolerance” is especially important. If you truly believe that there is only one religion that leads to paradise and averts damnation, is it not altruistic to share it with humanity, rather than hypocritically maintaining that all religions lead to God and truth?
After blasting the concept of interfaith dialogue as beyond futile, since “what is false is false -- even if a billion individuals agree to it; and truth is truth -- even if only one who has submitted [a Muslim] holds on to it,” the late Osama bin Laden once wrote that “Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion. And we consider this a justice and kindness to them” (The Al Qaeda Reader, pgs. 42-43).

Note the altruistic justification: It is a “justice and kindness” to wage jihad on non-Muslims in the hopes that they convert to Islam. According to this logic, jihadis will always be as the “good guys” -- meaning that terrorism, extortion, sex-jihad, etc., will continue to be rationalized away as ugly but necessary means to altruistic ends: the empowerment of, and eventual world conversion to, Islam.

All of this logic is alien to postmodern Western epistemology, which takes for granted that a) there are no objective “truths,” certainly not in the field of theology, and that b) religion’s ultimate purpose is to make this life as peaceful and pleasant as possible (hence why “interfaith dialogue” in the West is not about determining the truth -- which doesn’t exist anyway -- but finding and highlighting otherwise superficial commonalities between different religions so they can all get along in the now).

The net result of all this? On the one hand, Muslims, who believe in truth -- that is, in the teachings of Islam -- will continue attacking the “false,” that is, everything and everyone un-Islamic. And no matter how violent, Islamic jihad -- terrorism -- will always be exonerated in Muslim eyes as fundamentally “altruistic.” On the other hand, Western secularists and multiculturalists, who believe in nothing and deem all cultures and religions equal, will continue to respect Islam and empower Muslims, convinced that terrorism is an un-Islamic aberration destined to go away -- that is, they will continue disbelieving their own eyes. Such is the offspring of that unholy union between Islamic logic and Western fallacy.

Raymond Ibrahim, author of Crucified Again, is Shillman Fellow, David Horowitz Freedom Center, and Judith Friedman Rosen Fellow, Middle East Forum


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Sex Jihad and Western Disbelief

By Raymond Ibrahim on September 26, 2013 in From The Arab World, Islam

Human Events
The sex jihad is back in the news. Last Thursday, September 19, during an address to the National Constituent Assembly, Tunisian Interior Minister Lotfi Bin Jeddo announced that Tunisian girls who had traveled to Syria to perform “sex jihad” had returned after being sexually “swapped between 20, 30, and 100 rebels and they come back bearing the fruit of sexual contacts [from pregnancies to diseases] in the name of sexual jihad and we are silent doing nothing and standing idle.”

Sixteen-year-old Rahma: Her parents appeared in tears on TV bemoaning how she was “brainwashed” to join the sex jihad.​

Several video interviews with Tunisian females who went to the sex jihad further testify to the veracity of this phenomenon. For example, 19-year-old Lamia, upon returning, confessed how she was made to have sex with countless men—including Pakistanis, Afghanis, Libyans, Tunisians, Iraqis, Saudis, Somalis, and a Yemeni, all in the context of the “sex jihad,” and that she and many other women were abused, beaten, and forced to do things “that contradict all sense of human worth.” Now back in Tunisia, Lamia has been to a doctor finding that she is five months pregnant. Both she and her unborn are carrying the aids virus (read her whole story).

Other interviewed women have told of how they were “fooled,” or how their husbands (they being one of four wives) divorced and sent them to Syria for the sex jihad, with assurances that they would be guaranteed paradise in the afterlife. One 16-year-old explained how her father ordered her to have sex with several jihadi “liberators.”
Due to the severity of this matter, since March, 6,000 Tunisians were banned from travelling to Syria; 86 individuals suspected of forming “cells” to send Tunisian youth to Syria have been arrested.
Back in April, Sheikh Othman Battikh, former Mufti of Tunisia, said before reporters that, “For Jihad in Syria, they are now pushing girls to go there. Thirteen young girls have been sent for sexual jihad. What is this? This is called prostitution. It is moral educational corruption.”
He was dismissed from his position as Mufti of Tunisia days later.

However, as I wrote back in June when reporting on the sex jihad phenomenon:
Muslim women prostituting themselves in this case is being considered a legitimate jihad because such women are making sacrifices—their chastity, their dignity—in order to help apparently sexually-frustrated jihadis better focus on the war to empower Islam in Syria.
And it is prostitution—for they are promised payment, albeit in the afterlife. The Koran declares that “Allah has purchased of the believers their persons [their bodies] and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain (Yusuf Ali trans. 9:111).
At any rate, while news that Muslim girls in hijabs are prostituting themselves in the name of Islam may be instinctively dismissed as a “hoax,” the fact is, Islamic clerics regularly issue fatwas permitting forbidden, if not bizarre, things.

The fundamental criterion is that they help the jihad to empower Islam.
For instance, not only did the original “underwear bomber” Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri hide explosives in his rectum to assassinate Saudi Prince Muhammad bin Nayef—they met in 2009 after the 22-year-old Asiri “feigned repentance for his jihadi views”—but, according to Shi‘ite talk-show host Abdullah Al-Khallaf, he had fellow jihadis sodomize him to “widen” his anus to fit more explosives.
Al-Khallaf read the fatwa that purportedly justified such actions during a 2012 Fadak TV episode. After praising Allah and declaring that sodomy is forbidden in Islam, the fatwa asserted:
However, jihad comes first, for it is the pinnacle of Islam, and if the pinnacle of Islam can only be achieved through sodomy, then there is no wrong in it. For the overarching rule of [Islamic] jurisprudence asserts that “necessity makes permissible the prohibited.” And if obligatory matters can only be achieved by performing the prohibited, then it becomes obligatory to perform the prohibited, and there is no greater duty than jihad. After he sodomizes you, you must ask Allah for forgiveness and praise him all the more. And know that Allah will reward the jihadis on the Day of Resurrection, according to their intentions—and your intention, Allah willing, is for the victory of Islam, and we ask that Allah accept it of you.
Two important points emerge here: first, jihad is the “pinnacle” of Islam—for it makes Islam supreme; and second, the idea that “necessity makes permissible the prohibited.” Thus, because making Islam supreme through jihad is the greatest priority, anything and everything that is otherwise banned becomes permissible. All that comes to matter is one’s intention, or niyya (see Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi’s discussion along these lines).

Hence the many seeming contradictions in Islam: Muslim women must chastely be covered head-to-toe—yet, in the service of jihad, they are allowed to prostitute their bodies. Sodomy is forbidden—but permissible if rationalized as a way to kill infidels and/or apostates. Lying is forbidden—but permissible to empower Islam. Suicide is forbidden—but permissible during the jihad—when it is called “martyrdom.” Intentionally killing women and children is forbidden—but permissible during an Islamic jihad raid, as happened last weekend in both Peshawar and Nairobi.
One may therefore expect anything from would-be jihadis, regardless of how un-Islamic their actions may otherwise seem.
And yet, here in the West, many still refuse to believe the existence of such fatwas, habitually dismissing them as “hoaxes”—despite all the evidence otherwise: from a top Tunisian government official openly bemoaning the effects of the sex jihad on Tunisian girls, to several Arabic-language videos and reports of women discussing their experiences in the sex jihad.

Few things are more demonstrative of the arrogant mindset that proliferates amongst Western “progressives” than this inability to believe.

