The 'real' truth about ebola virus, know this, this is NOT a hoax!!!

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  1. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    yup yup the typical "theories", some proclaime as "fact" are all over the alt scene - you actually have to dig through this stuff to catch some news and updates on whats going on - rather than the projections and postulations of the suspicious (hey I have suspicions too, it is creepy stuff that always seems to progress things towards a place long predicted by many)

    so which is it do you think Beyonder?

    a global threat meant to kill millions through a real biological agent?

    or a hoax?



    to address the patent issue - just about every bug or genetic sequence "of any significance" on the planet has a patent on it - which has promoted question of ethical concerns

    mostly on the issue of patenting life forms (think monsanto) in business and health ethics (should life itself be a business one can make money off of?)

    big (and even small) pharma gene sequencers want to own the rights for new finds to be researched further or even cured via treatment or vaccination - while most normal people don't watch this stuff, interested money makers try to give just about everything a market value to generate ...a market (even water -and for gods sake even carbon now)

    not everything is a conspiracy - but it can sure be spun that way (it sure seems creepy) - and it generates a lot of website hits - website hits are a market too so people will print just about anything to draw attention to their website or blog - sensationalism abounds...because most people want life to be a sensation - action packed non stop thrills with death or treasure just over the next hill - or just one click away

    I think was Wilcock who coined the term "fear porn" or maybe it was "doom porn" - cant remember but porn is addictive - I think I have flirted with the addiction to fear porn from time to time myself

    here is more info on the ethics of genetic patents (I wanted to know why there were patents too so I just asked google a while back)

    Disease Gene Patents: Overcoming Unethical Constraints on Clinical Laboratory Medicine - Center for Bioethics, University of Pennsylvania

    and a quote that is important "for context" to the patent issue (during the SARS period and things haven't changed much since then) from and NBC article HERE


    Researchers around the world are racing to patent the SARS virus and its genetic material, rekindling criticism of laws that allow people to claim intellectual property rights on living things.

    Several biotechnology and pharmaceutical companies, the U.S. government and researchers in Canada and Hong Kong have filed SARS-related patent applications in recent weeks, claiming ownership of everything from bits of genetic material to the virus itself.

    Nonprofit and government agencies said their applications are intended to keep the SARS work in the public domain, while private companies said patents will protect their research and development, and possibly lead to drug royalties.

    CDC claims ownership of virus
    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for instance, claims ownership of the virus and its entire genetic content. Rather than trying to profit if such a patent were awarded, the CDC says its application is to prevent others from monopolizing the field.

    “The whole purpose of the patent is to prevent folks from controlling the technology,” said CDC spokesman Llelwyn Grant. “This is being done to give the industry and other researchers reasonable access to the samples.”

    Regardless of motive, the race to patent the SARS virus has revived the debate about the ethics of a pivotal U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 1980 that cleared the way for the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to award patents for living things, most notably individual human genes. SOURCE
    and to be honest - I have been way overexposed to the "chicken little" perspectives permeating the internet

    if "they" wanted you dead - you would be dead already - 7 times over - it would just take one accidental push of the nuke button - buttons "they" have access to and not you BTW - anytime "they" wanted - so if you aren't dead by now them maybe there is some paranoia associated with some conspiracy - take it all with a grain of salt

    so what kind of plot does the forced vaccination meme accomplish again? in light of the long list of vaccinations we already DO have to get - what is so special about this one? ...maybe it is just money? I don't think "they" is of one mind - that "they" are a reflection of "we" at our worst ...and our best too - what ever we as a species decide to tolerate and what ever suffering we will allow before we decide to change things

    just lime you said:


    quote_icon. Originally Posted by BeYonder viewpost-right.
    there is absolutely NO doubt in my mind;
    that 99% of the people on earth are good people
    and; then there is this deadly 1% that are creating a ton of problems
    you can do a lot when you can legally operate in secret from your own babysitters - and there are some very bad kids out there:


    quote_icon. Originally Posted by BeYonder viewpost-right.
    Genetically modified Ebola vaccines are already being administered to healthy volunteers in the United States, UK, Gambia and Mali, as officials worldwide are fast-tracking the creation and approval of an Ebola vaccine.
    so naturally you can cause a fire and be the hero putting that fire out manipulating everyone in the process - and get to stay up past your bed time as a bonus (which is all you really wanted anyway (the fire was theater)

    personally speaking - as an evil megalomaniacal global dictator hell bent on the minimization of humanity to a mere 500 million