And it’s quite ironic: for while supposedly “closed-minded” and “bigoted” conservatives tend to take the words, teachings, and deeds of Muslim clerics and jihadis at face value—and thus respect them as autonomous individuals—liberals, who always claim to “respect other cultures,” often reject as “hoaxes” any news that contradicts their culturally-induced worldviews—since apparently everyone in the world shares in their standards.
If that’s not an ethnocentric position—an especially dangerous one at that—what is?

Brook wrote:

I do have this to add today however given the current state of affairs at 'home' and abroad;

Carl Jung on “Man’s Stupidity”



Our striving focused on sagacity and intellectual superiority, and we hence developed all our cleverness.

But the extraordinary extent of stupidity inherent in all men was disregarded and denied.

But if we accept the other in us, we also evoke the particular stupidity of our nature.

Stupidity is one of man's strange hobbyhorses.

There is something divine about it, and yet something of the megalomania of the world.

Which is why stupidity is really large.

It keeps away everything that could induce us to intelligence.

It leaves everything not understood which is not naturally supposed to demand understanding.

This particular stupidity occurs in thought and in life.

Somewhat deaf somewhat blind, it brings about necessary fate and keeps from us the virtuousness coupled with rationality.

It is what separates and isolates the mixed seeds of life, affording us thus with a clear view of good and evil, and of what is reasonable and what not.

But many people are logical in their lack of reason"



Page (P.487). ~Liber Novus, Page 316, Footnote 277.


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Footnote; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania

Megalomania is a psycho-pathological condition characterized by fantasies of power, relevance, omnipotence, and by inflated self-esteem. Historically it was used as a name for narcissistic personality disorder.

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meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a
ˌmeɡələˈmānēə/
noun
noun: megalomania

obsession with the exercise of power, especially in the domination of others.
synonyms: delusions of grandeur, folie de grandeur, thirst/lust for power; self-importance, egotism, conceit, conceitedness
"he's blinded by his own megalomania and quest for historic recognition at any cost"
delusion about one's own power or importance (typically as a symptom of manic or paranoid disorder).

Translate megalomania to
Use over time for: megalomania





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sav·ior
ˈsāvyər/
noun
noun: saviour; plural noun: saviours; noun: savior; plural noun: saviors

a person who saves someone or something (especially a country or cause) from danger, and who is regarded with the veneration of a religious figure.

Savior or Saviour may refer to:

a person who helps people achieve salvation, or saves them from something

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvation




Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!! See ya on the flip side

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Anyone for the Preservation of the Pyramids?
What really happened to the Arabian Springtimes in Egypt's Revolution 2011

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Egypt, 2012: The Year In Fatwas

By Raymond Ibrahim on January 30, 2013 in From The Arab World, Islam


Published on FrontPage Magazine

In previous decades in Egypt, the fatwas, or legal decrees issued by learned Muslims and based on Sharia law, revolved around questions like proper prayer, when and where women should wear the hijab, and if smoking was forbidden or permissible.
That was then.

The fatwas issued in the year 2012—the year when Islamists, spearheaded by the Muslim Brotherhood, assumed formal power—are, as one would expect, markedly different, that is, much less restrained. The popular Egyptian Arabic website El-Watan News recently compiled a list of 2012’s most “notable” (a euphemism) fatwas. I translate a summary of their findings below, augmented with additional observations:

Destruction of the Pyramids and Sphinx
In November, Sheikh Murjan Salem al-Jawhari, a Salafi leader, called for the destruction of all idols, relics, and statues in Egypt, specifically mentioning the Sphinx and the Great Pyramids. He called on Muslims to destroy such “idols” just as they destroyed the Buddha statues in Afghanistan. Of course, several months earlier, in July, I reported how several prominent Islamic clerics were calling on President Morsi to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As [the first Muslim invader of Egypt] could not.” Then and now, the MSM scoffed at the very idea, portraying it as a “hoax.” To date, reports from Egypt confirm that “some of the statues have already been destroyed by those belonging to the political Islamist parties.”

Marrying Minors (i.e., Pedophilia)
Dr. Yassir al-Burhami, Vice President of the Salafi Da‘wa movement, and thus an authoritative figure among Egypt’s Salafis, who are playing a prominent role in the nation’s new parliament, opposed setting a minimum age in the new constitution concerning the marriage of minor girls, saying “they can get married at any time,” and insisting that Sharia law is clear on this matter. Indeed, earlier, another cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council, after saying that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle,” explained the fundamental criterion of when they can copulate: whenever “they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the men,” which has less to do with age and more to do with individual capacity.

Permitting Lies and Hypocrisy
Dr. Yassir al-Burhami also permitted wives to “lie to their husbands” about their whereabouts—if they were going to go and vote “yes” on the Sharia-heavy constitution in Egypt, and if their husbands would otherwise have disapproved. The ever-expedient Salafi leader also permitted Egypt to borrow money from the IMF, rationalizing the “forbidden” interest rate away as “administrative charges.” (Islam forbids Muslim participation in monetary loans that charge interest, as does the IMF.)

Scrapping Camp David Accords
Sheikh Hashem Islam, member of the Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, said that the peace treaty with Israel contradicts the teachings of Sharia and should be annulled, quoting the Koran: “So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds” (47:35). He added that “Jews cannot be trusted.” The Islamic logic he and others use is that peace treaties with infidels are legitimate only when Muslims are weak and in need, whereas now that Egypt is under proper Muslim leadership, Allah will help it to defeat Israel.

Killing Anyone Protesting Islamization of Egypt
Sheikh Hashem Islam also permitted the killing of anti-Islamization protesters, portraying them as traitors committing “high treason.” The Sheikh also exempted the murderers from having to pay the restitution required by Sharia to a Muslim victim’s family. Sheikh Wagdi Ghoneim issued a similar fatwa, proclaiming any Muslim who rejects the Sharia-heavy constitution of being an apostate who must be fought and killed.

Obeying President Morsi
Sheikh Ahmed Mahlawi, the leader of an Alexandrian mosque, denounced all Muslims opposed to President Morsi, pointing out that the Koran declares it to be forbidden to disobey those in authority: “Obey Allah and obey the Messenger [Muhammad] and those in authority among you” (4:59). He added that Morsi should be obeyed whether he was elected or not—as long as he enforces the laws of Allah. In fact, according to Sharia, the Islamic ruler must always be obeyed—except whenever he fails to enforce Sharia.

Banning Greeting Christians
The Committee for Rights and Reform issued a Fatwa against congratulating Christian Copts on their religious holidays, notably Christmas and Easter, since Muslims do not share the beliefs specific to those holidays. As for the ever-reliable Salafi Sheikh Burhami, he further forbade Muslim cab and bus drivers from transporting Christian priests to their churches, which he depicted as “more forbidden than taking someone to a liquor bar.”

Banning Saluting the Egyptian Flag
Abd al-Akhir Hamad, the mufti of the notorious Gama’a Islamiya (Islamic Group), denounced and forbade the saluting of the flag and the Egyptian national anthem, saying that doing so glorifies that which is other than Allah—not to mention music is simply “haram,” that is, forbidden. Dar Al-Ifta’ issued a counter-fatwa to allow for saluting the flag and standing up for the national anthem.

Banning TV Shows Mocking Political Islamists
A fatwa banning TV viewers from watching the very popular shows of Bassem Yusif, who routinely mocks Egypt’s Islamists and their fatwas, appeared and was originally attributed to Dar Al-Ifta’, though it later denied issuing it.

Banning Marriage to Mubarak-Regime “Remnants”
Sheik Omar Stouhi, Secretary General of the Supreme Committee for Islamic Da‘wa at Al-Azhar, forbade all Muslim women from marrying any of the sons of the “remnants” of the old regimes, portraying them as non-pious Muslims.

Banning Joining the Dustor Political Party
Sheikh Muhammad Nazmi issued a ban on people from joining Egypt’s Dustor political party, headed by Dr. Muhammad al-Baradei, saying that the latter is a secularist and opposed to the implementation of Allah’s laws.


The Jihad on Egypt’s Pharaonic Antiquities

By Raymond Ibrahim on November 14, 2012 in From The Arab World



Published on Jihad Watch
While Islamic hate for idols is a well documented phenomenon—permeating both the whole of Islamic doctrine and history—the “Arab Spring” has given greater rise to this hate, as it has to all uniquely Islamic phenomena.


Sheikh Badri calls for the demolition of Egypt’s pre-Islamic past


Soon after Muslim Brotherhood leader Muhammad Morsi became president of Egypt, calls to demolish the Great Pyramids—long seen as the ultimate in idol effrontery to Islamic sensibilities—began. When I reported this, and documented the long paper-trail of Muslims, beginning with their prophet, destroying the antiquities of their pagan ancestors, the apologists, including at Huffington Post and New York Times cried “hoax,” to lull the world back to sleep.

Yet the cries to destroy Egypt’s Pharonic—that is, pagan—past continue. According to a Watan report, Sheikh Yusif al-Badri, a popular preacher, recently declared that “Allah created people to worship him, but demons misled them to worship other creatures in his place.”

Accordingly, Sheikh al-Badri is calling for “the demolition of monuments [e.g., pyramids] and all idols and statues in Egypt,” characterizing it as “a religious duty, lest they [monuments and idols] create sedition, and cause people to return to worshiping idols instead of Allah.” Likewise, he pointed to the fact that “the noble prophet [Muhammad] ordered the destruction of idols and statues [when he conquered Mecca] lest they be glorified for worship instead of Allah.”

The report continues by quoting various other Islamic figures, including from the Muslim Brotherhood, who all agree that any idol that has the potential to awe Muslims “instead of Allah” must be destroyed, though some argue that the antiquities of Egypt do not inspire Muslims to worship them and help the nation’s economy, and thus should be spared.

Even so, the Watan report concludes by saying that, according to Egypt’s Minister of Antiquities “some of the statues have already been destroyed by those belonging to the political Islamist parties.”


Islamic State: Militants blow up tower tombs at Syria's Palmyra, antiquities chief says

Updated 5 Sep 2015, 9:10amSat 5 Sep 2015, 9:10am

Photo: An antiquities expert says the celebrated Tower of Elahbel was one of the tombs destroyed by Islamic State. (Supplied: Wikimedia Commons)
Related Story: Satellite images confirm destruction of Palmyra's Temple of Bel: UN
Related Story: Historic Temple of Bel damaged by Islamic State militants

Map: Syrian Arab Republic
Jihadists of the Islamic State group have blown up three of the famed tower tombs of Syria's ancient desert city of Palmyra, the country's antiquities chief says.
"They blew up three tower tombs, the best preserved and most beautiful," Maamoun Abdelkarim said.
News of the destruction at the world-renowned site, captured by the jihadists in May, follows their demolition of the ancient shrine of Baal Shamin and the 2,000-year-old Temple of Bel.
"We received reports 10 days ago but we've just confirmed the news," Mr Abdelkarim said.
"We obtained satellite images from the US-based Syrian Heritage Initiative, taken on September 2."
He said the tombs destroyed by IS included the most celebrated — the Tower of Elahbel.
The whole of Palmyra, including the four cemeteries outside the walls of the ancient city, has been listed as a world heritage site by UNESCO since 1980.
In its listing, the UN agency singles out the tower tombs as the "oldest and most distinctive" of Palmyra's funerary moments — "tall multi-storey sandstone buildings belonging to the richest families".
"On the fronts of those that survive, foremost among them the Tower of Elahbel, there is an arch with sarcophagus halfway up, which in ancient times supported a reclining statue," it said.
"Corridors and rooms were subdivided by vertical bays of loculi [niches for dead] closed by slabs of stone carved with the image of the deceased and painted in lively colours."


What is Palmyra?

• UNESCO describes Palmyra as a heritage site of "outstanding universal value"
• Palmyra first entered recorded history in the early second millennium BC as a caravan stop for travellers
• The ancient city stood on a caravan route at the crossroads of several civilisations; the place where the ancient Greek and Roman worlds met the ancient Persian and Parthian worlds on the Silk Road
• Its first and second century temples and colonnaded streets mark a unique blend of Graeco-Roman and Persian influences
• It is strategically important, placed in the centre of the Syrian desert, and is the crossroads for roads going to Jordan, Iraq, and Damascus.

Mr Abdulkarim said the Tower of Jambalik, built in 83AD, was also destroyed along with the Tower of Ketout built in 44AD and famed for vivid scenes etched into its walls.
He said the tower tombs were symbols of the economic boom of Palmyra in the 1st century AD when it dominated the caravan trade between east and west from its oasis in the desert.
Some of Palmyra's monuments still remain intact, including its grand amphitheatre and the Temple of Nabu.
The amphitheatre has instead been exploited by IS to parade its brutal version of Islamic justice since it captured the city in May.
In one macabre display, child recruits executed 25 Syrian soldiers on the stage.


Jihadists keen to sell artefacts on black market

According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group, IS addressed a letter to Palmyra's residents promising further destruction.
Gruesome violence and the destruction of priceless artefacts have become hallmarks of IS as it has expanded its so-called caliphate straddling Iraq and Syria.
The Sunni extremist group considers pre-Islamic monuments, tombs and statues to be idolatrous and worthy of destruction.
But experts say that while the jihadists prize the shock value of demolishing ancient sites, they are also keen to preserve some artefacts to sell on the black market to raise funds.
According to Cheikhmous Ali of the Association for the Protection of Syrian Archaeology, upwards of 900 monuments and archaeological sites have been damaged or destroyed during more than four years of civil war.
In addition to damaging sites in Syria, IS has also carried out widespread destruction in neighbouring Iraq, demolishing statues, shrines and manuscripts in second city Mosul, and razing the ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud.
AFP


Raymond Ibrahim is a Middle East and Islam specialist and author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam’s New War on Christians (2013) and The Al Qaeda Reader (2007).
His writings have appeared in a variety of media, including the Los Angeles Times, Washington Times, Jane’s Islamic Affairs Analyst, Middle East Quarterly, World Almanac of Islamism, and Chronicle of Higher Education; he has appeared on MSNBC, Fox News, C-SPAN, PBS, Reuters, Al-Jazeera, NPR, Blaze TV, and CBN.
Ibrahim regularly speaks publicly, briefs governmental agencies, provides expert testimony for Islam-related lawsuits, and testifies before Congress.
He is a Shillman Fellow, David Horowitz Freedom Center; a CBN News contributor; a Media Fellow, Hoover Institution (2013); and a Judith Friedman Rosen Writing Fellow, Middle East Forum .
Ibrahim’s dual-background -- born and raised in the U.S. by Coptic Egyptian parents born and raised in the Middle East -- has provided him with unique advantages, from equal fluency in English and Arabic, to an equal understanding of the Western and Middle Eastern mindsets, positioning him to explain the latter to the former.

http://www.raymondibrahim.com/category/islam/

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• Post n°84

Re: Egyptian Folklore II

Brook Yesterday at 5:15 pm

Abba...Got it...I'll continue reading tomorrow as work calls today. But I will share something I shared on this thread earlier on.