    I would have been done with that by the 60s and would be reaping all those rewards from it since then rather than all of this subterfuge and waste of time playing theatrical games over it

    what would I gain though - total domination?

    hehe we are already there man

    the NWO idea is just an upgrade to the normal cage you are used to - it is just global instead of regional

    and it is not coming - it is here - it has been here for a very long time - some just open their eyes occasionally and see the bars and think they have just been built - these people who "wake up" have always been around through out history too and will most likely be here until humanity grows up and becomes responsible for itself rather than letting the baby sitter do the job

    some baby sitters are not kind to children

    you have to pay attention and pick the right ones

    Last edited by Heretic; 13th October 2014 at 21:25.

    “Resistance is Futile - Adaptation is Evolution”
    - Heretic
     
  2. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    ODAH says:

    susan aka BeYonder another reason you should post artical links instead of full articles ..is because of the copywrite rules ..you really should not be posting full articels around on forums if you did not write them .

    people who write those articels many time put them on their sites to generate traffic and revenue .. have some respect for those who do the work of writing the articels

    in any case it has been how long sense we had a pandemic when someone can be from one side of the planet to the other in 12 hours and their is virtually no screening ..more people will die of the flue in the Usa .. than of ebola in africa at this point .

    if you are at you mothers house when the american doctors come .. ask them the questions

    i am not personally afraid of ebola or getting beheaded by isis ..i am more worried about what is in the food i eat so i eat a little processed food as possible..

    or at least food with ingrediant i can pronounce ...,.we are still at greater rist from what we eat than any virus
     
  3. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    ODAH - if i put only the link, you complain that i did NOT give you enough info
    if i put the link, along with the article, you will complain that i did NOT give the website the traffic
    unfortunately - experience online has shown that many important websites with good info
    disappear - then, what ??? i will need to database all the info from all the articles in my computer
    so, i can provide you with that info, when the time comes you can NOT find it
    i recall here, posting actual photographs on Shady Nook,
    which i deleted because some people went crazy about it,
    in fact, the photographs i had posted were very valuable,
    and, the website was actually deleted that they came from,
    some people would really want to access that info,
    but, unfortunately, i deleted the thread

    this is a very important issue - and, the more places that have complete info, for people to access,
    IMO (in my opinion) the better off everyone would be

    one of my first instincts was to search; the name of the ebola virus, prior to it being called that
    and, see what surfaces

    this world was NEVER planned to have a 'middle class',
    it was planned to have the very rich; and; then the slaves !!!

    most powerful groups only last approx. 300 years, and, then they are taken over by another group

    lets hope the 99% wakeup, and, get rid of the 1%

    ~ susan lynne schwenger
     
  4. CULCULCAN

    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    odah says:

    why do use the 99 /1 that was fed to the occupt wall street people .. the world has changed we are no longer led by government the multinational corperations are running most countries or the countries are working with them ..

    that is the new world order .. there is more a .01 percent .. or even .001 percent .. that are behind much of it ..

    the education system was created by industrialists in the early 20th century to creat worker from the masses..and the corperation created the middle classes to sell large amounts of average consumer goods ..

    here is the problem today..the 1 percent or what ever the small fraction is no longer need the masses as much of the tech will replace the toil that was the function of most humans ..

    step back from the conspiracy stuff and look at what is going on.
    i can say what i see ..but it doesn't really matter .. basicall world wide the people are losing faith in those who claim to lead them ..


    this ebola thing and the incometance the government is show .. the cdc and the who .. ..where to busy trying to fight heart disease and tabaccoo smokeing and ignore the ebola outbreak ..