Peripheral ~ Surface ~ Sensor

The peripheral surface of a black hole is an Event Horizon.

If you fall into the black hole you will get crushed.

Egyptian: Second death.

If approached from the inner horizon or the axis of the black hole or the north
pole, the gravitational repulsion of the central singularity slows the entity
down, turning it around, and accelerating it back out through the inner horizon of a
white hole. Put simply, the space axis and time axis exchange places when one crosses
the outer event horizon, and the future becomes an unavoidable place in
time or the crushing singularity. Crossing the inner event horizon, time and space resume their normal axes, making the singularity an avoidable place in space, while allowing access to the past singularity of the white hole. Ultimately, one goes through four horizons

~
Egyptians referred to as the opening of mouths four times. The Opening of the
Mouth ceremony parallels the movement of the Deceased through four horizons.


According to scientific speculations, inside a spinning black hole, the act
of looking backward would allow one to see a white hole or the past singularity.
Since a white hole is a black hole running backward in time, the Negative
Confession of the Book of the Dead describes deities:

"Who come forth backwards".

"He whose Face is behind him who came forth from his hole".

The inner horizon, radiation is blueshifted as it accumulates.

Field of Turquoise and the Blue One, Lake of Turquoise,
traveling with turquoise, Lord of Turquoise, and open door of the blue sky.

Indicates blueshift or the high frequency light associated with
approaching radiation.

In contrast, radiation moving away from the observer appears redshifted.
The Dead King observes:

he who departs is red and smeared

"N" has gone up in the red hour.
(N State described in video below starting at 1:16)

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According to Holographic principal: All Information about the black hole is stored on the horizon....The peripheral!

Particles living on the horizon boundary describe objects in the interior.


Now here I am reviewing a scroll in a room by a supposed ancient culture with nine universal principals written on it.

If what I have just proposed is correct then this ancient culture must certainly KNOW the landscape of space and time with great detail to know the redshift and blueshift attributes.

Dead Kings escapes the black hole Netherworld associated with
uraei shedding "light by means of their radiance (which cometh) from their mouths"

or uraei pouring fire from their mouths:

The mouths of a wormhole are analogous to the holes at either end of the tube in a 2D plane...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole

a quantum parallel exists between the transformed Deceased and Hawking radiance in the bulk, proposing the existence of large extra dimensions in small black holes.

The Dead King is a horizon dweller: has a
seat in the horizon, and takes possession of the horizon

so that those who are in the horizon may live for this spirit

"My power is in the horizon"

~The Ancient Egyptian Coffin Texts - R.O. Faulkner ~


Peripheral ~ Sensor ~ Surface

Peripheral: Of, relating to, or situated on the edge or periphery of something.

Redefining the Horizon

(Firewall debate)





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Hi Deb,



Today....Coffee is all I've got right now.


Tomorrow is another day and time is on my side.

Give em enough rope they usually hang their little blue butts

Good things come to those who wait...






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Hijacked Mentalities and Agendas of Agendas
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[3:11:17 PM-December 5th, 2015 -+11UCT] Kali 666: many people vent on the web
[3:11:37 PM] ShilohaPlace: Why her hatred for the 'Lord' is her hijack and actual 'loss of mind'
[3:11:48 PM] Kali 666: they vent whatever is unresolved in them
[3:12:10 PM] ShilohaPlace: And psychological analysis will help her or anyone here?
[3:12:13 PM] Kali 666: you can see what their issue is just by what they vent about
[3:12:19 PM] ShilohaPlace: Its too late
[3:12:35 PM] Kali 666: oh i agree
[3:12:39 PM] ShilohaPlace: Of course but again you are going personal etc
[3:12:47 PM] ShilohaPlace: This is NOT the game now
[3:12:55 PM] Kali 666: but isn't it also too late to try to convince anyone of any religion that their religion is not the way?
[3:13:17 PM] ShilohaPlace: The 'game' now is simply who can affiliate with the truth of the higher D and who can not. Yes too late but as said the thing is to 'CHOOSE sides' - OW versus NW.
And not 1% can even begin to 'choose'.
[3:14:18 PM] Kali 666: only if they can even differentiate these worlds to begin with that is
[3:14:23 PM] ShilohaPlace: As said. Its basically hopeless. The memeplexes are too powerful now to create a groupmind fully able to counter the OW BS
[3:15:05 PM] Kali 666: people, generally, are very comfortable in their prison world they seek calm and effortless things
[3:15:20 PM] ShilohaPlace: Generalisation yes and true but again sentiments like this will achieve nothing concrete
[3:15:44 PM] Kali 666: they seek and only appreciate peace which they associate with NON-action; so when faced with someone or something telling them to take action, even if it is to choose, their final destiny...they will not move or they will choose the easiest route, what is familiar to them, what they have known their whole lives
[3:17:13 PM] ShilohaPlace: They might agree or disagree and try to save face defending their opinions
[3:17:22 PM] Kali 666: and if what they have known their whole lifes is islam.....
[3:18:04 PM] ShilohaPlace: Then ONLY a direct outcome of the memewar will convince them of anything and allow them to change their minds
[3:18:28 PM] Kali 666: something miraculous yes
[3:18:28 PM] ShilohaPlace: This is precisly described in Isaiah etc. No not miraculous but very powerful and witnessable yes. Like ETs
[3:19:21 PM] Kali 666: with miraculous i mean very powerful ofc...just add the quotations
[3:19:26 PM] ShilohaPlace: So again if and when IS uses nukes etc, what becomes possible? MAD
[3:19:50 PM] Kali 666: who will give them the nukes?
[3:19:52 PM] ShilohaPlace: Perhaps only then will ET ships appear
[3:20:00 PM] Kali 666: why not adddress that at its source first?
[3:20:02 PM] ShilohaPlace: Pakistan for one
[3:20:06 PM] Kali 666: like Russia is doing
[3:20:23 PM] ShilohaPlace: Yes Russia is the least brainwashed admin
[3:20:32 PM] ShilohaPlace: Turkey is bad news
[3:20:35 PM] Kali 666: [3:20 PM] Kali 666:

<<< who will give them the nukes?

[3:20:41 PM] Kali 666: who will provide them the nukes?

[3:20:53 PM] ShilohaPlace: [3:20 PM] ShilohaPlace:

<<< Pakistan for one

[3:21:20 PM] ShilohaPlace: USA is buying Pakistani 'assurances' of not giving nukes to islamists for money.
Pure blackmail
[3:21:41 PM] Kali 666: crazy mothers..
[3:22:12 PM] ShilohaPlace: Iran is in between atm as they are still aligned with Russia in political terms and Iran is 10% Sunni is so 90% in an intraislamist war
[3:22:51 PM] ShilohaPlace: But should IS get stronger with Saudi help, then eventually Iran will side with the Sunnis and not Russia in a 'muslim brotherhood'. This IS politics atm.
[3:23:14 PM] Kali 666: Insanity
[3:23:21 PM] ShilohaPlace: Russia knows what is going on better than the west. The west is trapped in its own lies to the people
[3:23:36 PM] Kali 666: they can totally destroy the planet and they care not one iota
[3:23:56 PM] ShilohaPlace: Pakistan is one of the 'crown jewels' of islam. India is Hindu and Pakistan is muslim and both have nukes
[3:24:33 PM] Kali 666: not nearly as many as Israel does
[3:24:58 PM] ShilohaPlace: You dont hear in the schools that islamists killed 4-5 times as many hindus as Stalin and Hitler did
[3:25:01 PM] Kali 666: i think i've seen the graph once
[3:25:18 PM] ShilohaPlace: Israel is caught in an existential warzone
[3:25:28 PM] Kali 666: poor little Israelis - lol
[3:25:43 PM] ShilohaPlace: Islam MUST destroy all Israel and no 2-state solution will ever be possible
[3:25:52 PM] ShilohaPlace: Facts; Jordan is Palestine dont you get this?
[3:26:10 PM] Kali 666: sadly yes i also think this two state is already a thing of the past
[3:26:19 PM] ShilohaPlace: It has always been
[3:26:30 PM] Kali 666: i had a Jordanian fiance once. I know exactly what Jordan is, i was this close to go live there
[3:27:08 PM] ShilohaPlace: Well yes there are muslims who would rather be xtians or secular or atheists, but this IS the personal muslim like Zia see? I never had issues with that.
[3:27:33 PM] Kali 666: she blocked me ; she thinks i am also a muslim hater sighs
[3:28:03 PM] ShilohaPlace: But memeplexes are growing and since June 2014 this memeplex cannot be destroyed or made dysfunctional from say human grassrooted means
[3:28:11 PM] ShilohaPlace: This the west fails to even consider. I am no muslim hater.
[3:28:27 PM] Kali 666: well we knew it had to polarize to the max and what exactly this max is, is yet to be seen
[3:28:59 PM] ShilohaPlace: I am no islam hater either, but know what must be done to make the islam thoughtform powerless. You must EAT it
[3:29:20 PM] Kali 666: at the individual level
[3:29:26 PM] ShilohaPlace: And I know how this can be done. All levels
[3:29:43 PM] Kali 666: on a group level too? how?
[3:29:59 PM] ShilohaPlace: Intent is multidimensional, but I cannot really talk about this but give you a hint
[3:30:53 PM] Kali 666: why not?
[3:30:56 PM] ShilohaPlace: There is one kind of energy which feeds islam, which is omni-OW and so shared by all humans'
[3:32:14 PM] Kali 666: which is?
[3:34:27 PM] ShilohaPlace: It cannot be shared in the timeline as it is affiliated with it in a way
[3:34:55 PM] ShilohaPlace: It has to do with this code;

Daniel 11:36-38 - King James Version (KJV)
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

<<< 37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Try to figure out what this DENIED 'desire of women' might be and you can construct the secret agenda of the higher D. See that is does not say: "He has NO desire for women!"
But that he (or it) denies women having desires
Solving or resetting this code not on earth, but in the ET world will in fact become a major 'weapon' in the memewar
[3:41:05 PM] Kali 666: yes i agree, but this is an individual undertaking
[3:41:31 PM] ShilohaPlace: It is a Logos undertaking Xeia. Only Logos can empower the INTENT
[3:41:42 PM] Kali 666: yes it is, but it is done through men
[3:41:54 PM] ShilohaPlace: But this INTENT then must be clear as day
[3:41:58 PM] Kali 666: mankind
[3:41:59 PM] ShilohaPlace: No, never mind
[3:42:18 PM] ShilohaPlace: Juju I think knows what the secret is
[3:42:41 PM] Kali 666: so Logos does not act through man?
[3:42:55 PM] ShilohaPlace: The key is desire of women denied, this is a 'meme crime' against the universe
[3:43:14 PM] ShilohaPlace: It is good you don't understand this dear and dont worry about it
[3:43:53 PM] Kali 666: it is good i don't understand it?
[3:43:59 PM] ShilohaPlace: Yes
[3:44:05 PM] Kali 666: how so?

[3:44:08 PM] Sirius 17:
<<< The west does NOT believe in any reality besides the secular and therefore does not take islam serious. They do believe on the other hand in multiculturalism as professed to them by people in high places such as the media, university classes designed to create 'tolerance' and acceptance of the so called various cultures and 'relgious' attire and beliefs, as well as pressure from academia to the same 'acceptance' and tolerance all in the name of a happy and healthy multicultural society, blah blah blah.

[3:44:49 PM] ShilohaPlace: Yes its all a lie of the unbelievers; islam is rather true to itself.
And the west cannot understand that this is truthful and not some religious aberration and nonsense.
I gave you the code and my recent posts point to it too. This ex hamas convert also describes it someplace in this 'weird' to western unbelievers' mindsets.

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[3:47:14 PM] ShilohaPlace:
View: https://youtu.be/RQ8C-qe3qSM

[3:47:31 PM] ShilohaPlace: So dont ask Rok to watch it, highly recommended for Raven though
[3:51:09 PM] Kali 666: Palestinians want to destroy the west?
[3:51:22 PM] ShilohaPlace: Yes. Starting with Israel
[3:51:47 PM] Kali 666: omg this guy
[3:51:54 PM] ShilohaPlace: Palestinians aka islamist palestinians of course; he is ex hamas
[3:52:33 PM] ShilohaPlace: As said you are safe in your mindset dismissing people like that
[3:53:04 PM] ShilohaPlace: I have worked on the timelines since 2009 and so fully understand what he is addressing and where he is 'off'. Well he is not 'off' by much in anything he says. It's my 'subject matter' iow
[3:53:50 PM] Kali 666: he is wrong about Palestinians
[3:53:54 PM] ShilohaPlace: No, You are! Ask yourself?
Why did Morsi succeed to end the last interfada and not any of the UN 'peacemakers'. Why did Morsi become the 'peacemaker'? It was worldwide news.

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Anyone for the Preservation of the Pyramids?
What really happened to the Arabian Springtimes in Egypt's Revolution 2011

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Egypt, 2012: The Year In Fatwas

By Raymond Ibrahim on January 30, 2013 in From The Arab World, Islam


Published on FrontPage Magazine

In previous decades in Egypt, the fatwas, or legal decrees issued by learned Muslims and based on Sharia law, revolved around questions like proper prayer, when and where women should wear the hijab, and if smoking was forbidden or permissible.
That was then.

The fatwas issued in the year 2012—the year when Islamists, spearheaded by the Muslim Brotherhood, assumed formal power—are, as one would expect, markedly different, that is, much less restrained. The popular Egyptian Arabic website El-Watan News recently compiled a list of 2012’s most “notable” (a euphemism) fatwas. I translate a summary of their findings below, augmented with additional observations:

Destruction of the Pyramids and Sphinx
In November, Sheikh Murjan Salem al-Jawhari, a Salafi leader, called for the destruction of all idols, relics, and statues in Egypt, specifically mentioning the Sphinx and the Great Pyramids. He called on Muslims to destroy such “idols” just as they destroyed the Buddha statues in Afghanistan. Of course, several months earlier, in July, I reported how several prominent Islamic clerics were calling on President Morsi to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As [the first Muslim invader of Egypt] could not.” Then and now, the MSM scoffed at the very idea, portraying it as a “hoax.” To date, reports from Egypt confirm that “some of the statues have already been destroyed by those belonging to the political Islamist parties.”

Marrying Minors (i.e., Pedophilia)
Dr. Yassir al-Burhami, Vice President of the Salafi Da‘wa movement, and thus an authoritative figure among Egypt’s Salafis, who are playing a prominent role in the nation’s new parliament, opposed setting a minimum age in the new constitution concerning the marriage of minor girls, saying “they can get married at any time,” and insisting that Sharia law is clear on this matter. Indeed, earlier, another cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council, after saying that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle,” explained the fundamental criterion of when they can copulate: whenever “they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the men,” which has less to do with age and more to do with individual capacity.