    here is what you are not hearing and you know .. what i am saying..is that what will happen before medical treatments are proven to work ..there will be dozen of herbal medicine that are founf to be effective in allowing people to survive ..

    and once ebola gets beaten with common herbs .

    modern food give people weakened immune system and causes long term toxic build up in the body..

    what happens if people start getting it in their heads in masses that healthier food and common herbs and remedies can boost their immune systems.. it seems to be voodoo to most .

    the earth created ebola the earth has the answer

    i tend to complain about long articels ..in and linked because i would much rather discuss with people about what they believe than read 30 articels

    in any case i am not afraid of ebola..i am much more afraid of the governments reaction to ebola ..

    there is total incompetance in those who lead us .,,i mean to take a call that the nurse in dallas was infected.. just delayed obamas 300th round of golf in 6 years
     
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    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    JUST REC'D THIS EMAIL

    People vs. Ebola - thousands volunteering!
    From:Ricken Patel - Avaaz <avaaz@avaaz.org>
    To: 
    Date:
    Tue, Oct 14, 2014 5:19 pm
    I can barely believe it - thousands of us have volunteered to risk our lives at the front line of the Ebola crisis,
    including hundreds of doctors and health workers! And you have to see what the volunteers are writing
    -- it's beautiful.


    Dear Avaazers,



    Ebola could threaten us all, and the most urgent need to stop it is for volunteers. If just 120 doctors among us volunteer, it will *double* the number of doctors in Sierra Leone. Other skills - in health, sanitation, logistics - can help too. This is a call to serve humanity in the deepest possible way, to accept serious risk for our fellow human beings. Click to learn more, and show our gratitude to those making this powerful choice:

    Three weeks ago, hundreds of thousands of us went offline to fight climate change. This week, we're going offline to stop Ebola.

    The Ebola virus is spiraling out of control. Cases in West Africa are doubling every 2-3 weeks and the latest estimate says that up to 1.4 million people could be infected by mid-January. At that scale, this monster threatens the entire world.

    Previous Ebola outbreaks have been repeatedly contained at small numbers. But the scale of this current epidemic has swamped the region's weak health systems. Liberia has less than 1 doctor for every 100,000 people. Governments are providing funds, but there just aren't enough medical staff to stem the epidemic.

    That's where we come in. 39 million people are receiving this email. Our polling shows that 6% of us are health workers - doctors or nurses - that's nearly 2 million of us. If just 120 doctors among us volunteer, it will *double* the number of doctors in Sierra Leone.

    Other volunteers can help too -- lab technicians, logisticians, water and sanitation workers, and transport workers. Volunteering means more than time. It means risk. Health professionals have already died fighting Ebola. But if there's any group of people that would consider taking this risk for their fellow human beings, it's our community. I and others on the Avaaz team are ready to take that risk with you, traveling to the front lines of this crisis.

    Great things come from listening to the deepest voices within us. If you're a health professional, or have other skills that can help, I ask you to take a moment, listen to the part of you that you most trust, and follow it.

    Click below to volunteer, see messages from volunteers about why they've made this choice, and leave your own message of appreciation and encouragement for them:

    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/ebola_volunteers_thank_you_3/?bKXCoib&v=47459

    Raising your hand to volunteer is the first step. You’ll need to have proficiency in English or French. And you'll need to get, and provide, a lot of information to ensure you're well matched to an available position. You will likely need to discuss this decision with your loved ones, and you can withdraw from the process later if you choose to. For this effort, Avaaz is working with Partners In Health, Save the Children, and International Medical Corps, three of the leading organisations fighting this deadly disease. We are also consulting with the governments of Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea, and the World Health Organization.

    While there is substantial risk, there are also clear ways to contain that risk. Ebola is spread through bodily fluids, so with extreme care, the risk of contracting it can be minimized. So far, 94 health care workers have died of Ebola in Liberia, but almost all of them have been national health workers, who sadly are far less well equipped than international volunteers. With treatment, the chances of surviving the virus are better than 50%.