Permitting Lies and Hypocrisy
Dr. Yassir al-Burhami also permitted wives to “lie to their husbands” about their whereabouts—if they were going to go and vote “yes” on the Sharia-heavy constitution in Egypt, and if their husbands would otherwise have disapproved. The ever-expedient Salafi leader also permitted Egypt to borrow money from the IMF, rationalizing the “forbidden” interest rate away as “administrative charges.” (Islam forbids Muslim participation in monetary loans that charge interest, as does the IMF.)

Scrapping Camp David Accords
Sheikh Hashem Islam, member of the Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, said that the peace treaty with Israel contradicts the teachings of Sharia and should be annulled, quoting the Koran: “So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds” (47:35). He added that “Jews cannot be trusted.” The Islamic logic he and others use is that peace treaties with infidels are legitimate only when Muslims are weak and in need, whereas now that Egypt is under proper Muslim leadership, Allah will help it to defeat Israel.

Killing Anyone Protesting Islamization of Egypt
Sheikh Hashem Islam also permitted the killing of anti-Islamization protesters, portraying them as traitors committing “high treason.” The Sheikh also exempted the murderers from having to pay the restitution required by Sharia to a Muslim victim’s family. Sheikh Wagdi Ghoneim issued a similar fatwa, proclaiming any Muslim who rejects the Sharia-heavy constitution of being an apostate who must be fought and killed.

Obeying President Morsi
Sheikh Ahmed Mahlawi, the leader of an Alexandrian mosque, denounced all Muslims opposed to President Morsi, pointing out that the Koran declares it to be forbidden to disobey those in authority: “Obey Allah and obey the Messenger [Muhammad] and those in authority among you” (4:59). He added that Morsi should be obeyed whether he was elected or not—as long as he enforces the laws of Allah. In fact, according to Sharia, the Islamic ruler must always be obeyed—except whenever he fails to enforce Sharia.

Banning Greeting Christians
The Committee for Rights and Reform issued a Fatwa against congratulating Christian Copts on their religious holidays, notably Christmas and Easter, since Muslims do not share the beliefs specific to those holidays. As for the ever-reliable Salafi Sheikh Burhami, he further forbade Muslim cab and bus drivers from transporting Christian priests to their churches, which he depicted as “more forbidden than taking someone to a liquor bar.”

Banning Saluting the Egyptian Flag
Abd al-Akhir Hamad, the mufti of the notorious Gama’a Islamiya (Islamic Group), denounced and forbade the saluting of the flag and the Egyptian national anthem, saying that doing so glorifies that which is other than Allah—not to mention music is simply “haram,” that is, forbidden. Dar Al-Ifta’ issued a counter-fatwa to allow for saluting the flag and standing up for the national anthem.

Banning TV Shows Mocking Political Islamists
A fatwa banning TV viewers from watching the very popular shows of Bassem Yusif, who routinely mocks Egypt’s Islamists and their fatwas, appeared and was originally attributed to Dar Al-Ifta’, though it later denied issuing it.

Banning Marriage to Mubarak-Regime “Remnants”
Sheik Omar Stouhi, Secretary General of the Supreme Committee for Islamic Da‘wa at Al-Azhar, forbade all Muslim women from marrying any of the sons of the “remnants” of the old regimes, portraying them as non-pious Muslims.

Banning Joining the Dustor Political Party
Sheikh Muhammad Nazmi issued a ban on people from joining Egypt’s Dustor political party, headed by Dr. Muhammad al-Baradei, saying that the latter is a secularist and opposed to the implementation of Allah’s laws.

[4:24:36 PM] ShilohaPlace: As a comparison as how easy it is to mix bs with facts even using religious misreadings look at this:

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[4:24:42 PM] ShilohaPlace:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFCQvvXSwx4

[4:25:08 PM] ShilohaPlace: Now much of this is actually true, but the overall messages completely misses in making Obama more than he is. So the human aspects of Obama are all basic truths, AND he fulfils 'codes' but focusing on the persona misses and deceives the same people who seek to expose and to inform
So again there is a 'game' behind the game and the nabsers and the admins of the world don't know and neither does some secret ptb or illuminati 'know'
Sirius 17
Kali 666

 

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• Post n°14

Re: HADRAN CERN COLLIDER MISHAP

shiloh Today at 12:39 pm
bobhardee wrote:

12/4/2015
http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/December-3-2015/

Bob H


I don't even know where to start with all that nonsense Bob.

For once 'his' references are all basically 'good science' and I suspect he uses the credibility of those links to somehow justify his drivel.

Dark Matter Conspiracy: http://www.keckobservatory.org/recent/entry/the_dark_matter_conspiracy
Short Circuit: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32038186
CERN Meltdown: http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080922/full/455436a.html
BICEP Blunder: http://www.nature.com/news/big-bang-blunder-bursts-the-multiverse-bubble-1.15346 AND
http://www.thephysicsmill.com/2015/02/01/bicep2-result-just-dust-thats-okay/ AND
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=6865

I know my science and find his arguments rather incohesive and 'silly'.

He begins to invoke the inverse cube law to somehow link the magnetic confinement physics of particle colliders with the earth's magnetic field. As the quote below shows the force is inverse square and not inverse cubed.
If you apply vector mathematics the representation can read like vector r/r³, which of course becomes 1/r² as inverse square and what is seen on the web as inverse cubed magnetics engages 'dipoles' in some limiting cases.

The earth's magnetic field has a number of causes; one is the dynamics of the core-mantle-crust differentiation of a rotating celestial body and this is an active field of research.
The second is more 'speculative' but still 'good science' such as the gravitoelectric and gravitomagnetic effects of rotating massive bodies.


"The inverse square law applies even in real world applications where the magnet is sufficiently asymmetrical to represent a "virtual" monopole. Here is a link to an experiment which proves this assertion. The "bar magnet" in this experiment had an aspect ratio of over 100:1
http://www.u-picardie.fr/~dellis/Documents/PhysicsEducation/general rule for the variation of.pdf (seems to be a broken link)

I would surmise that in dipole magnets that are more symmetrical, the opposite pole is close enough to have a substantial influence on the overall net readings such as to reduce the field strength much more radically as the distance increases than with longer more asymmetric magnets where the opposite pole is at rather great distance . . . Unfortunately most physics sources (wrongly) simply throw out the dogma that magnetic field with increasing distance is the inverse cube - - when it is not when extreme aspect ratios are encountered. This is an important distinction.

A "monopole" field goes like 1/r². Magnetic monopoles don't actually exist as far as we know to date, but some situations can produce a field which is approximately a monopole field over a limited region. For example, if you have a long bar magnet and you stay close to one pole. A "dipole" field goes like 1/r³. This is what you get from a current loop or a bar magnet, when you get far enough away that it appears "small."

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/magnetic-force-inverse-cubed-law.587204/

The inverse cube law is complete nonsense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism

There would be an inverse square law for magnetic monopoles, but these don't exist as far as we know. A magnetic dipole produces a field that follows an inverse cube law. see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_between_magnets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_moment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_magnet





The earth's magnetic field has a number of causes; one is the dynamics of the core-mantle-crust differentiation of a rotating celestial body and this is an active field of research.
The second is more 'speculative' but still 'good science' such as the gravitoelectric and gravitomagnetic effects of rotating massive bodies.
But the main thing with the magnetics of CERN is that the magnetic fields are CONFINED IN THE RINGS and do not at all manifest as some scale relationship with geographical distances and areas.

This presenter does not know the science of CERN, even at a basic level and uses any self-criticism of the ordinary sciences in 'respectable sources' like 'nature' and more popular magazines say like 'astronomy magazines' or even bbc science channels to support his crackpot ideas, which are simply intended to discredit real science as some conspiracy theory.
As you can see in the Greer video I shared, the 'real science' is valid and real enough, but there is 'more real science' which is suppressed and not even known to the accredited and 'real' scientists in labs and universities.
I said it before, your heart is at the right place, but your readiness to accept the ubiquitous nonsense described as 'alternative science' on the www should be addressed - by yourself. You should begin to become a little suspicious about suspicious observers and question their motivations of doing what they are doing.

The 'hidden magnetic science' say which Steven Greer addresses is found in this treatise of the electromagnetic-gravitational unification known by the real not manmade ETs.

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NY Times: “Non-Muslim extremists” more lethal than jihadis

December 5, 2015 9:02 am By Robert Spencer 139 Comments


This graph appears in the New York Times story “What Investigators Know About the San Bernardino Shooting,” December 4, 2015:

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The entire purpose of this graph, and of the survey it illustrates, is to downplay the Islamic jihad threat. For some unknown reason, the New York Times and the rest of the mainstream media have made one of their chief aims the exoneration of Islam. Their goal is that, even as the jihadi death toll mounts, no one has a negative view of The Religion of Peace.

This graph is ridiculous for five reasons:

• It begins after 9/11. Including nearly 3,000 jihad deaths on 9/11 would make it look significantly different.
  2. It does not include foiled plots, which also would make the jihadi line dwarf the non-jihadi line.
  3. It does not include the global component of the problem. There is a global jihad. Jihadis have murdered people all over the world. There is no global “right-wing extremist,” “white male Christian” threat.
  4. It ignores the fact that a minuscule part of the U.S. population — Muslims — is responsible for around half of the successful attacks.
  5. It lumps together shootings by clearly deranged people such as James Holmes with those of other deranged people who seem to have some ideology, such as Adam Lanza, to create the impression that there is some ideological movement and threat equivalent to that of Islamic jihad.

The mainstream media is no longer in any sense a news source. It is a propaganda arm for those who want you to think Islam is wonderful.

Several days ago I was contacted by NPR for a show hosted by Warren Olney and also joined by Peter Bergen and Frank Rich, on “the San Bernardino mass shooting and the impact on Americans who according to the latest Quinnipiac poll feel that homegrown terrorists are America’s biggest threat. Will this increase gun sales and anti Muslim sentiment?”

I was extremely surprised to be asked, since usually only one point of view is allowed on NPR. The producer called me to talk over the issue and I soon realized that she wanted me to be the foil on the show, the ranting right-winger countered by cool and knowledgeable leftists.

I explained to her why “Islamophobia” was a propaganda concept and why concern about the refugees was not racism and xenophobia.
She seemed surprised that I wasn’t a ranting, frothing-at-the-mouth bigot, and I in turn wasn’t at all surprised when I got the email saying they didn’t want me on the show after all, as they had “decided to go in a different direction.”

Reasonable arguments for resisting jihad and opposing a massive influx of Muslim refugees are not allowed on NPR, or anywhere else in the mainstream media.

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Toby says
December 5, 2015 at 7:48 pm
Whoever created this graph is an absolute fool. Even after the obvious attempts to distort the figures such as ignoring 9/11 and lumping all non-muslim attacks into a single bucket there is only 1 logical conclusion to draw from the data: 1% of the population has murdered the same number of people as the remaining 99%.
The fool puffs out his chest showing how tolerant and diverse he is, not realising that he has just demonstrated how dangerous Muslims are in the community.

If a single breed of dog that made up 1% of dogs in the US was responsible for half the attacks on people it would rightly be declared a dangerous breed.

If a brand of car that made up 1% of cars on US roads was responsible for half the car crash deaths the NYT would be screaming for it to be banned and for the car company executives to be charged.
When 1% of the population commits half the attacks it’s somehow proof that they are good people just like us. It would be funny if it wasn’t so serious.

• Radegunda says
  December 5, 2015 at 7:50 pm
  Excellent point.
  
• Free Speech says
  December 5, 2015 at 8:21 pm
  Thank you. You can bet this graph was made by the most competent statistician the Mobama adbomination could drag out of the janitor pool or government workers.
  
  • Free Speech says
    December 5, 2015 at 8:25 pm
    “of”
    

March 5, 2012
Andrew Breitbart for the Offense

By Robert Spencer
Among the many things that made Andrew Breitbart a great man was that he played offense. Most of the time warriors for freedom find themselves playing defense. Instead, we should follow Breitbart's example.

So many, many times I have been speaking at anti-jihad events and heard other speakers saying, "We are not racists, we are not bigots, we are not Islamophobes..." This is an understandable impulse: to counter the leftist/Islamic supremacist charges that smear and defame decent people who are trying to defend their freedoms and way of life. But at the same, it is playing on their field, allowing the foes of freedom to set the terms of the debate. Breitbart never did that.
We have allowed the jihadists and Islamic supremacists, and their leftist allies, to put us on the defensive. We're always apologizing, tacitly accepting their narrative and responding to them in the parameters they set up. Even worse, many even among the anti-jihadists eagerly throw their colleagues under the bus -- those colleagues whom the left and the Islamic supremacists have started to zero in on. They're the ones we should be standing up for the most resolutely, for they are drawing fire because they are effective.

Instead of bowing and scraping to the Islamic supremacists and feebly protesting that we're not really racists and hatemongers and all the other calumnies and canards they throw at us, we should be taking the fight to them, and standing up and saying, "You are fronting for the most oppressive ideology on the face of the earth. You are fronting for evil. You are carrying water and running interference for the denial of free speech, the denial of the freedom of conscience, the institutionalized oppression of women, the subjugation of non-Muslims, and worse. You're fronting for stonings, amputations, the murder of apostates, the treatment of women as possessions of men, the madness and senseless violence that we see in this furor over the Quran-burnings, and more. You shout us down on campuses and do everything you can to make sure we are not heard in the public square. And you call us fascists? You are the quintessence of fascism."
And we should note that even their charges against us are a mere diversionary tactic, designed to frighten people of goodwill away from our message and to divert attention away from the reality of jihad and Islamic supremacism. And that they demonstrate the bankruptcy of their position by heaping abuse on us instead of answering our arguments, which in fact they cannot answer.
Andrew Breitbart was never defensive. He called the left out for its hypocrisy, its thuggery, its totalitarian impulses, its self-contradictions and inconsistency, its naked hatred. That's why they hated and feared him so.
We should be hated and feared by the enemies of freedom. We should never bow to them, never apologize to them, never play the game they want us to play. Their hate is a badge of honor. Their fury and abuse are signs of our effectiveness. The people on the right whom the left love most are those who gore their oxen the least. These soft conservatives don't dare upset politically correct pieties. They wouldn't dream of challenging our government and law enforcement officials to stop peddling soothing falsehoods about the global jihad and Islamic supremacism, or of calling the Muslim community in the U.S. to account for the 80% of mosques that teach jihad and hatred of infidels, and for the Muslim Brotherhood ties of major Islamic groups in this country. Instead, they peddle the same false narrative, spending their time retailing crowd-pleasing fictions about the vast majority of moderate Muslims who are proudly American and accept constitutional freedoms, and whose vocal and vociferous and active support for anti-terror measures is no doubt right around the corner.
This is a false hope. Ten years after 9/11, and we are still waiting for this large cadre of moderate Muslims to begin fighting against their violent and supremacist coreligionists. And twenty years after 9/11, we will still be waiting.
It is time to give up false hopes and stop playing defense against the Islamic supremacists and the left. That is Andrew Breitbart's lesson, and his legacy. May we all emulate him, and may his memory be eternal.
Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and the author of the New York Times bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad.