    Many of us, from police to activists to soldiers, have jobs that involve risking our lives for our country. It's the most powerful statement we can make about what's worth living for. Taking this risk to fight Ebola, makes a statement that our fellow human beings, wherever they are, are worth living for:

    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/ebola_volunteers_thank_you_3/?bKXCoib&v=47459

    If Ebola spirals further out of control, it could soon threaten us all. The fact that a weak health care system
    in a small country can let this monster grow to a size that threatens the world is a powerful statement
    of just how interdependent we are. But this interdependence is far more than just interests.

    We are connected, all of us, in a community of human beings. All the lies that have divided us
    - about nation and religion and sexuality
    - are being torn down, and we are realizing that we really are one people, one tribe.


    That a young mother and her daughter in Liberia fear the same things and love the same things
    as a young mother and her daughter in Brazil, or the Netherlands.

    And in this unfolding understanding, a new world is being born.

    Out of the darkest places come our brightest lights.

    Out of the depths of the Ebola nightmare, let's bring the light of a new world of one people,
    connected through love, and willing to fight, and sacrifice, for each other.

    With hope and determination,

    Ricken, John, Alice, Danny, and the whole Avaaz team.

    More information:

    Up to 1.4m people could be infected with Ebola by January, CDC warns (The Guardian)
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/23/ebola-cdc-millions-infected-quarantine-africa-epidemi...

    Known Cases and Outbreaks of Ebola Virus Disease, in Chronological Order (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
    http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/history/chronology.html

    Ebola 'devouring everything in its path' (Al Jazeera)
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/09/ebola-devouring-everything-path-201499161646914388.html

    Ebola death rates 70% - WHO study (BBC)
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29327741

    Unprecedented number of medical staff infected with Ebola (WHO)
    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/25-august-2014/en/


    Support the Avaaz Community!
    We're entirely funded by donations and receive no money from governments or corporations. Our dedicated team ensures even the smallest contributions go a long way.



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    and values of the world's people shape global decision-making.
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    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    huge article I just posted that I need your help getting out.

    They CURED Ebola in 2010! This has been censored by all the media! Please share this on all social media.
    I've also posted it on Project Nsearch. Get the word out and promote our website! God bless

    Ebola Cured in 2010! Censored by all media! RED ALERT! Scientists had a 100% cure rate on Monkees with 30,000 times the fatal dose of Ebola! I need 500 SHARES on this! Get the word out! SHARE SHARE SHARE! http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...eam-news-censored-red-alert-3005888.html{/td}
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    CULCULCAN The Final Synthesis - isbn 978-0-9939480-0-8 Staff Member

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    Watertown NY and the Drum area get ready for Fema camp arrivals.
    Or a nice elixir of damnation to come via a vaccine.
    Roadblocks here and there and forced eventually gun confiscation .
    I been warning this was coming,
    Though I didn't have all the pieces of the puzzle
    the signs should have been there with the clear dots and connections
    ~ Robet DeBovis



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    Calls go out for for "Special Camps" to be Opened in every State to Battle Ebola
    By: Steve Watson @ infowars.com


    By: Steve Watson @ infowars.com
    Fox News, always ahead of the curve on panicking the general public into giving up all their rights, aired programming Monday during which an analyst openly called for quarantine camps to be set up all over the country to house those with Ebola like symptoms.

    Fox contributor and former actress Stacey Dash called for the federal government to establish emergency centers to hold Americans in isolation, despite the fact that there have only been two confirmed cases of the ebola virus in the US.
    “I think they should set up special centers for just Ebola in each state,” Dash said. “They shouldn’t be letting people go into regular hospitals, where it could be spread.”


    from: youtube.com/watch?v=gOXZMwdQSWI


    http://prepperchimp.com/2014/10/14/...-to-be-opened-in-every-state-to-battle-ebola/
     
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    EBOLA CAMPS? FOX ANALYST CALLS FOR QUARANTINE CAMPS IN EVERY CITY

    “They shouldn’t be letting people go into regular hospitals"

    by STEVE WATSON | INFOWARS.COM | OCTOBER 14, 2014

    Fox News, always ahead of the curve on panicking the general public into giving up all their rights, aired programming Monday during which an analyst openly called for quarantine camps to be set up all over the country to house those with Ebola like symptoms.
    Fox contributor and former actress Stacey Dash called for the federal government to establish emergency centers to hold Americans in isolation, despite the fact that there have only been two confirmed cases of the ebola virus in the US.