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The Holy Quran Experiment

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The Holy Quran Experiment

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The Islam has been under huge scrutiny lately and is often criticised for being an aggressive religion... but what about Christianity?
In this video we disguised a Bible as a Quran and read some of it's most gruesome verses to the people. This is what they had to say.




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shiloh Today at 6:52 am
Pris wrote:
Brook wrote:Bump from the third post of this thread which is Jew (religion) Bashing. And NOT OFF TOPIC

Yes, actually. You are off topic.

This thread is for religion bashing.

Did you not catch Mr. Tickle in the OP?

STAY ON TOPIC.

The Topic of this thread , written by an author of an atheistic forum, describes how the so called 'Holy Books' of three religions apparently portray and propagate a self-similar agenda of (in the view of the atheistic worldview) of irrational beliefs and customs.
This video then portrays that the often quoted 'violent' passages in the Qur'an are rather like the ones in the 'holy book' of Judaism, called the Torah/Tanakh/Old Testament of the Bible (and excluding the New Testament).
A factual analysis and research of this proposition will then lead to a rational explanation and conclusion by especially discernative researchers.
This conclusion will show a number of parallels between the Qur'an and the Old Testament (OT).

1. 'Moses' of the OT seems to have become the 'Prophet of Israel' as a invading and conquering warrior, just as 'Muhammad' became the 'Prophet of Islam' about the time of the conquest of Arabia (not called muslim at that time) of the old Byzantine Christian political territory now centered on Turkey from say 550-750 AD.

2. The conquered territory by the 'New Arabia' contained previous remnant of both a heretic and orthodox Christianity, however following a common 'Prophet of Christianity' symbolised by the cross and the name Jesus/Yeshuah/Kristos.

3. The 'Prophet of Christianity' and its symbol of the cross formed a unifying principle in the conquered territories, which the Arabs could use to establish an order of political jurisdiction in affiliation with clerical authority and laws.

4. The Caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan (646-685-705) with his administrator (of today's Iraq) Hajjaj ibn Yusuf 'collected' parts of the earlier religious texts and including parts of the Torah, the New Testament (NT) from the byzantine Christians and parts of the earlier Moon God (Il, Ilah, al-ilah ) from the Arabian history and created the Qur'an with a composite honorific or title called 'Muhammad' (the 'praiseworthy' one) amalgamating Moses, the prophet of Israel with Jesus, the prophet of Christianity. To eliminate the earlier prophets of the OT and the NT, the symbol of Christianity in the cross had to become disassociated from the final and last prophet of Islam in Muhammad. But to keep the conquered Byzantine Christian remnant at bay, their prophet Jesus became a 'slave and forerunner' of Muhammad, but also remained a valid prophet but not now for Christianity but for Islam.

The topic and basis of this thread so represents an attempt by the atheistic and anti-religious worldview in somehow portraying the Judaic religion as being just as violent and destructive as that of Islam.
The violence in the Qur'an represents an accentuation of the violence in the Torah and the Pentateuch (the 5 books of Moses), because they are one and the same thing or they are derived from the same literary basis.
So 'dressing' the Qur'an as a bible serves no purpose, than to indicate and to 'prove' (from scriptural sources) to some, that the Qur'an represents the most thorough deception and agenda of its political-clerical purpose.

Now further analysis can show to the historically- and scientifically aware research base, that the Judahic prophet 'Moses' is also an honorific from the Hyksos rule of Egypt in the 15th century BC and being indicated in such pharaonic and not Jewish names such as Ahmose, Thutmosis and Rameses.
If so, then the Arabic prophet Muhammad, itself an invention, has used another invention to justify its own existence, with only the Christian prophet Jesus being a 'real noninvented' prophet in the actual historical libraries and lexicons.

The superpositioning of the Qur'an with the Bible so disallows any comparison of the Qur'an with the Old Testament, as both are constructed on false unhistorical premises.
The only validity of juxtaposition would be the blending of the Prophet of Islam with the Prophet of Christianity, the former using the latter to establish a form of religious continuity paralleled by the secular history of the timeframes of global evolvements. Nevertheless 'Muhammad' is a phantom prophet and in the original fundamental and nonecclesiastical form of Christianity the prophet of Islam, called Muhammed has been used by the creators of Islam and the Qur'an by the aforementioned Caliph and its clerical hierarchy to preempt a fundamental premise of true Christianity, namely the 'Coming of the Holy Ghost'!
Unbeknown to the islamists and the muslim apologizers, embedded within a worldwide deception, which can be said to encompass a spacetime 'bubble' of 4 million kilometers across and centered on the center of the Earth; the 'true Holy Ghost' and 'Divine Promise' and hence the truth of Muhammed is also present in this timespace.

And so it is a war of the minds and ideologies, surpassing the physical manifestations of global politics and the military-social-economic complexes!

The attached pdf further details the core nexus points addressed in the above.
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Re: The Holy Quran Experiment

shiloh Today at 7:07 am
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Carol I'm not walking away from the racial slurs that are now allowed at that Mists?

It's there in black and white. I take it personally because as you very well know....

While I have nothing to do with the religion...I am legally and my son is legally considered a Jew.

So in essence they are personally attacking me. Personal attacks are okay?

I take personal offense as I'm certain others do here.

So in essence is okay for me to hear that I and my son are a product of and I quote:

if you want dirt ,sleaze,incest, betrayal ,fratricide

Really? This is okay?

Steven Greer's position on 'evil invading and hostile ETs' is clear; as is his persistence of stating that most ufo phenomena are manmade, as are mutilations and abductions. So a position of endorsing Greer, yet continuing to also support the contrary agenda seems to be a form of mental confusion or hypocrisy.
As you know, the time of the fence-sitting has passed since 2011 and the being 'off topic' and the being 'on topic' has become rather more inclusive of a general expose of what is true, might be true and what is obviously false.

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Carol Today at 7:45 am

I enjoyed reading your posts Shiloh. Mahalo for that info. One can choose to "feed" the enemy with anger and fear - or not. The enemy are those negative entities who feed off humanities spiritual energy via instigating humanity's anger and fear. I choose not to go there. Toxic energy isn't healthy at any level.



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Brook Yesterday at 6:08 pm

Tony,

I read the pdf yesterday and was very impressed by your impression of the stated matter at hand. Well done.

But then of course being sent all the videos I watched the Stephen Greer almost four hours long and while the first half was something I already knew... the second half was quite interesting.

So my day was pretty full while also researching the comedy of clowns. Indeed I'm stuck in the middle with you!


Clowns to the left... Jokers to the right...and here I am...stuck in the middle with you.

So hard to keep this smile off my face....

Again well done on the pdf but I think the Jokers have yet to realize eh?

Doh!





Should prove to be an interesting day...plenty of coffee in reserve....I'm going to need it to keep from falling asleep.





In due time more commentary on pdf to come...

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