    “I think they should set up special centers for just Ebola in each state,” Dash said. “They shouldn’t be letting people go into regular hospitals, where it could be spread.”

    “I just think that for this specific disease, we should have a special facility with specially trained people,” Dash added. “In each city. That way it’s not spread, and when the person walks in, they know what they’re looking for, they know if they find it, they know how to contain it. And they know how not to infect themselves.”
    The controversial proposal comes in the wake of a string of calamitous errors in the handling of the Eric Duncan case, and disturbing revelations that US hospitals are woefully unprepared to deal with potential Ebola cases.
    In Duncan’s case, up to 70 staffers at Texas Presbyterian Hospital were involved in caring for him, with one nurse now becoming the first person to be infected within the US.
    In the same Fox News program, Comedian Paul Mecurio, who was also on the panel for some reason, supported Dash’s call for Ebola camps, stating “There’s a really bad health protocol throughout the United States right now, it’s called going to the hospital.”
    The panel then clamoured for big government to step in and save America from Ebola, suggesting creating an Ebola czar and throwing former New York City Mayor Rudy Guliani’s name into the ring.
    It is not that far fetched to imagine Ebola camps being set up. Indeed, it is only a step away from the current calls by U.S. and local health officials to set up dedicated hospitals in each state for Ebola patients.
    “We’d like to have at least one hospital in every state that does feel they could manage a patient from start to finish,” said Abbigail Tumpey, the CDC official in charge of the education outreach. So far, the new system is only in the discussion stage, and one issue is that there are currently only four U.S. hospitals with top-level bio-containment units.”
    As Infowars has noted, the CDC has instructed funeral homes to bury Ebola victims in hermetically sealed caskets, a potentially disturbing revelation given reports that the federal agency had previously purchased thousands of air tight coffin liners which were being stored in Madison, Georgia.
    In addition, former Border Patrol Agent Zach Taylor has divulged that the CDC is working with Border Patrol authorities and the Department of Homeland Security to disappear potential Ebola victims attempting to cross the border into the United States, putting them into quarantine in an unknown location.
    In August, former FDA official Scott Gottlieb, M.D. wrote in Forbes that the CDC will invoke powers to “hold a healthy person against his will” in the event of an Ebola outbreak, warning that the feds may assume “too much jurisdiction to detain people involuntarily,” leading to “spooky scenarios where people could be detained for long periods, merely on a suspicion they might have been exposed to some pathogen. And forced to submit to certain medical interventions to gain their freedom.”
    An executive order signed by President Obama at the end of July also allows for the “apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of suspected communicable diseases.”
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    Steve Watson is a London based writer and editor for Alex Jones’ Infowars.com, and Prisonplanet.com. He has a Masters Degree in International Relations
    from the School of Politics at The University of Nottingham,
    and a Bachelor Of Arts Degree in Literature and Creative Writing
    from Nottingham Trent University.



    http://www.infowars.com/ebola-camps-fox-analyst-calls-for-quarantine-camps-in-every-city/
     
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    Mudpie17 hours ago
    says:
    "I worked for the Dept. of Health for a large southern state.
    You should see the forced quarantine plans that they have drawn for us.
    They even had their lawyers working overtime to ensure that they had the legal right
    (under a liberal legal interpretation) to coerce us all into obeying.
    So let's see - our govt. will not quarantine off flights from West African,
    but when it comes to forcing American citizens into these kinds of camps,
    they have no problem.
    Sick."

    http://www.infowars.com/ebola-camps-fox-analyst-calls-for-quarantine-camps-in-every-city/
     

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